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Posted by: Ansbacher Jul 24 2020, 12:34 PM

I've searched and read a million articles on dropping the engine using floor jack(s) but cannot find a stated minimum in inches needed for clearance in the rear to pull it out. I can pull my carbs and oil breather box to lessen the vertical dimension of the engine and I will be removing the rear valence to provide more clearance. I have a low-profile jack and a Tangerine lift plate. Anyone have a ball park figure on the height needed from the ground to the back bottom of the car to get this beast out?
Car is a '74 2.0L. Thanks.

Ansbacher

Posted by: nditiz1 Jul 24 2020, 12:38 PM

Rhino Ramps.

Let me go measure. I only had my back wheels on Rhino Ramps and the carbs removed to drop the engine last time.

Posted by: mepstein Jul 24 2020, 01:22 PM

I've done it a couple times with the rear wheels on metal ramps and the front wheels on the ground. Rear valance removed. Stock with the air cleaner and electric engine fan off.

Posted by: bretth Jul 24 2020, 01:32 PM

I have done it with the rear tires sitting on five 2" x 8" boards under each tire. It was a tight fit but the rear bumper and valance were still attached. I think each 2 x 8 is actually 1.5" tall so my wheels were 7.5" off the ground (with compressed suspension) and I think the rear was about 24" off the ground. I lowered the engine and trans onto a furniture dolly and rolled it out the back.

Posted by: Ansbacher Jul 24 2020, 01:35 PM

Mepstein: Did you have any problem with the engine bar clearing the ramps when pulling out to the rear?

Ansbacher

Posted by: Ansbacher Jul 24 2020, 01:37 PM

Thanks Bretth, those are great numbers for me to chew on.

Ansbacher

Posted by: mepstein Jul 24 2020, 01:49 PM

QUOTE(Ansbacher @ Jul 24 2020, 03:35 PM) *

Mepstein: Did you have any problem with the engine bar clearing the ramps when pulling out to the rear?

Ansbacher

No. You have to angle it and wiggle a bit to get it past the different chassis parts, axles and cv's but my advice, if this is your first time, is to take your time. Don't set a time goal, just go step by step and be safe and enjoy learning the process. It's so easy that even I can do it. My only mistake is I always forget to remove the trans ground strap and then have to do it with the engine balanced on the jack. Remove the strap first.

Posted by: Ansbacher Jul 24 2020, 02:14 PM

Mepstein: Great advice. Yes, first time. Am retired and have all the time in the world to be methodic and careful. Plus I have a willing and strong helper in my neighbor across the street. Am looking forward to this job. At the end, I should have a new clutch and a trans and engine that doesn't leak.

Ansbacher

Posted by: Superhawk996 Jul 24 2020, 03:46 PM

QUOTE(mepstein @ Jul 24 2020, 03:49 PM) *

My only mistake is I always forget to remove the trans ground strap and then have to do it with the engine balanced on the jack. Remove the strap first.


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Been there done that.

Great suggestion - Remove strap 1st. aktion035.gif

Posted by: nditiz1 Jul 24 2020, 05:37 PM

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=17589 I'm about to drop mine to hopefully seal up some head to cylinder air leaks as well as reseal some pushrod tubes with new tubes and seals, add a new thermostat, add new engine bay seals, install a new clutch, RMS,... beer3.gif beer3.gif beer3.gif

Posted by: BillC Jul 24 2020, 07:18 PM

I put my car up on four 12" Race Ramps wheel cribs and had enough room to remove my engine (with air filter) without removing the rear valance. This was with the engine sitting on an old NAPA floor jack with the Tangerine Racing engine cradle.

Posted by: 76-914 Jul 24 2020, 07:30 PM

QUOTE(bretth @ Jul 24 2020, 12:32 PM) *

I have done it with the rear tires sitting on five 2" x 8" boards under each tire. It was a tight fit but the rear bumper and valance were still attached. I think each 2 x 8 is actually 1.5" tall so my wheels were 7.5" off the ground (with compressed suspension) and I think the rear was about 24" off the ground. I lowered the engine and trans onto a furniture dolly and rolled it out the back.

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Posted by: SKL1 Jul 24 2020, 07:52 PM

My '73 is on jack stands right now as I've removed the engine. Highest point was the oil filler. I'll measure tomorrow when I'm at the shop.

The engine has carbs though I took them off. Manifolds are lower than the oil filler.

Posted by: jaredmcginness Jul 24 2020, 08:06 PM

With only reading the title, as I m mildly intoxicated, I needed about 2 feet of clearance, with all the fuel injection stuff to pull my motor.

4 jack stands did the job.

Posted by: cuddy_k Jul 24 2020, 10:08 PM

I think my Quick Jack gets the frame 22" off the ground. I also take the rear valance off and the engine clears fine. Wihtout the air filter box on, of course.

You never forget your first time wink.gif Hope this helps...


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Posted by: dangrouche Jul 25 2020, 09:37 PM

QUOTE(Ansbacher @ Jul 24 2020, 11:34 AM) *

I've searched and read a million articles on dropping the engine using floor jack(s) but cannot find a stated minimum in inches needed for clearance in the rear to pull it out. I can pull my carbs and oil breather box to lessen the vertical dimension of the engine and I will be removing the rear valence to provide more clearance. I have a low-profile jack and a Tangerine lift plate. Anyone have a ball park figure on the height needed from the ground to the back bottom of the car to get this beast out?
Car is a '74 2.0L. Thanks.

Ansbacher

I have to find a picture I did it about 11 years ago; it was about 25 inches. also here is a pic of the rear hub (yes I am studded with spacers) I did not remove the rear valance. I have the 2.0 liter with fuel injection, but obviously removed the air cleaner assembly, leaving the throttle body exposed. lemme find that pictureAttached ImageAttached Image

Posted by: SKL1 Jul 26 2020, 12:16 PM

Just over 22" from ground to bottom of rear valance. Highest part the oil filler neck.Attached Image

Posted by: Ansbacher Jul 26 2020, 03:50 PM

You guys have really gone all out answering my query. I really appreciate all the input, pictures, measurements, and encouragement. I will probably tackle the drop next weekend.

Thanks everybody !!!!

Ansbacher

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