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Posted by: gulf908 Jun 2 2020, 11:57 PM

Hi

a friend of mine here in Sydney is looking at this '73 for sale at the Beverley Hills CC.

https://www.beverlyhillscarclub.com/1973-porsche-914-2.0-c-10993.htm

does anyone know anything about it or know of it ?
secondly,is there a professional PPI that can be done on my friend's behalf by someone locally ?

TIA
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Posted by: oldschool Jun 3 2020, 12:45 AM

QUOTE(gulf908 @ Jun 2 2020, 10:57 PM) *

Hi

a friend of mine here in Sydney is looking at this '73 for sale at the Beverley Hills CC.

https://www.beverlyhillscarclub.com/1973-porsche-914-2.0-c-10993.htm

does anyone know anything about it or know of it ?
secondly,is there a professional PPI that can be done on my friend's behalf by someone locally ?

TIA
Dennis smile.gif


yup....Oscar

Posted by: gulf908 Jun 3 2020, 01:37 AM

thx OS

pls elaborate - we are a long way away

cheers
Dennis

Posted by: 911GT2 Jun 3 2020, 01:51 AM

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=343406

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Posted by: RobWood Jun 3 2020, 03:57 AM

Check these guys out, www.autoappraisal.com

I commissioned three reports, on three 914s over several months, and with different inspectors in different states. Bought the third one and got it back from NY to NZ.

All of the reports were written well, the inspectors were happy to answer questions after the report was issued. All three reports were good quality, and the car, when it turned up, was exactly as reported/photographed.

Good luck,

Rob

Posted by: Landsharkoz Jun 3 2020, 02:38 PM

QUOTE(RobWood @ Jun 3 2020, 03:57 AM) *

Check these guys out, www.autoappraisal.com
I commissioned three reports, on three 914s over several months, and with different inspectors in different states. Bought the third one and got it back from NY to NZ.
Good luck, Rob


Rob, thanks for your recommendation. Can you tell me how much they charge?

Cheers,

Leonard.

Posted by: porschetub Jun 3 2020, 08:12 PM

QUOTE(RobWood @ Jun 3 2020, 09:57 PM) *

Check these guys out, www.autoappraisal.com

I commissioned three reports, on three 914s over several months, and with different inspectors in different states. Bought the third one and got it back from NY to NZ.

All of the reports were written well, the inspectors were happy to answer questions after the report was issued. All three reports were good quality, and the car, when it turned up, was exactly as reported/photographed.

Good luck,

Rob


Hi Rob and welcome.png ,we like pics on here...go for it ,would be nice to see your car .

Posted by: porschetub Jun 3 2020, 08:29 PM

Looks ok but the fresh underseal is an alarm bell to me.
Sometime read if you visit them direct and inspect the car they are good to deal with,Oscar proved that recently with his kind offer for an oversea's member on here.

Posted by: bkrantz Jun 3 2020, 09:30 PM

You might already know this, but BHCC has a mixed reputation. Search for some other threads, including other overseas buyers having trouble.

The car looks OK in the photos provided, but they do not show the most critical areas like the hell hole and the outer longs under the rocker covers.

Besides that, a few things look off. If it is an original 2 liter, then it should have chrome bumpers, fog lights, and vinyl on the targa sail panels. These could be modifications, or it could be an original 1.7 liter with a motor swap.

Posted by: Landsharkoz Jun 3 2020, 10:13 PM

QUOTE(porschetub @ Jun 3 2020, 08:29 PM) *

Looks ok but the fresh underseal is an alarm bell to me.
Sometime read if you visit them direct and inspect the car they are good to deal with,Oscar proved that recently with his kind offer for an oversea's member on here.


Thanks. I sent Oscar an email. I hope I am lucky enough to hear back from him. Certainly the only way I would purchase this is to have a PPI done first.

Cheers, Leonard

Posted by: KELTY360 Jun 3 2020, 10:21 PM

QUOTE(bkrantz @ Jun 3 2020, 07:30 PM) *

Besides that, a few things look off. If it is an original 2 liter, then it should have chrome bumpers, fog lights, and vinyl on the targa sail panels. These could be modifications, or it could be an original 1.7 liter with a motor swap.


Not necessarily true. @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=20845 has an original 2.0L with black bumpers and no vinyl on the sails. The factory wasn't as rigid as later 'history' dictates.

Posted by: RobWood Jun 4 2020, 02:30 AM

QUOTE(Landsharkoz @ Jun 3 2020, 02:38 PM) *

QUOTE(RobWood @ Jun 3 2020, 03:57 AM) *

Check these guys out, www.autoappraisal.com
I commissioned three reports, on three 914s over several months, and with different inspectors in different states. Bought the third one and got it back from NY to NZ.
Good luck, Rob


Rob, thanks for your recommendation. Can you tell me how much they charge?

Cheers,

Leonard.


About $400usd from memory

Posted by: RobWood Jun 4 2020, 02:31 AM

QUOTE(porschetub @ Jun 3 2020, 08:29 PM) *

Looks ok but the fresh underseal is an alarm bell to me.
Sometime read if you visit them direct and inspect the car they are good to deal with,Oscar proved that recently with his kind offer for an oversea's member on here.

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Posted by: bbrock Jun 4 2020, 07:49 AM

QUOTE(KELTY360 @ Jun 3 2020, 10:21 PM) *

QUOTE(bkrantz @ Jun 3 2020, 07:30 PM) *

Besides that, a few things look off. If it is an original 2 liter, then it should have chrome bumpers, fog lights, and vinyl on the targa sail panels. These could be modifications, or it could be an original 1.7 liter with a motor swap.


Not necessarily true. @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=20845 has an original 2.0L with black bumpers and no vinyl on the sails. The factory wasn't as rigid as later 'history' dictates.


That's true. There are some threads and other info (e.g. Jeff Bowlsby's site) on this but the story is that the Appearance Group package was originally included in the base price of the 73 2.0L (marketed briefly in the U.S. as the famous 914S) so nearly all, if not all 73 twos came with the package. Appearance group became an extra cost option sometime around mid-model year. There was also a "Sport" or "Performance" package which is what my car is. That package included the performance goodies of Fuchs, sway bars, and center console but black bumper, no fog lights, and not vinyl sails. The rear trim on the targa was also black.

Posted by: ClayPerrine Jun 4 2020, 07:51 AM

Betty's 914 had the Fuchs wheels and sail panel vinyl from the factory, but it didn't have sway bars. It also came with black bumpers and no fog lights.

Like any other car, you could fill out the dealer option selection and get what you wanted.


Posted by: mrholland2 Jun 4 2020, 10:35 AM

Have we all noticed that the BHCC floor with a crack is now much nicer? It seemed to happen just after a World member mentioned it on here. (Probably a coincidence, but funny and I had to mention) idea.gif

Posted by: bkrantz Jun 4 2020, 08:28 PM

QUOTE(bbrock @ Jun 4 2020, 07:49 AM) *

QUOTE(KELTY360 @ Jun 3 2020, 10:21 PM) *

QUOTE(bkrantz @ Jun 3 2020, 07:30 PM) *

Besides that, a few things look off. If it is an original 2 liter, then it should have chrome bumpers, fog lights, and vinyl on the targa sail panels. These could be modifications, or it could be an original 1.7 liter with a motor swap.


Not necessarily true. @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=20845 has an original 2.0L with black bumpers and no vinyl on the sails. The factory wasn't as rigid as later 'history' dictates.


That's true. There are some threads and other info (e.g. Jeff Bowlsby's site) on this but the story is that the Appearance Group package was originally included in the base price of the 73 2.0L (marketed briefly in the U.S. as the famous 914S) so nearly all, if not all 73 twos came with the package. Appearance group became an extra cost option sometime around mid-model year. There was also a "Sport" or "Performance" package which is what my car is. That package included the performance goodies of Fuchs, sway bars, and center console but black bumper, no fog lights, and not vinyl sails. The rear trim on the targa was also black.


Good to know. I thought the variations on 2.0 equipment did not start until MY 74.

Posted by: TheCabinetmaker Jun 5 2020, 06:34 AM

QUOTE(bkrantz @ Jun 4 2020, 08:28 PM) *

QUOTE(bbrock @ Jun 4 2020, 07:49 AM) *

QUOTE(KELTY360 @ Jun 3 2020, 10:21 PM) *

QUOTE(bkrantz @ Jun 3 2020, 07:30 PM) *

Besides that, a few things look off. If it is an original 2 liter, then it should have chrome bumpers, fog lights, and vinyl on the targa sail panels. These could be modifications, or it could be an original 1.7 liter with a motor swap.


Not necessarily true. @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=20845 has an original 2.0L with black bumpers and no vinyl on the sails. The factory wasn't as rigid as later 'history' dictates.


That's true. There are some threads and other info (e.g. Jeff Bowlsby's site) on this but the story is that the Appearance Group package was originally included in the base price of the 73 2.0L (marketed briefly in the U.S. as the famous 914S) so nearly all, if not all 73 twos came with the package. Appearance group became an extra cost option sometime around mid-model year. There was also a "Sport" or "Performance" package which is what my car is. That package included the performance goodies of Fuchs, sway bars, and center console but black bumper, no fog lights, and not vinyl sails. The rear trim on the targa was also black.


Good to know. I thought the variations on 2.0 equipment did not start until MY 74.

I bought a new 1.7 in 73. It had chrome bumpers, sail vinyl, and pedrinis. That's the way it came.

Posted by: Tdskip Jun 5 2020, 07:07 AM

QUOTE(bkrantz @ Jun 3 2020, 10:30 PM) *

You might already know this, but BHCC has a mixed reputation. Search for some other threads, including other overseas buyers having trouble.


To be fair - it was a multi-state title issue that got caught up in the Covid shut down.

Posted by: Tdskip Jun 5 2020, 07:09 AM

QUOTE(porschetub @ Jun 3 2020, 09:29 PM) *


Sometime read if you visit them direct and inspect the car they are good to deal with,Oscar proved that recently with his kind offer for an oversea's member on here.


They will happily meet you, walk you to the car, and then walk away allowing you to spend hours inspecting it.

You need eyes on what you buy from them, or any dealer really, but if you fail to do that it is on you.

Posted by: 911GT2 Jun 5 2020, 07:16 AM

QUOTE(Tdskip @ Jun 5 2020, 05:07 AM) *

QUOTE(bkrantz @ Jun 3 2020, 10:30 PM) *

You might already know this, but BHCC has a mixed reputation. Search for some other threads, including other overseas buyers having trouble.


To be fair - it was a multi-state title issue that got caught up in the Covid shut down.

It was, but there wasn't much empathy from BHCC either. Especially during the Covid situation. Remember I offered them roughly 8% of the purchase price just to cancel the deal and let me walk away. They had plenty of opportunity to still make things right. I don't say it was all on them, just saying they didn't move an inch to make it right.

Posted by: Landsharkoz Jun 5 2020, 09:43 PM

At this point I have been in initial contact with Oscar. He thankfully appears willing to take a look at this for me and hopefully give it a clean bill of health!

Thanks for all your comments.

Cheers, Leonard

Posted by: ValcoOscar Jun 11 2020, 10:32 PM

QUOTE(Landsharkoz @ Jun 5 2020, 08:43 PM) *

At this point I have been in initial contact with Oscar. He thankfully appears willing to take a look at this for me and hopefully give it a clean bill of health!

Thanks for all your comments.

Cheers, Leonard

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I made time to go to BHMC this afternoon. Took lots of photos and sent Leonard my opinion.

Please confirm you received my emails and photos.

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=24346

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Oscar

Posted by: Landsharkoz Jun 12 2020, 04:27 PM

QUOTE(ValcoOscar @ Jun 11 2020, 10:32 PM) *

QUOTE(Landsharkoz @ Jun 5 2020, 08:43 PM) *

At this point I have been in initial contact with Oscar. He thankfully appears willing to take a look at this for me and hopefully give it a clean bill of health!
Thanks for all your comments. Cheers, Leonard

__________________________________
I made time to go to BHMC this afternoon. Took lots of photos and sent Leonard my opinion.

Oscar


Hi all. Humble and large thanks to @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=16669 . She's MINE! smile.gif

I have placed a deposit on this '73 914 and am quite excited. There's going to be a number of hoops to jump through yet before getting it 'downunder'.

Haven't been this excited in a number of years! Thanks also to forum member @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=16795 for his valued assistance also.

Cheers, Leonard

Posted by: Tdskip Jun 12 2020, 04:29 PM

Congratulations!

(enjoy your Shark btw, I have an '84 with '88 running gear, bit of a beast)

Posted by: ValcoOscar Jun 12 2020, 04:31 PM

This deserves a happy dance!!!!




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Posted by: Landsharkoz Jun 12 2020, 04:45 PM

QUOTE(Tdskip @ Jun 12 2020, 04:29 PM) *

Congratulations!

(enjoy your Shark btw, I have an '84 with '88 running gear, but of a beast)


Nice!

I have had a long and mostly happy time with my 928s. With a tinge of sadness for me, the time has come to move on from these magnificent Teutonic beasts. I'll still be part of that community (since 1999) but my heart now beats for this 914-(6?) smile.gif

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Cheers, Leonard

Posted by: Landsharkoz Jun 12 2020, 04:46 PM

QUOTE(ValcoOscar @ Jun 12 2020, 04:31 PM) *

This deserves a happy dance!!!!


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Posted by: Tdskip Jun 12 2020, 05:22 PM

You know you can't get 928s out of your system once you have one, right?

That said - 914/6 will be highly satisfying if built right.

Keep us posted!

Posted by: Landsharkoz Jun 12 2020, 05:25 PM

QUOTE(Tdskip @ Jun 12 2020, 05:22 PM) *

You know you can't get 928s out of your system once you have one, right?
That said - 914/6 will be highly satisfying if built right.
Keep us posted!


Thanks, @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=21666 I will for sure. smile.gif

Leonard

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