EDIT on 6/6/2021
I made 6 SpeedHut gauge panels today. See my post on page 4 of this thread for a "fresh off the plasma table" pic.
If you're still interested, I should have these ready to go in a week or so.
- these are .063 3003 aluminum
- they will not be painted
- they do not have the raised stamping for the dimmer
- they are set up for a 4.5" center gauge, 4" outer gauges
- 3 have holes for the dimmer, 3 don't
$35 plus shipping from 94952.
Yes, I'd said $20 earlier but that was a year ago and I was being too generous with my time and consumables. Just be thankful I'm not making them out of wood.
Let me know if you're interested. I'll probably make more once I get more material.
Thanks again for your patience.
Chris
EDIT on 6/24/20:
To the interested parties who've already contacted me or posted here to date:
The plasma table is back in action so now I'm tuning the design. See my post from today (6/24) for the latest updates re: what's new and what I still have to do.
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As to price, it'll be the same thing I try and pull off whenever I do stuff for friends:
Cost of materials and consumables and you buy me a coffee if we ever meet.
I'm thinking $20 plus shipping.
Thanks for your patience.
Chris
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For those using or contemplating SpeedHut gauges, you'll find they are just a bit undersized compared to the stock gauges and require some sort of wrapping or spacer in order to fit well in the stock panel.
I opted to give a go to working up a replacement panel and as I was making it, I thought, while I'm cutting one, I could cut a few more, if there was interest.
This is V1 and it needs a couple minor tweaks, but you get the idea.
Note that it has a 90 degree fold along the bottom edge that I'll stretch so the panel curves a bit, like the factory part.
This one is .060 aluminum but I could do steel, too.
Would anyone be interested in one?
PM me, thanks,
Chris
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Looks like a brand new / modern cluster. Neat.
I'd be interested, how much do you plan on selling them for?
I'd be interested, price dependent.
RobF
I might need one.aswell
I am interested! Count me in please.
Interested for sure! Been thinking about doing the same thing.
Chris, I'm the "there's always one in the crowd" guy. I'd like one that uses just the Speed Hut Speedo as I use the other two OEM gages. I made my last one out of Aluminum but didn't have the capability to flange the opening so you can imagine what it looks like behind the panel.
To the interested parties who've already contacted me or posted here to date:
Apologies - this effort is on hold while I work through an issue I'm having with my plasma table. Hopefully, I can get it resolved quickly.
As to price, it'll be the same thing I try and pull off whenever I do stuff for friends:
Cost of materials and consumables and you buy me a coffee if we ever meet.
I'm thinking $20 plus shipping.
Thanks for your patience.
Chris
Thanks for the update Chris. No rush at all, but I would love to have one.
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=22920 - Thanks Broheen, you're too kind.
The good news is that ArcLight Dynamics (my table mfg) has awesome support and when I told them what I was struggling with, they said "OK, we'll e-mail you a quick 'how-to' that enables you to check/reset a value that should correct your issue..."
I ran the test and, sure enough, I needed to update the value that is key to correcting my issue.
I didn't have time to verify it with a test cut but I'm pretty confident I'll be back in business tomorrow!
I'll update this thread as I make progress on the panel design and fab.
I have interest in two ways.
First, I have the tach for my race car. But I use data acq and a separate DASH-4 so I'd like one with only the center tach hole cut.
Second, I'm actually Ok with the stock speedo and combo gauge, but would like to add a Speedhut tach...how about one with the stock holes cut left and right but the smaller hole in the center for the Speedhut tach?
I'm curious on others' experience on the total cost, including sensors, for replacing the whole thing as in the first post?
Chris, we appreciate your work and your desire to help the group out. I would gladly pay you more than asking because it saves me a lot of work!
I still want mine and again thanks!
Please include me for either aluminum or steel (plan to wrinkle powder coat anyway). Thanks very much I appreciate your generous offer.
I've updated the outer panel shape and it now fits and looks better. I also moved the tach hole down a bit - I think it looks better with less space at the bottom.
I also remembered that the SpeedHut gauges offer a gauge lighting dimmer so I opted to add the dimmer knob to the front of the panel.
Others may want to mount it elsewhere so I can offer the panel with or without this hole.
Next, I'm going to stamp a small raised circular area around that knob, just to break up all the flatness of the panel. We'll see how I like that...
Anyway, here's a front and back shot as things stand now.
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A bit of stretching to get things to sit nicely against the dash frame.
One item I still have to work up is a stamp/punch to set the recesses in the mounting holes so those stock tapered back screws sit nicely.
Though I could opt to use a nicer looking fastener and change out the stock screw plates for something else...
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I have to say those gauges look so darn nice that if I had another 914 that would absolutely be the gauge panel and gauges for that car.
Please include me for either aluminum or steel
Something I want to be sure and point out is that while the tach is essentially centered in the same place as the stock tach, I moved the outer gauges down and in a bit. This make it easier to see more of the gauges, especially for those of us with aftermarket steering wheels that have thicker rims and smaller diameters.
Here's a comparison with the stock panel set on top of mine.
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Why, oh why do I seem unable to keep things simple?
I figured I'd go for a few more style points and rather than raise a circle around the dimmer knob, I went with this.
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I ended up with a small flaw in one of the dies so there's a hiccup at the 1:00-ish position of the stamped area. It's more visible in the next pic.
I may be able to address it with a bit of careful filing.
But I think I'll end up redoing the die set and making a whole new panel because:
Tygaboy...
The panel is totally serviceable so I'm happy to offer it to someone willing to live with this horror!
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Then I gave it a squirt of SEM trim black and assembled everything.
I will say, I think it looks pretty good, that one flaw aside. That raised area is the sort of thing that most folks won't even notice and is the very reason I think it's such a neat little detail.
Note: Stamping the raised area for the dimmer is a real fiddly process. So unless the solution I use to make my personal panel turns out to be reliable and repeatable, it likely won't be practical for me to offer this feature.
Fingers crossed I can pull it off.
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Please add me to the list.
That gauge set and bezel look so good I want to get one and cut it into the top of my desk....and it ain't a cheap desk.
I’m in. I have 2 speedhut 4 inch gauge and the center tach is 4.5 speedhut. If that’s your dimensions I definately want one. Brett
So I went all in and made a stamping die set so I can reliably create the dimmer knob element. What can I say? I love you guys and want to provide a nice piece so what the heck...
Here's the die set and an earlier version panel I "repaired" with it. It's not perfect but you get the idea.
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Each of these three panels have some sort of flaw so I'm willing to part with them for cost of shipping.
You can have one of these OR wait a bit and for $20 plus shipping, you can have a "good" one.
PM me and it'll be first come, first served for this lot.
#1, the black one with no gauges in it: the dimmer knob stamp isn't even around it's perimeter.
#2, the grey one with no gauges: you can see it's got a small crease above the dimmer area and the stamping itself isn't great. What do you expect for free?
#3, the black one with gauges (no, they aren't included) has a hiccup at the 1:30-ish position of the dimmer knob area, called out by the red arrow.
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Just curious. What stumbling blocks, if any, were incurred during the development phase Chris? e.g warpage, distortion, etc. What is used for pressing the dies together? Vise, hammer, press? Something tells me a few hours went into making the dies. Nice job.
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=19241
Sweet Chris
D'MAN OF THE DAY
Oscar
Tygaboy,
I want one in black.
I already have the 2 4 inch speedhut and 1
41/2. Let me know where to send the money.
Brett
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=9964 - Kent , here's an overview of the process, complete with some exciting video!
First, here's the assembly order, top to bottom:
- male die
- panel
- female die
Then, the assembly aligned, using the dimmer hole and the one gauge hole.
This isn't a perfect "indexing" set up so there is some opportunity for minor alignment error.
But isn't that part of the beauty of "handmade"?
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For anyone who may be interested, let me back up and show you the plasma table in action, wrapping up the final cuts on the latest panel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u-BEwS66oo
I use a couple Vice Grips to hold things in place. Into the press it goes, then I set the aluminum block on top of the area that will be pressed.
This all but guarantees there's no distortion anywhere on the panel as it mashes everything back to flat.
Oh, and don't forget to be sure the blocks are tall enough to clear any flanges AND that you don't get one of the Vice Grips in a spot where they'll be part of the stamping area.
Ask me how I learned those lessons...
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Here's the pressing process and the result. It works like a charm!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmlvB9JlPZw
A trip to the stretcher to get the needed curve so it sits nicely against the dash frame, a lick of paint and:
I tried to get the pic to really show the dimmer stamp area.
I think I can live with this version.
Hope you enjoyed the details about how I make these panels.
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Loved the videos! Thx Chris, you've satisfied my curiosity for the moment.
Hi Chris, if it's not too late I'll take one too.
I would really like one too !?
PM works good to discuss -
What an awesome thread!
I would like one in black.
If I'm not too late,,,,,
I'll buy one in aluminum from ya. (painted black is fine)
This will work great for my speedhuts, when I do my subie conversion on my 72.
I have the same Sppedhut tach ( with a custom dial ) in my 911 hot rod- shift light is very cool!
I have just bought a 914 as my birthday present and would be very interested in this setup for it.
More info- prices etc. Please!
C
Sorry about last duplicate posts- can’t work out how to delete
Hey Chris great work! There's alot of thinking that went into that seemingly simple looking piece. Couple of questions ( well 3 1/2 actually): 1) Did you do the stretching and shrinking before or after opening the hole for the gauges? 2) what procedure did you use to flange the inside of the gauges? Did you use a huge dimple die? 3) did you use the tipping die to get the flange along the perimeter of the guage cluster? (3-1/2) If so, how did you deal with the distortion? I asking since I was planning on doing my gauge cluster out of aluminum but for the Getty dash? Thanks in advance.
NOTE TO ALL PARTIES interested in one of these panels:
Apologies, guys. I let this effort get put on a back burner. My 914 build, helping on a buddy's race car, and now my own RacerBenz build, have sucked me in pretty deep. Not trying to make excuses, just telling you what's up.
It seems there's a lot of interest so give me a bit and I'll do a run of these. I'll fill the requests in order your replies were posted. I can't promise everyone will get one, let's see how my time plays out. Thanks in advance for understanding.
Chris
What are you kids doing for turn signal and high beam indicators with these tachs? Just dropping an LED somewhere in the panel? Just going without?
Hey Greg,
The Speedhut speedo has turn signals and high beam indicators in it.
Quick follow up.
I bought some LEDs off eBay and made my own warnings after replacing the tach with a Speedhut.
- Red - oil pressure (I have no idea why Porsche decided to use GREEN for oil pressure)
- Yellow - GEN failure
- Blue - Brights
- Green - turn signals
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01AHQJ06G
Works great.
I may do a Speedhut speedometer, but not really wanting to spend that coin right now...
I'll take 2 if you get time to make them. Aluminum is my preference but I'd be happy with steel if that's what you have available.
While I had the plasma table fired up to make a new gauge panel for the Holley digital dash, I figured I may as well make as many of the SpeedHut panels as the material would support.
Six will be available. Three have the hole for the dimmer, three don't. I figured some folks may not want to mount the dimmer in the dash, others would.
One has a flaw (a gack in the edge, pointed out in the pic) on what will be the tipped flange. This flaw can't be see once installed but I'll knock off $10 for that one.
Anyway...
If you're still interested, I should have these ready to go in a week or so.
- these are .063 3003 aluminum
- they will not be painted
- they do not have the raised stamping for the dimmer
- they are set up for a 4.5" center gauge, 4" outer gauges
$35 plus shipping from 94952.
Yes, I'd said $20 earlier but that was a year ago and I was being too generous with my time and consumables. Just be thankful I'm not making them out of wood.
Let me know if you're interested. I'll probably make more once I get more material.
Thanks again for your patience.
Chris
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Well worth $35. Chris was kind enough to send me one of his prototypes. The gauges fit PERFECTLY. Not a mm of play. It looks stock and you can paint it any color you want. I hogged out the dimmer hole and made it my brake warning light. If you have speedhut gauges and don’t have the ability to make one of these you may want to act quickly!
I'll take one. will send a pm
When you're a tool whore like me, you look for any reason/excuse for more shop goodies!
Since I'm making a few of these gauge panels for others, I simply couldn't deliver them without duplicating the stock panel's screw dimples.
So I treated myself to a Tatco hand squeezer with a rivet and dimple die set.
1. Drill an appropriate hole
2. Select the desired die
3. Position the die in the hole (orientation matters!)
4. SQUEEZE!
A dimple is created and the factory fastener sits just like we'd want it to. It's the little details like this that I really like.
It's great having the right tool for the job and now that I have it, I'll wrap up the gauge panels for those who've asked for one.
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If any of these are still available I will gladly take one.
Hi Chris,
I'd like one of these too, if there are any left (preferably without the dimmer hole).
Chris, I still want one - with a dimmer hole.
Thanks again!
Panels are ready to ship and I'll be contacting the interested parties to get shipping info.
The final update, and please check the pics, is:
- the panel front is sanded w/80 grit on an orbital and is essentially ready to install as is, or paint
- the panel rear surface has just been tidied up a bit
- each panel has through the stretcher and fully mounted to verify fit to a stock dash
- these panels DO NOT have holes for those two "under side" mounting screws
- for those who are getting a "with hole" for your dimmer knob, I've included a flatted washer that you'll need to slip over the dimmer shaft before installing it in the panel. As I mentioned earlier, it's the little things!
NOTE: When fitting your gauges, you may find you have to "screw" the gauge into the hole. Once it's in past the threads on the gauge body, there's a little bit of movement within the hole. I like to position the gauge so it's "resting" on the bottom, then tighten up the mounting ring.
Once you receive your panel, if you have any questions or issues, just contact me and we'll work it out.
Finally, if you would, please post up some pics, once you get your gauges installed.
Thanks and I hope you like them!
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I shipped all the ordered panels today. Those who ordered one have a PM with the payment details.
Thanks and lets see some pics once you get it installed.
Chris
Here is mine in place with some "phantom" gauges
Thanks again Chris! It was great catching up too
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Thanks again @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=19241 . I need to order a combo gauge and will paint it to look factory color. Saved me a ton of time
Hi Chris,
I came across the post for custom instrument cluster face. I am interested in purchasing one if you are still making them. I live locally, so can even pick up and pay cash. Thanks, Jonathan
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=26046 Jonathan - PM sent
+1 for making a few extras! New Mexico is a bit far to travel to make my own, though almost worth just to say “I made it!”
I am in for one also. I would be wiling to pay $75 (plus a case of beer to help the social part).
I just bought a Speedhut speedometer but now I'm thinking why not replace all the gauges to make them the same. Doubt it would be plug and play...Difficultly level with new senders etc?
Chris, Other maybe you could put Jonathan on the production line?
Sorry about the necro-revival, but any chance that these will ever make a comeback in production? Found them through searching and man would they fit nicely in my project.
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=19241 You rock, thanks man! And you've got a new subscriber, love the channel!
I'll send you a PM now.
I'd like to have one of these too! PM Sent.
In for one sized in the middle for the Speedhut tach but stock outers...?
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