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Posted by: dlindzey Dec 10 2020, 07:45 PM

looked at a 1.7 the other day
engine rebuilt in 2016 less than 30k miles, fancy pistons seemed like legit job, compressions between 140-150 all cylinders no leak down numbers

2018 or so got rid of the fuel injection system which had recently been rebuilt anyway and went to single carb

since then little issues and tune ups, last shop records this year complained about knocks at start up and variable idle often fast for no reason

i saw the car and drove it not knowing the above and the engine knocking is obvious even to someone of my mechanical inclination, the idle was too fast as well and the fuel pump was loud

would anyone pay top dollar for a car that knocks before you even get it home or is usually a minor thing a decent mechanic can fix--prior shop took a run at it before owner bailed on the car that he had already pumped at least 15k into.

so what is the collective wisdom-car looks good but sounds bad

Posted by: yellowporky Dec 10 2020, 08:28 PM

a knock is not good. factor in $8k for a shop to rebuild the motor and if it still makes sense then you should have a solid known car to enjoy.
And put the fuel injection back on

Posted by: Spoke Dec 10 2020, 09:18 PM

Are you looking for a project car to work on or do you want to drive it? For me the rule of thumb is you may not find the car you're looking for locally. I live in PA and found my 914 in Connecticut and my 930 in Denver, CO. Both were worth the trips and auto shipping.

Posted by: KSCarrera Dec 11 2020, 03:11 AM

You say 'fancy pistons' – what do you mean by that? Was it rebuilt with, for example, forged JE pistons, or similar? If so, they have zero-offset wrist pins, which means the piston can rock in the bore when cold, resulting in a slightly alarming 'knock' at start up and idle for the first minutes of running until things get warm. It's a characteristic, not a fault.

If the knock is constant, especially under load, then that's a whole different ballgame...

Posted by: 930cabman Dec 11 2020, 05:59 AM

QUOTE(yellowporky @ Dec 10 2020, 09:28 PM)

Posted by: iankarr Dec 11 2020, 06:54 AM

Knocking / pinging under load is a timing thing that’s easily solved. “Ticking / tapping” sound is probably valves that just need adjustment...or hydraulic lifters needing to fill with oil. Does the noise get better/worse after 10 minutes of driving? Banging noises as if something is hitting something inside the engine which don’t improve are probably more serious.

Regardless, single carb setups are not good. The atomized fuel has too long a path through the runners to work optimally. There could be vacuum leaks causing the inconsistent idle. Please post a clip of the knocking sound and I’m sure the engine gurus here can tell you more...

Posted by: Superhawk996 Dec 11 2020, 07:26 AM

Probably nothing to worry about (Sarcasm Alert)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LONT1oboJrs