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Posted by: frostyf Jun 19 2020, 11:05 AM

Just wanted to get opinions on the quality of URO spares vs Lemforder??

Im looking at tie-rod assembly's and 19mm master cylinders but the URO spares are literally half the price of Lemforder!

Has anyone tried and had issues with the URO spares quality? Are they sumply not worth it?

Thanks, Nick

Posted by: UROpartsman Jun 19 2020, 12:22 PM

Hi Nick, our Turbo Tie Rod Kit https://apaindustries.com/parts/4348 has been well-received in the 911 community. We've even been providing OEM bellows with our kits for the last year or so, after having issues with the rubber bellows in our kits sold prior to 2019.
• See this Garage Time - Restomod video for a kit overview: https://youtu.be/kjg82Gv_-Go
• After watching the beginning, you can skip ahead to https://youtu.be/kjg82Gv_-Go?t=1498 if you only want to see the tie rod kit portion.

Our Master Cylinder https://apaindustries.com/parts/4121 has undergone several running changes over the last few years:
• In early 2018, we discovered that customers didn't realize they had to reuse their original stand-off washers (located under the rubber grommets) for the fluid feed lines. Not using the washers resulted in minor reservoir fluid leakage, which resulted in some hysteria online (even though reservoir line weep has nothing to do with brake line pressure). Rather than add a note to the box about reusing the washers, we began providing new, pre-installed washers. Installation and bleeding Porsche 914 master cylinders is still difficult and unpleasant, but providing the stand-off washers made installation a bit easier for folks.

• In Fall of 2018 we had a production run with mounting ears that were a bit thicker than OE, though this had no impact on fitment or performance. Ears were thinned to match OE for subsequent production runs.

• In Summer of 2019, we received some reports of fluid weeping from the Welch plug on the cylinder body. Our engineers tested quite a few units from inventory at very high fluid pressure (much higher than maximum vehicle braking pressure), but were unable to force any units to leak at the Welch plug. But just to be sure, we had the production line start adding a high-strength epoxy sealant to the top periphery of the plug.

If anyone has any issues with a recently-purchased master cylinder, we certainly want to hear about it. If anyone bought one of the older units and had issues with it, we're happy to provide you with a warranty exchange, just send us a message and we'll get you taken care of.

Posted by: 914Sixer Jun 19 2020, 12:45 PM

Good to hear improvements have been made to URO parts.

Posted by: frostyf Jun 19 2020, 07:31 PM

Thank you for the details of the various updates!

Posted by: nickg Jun 27 2020, 05:11 PM

be aware that Lemforder is also making them ( and a lot of parts ) in china...so older ones in Germany are gonna cost if you can locate them

Posted by: mepstein Jun 27 2020, 06:45 PM

QUOTE(nickg @ Jun 27 2020, 07:11 PM)

Posted by: Tdskip Jun 27 2020, 09:56 PM

I needed help on something several months ago and @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=19288 Was very responsive and stood by their product.

Posted by: Montreal914 Jun 28 2020, 11:30 AM

Positive comments from the rep doesn't really prove anything...

Anyone with 100,000 miles experience on installed parts who can share feedback, 914 or 911?

Posted by: frostyf Jun 28 2020, 11:58 AM

QUOTE(mepstein @ Jun 28 2020, 01:45 AM)

QUOTE(nickg @ Jun 27 2020, 07:11 PM)

be aware that Lemforder is also making them ( and a lot of parts ) in china...so older ones in Germany are gonna cost if you can locate them

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=346346&hl=Lemforder

Posted by: frostyf Jun 28 2020, 12:18 PM

So I plumped with a lemforder turbo tie rod set, but would have bought the URO set if Id spotted the price Ive just become aware of.

I noticed in the NOS add Mark H sold to Mark E, it says washers not required for 914.

Does anyone know if this refers to the spacer washer between the inner tie rod end and the steering rack?? In Ian's you tube video he says they're required to prevent damage should the rack hyper extend. Does anyone know, is that the case for 914's or is the spacer washer not needed.

Hope I've not misunderstood the add text but in my crude measurements I might need to buy thinner spacer washers as I could so with some more reduction to my new tie rod lengths.

Does anyone know regarding the washer requirement??

Thanks, Nick

Posted by: ConeDodger Jun 28 2020, 12:50 PM

I went with Lemdorfer. I don’t fool around with anything that steers or stops the car...

Posted by: mepstein Jun 28 2020, 04:46 PM

QUOTE(frostyf @ Jun 28 2020, 02:18 PM)