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Posted by: burlybryan Nov 15 2020, 06:02 PM

I'm working on a 2.0 that has a couple cruddy tins - the rear engine cover plate (at trans) has a tear and my right side tin has been butchered for AC. I have a parts car 1.7 and my current in-car 1.8 (with refinished tins). I've read that I can cut the spot welds at the front portion of the right side tin and graft in one from a 1.7 or 1.8. Is this correct? Is the rear engine cover plate uniform across engines?

Thanks.

Posted by: Superhawk996 Nov 16 2020, 07:48 AM

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I'm working on a 2.0 that has a couple cruddy tins - the rear engine cover plate (at trans) has a tear and my right side tin has been butchered for AC. I have a parts car 1.7 and my current in-car 1.8 (with refinished tins). I've read that I can cut the spot welds at the front portion of the right side tin and graft in one from a 1.7 or 1.8. Is this correct? Is the rear engine cover plate uniform across engines?

Thanks.


Tins can be fixed. 2.0L has differnt locations for spark plugs due to unique heads on 2.0L.


I have been reparing them by fabrication from scratch to fix the AC butchery. If you have old 1.7/1.8L tin you could also do as you've stated to create a hybrid. Note in photo that you probably only need the front right corner which is a seperate section that could have spot welds drilled and salvaged. Rear tin does have some minor variations that I've seen in hole locations but is interchangeable.


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Here's is the one that was repaired after powder coat. Weld only slightly visible but will be nearly impossible to see as installed in car.

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I'm currently working on repairing a set as a side project for another member. Definately do-able. Don't toss 2.0L tin! For some reason 2.0L tin seem to be hacked by AC more often than the more prevalent 1.7L/1.8L trim. Maybe higher end cars got more dealer AC installs.

Posted by: Olympic 914 Nov 16 2020, 08:28 AM

I modified my original 1.7 tins to work with the plug position on the 2.0 heads I installed.

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Posted by: dlee6204 Nov 16 2020, 08:49 AM

Early 1.7L cars also had different tins. There's extra holes/provisions near the back for the pre-heater setup.

Posted by: burlybryan Nov 16 2020, 09:34 AM

Thanks guys. I'll plan on swapping over the right front corner from my 1.7 tin.

Posted by: TX914 Nov 19 2020, 02:47 PM

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=22428 That is fantastic. My car had a/c but they cut the shelf rather than the tin. I made a temporary patch out (with channel) until I'm in a position to replace the shelf. I'm very familiar with that edge of the engine tin! smile.gif

Posted by: Superhawk996 Nov 19 2020, 03:46 PM

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@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=22428 That is fantastic. My car had a/c but they cut the shelf rather than the tin. I made a temporary patch out (with channel) until I'm in a position to replace the shelf. I'm very familiar with that edge of the engine tin! smile.gif


headbang.gif They did the same thing to my car. Both self and tin were cut. Idiots! chair.gif

In my case the whole right side long inclusive of the element up into the engine bay were replaced due to rust. I'm replacing the whole shelf with the RD sheetmetal as part of that project to repair the Shark Bite chunk the idiots at the dealership sawed out!

Posted by: TX914 Nov 19 2020, 06:33 PM

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I'm replacing the whole shelf with the RD sheetmetal as part of that project to repair the Shark Bite chunk the idiots at the dealership sawed out!

I will also replace the cut shelf with the RD piece. Meantime the patch (2x8”) came out well and will keep dirt out of the engine bay.

Posted by: Superhawk996 Nov 19 2020, 07:35 PM

QUOTE(TX914 @ Nov 19 2020, 07:33 PM) *

QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ Nov 19 2020, 04:46 PM) *

I'm replacing the whole shelf with the RD sheetmetal as part of that project to repair the Shark Bite chunk the idiots at the dealership sawed out!

I will also replace the cut shelf with the RD piece. Meantime the patch (2x8”) came out well and will keep dirt out of the engine bay.


More importantly it keeps hot air from below the engine from being recirculated back into the fan inlet.

Not a fan of AC conversions mad.gif Other than the couple guys that have put the compressor up above the engine and to them I say cheer.gif

Posted by: TX914 Nov 19 2020, 07:50 PM

Hard to believe the dealer hacked the sheet metal like that but I guess there was no other way to get the compressor mounted back then. I understand nowadays a compressor is much smaller and no cutting would be necessary. Still, for me it was too much clutter and drag on a 100hp engine and with all the black it could barely keep up. But I do remember summer days on a road trip when that a/c was nice. smile.gif

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