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Posted by: oakdalecurtis Sep 19 2020, 06:22 PM

I had no idea there was so much internal differences in oil filters. I assumed they were all pretty similar. Watch this...

https://youtu.be/iTNJLEV8CG8

Posted by: fixer34 Sep 19 2020, 08:44 PM

I asked this question about oil filters. Pulled the FRAM and bought a Wix XP on Amazon

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=348515&hl=oil+filter

Posted by: Jake Raby Sep 19 2020, 08:58 PM

This isn't new knowledge... Fram has always sucked.
K&N isn't far behind them now, some of their filters I have cut apart have 1/3 of their pleats filled with glue from the assembly process.
Napa Gold (Wix) for me.

Posted by: porschetub Sep 19 2020, 09:06 PM

Never used them and will never on a car of mine,OEM Mahle or Mann,used to use Bosch on my watercooled cars and had no issues with them,I believe this problem has been documented for a while now with Fram,I base my choose on the cost to rebuild my "six" due to a shit oil filter and not keen to test different brands or for that matter any of my engines,in real terms its only a few bucks for a better filter,rant over.
P.S Knecht filters are still availiable as I use them in my Audi 3.0 TDI motors,research indicates they are in fact Mahle filters as Knecht were bought out by Mahle group….same filter different box marketing.

Posted by: 73-914 Sep 19 2020, 09:23 PM

FRAM = Fuching Ruined Another Motor

Posted by: mepstein Sep 19 2020, 09:29 PM

Funny. I bought a Napa gold because there is a Napa distributor warehouse down the street and they were the only ones that had a 914-6 oil filter in stock. I thought I was being cheap/dumb buying Napa over a brand name. Then I see the video and reviews. Now I'm smart.

Posted by: thelogo Sep 19 2020, 09:51 PM

Not sure about 914s my mechinic picks those oil filters



But on all the other cars . that i change oil
On i try to stick with m1 filters 10$ at wallys



But this opened my eyes . about fram
And oil etc



Bobistheoil guy

Posted by: wysri9 Sep 19 2020, 11:25 PM

Amazing.....No doubt about it FRAM are toast. Anybody know the WIX or NAPA part number? They are not that common this side of the pond I think?? I need to find them though

Posted by: Mark Henry Sep 20 2020, 07:05 AM

I've run out of filters, anyone know the NAPA gold filter number for a /6?
I get 1333, is that correct?
right now I'm running an OC 61.

Posted by: Olympic 914 Sep 20 2020, 07:25 AM

Just bought these,

WIX oil filter number for /4 is 51521 There may other models of WIX

They also have an air filter for the 2.0 FI air cleaner #46025

Posted by: fixer34 Sep 20 2020, 05:11 PM

Wix XP 51515 on Amazon for $9 US for a factory 6.
I believe NAPA Silver/Gold all end in 1515 also.

Posted by: 90quattrocoupe Sep 20 2020, 05:12 PM

That is a Mann filter, same as Mann W940. Are you having a problem with the brand? I run Mann, in everything I own. Just wondering why you want to switch?

Greg W.

Posted by: wysri9 Sep 21 2020, 05:06 AM

Perfect many thanks for the info

Posted by: wysri9 Sep 21 2020, 05:10 AM

Just did a search to find a stockist Found one at £25.99 and then this on E bay.....

New (other): lowest price
Approx.
£7.72
+ £102.94 postage
US $10.00

I'll maybe get my son in Oregon to buy a couple and sling them in the post.....

Posted by: Mark Henry Sep 21 2020, 06:33 AM

No the Mann OC61 seem fine, never an issue, I just can't get them local.

Looks like I can get the WIX 51515 from rock auto but only a case of 12, but the price is just under 2 NAPA gold's locally. Rock Auto doesn't have the Mann OC61.
EDIT I see Rock auto has WIX 51515XP filters, maybe I'll give them a try.

I do have a Mann 940/25, which is an early 90's diesel jetta filter that cross references to the OC61.

Posted by: ClayPerrine Sep 21 2020, 12:18 PM

WARNING!! BLATANT SHILLING!

You could contact one of the Porsche parts vendors and get them to send you a few.

I know they keep them in stock at Zims.

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=21587 should be able to help you get them.

Clay

Posted by: UROpartsman Sep 21 2020, 01:19 PM

Mobil1 filters (manufactured by Champion Laboratories) are often said to be good, though expensive.

Posted by: fixer34 Sep 21 2020, 05:34 PM

You do know FRAM is a subsidiary of Champion Labs...

Posted by: 914xr75 Sep 21 2020, 07:12 PM

Thank you for posting this. Fram was my brand. One time I got a promotion where I purchased 5 quarts of oil and got a free Wix filter. I almost threw it away cuz I thought it was garbage compared to my Fram.

Posted by: fixer34 Sep 22 2020, 04:26 PM

That's the style FRAM I just replaced. Orange with black coating. Sure makes getting it off easier though. Yea, I thought the same thing, major brand name, see them advertised in racing a lot, has to be good, right?

Posted by: 914Sixer Sep 22 2020, 05:55 PM

Did a little cross reference work at NAPA site.

NAPA gold -4 filter FIL 1521 $10.99
NAPA gold -6 filter FIL 1515 $8.29
Not sure why the -6 is cheaper, go figure. Specs on both the filters are the exact same except the -6 is longer. Going with the -6 Platinum FIL 411515 (11.99) for my 2056. Local store pick up, NO shipping stupidity.