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Posted by: Unobtanium-inc Jul 30 2020, 05:31 PM
Ambitious, but the bones look good.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/283958124180
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Posted by: jaredmcginness Jul 30 2020, 05:58 PM
I just came here to post this.
I want to say “yikes” but I still want it in my driveway. There have been worse offered for more.
Posted by: Beebo Kanelle Jul 30 2020, 06:06 PM
How much is the reserve?
Posted by: Cairo94507 Jul 30 2020, 06:27 PM
I wish it was still in the desert. 
Posted by: sixnotfour Jul 30 2020, 06:53 PM
VW Porsche mag Aug. 1980
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Posted by: VegasRacer Jul 30 2020, 07:18 PM
VW Porsche mag Aug. 1980
Thanks Jeff. I knew I had seen that car somewhere before.
Posted by: rgalla9146 Jul 30 2020, 07:33 PM
Maybe cheap to get into......not so cheap to bring back.
Bring money, talent and time.
Restored is best.
Posted by: Unobtanium-inc Jul 30 2020, 07:48 PM
What would make this car cool would be a big six motor and some flares, make a real monster, and in the end it would be a real six, so could justify the money you put into it. Depending on how cheap it sells for.
Posted by: ctc911ctc Jul 30 2020, 07:56 PM
OK, who did this conversion????!!!
I know you are lurking out there!
You can admit it, we are all friends here.....we completely understand.....
It was the 80's, Miami Vice was a cool look, just change a few of the lines....... 
Oh, and add a Super Graphic, yea! Totally get it! 
I figure you have all of the parts you took out in your garage......send me a note, we can talk! 
Posted by: Beakster Jul 30 2020, 07:58 PM
Having Owning one of these Chaton kit ... I don't think its a TRUE -6 .. I think the seller thinks he has a 6 because of the extra parts .. But mine has the same Parts... Still Dosen't make it a 6 .. Why would he put in the ad 2.0 ?? Strange ... Plus No Engine or Trans .. 
Posted by: Unobtanium-inc Jul 30 2020, 08:13 PM
It was the 80's, Miami Vice was a cool look, just change a few of the lines.......
Don't knock Miami Vice!
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Posted by: carr914 Jul 30 2020, 08:50 PM
Having Owning one of these Chaton kit ... I don't think its a TRUE -6 .. I think the seller thinks he has a 6 because of the extra parts .. But mine has the same Parts... Still Dosen't make it a 6 .. Why would he put in the ad 2.0 ?? Strange ... Plus No Engine or Trans ..
Did you see the VIN? It's a Six
Posted by: SO.O.C914er Jul 30 2020, 09:01 PM
I still have a copy of that VW-Porsche in the garage! 
....Paul
Posted by: brant Jul 30 2020, 09:47 PM
I have a copy of that issue!
Posted by: pete000 Jul 30 2020, 10:04 PM
Would be interesting to find out if it was that same cover car all these years later !
Posted by: flyer86d Jul 31 2020, 02:10 AM
I saw this car earlier this week. It is a real -6 and it is very rust free. It needs four fenders and the damaged rear panel replaced. I think he is including a replacement rear panel. The original fenders were removed where they normally attach. It had a seized 3.2 in it when Matt bought it and the -6 serial are all present and accounted for as well as the Karmen body number in front of the rear trunk latch. Somebody save it. I have one and don’t need two at this time.
Charlie
Posted by: jaredmcginness Jul 31 2020, 05:17 AM
Still Dosen't make it a 6 .. Why would he put in the ad 2.0 ?? Strange ... Plus No Engine or Trans ..
The flat sixes equipped on the 914 six was a 2.0l sourced from a 911T. So the ad is accurate.
Posted by: Cairo94507 Jul 31 2020, 06:34 AM
See, that is why I love this site. Someone asks a question because they are unfamiliar with what makes a real Six and members take the time to explain why it is in fact a Six. Everyone learns in the process. On most other car forums the fur would have been flying. Civility wins the day.
Posted by: davep Jul 31 2020, 06:41 AM
VIN 9140431368
I also have that VW Porsche magazine issue; and many more. Forty years!
Posted by: bbrock Jul 31 2020, 07:39 AM
If I wasn't suffering from restoration fatigue already and had more shop space, I'd bid on this. Looks like a great project and probably the only way I could ever afford a real six. Somebody should get it.
Posted by: ClayPerrine Jul 31 2020, 07:48 AM
My mental process right now...
I have an original six motor in pieces in the garage, I have the guts of a six transmission with the right gear ratios...
STOP IT! You already have a real six... This one would take loads of body work to be brought back to stock
But it is a real six. It needs saved!
You are not a body man.. this would require a LOT of money and time to fix
BUT IT IS A REAL SIX!!!!!
You haven't even finished your big six conversion, your current real six, and your BMW. Plus you have to get Betty's car back up and running, and you want to buy a 914 race car.
DAMN......
Posted by: Unobtanium-inc Jul 31 2020, 08:26 AM
My mental process right now...
I have an original six motor in pieces in the garage, I have the guts of a six transmission with the right gear ratios... STOP IT! You already have a real six... This one would take loads of body work to be brought back to stock But it is a real six. It needs saved! You are not a body man.. this would require a LOT of money and time to fix BUT IT IS A REAL SIX!!!!! You haven't even finished your big six conversion, your current real six, and your BMW. Plus you have to get Betty's car back up and running, and you want to buy a 914 race car. DAMN...... For the last 10 years I held onto two original 6 motors, thinking a roller would come along. Finally about a year ago I said enough, put both motors in different early 911's and off they went. Then this pops up, a couple of hours away. It's always the way it is, if you have it, you don't need it, if you need it, you don't have it.
Posted by: JmuRiz Jul 31 2020, 09:16 AM
I'd be tempted to bring it back to the magazine setup...talk about oddball 
Plus it'd piss off more purists 
Posted by: gandalf_025 Jul 31 2020, 09:22 AM
It would seem to me that replacing 4 fenders
would be a whole lot easier than replacing rusted out
or crash damaged structure..
If the car isn’t rusty, I’ve seen WAY worse saved..
Looks like 99% of the six stuff is still with the car.
Anyone looking for a six project, knowing it
won’t be numbers matching probably could buy a lot worse..
Posted by: ClayPerrine Jul 31 2020, 10:19 AM
My mental process right now...
I have an original six motor in pieces in the garage, I have the guts of a six transmission with the right gear ratios... STOP IT! You already have a real six... This one would take loads of body work to be brought back to stock But it is a real six. It needs saved! You are not a body man.. this would require a LOT of money and time to fix BUT IT IS A REAL SIX!!!!! You haven't even finished your big six conversion, your current real six, and your BMW. Plus you have to get Betty's car back up and running, and you want to buy a 914 race car. DAMN...... For the last 10 years I held onto two original 6 motors, thinking a roller would come along. Finally about a year ago I said enough, put both motors in different early 911's and off they went. Then this pops up, a couple of hours away. It's always the way it is, if you have it, you don't need it, if you need it, you don't have it.
So, go buy it, and I will sell you the -6 motor I have.
Clay
Posted by: Unobtanium-inc Jul 31 2020, 10:30 AM
My mental process right now...
I have an original six motor in pieces in the garage, I have the guts of a six transmission with the right gear ratios... STOP IT! You already have a real six... This one would take loads of body work to be brought back to stock But it is a real six. It needs saved! You are not a body man.. this would require a LOT of money and time to fix BUT IT IS A REAL SIX!!!!! You haven't even finished your big six conversion, your current real six, and your BMW. Plus you have to get Betty's car back up and running, and you want to buy a 914 race car. DAMN...... For the last 10 years I held onto two original 6 motors, thinking a roller would come along. Finally about a year ago I said enough, put both motors in different early 911's and off they went. Then this pops up, a couple of hours away. It's always the way it is, if you have it, you don't need it, if you need it, you don't have it.
So, go buy it, and I will sell you the -6 motor I have.
Clay
The only problem with that was the two six motors I have, I paid $500 each for them. I'm assuming yours isn't $500.
Posted by: ClayPerrine Jul 31 2020, 10:34 AM
My mental process right now...
I have an original six motor in pieces in the garage, I have the guts of a six transmission with the right gear ratios... STOP IT! You already have a real six... This one would take loads of body work to be brought back to stock But it is a real six. It needs saved! You are not a body man.. this would require a LOT of money and time to fix BUT IT IS A REAL SIX!!!!! You haven't even finished your big six conversion, your current real six, and your BMW. Plus you have to get Betty's car back up and running, and you want to buy a 914 race car. DAMN...... For the last 10 years I held onto two original 6 motors, thinking a roller would come along. Finally about a year ago I said enough, put both motors in different early 911's and off they went. Then this pops up, a couple of hours away. It's always the way it is, if you have it, you don't need it, if you need it, you don't have it.
So, go buy it, and I will sell you the -6 motor I have.
Clay
The only problem with that was the two six motors I have, I paid $500 each for them. I'm assuming yours isn't $500.
Nope. And it is disassembled too. I have all the pieces, but it has to be rebuilt.
Posted by: Superhawk996 Jul 31 2020, 10:38 AM
get yer bid snipper bids in now. This one is going to jump price in the last few milli-seconds of the auction.
Posted by: Unobtanium-inc Jul 31 2020, 10:46 AM
My mental process right now...
I have an original six motor in pieces in the garage, I have the guts of a six transmission with the right gear ratios... STOP IT! You already have a real six... This one would take loads of body work to be brought back to stock But it is a real six. It needs saved! You are not a body man.. this would require a LOT of money and time to fix BUT IT IS A REAL SIX!!!!! You haven't even finished your big six conversion, your current real six, and your BMW. Plus you have to get Betty's car back up and running, and you want to buy a 914 race car. DAMN...... For the last 10 years I held onto two original 6 motors, thinking a roller would come along. Finally about a year ago I said enough, put both motors in different early 911's and off they went. Then this pops up, a couple of hours away. It's always the way it is, if you have it, you don't need it, if you need it, you don't have it.
So, go buy it, and I will sell you the -6 motor I have.
Clay
The only problem with that was the two six motors I have, I paid $500 each for them. I'm assuming yours isn't $500.
Nope. And it is disassembled too. I have all the pieces, but it has to be rebuilt.
Right so my situation is I had a longblock in the corner that I paid $500 for, see a six roller come by, grab it, throw the motor in, throw some Zenith's on there, and you have a car. Which is a good spot to sell a car. Your plan would work fine if I was hoping to build a six for myself. Get the roller at a decent price, get the motor bits from you, get the motor built, and have a cool car. You can see the dilemma.
Posted by: gandalf_025 Jul 31 2020, 10:48 AM
Why would any of you people want an original 6 motor..::???
All I see is that they are a lump and slow and not worth dealing with
if they aren’t matching #. Seems like a contradiction...??
Posted by: Al Meredith Jul 31 2020, 10:53 AM
It's great to see how many of us still have the old VW & Porsche mags . I still have the 1960s issue of Dune Buggies and Hot VWs That has the plans for the first "Formcar" Formula V when Brundage first invented the Class. Interesting to see how many of us first got this infection. Al
Posted by: burton73 Jul 31 2020, 11:35 AM
Condition:Used
“Used genuine Porsche 914-6 without the motor or transmission. Solid Mojave desert car.”
Ended:Jul 31, 2020 , 10:34AM
Current bid:US $10,400.00[ 32 bids ]
Bob B
Posted by: nditiz1 Jul 31 2020, 11:35 AM
10,400 unsold ^beat me to it
Posted by: flyer86d Jul 31 2020, 12:24 PM
If it didn’t sell, Matt still has it. Call Retro Automotive in Claremont, NH and make him an offer. It’s a real -6 and one of us should save it. I won’t live long enough to finish it as it would get in line behind my 356 Roadster and my 914-6.
Charlie
Posted by: Superhawk996 Jul 31 2020, 12:28 PM
That's right around what I'd be willing to go to. For the right affecianado, I thought it might jump to $17K-$20K based on the other flamed out wreck that has been offered up a couple times in the past.
Hard to tell what reserve was. Could be completely irrational like $50k who knows.
Posted by: Unobtanium-inc Jul 31 2020, 01:22 PM
That bidding seems about right for a roller needing complete bodywork. The wrecked one that keeps popping up is at least matching numbers with motor and gearbox. This one will always be a pig in a poke, maybe a cool one, but will never command top money.
I wonder what his reserve was?
Posted by: framos914 Jul 31 2020, 02:52 PM
Yup, would be nice to know the reserve price.
The other 6 last week that needed a crane to remove from back yard must have been fake.
Posted by: Cairo94507 Jul 31 2020, 03:51 PM
Call me crazy, but it's at about the max I would pay given what it needs and what it does not come with. I hope someone here grabs it and does it justice by returning the body to a stock or GT body.
Posted by: gms Jul 31 2020, 05:44 PM
Why would any of you people want an original 6 motor..::???
All I see is that they are a lump and slow and not worth dealing with
if they aren’t matching #. Seems like a contradiction...??
It is crazy what people ask for an original 914/6 engine! if it is not original (even one number off) it is still a none matching engine and you have added nothing to the value of the car...why not put something with more HP.
Posted by: SirAndy Jul 31 2020, 05:53 PM
I wonder what his reserve was?
Judging from the prices on some of his other Porsche items for sale, i think it's safe to say his reserve was much, much, much higher than $10k.
Posted by: tygaboy Jul 31 2020, 06:08 PM
Talk me out of calling Matt, buying it and sending it to Kent and the crew in LA....
I'm busy with my own project. Plus, this one deserves better quality than what I could do and I'm not good at leaving things even remotely stock.
I'm thinking narrow body with gas burners and something like a 2.2.
Again, please: talk me out of it.
Posted by: VegasRacer Jul 31 2020, 06:21 PM
I'd be tempted to bring it back to the magazine setup...talk about oddball
Plus it'd piss off more purists I think it would be prefect for a Subaru turbo.
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Posted by: porschetub Jul 31 2020, 06:31 PM
I wonder what his reserve was?
Judging from the prices on some of his other Porsche items for sale, i think it's safe to say his reserve was much, much, much higher than $10k.
Yes most like likely but have dealt with him before his stuff is top notch,I do find his 914 parts are somewhat "up there".
First purchase was 911 internal handbrake parts for one side,he included a set of "wear parts for the other side for free ,like $50 which I thought was fair and parts came beadblasted…..just saying.
No rust in the shell good but I assumed these kits required bastardization to fit the glass panels ? if so the repair work and replacement steel panels could be rather spendy also.
Posted by: mepstein Jul 31 2020, 09:29 PM
I wonder what his reserve was?
Judging from the prices on some of his other Porsche items for sale, i think it's safe to say his reserve was much, much, much higher than $10k.
Yes most like likely but have dealt with him before his stuff is top notch,I do find his 914 parts are somewhat "up there".
First purchase was 911 internal handbrake parts for one side,he included a set of "wear parts for the other side for free ,like $50 which I thought was fair and parts came beadblasted…..just saying.
No rust in the shell good but I assumed these kits required bastardization to fit the glass panels ? if so the repair work and replacement steel panels could be rather spendy also.
Lots of cutting with a sawzall and then flattening over with a hammer. Adhesive and bondo.
Posted by: 914werke Aug 1 2020, 08:29 AM
Meh
I remember that issue & probably also have it in a box with hundreds of old cycle & Porsche mags
Posted by: Superhawk996 Aug 1 2020, 09:39 AM
Better question is how does this car go from being on the cover of a magazine to this condition.
Poor 914's have had a rough life.
Posted by: Porschef Aug 1 2020, 09:58 AM
I saw this car earlier this week. It is a real -6 and it is very rust free. It needs four fenders and the damaged rear panel replaced. I think he is including a replacement rear panel. The original fenders were removed where they normally attach. It had a seized 3.2 in it when Matt bought it and the -6 serial are all present and accounted for as well as the Karmen body number in front of the rear trunk latch. Somebody save it. I have one and don’t need two at this time.
Charlie
I was just gonna give you the heads up...
Posted by: BillJ Aug 1 2020, 10:49 AM
No longer available. Someone fess up
Posted by: rgalla9146 Aug 1 2020, 11:00 AM
I hope I don't regret passing on this one.
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Posted by: BillJ Aug 1 2020, 02:33 PM
That is a wall art installation I would love to have
Posted by: Beakster Aug 1 2020, 08:22 PM
What I don't Understand is that I have always been told from the Purist is that the Chalon's kits on a 914 are and you have a piece of shit because it NOT an original stock car .. Mine looks the Same as this one just a different color and 2.0 eng And I'm being told it's a piece of shit .. BUT Now someone has put a Chalon kit on a six and these guys are all getting moist and talking a different tune .. How is that ??? Don't see the Numbers of what it is going down the street .. Nor do you know what engine is in it .. All I see is all the 914 Chalon kit cars all look the same no Matter What the VIN # is .. So I'm a little Confused ..
Posted by: mepstein Aug 1 2020, 08:40 PM
What I don't Understand is that I have always been told from the Purist is that the Chalon's kits on a 914 are and you have a piece of shit because it NOT an original stock car .. Mine looks the Same as this one just a different color and 2.0 eng And I'm being told it's a piece of shit .. BUT Now someone has put a Chalon kit on a six and these guys are all getting moist and talking a different tune .. How is that ??? Don't see the Numbers of what it is going down the street .. Nor do you know what engine is in it .. All I see is all the 914 Chalon kit cars all look the same no Matter What the VIN # is .. So I'm a little Confused ..
If it's cheap enough you can pull off the kit and restore to stock.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=347661&hl=
Posted by: djway Aug 1 2020, 11:25 PM
Talk me out of calling Matt, buying it and sending it to Kent and the crew in LA....
I'm busy with my own project. Plus, this one deserves better quality than what I could do and I'm not good at leaving things even remotely stock.
I'm thinking narrow body with gas burners and something like a 2.2.
Again, please: talk me out of it.
Just do it 
Posted by: djway Aug 1 2020, 11:28 PM
VW Porsche mag Aug. 1980
I remember around the time of this issue a red Chalon with the whale tale was on the TV show ALICE. I remember something about a pissed off wife that sold the car for a dollar.
Posted by: SirAndy Aug 2 2020, 10:49 AM
If it's cheap enough you can pull off the kit and restore to stock.
Posted by: sixnotfour Aug 2 2020, 10:52 AM
the blue chalon six years ago is back in germany vintage GT style racer now..
Posted by: SirAndy Aug 2 2020, 11:56 AM
I was just thinking about that car, i was lucky enough to get some seat time in it at Streets of Willows when it still had the Chalon kit on it.
Posted by: sixnotfour Aug 2 2020, 12:05 PM
I was just thinking about that car, i was lucky enough to get some seat time in it at Streets of Willows when it still had the Chalon kit on it.
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Posted by: sixnotfour Aug 2 2020, 12:10 PM
I was wrong still in the US or was..
www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=96728&hl=
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Posted by: Superhawk996 Aug 2 2020, 12:12 PM
All I see is all the 914 Chalon kit cars all look the same no Matter What the VIN # is .. So I'm a little Confused ..
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=19055
Porsche 914/4 -- maybe worth $40-50K on high end for a nice conversion with a six.
Very original Porsche 914/4 with something like 5,000 original DOCUMENTED miles in stellar condition went for $90K at auction recently but every mile it is ever driven results in MASSIVE depreciation since the value was in the low milage.
914/6's regularly going for over $100K even for those that are not original and/or restored to a decent standard. A real 914/6 GT with race history recently went over $900K.
Simple math. Has nothing to do with the Chalon kit. Whoever buys will strip the Chalon kit and put back to some sort of 914/6 configuration. Depending on on the reserve price and how the work is done (DIY or professional restoration), it could be a smoking deal or a money pit that barely breaks even.
Based on the flamed out wreck with matching VIN's that hasn't sold, it seems that the value of the 914/6 VIN alone is somewhere above $10K and below $17K. In my mind car this could be higher since the start from point is so much better than with the flamed wreck.
Posted by: Beakster Aug 2 2020, 12:36 PM
My beef is .. a modified 914 is a Modified Car no matter how it's been modified some more then others .. No matter how some guys want to justify it or call what you (mine) a 
.. Bottom line is that these cars are 40+ years old and ALL need help in some way 
.. I remember years ago on this subject when I went from 911's to 914's .. Which in the 911world a 914 is
I have learn otherwise ..
Posted by: Superhawk996 Aug 2 2020, 01:18 PM
My beef is .. a modified 914 is a Modified Car no matter how it's been modified some more then others .. No matter how some guys want to justify it or call what you (mine) a
.. Bottom line is that these cars are 40+ years old and ALL need help in some way .. I remember years ago on this subject when I went from 911's to 914's .. Which in the 911world a 914 is I have learn otherwise ..
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=19055
Ultimately it doesn't matter what you or I think.
Free market price is set by the price a voluntary buyer is willing to pay to a voluntary seller.
Well at least your were able to finally see that the 914 is by far the superior platform.
and came over from the dark side. Nothing wrong with a Chalon in my book, I used to desperatly want one in the late 80's early 90's. My tastes just changed with time and now I prefer the GT look but hold nothing against Chalons.
Posted by: Beakster Aug 2 2020, 01:32 PM
Superhawk ...
I see the Chalon kit on a 914 is like the Slantnose on a 911 or (930)
or Widebody Slantnose 914 ..
Posted by: sixnotfour Aug 2 2020, 01:48 PM
this one was on ebay 46k real six
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Posted by: Beakster Aug 2 2020, 02:27 PM
this one was on ebay 46k real six
Yes ... !! Mine is just Flat Black with a 2.0 (Right Now) till it Passes inspection ...
Posted by: dlee6204 Aug 12 2020, 05:53 PM
It's back...
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Porsche-914-Chalon/363074535607?hash=item5488edc0b7:g:x5EAAOSwQcJfGxPZ
Posted by: Superhawk996 Aug 13 2020, 06:13 AM
It's back...
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Porsche-914-Chalon/363074535607?hash=item5488edc0b7:g:x5EAAOSwQcJfGxPZ
Someday I'll probably wish I had bought the darn thing! Still don't fully understand how this goes from cover of a magazine to this state.
Poor 914's led rough lives.
Posted by: Unobtanium-inc Aug 13 2020, 06:16 AM
It's back...
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Porsche-914-Chalon/363074535607?hash=item5488edc0b7:g:x5EAAOSwQcJfGxPZ
Someday I'll probably wish I had bought the darn thing! Still don't fully understand how this goes from cover of a magazine to this state.
Poor 914's led rough lives.Not just 914's, many a Porsche has gone from great car to thrown out with the trash. Take my 911 for example, special ordered by a King, King Hussein of Jordan, only to be left decades later rotting in a field.
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Posted by: rhodyguy Aug 13 2020, 06:38 AM
Cheapest one is the 914 you don't buy.
Posted by: Root_Werks Aug 13 2020, 09:04 AM
Cheapest one is the 914 you don't buy.
Paid $30k-ish for my converted 914-6 and it still needs about $15k worth of work. Dunno if there is such a thing as a cheap six anymore unless you get lucky.
Posted by: Unobtanium-inc Sep 5 2020, 07:24 AM
Looks like it finally sold.
$17,800
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Porsche-914-Chalon-/363074535607?nma=true&si=5d5AEHWRF3VU%252Fql1KAbKah1Pvkg%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Posted by: Superhawk996 Sep 5 2020, 07:43 AM
Looks like it finally sold.
$17,800
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Porsche-914-Chalon-/363074535607?nma=true&si=5d5AEHWRF3VU%252Fql1KAbKah1Pvkg%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
And there you have it. Free Market Value of a 914/6 VIN.
Next step, rebuild the rest of the car around the VIN.
Posted by: gms Sep 5 2020, 09:28 AM
Next step, rebuild the rest of the car around the VIN.
That is an incorrect statement!
That car only needs quarter panels and fenders, not even close to building a car around a VIN.
Posted by: flyer86d Sep 5 2020, 09:43 AM
Next step, rebuild the rest of the car around the VIN.
That is an incorrect statement!
That car only needs quarter panels and fenders, not even close to building a car around a VIN.
You hit the nail on the head Glenn. I saw the car in person and it doesn’t appear to need structural repair or accident damage repair. It needs a Chalon delete repair. It is a good starting point.
Charlie
Posted by: webrocket Sep 5 2020, 10:01 AM
To all those haters out there a real 6 chassis is still a rare bird
A matching numbers 6 is beyond most pocketbooks putting a real 6 motor even non matching is a viable option since there where only as many motors made as cars I would think. Most of you can be in your 4s or tribute conversions ,only hating those who have one. I'll stick to my nom matching number 6 All of us have our likes and dislike just let it be.
Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Sep 5 2020, 10:05 AM
the problem is finding new quarters and fenders. Just not available. THEN if one finds a donor car with four good ones, usually the car is worth saving and not cutting up for parts
Posted by: webrocket Sep 5 2020, 10:10 AM
I also would like to say even if you find a motor you have a difficult time knowing if it's correct. Porsche has made it difficulty to identify chassis/motor combos due to those unscrupulous people who swap bins plates and stamp cases just to cheat someone out of cash. You know what happened to Seinfeld .Everyone would like to make there cars correct but finances don't allow I think this one can be saved with deep pockets.
Posted by: horizontally-opposed Sep 5 2020, 10:41 AM
Seems like a smart buy for someone who isn't wrapped up in a 914-6 concours car and just wants a great 914-6 to drive and enjoy.
If it doesn't need structural repairs, it's already miles and miles ahead of a lot of 914s that do, and this one is an idea candidate for a 914-6 GT build if you've got to put four fenders on it anyway. Color change, at this point? Who cares, but Signal Orange is cool. And I'd way rather work with a good rub that needs four fenders than anything that needs "inner fenders" (and more…). While the Chalon kit is creaking in a dumpster, it's perfect time to address chassis stiffening, too.
A dead and/or rusty but straight and complete early 914-4 would make a great donor for parts, and those cars are out there.
Posted by: Superhawk996 Sep 5 2020, 10:47 AM
Next step, rebuild the rest of the car around the VIN.
That is an incorrect statement!
That car only needs quarter panels and fenders, not even close to building a car around a VIN.
I'm a 914/6 lover and previously posted that I wish I could be the one to save it.
However, It needs far more than quarter panels before it will be in the hunt for that $100k 914/6 pricetag. Even with all the work, the final value will be highly dependent on the quality of the restoration and underlying workmanship.
As the Doc stated, it's not quite as simple as lifting some panels off a ratted out /4 and returning it to stock.
I do agree it's not as bad as the other flamed out wreck that has been offered in the past and is a good value to someone, especially if they can do the metalwork, paint, engine, trans, and electrical all in their own shop. Someday I'll wish it had been the right time for me to step up. Unfortunately my hands and garage are already busy with trying to save a /4 that should have been scrapped.
Posted by: gms Sep 5 2020, 12:05 PM
Next step, rebuild the rest of the car around the VIN.
That is an incorrect statement!
That car only needs quarter panels and fenders, not even close to building a car around a VIN.
I'm a 914/6 lover and previously posted that I wish I could be the one to save it.
However, It needs far more than quarter panels before it will be in the hunt for that $100k 914/6 pricetag. Even with all the work, the final value will be highly dependent on the quality of the restoration and underlying workmanship.
As the Doc stated, it's not quite as simple as lifting some panels off a ratted out /4 and returning it to stock.
I do agree it's not as bad as the other flamed out wreck that has been offered in the past and is a good value to someone, especially if they can do the metalwork, paint, engine, trans, and electrical all in their own shop. Someday I'll wish it had been the right time for me to step up. Unfortunately my hands and garage are already busy with trying to save a /4 that should have been scrapped.
Stay tuned and I will show you how it is done
Posted by: sixnotfour Sep 5 2020, 12:08 PM
Glenn it sold for less than,,,
did you aquire it ??
Posted by: bbrock Sep 5 2020, 12:17 PM
If I were looking for another project, this one would have been my dream. Ambitious project at the right price. ![popcorn[1].gif](style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
Posted by: gms Sep 5 2020, 12:31 PM
Glenn it sold for less than,,,
did you aquire it ??
No but I know who did
Posted by: gandalf_025 Sep 5 2020, 01:14 PM
If it is actually solid structurally..
I can’t see it being a bad starting point..
Don’t need all the corners from the same donor car..
Acquire parts patiently and have a factory 6 .
Maybe not numbers matching...
But a solid car...
I’ve seen much worse made into a stellar car
after much rust and collision damage repair...
Posted by: Unobtanium-inc Sep 5 2020, 10:14 PM
the problem is finding new quarters and fenders. Just not available. THEN if one finds a donor car with four good ones, usually the car is worth saving and not cutting up for parts
When I was doing my 914/6 I found a very decent body within a couple of hours drive for $500, not worth saving on it's own, but gave up a lot of good metal.
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Posted by: gms Jan 1 2022, 12:37 PM
The story continues...
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=357507&st=0&gopid=2971091&#entry2971091
Posted by: rick 918-S Jan 1 2022, 10:03 PM
Next step, rebuild the rest of the car around the VIN.
That is an incorrect statement!
That car only needs quarter panels and fenders, not even close to building a car around a VIN.
I'm a 914/6 lover and previously posted that I wish I could be the one to save it.
However, It needs far more than quarter panels before it will be in the hunt for that $100k 914/6 pricetag. Even with all the work, the final value will be highly dependent on the quality of the restoration and underlying workmanship.
As the Doc stated, it's not quite as simple as lifting some panels off a ratted out /4 and returning it to stock.
I do agree it's not as bad as the other flamed out wreck that has been offered in the past and is a good value to someone, especially if they can do the metalwork, paint, engine, trans, and electrical all in their own shop. Someday I'll wish it had been the right time for me to step up. Unfortunately my hands and garage are already busy with trying to save a /4 that should have been scrapped.
Stay tuned and I will show you how it is done
with Glenn body shops change panels all the time. 
Posted by: mepstein Jan 1 2022, 10:18 PM
COTM 914Dave’s GT before and after.
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Posted by: PaulFV8 Jan 2 2022, 01:01 PM
What’s the color code on this one? I’m now thinking of geyser gray
Still finding more rust on my “Clean with solid floors” money pit
Posted by: mepstein Jan 2 2022, 01:44 PM
What’s the color code on this one? I’m now thinking of geyser gray
Still finding more rust on my “Clean with solid floors” money pit
Per Dave - It's off a 1957 356, it's called Stein Grau ( stone grey). It looks green in low light and brownish in direct light. Here's a better pic of the color.
I’ve seen it in person a number of times - stunning.
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