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Posted by: mb911 Jan 9 2021, 09:41 AM
I just couldn't pass it up. Needs a new hood, engine wiring, airbox,engine fuel lines but it was so nice and so cheap I will collect parts this summer for next winter project its an 89s4
Posted by: jesse7flying Jan 9 2021, 09:45 AM
Nice score. I recently bought an 85 32V 928 and been busy going through its myriad problems. Just one more reason my 914 project is going no where fast. Oh well.
Posted by: mb911 Jan 9 2021, 09:48 AM
You wouldn't believe how cheap it was and full documentation but bad because of the small engine (wiring) fire.. now have to fix a bunch of stuff. Gotta look for a 928 dismantler..
Posted by: Superhawk996 Jan 9 2021, 10:24 AM
Gotta love how all the Porsche variants go through the life cycle.
New - often bought by those that don't understand the marque but want the brand image & lifestyle associated even though they know or care little about Porsche or it's history.
Slightly used but highly desired, still well maintained
Moderately used and no longer maintained. Proper maintenance and repair are viewed and ridiciously priced and not worth the cost. Non-essential repairs get deferred.
Heavily used & subsequntly purchaed by broke people that want to look well to do. But, they have no way to catch up on all the deferred maintenace and mounting issues and the cars spiral downward. Usually the For Sale ad says "ran when last parked".
Cast off with the type of issues you just found or way worse.
Finally & most importantly, brought back to life by those that appreciate them.
Luckily this one found the right guy that can help bring it back! Nice Score. I've always had a soft spot for the 928 S4's even though they aren't properly air cooled. 
Posted by: FRUNKenstein Jan 9 2021, 10:37 AM
Welcome to the 928 madness. I was just discussing the 928 market with a buddy at our weekly Porsche club breakfast this morning as he is interested in buying one. That’s a beautiful car and congratulations on the purchase.
The car itself is very robust. The Achilles heel has always been electrical problems. Go invest in some Deoxit stock now. You have a great deal of work ahead of you to rework the wiring harness due to the engine fire - that’s why it was bargain priced.
You cannot pay someone to do the work as it would kill you financially. But, there is a very robust support network of forums and parts suppliers. So, you can certainly DIY the repairs in a cost-effective manner.
My recommendation is to decide right now what your goal is for the car: get it running and enjoy it as a driver or completely rehab the car. It is very, very common in the 928 community for someone to buy a car that needs work, and then once they start repairs, they decide that they should do this other repair. And then rehab this other thing. And that leads to the next project, and the next. 5 years and tens of thousands of dollars later, the car is still sitting in the garage in pieces.
So, be forewarned - there is ALWAYS something else to re-work. You just have to determine your goals with the car as they will eat you alive if you aren’t careful.
Here’s a pic of mine. It’s in nice original condition, but certainly has its warts. 
Posted by: dt4 Jan 9 2021, 11:35 AM
I'd love one, I'm looking for one over here in the uk
Posted by: ddire333 Jan 9 2021, 12:34 PM
Enjoy the project, S4 is best buy in my view. like you pick up one that had had small engine fire but, and plenty of missed maintenance - cheep, but it has turned out great and i'm looking forward to have to opposite ends of the porsche family to drive.[attachmentid=775877] [attachmentid=775877]
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Posted by: doug_b_928 Jan 9 2021, 02:17 PM
Contratulations! 928s are terrific cars. Bonus that you got binders of FWSMs with the car. I look forward to watching your build thread once it begins.
Posted by: Jett Jan 9 2021, 02:20 PM
Gotta love how all the Porsche variants go through the life cycle.New - often bought by those that don't understand the marque but want the brand image & lifestyle associated even though they know or care little about Porsche or it's history.
Slightly used but highly desired, still well maintained
Moderately used and no longer maintained. Proper maintenance and repair are viewed and ridiciously priced and not worth the cost. Non-essential repairs get deferred.
Heavily used & subsequntly purchaed by broke people that want to look well to do. But, they have no way to catch up on all the deferred maintenace and mounting issues and the cars spiral downward. Usually the For Sale ad says "ran when last parked".
Cast off with the type of issues you just found or way worse.
Finally & most importantly, brought back to life by those that appreciate them.
Luckily this one found the right guy that can help bring it back! Nice Score. I've always had a soft spot for the 928 S4's even though they aren't properly air cooled.
Congratulations! Enjoy!
Lol first car I bought off eBay was a 79 928 5spd, original paint, but unloved from a maintenance perspective for more than 20 years. After 18 months and 2X the selling price she is a beauty and one of the nicest cars to drive. We have no idea why it appealed to us but we love it.
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Posted by: mb911 Jan 9 2021, 02:29 PM
The amount of money that was spent on this car from motorsports exhaust, chip, to stuff as simple as paint corrections are amazing. It sold on hagerty(didn't realize they had a for sale section in 2014 for $25,000 and that was before they were really gaining value. Now to find the parts.. if anyone looks at my build thread for the 914 knows I will find a way.. just will take a while.. ultimately will likely end up for sale.. I think 
but my kids and I will enjoy the project and the rewards
Posted by: MM1 Jan 9 2021, 02:53 PM
Congrats, Ben - keep us posted!
Posted by: T.Rick6 Jan 9 2021, 03:02 PM
Hey Ben, I know a good Porsche dismantler that has a few 928's; call Joe Cogbill at CogsCogs.com , he's in North Ga. I could go up and pull what you need. Todd 
Posted by: mb911 Jan 9 2021, 03:16 PM
Hey Ben, I know a good Porsche dismantler that has a few 928's; call Joe Cogbill at CogsCogs.com , he's in North Ga. I could go up and pull what you need. Todd
Todd that would be awesome.. I need to get the thing in inside storage asap then start the parts list.. on the short list is a hood, engine wiring harness, air filter assembly, cooling fan , maybe injector harness.. that gets me pretty far. I feel like I have talked to him in the past
Posted by: T.Rick6 Jan 9 2021, 03:34 PM
Hey Ben, I know a good Porsche dismantler that has a few 928's; call Joe Cogbill at CogsCogs.com , he's in North Ga. I could go up and pull what you need. Todd
Todd that would be awesome.. I need to get the thing in inside storage asap then start the parts list.. on the short list is a hood, engine wiring harness, air filter assembly, cooling fan , maybe injector harness.. that gets me pretty far. I feel like I have talked to him in the past
He's an old school 356 racer that builds some awesome trans., he's pretty cool, give him a call, I'll go up next weekend if it's not raining and get what you need. Todd
Posted by: 76-914 Jan 9 2021, 10:16 PM
Can't blame you. That's a good looking car.
Posted by: krazykonrad Jan 9 2021, 10:19 PM
That is a great new ride. The shop manuals are also a huge score. A 928 motor in a 914 would be a real next-level V-8 swap. Best of luck with it!
Konrad
Posted by: Bucci Jan 9 2021, 10:30 PM
Call up Mark Anderson. He’s a POC club racer from way back. He always had fast track cars.
http://928intl.com/repair.htm[code]
Hey Ben, I know a good Porsche dismantler that has a few 928's; call Joe Cogbill at CogsCogs.com , he's in North Ga. I could go up and pull what you need. Todd
Todd that would be awesome.. I need to get the thing in inside storage asap then start the parts list.. on the short list is a hood, engine wiring harness, air filter assembly, cooling fan , maybe injector harness.. that gets me pretty far. I feel like I have talked to him in the past
Posted by: mbseto Jan 9 2021, 11:13 PM
Always loved the 928s. Seems like there are tons of deals out there now. It's very tempting but can't afford to lose focus on my current project.
Posted by: rick 918-S Jan 10 2021, 06:56 AM
I second Mark Anderson @ 928 international.
928s are notorious for wiring issues and often end up with hacked repairs by guys that can't read a flow diagram. do not neglect the belt replacement schedule. And don't put a Chevy engine in it.
Posted by: mb911 Jan 10 2021, 07:52 AM
Thanks everyone.. so on the short list will be
Engine wiring harness
Injector harness (likely)
Air filter assembly
Oil fill assembly
Water pump
Timing belts
Fan assembly
Fuel lines
Hood
I see new harnesses are like 4k but there has to be some alternatives at the very least I could rebuild a used one or talk @ironhillsrestorations build me one.
The receipts are incredible. It has around 50 receipts since new.
Posted by: KSCarrera Jan 10 2021, 09:18 AM
That is a great new ride. The shop manuals are also a huge score. A 928 motor in a 914 would be a real next-level V-8 swap. Best of luck with it!
Konrad
Your wish is...
As seen at the 2019 Retro Classics show in Stuttgart:
Posted by: 914-300Hemi Jan 10 2021, 10:06 AM
Congrats on the purchase and good luck with the build.
Posted by: jim912928 Jan 10 2021, 12:22 PM
Yes to 928 International....they are great. I’ve seen a few 928 parts cars on Chicago Craigslist. Here is one in Lake Bluff for 500 bucks...
https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/pts/d/lake-bluff-porsche-928-for-parts/7257995909.html
Not and S4 but many interchangeable parts like hoods!
Jim
p.s......my shark:
Posted by: mlindner Jan 10 2021, 02:13 PM
And Ben, if you want to go fast talk to Kim Crumb 928 expert. Great guy and a super fast driver. I walked the track with him at Mont-Tremblant PCA parade in I think 1999 and also great time on the track his 928 against my 993 Carrara S....he won. great memories.
Posted by: mepstein Jan 10 2021, 02:47 PM
S4’s are bringing good money and keep going up. I bet it will be very nice when you are finished rebuilding the engine area.
Back in the 80’s, my girlfriends dad took me for a ride in his new 928. He opened it up on a farm road and we were going 120 but it felt like 50. Completely opposite of my rusty 914.
Posted by: burton73 Jan 10 2021, 03:15 PM
Ben,
Enjoy the 928. My Wrench in Anaheim, Greg Brown ( Precision Motorworks)
714 -8799072 who is really the Guru on 928s on the West Coast, says that most good used 928 are $15,000 away from being a nice car. I got my 86.5 928 from Maryland with 44,000 miles with all docks from day one with the help of a couple of great 914 Brothers
Bob B 
Posted by: rick 918-S Jan 10 2021, 08:48 PM
Duckduckgo for 928otorsports. I was in his shop and he had a board for making new harnesses.
Posted by: mb911 Jan 11 2021, 07:08 AM
Duckduckgo for 928otorsports. I was in his shop and he had a board for making new harnesses.
He advertised them at 3k for an injector harness.. that is more then I paid for the car. I am going to try to find something used first
Posted by: Root_Werks Jan 11 2021, 11:20 AM
Nice score Ben! There are some good deals to be had on 928's. I had an 81' about 18 years ago. Risky Biz color.
Posted by: rick 918-S Jan 12 2021, 07:00 AM
That is a great new ride. The shop manuals are also a huge score. A 928 motor in a 914 would be a real next-level V-8 swap. Best of luck with it!
Konrad
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=7725&hl=
There are two other cars across the pond and one done on California that at last check resides out east someplace.
Posted by: flipb Jan 12 2021, 12:28 PM
Strange, I'm not familiar with the 826.
Posted by: Unobtanium-inc Jan 12 2021, 02:33 PM
Duckduckgo for 928otorsports. I was in his shop and he had a board for making new harnesses.
He advertised them at 3k for an injector harness.. that is more then I paid for the car. I am going to try to find something used first
That's what I've always been told is the achilles heel of the 928, the wiring. I had a mechanic tell me one time the level of wiring is equivalent to a Lear Jet. It can be sorted, with patience and time. They are very cool cars, worth the work. And you can always live out your risky business dreams, or Tony Montana, lots of movie work, the 928.
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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Jan 12 2021, 04:32 PM
Mark Anderson over at 928 International will be a good parts resource for your Resto !
Posted by: mb911 Jan 12 2021, 04:47 PM
Mark Anderson over at 928 International will be a good parts resource for your Resto !
And it looks like he is an hour and a half away from me.
Posted by: mb911 Jan 12 2021, 04:51 PM
Take that back looks like I was think 928 motorsports which is close by
Posted by: mlindner Jan 12 2021, 05:04 PM
I like 826.....eight cylinders, two door and six speed may be...works for me. Have fun Ben. Mark
Posted by: Mueller Jan 12 2021, 05:05 PM
Great looking car Ben.
I have never owned a 928 (besides scale models), I have however owned a 928 engine. I think it was an early 80's model nothing special.
Paid a few hundred for it, then it sat in a storage unit that I must have sunk another few hundred into. I finally sold it at an Automotion swap meet for $100 or so.
I didn't even know what a 914 was at time so no thoughts of swaps.
Posted by: JeffBowlsby Jan 12 2021, 05:17 PM
Welcome to the Sharkfest. A bunch of us 914+928 owners here, lots in common.
I went simple, got an early OB, much less complicated than the later years, easier to maintain.
1981 with AT, <40K miles, I could not pass it up. Original paint, full leather interior, well maintained and not expensive.
A fun car, but if you are taller than about 5-10, hold out for a non-sunroof model.
Mark Anderson/928 International is the go to for used and new parts, there are others too.
Good luck with those harnesses they are spendy if you can even locate them, as are most 928 parts. Some of the later models have two ECUs for the fuel injection. 
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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Jan 12 2021, 07:32 PM
Take that back looks like I was think 928 motorsports which is close by
No worries Ben,
Captain Carl in Neenah Wi. is a 928 (Motorsports) wizard as well; mostly new OE parts, and Carl's innovative 928 goodies !
Posted by: racerbvd Jan 12 2021, 07:50 PM
Posted by: Amphicar770 Jan 12 2021, 10:26 PM
Just a few years ago you could buy really nice ones for teener money.
I've always wanted one but they do scare me. Definitely orders of magnitude more complex than the 914.
At the time I was seriously considering buying one I would follow the 928 forums. It was not uncommon to hear people boasting about how they completed a 300 mile trip without a breakdown. If that is their definition of reliability I figured these could be a never ending money pit.
But yes, they look great.
Posted by: Maltese Falcon Jan 12 2021, 11:07 PM
...and you can't turbo a 928 ¡
From an early '80s "VW & Porsche" article on our boosted 928 systems.
Posted by: Tdskip Jan 13 2021, 04:17 PM
Congratulations Ben, these are great cars. I have an ‘84 with ‘88 engine and front suspension and it is flipping awesome.
These are capable of intergalactic miles if properly cared (which isn’t really that difficult since build quality is outstanding).
Posted by: mb911 Jan 21 2021, 05:47 PM
Rented a storage spot and ordered a hood, wiring harness, fan assembly, airfilter from Mark Anderson. He was great to deal with and good prices. The pictures look worse then it is.. though it's not a quick fix it is fixable 
Posted by: mb911 Jan 21 2021, 05:47 PM
Posted by: Superhawk996 Jan 21 2021, 06:06 PM
Posted by: mb911 Jan 21 2021, 07:21 PM
And some replacement harnesses.. I need to check them out and repair as needed but nice to be all set.. I think I might need another harness yet but close. 
Posted by: ddire333 Jan 22 2021, 11:12 AM
And some replacement harnesses.. I need to check them out and repair as needed but nice to be all set.. I think I might need another harness yet but close.
That is much worse than mine was, but all do able. Looks like it might have been the main positive lead to the charging post that caused it, its not fused and can contact the frame, (the protective sleeve cracks) you get alot of heat fast, and return fuel line is right beside. common enough cause on 928's
Posted by: mb911 Jan 22 2021, 12:23 PM
And some replacement harnesses.. I need to check them out and repair as needed but nice to be all set.. I think I might need another harness yet but close.
That is much worse than mine was, but all do able. Looks like it might have been the main positive lead to the charging post that caused it, its not fused and can contact the frame, (the protective sleeve cracks) you get alot of heat fast, and return fuel line is right beside. common enough cause on 928's
Likely for sure.. I need to make sure I have all the harnesses I need. Going to make sure the ones going in are in good condition and repair what needs to be done.. I can't wait for spring to at least wash off all the nasty fire damage.
Posted by: mb911 Jan 22 2021, 12:24 PM
Oh and I am the king of doable lol
Posted by: Tdskip Jan 22 2021, 12:27 PM
Oh my
Posted by: bretth Jan 22 2021, 12:35 PM
Awesome looks like fun. A few years back someone was selling a mid 80s 928 near me for something like $750 because the car dumped fuel into exhaust, backfired and melted the taillight on the drivers side. Scared the owner so he just wanted it gone. I wish I had jumped on that one the car was very clean.
Posted by: mb911 Jan 22 2021, 12:35 PM
Oh my
It will be all good.. this is nothing to me.
Posted by: mb911 Jan 22 2021, 01:12 PM
Its pretty amazing that this car is very plug and play.. unplug the old harness, plug the new one in, new fuel lines and paint the hood and fender and all don't. I will have about 5k total in this car finished and it is so nice it will easily be worth 5 times that.
Posted by: mb911 Oct 16 2021, 07:54 AM
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Posted by: mb911 Oct 16 2021, 08:01 AM
I have found a few sources. The most responsive has been 928rus. 928 international has been helpful as well. I did have to buy a new radiator because the side tank melted from the fire just enough to cause a pin hole. Doing the water pump, timing belt and the porken tensioner this weekend. Sent the ECUs out for testing. I bought the 10bar fuel injection hose to rebuild the fuel lines from 928 Motorsports and use the oetikar (spelling?) Clamps. Last big purchase is injectors as I have 7 that could be cleaned but missing an 8th so I see that a bunch of people went with the 5.0 Motorsports Ford injectors. Not sure on a solution for that yet.
Cost wise I would say the parts market is on par with 914-6 parts. The radiator and fuel injectors will push the project into 6k but still a good value.
Posted by: Mayne Oct 16 2021, 08:20 AM
Looking much better! One thing I can say about old Porsches is they want to run.
Posted by: Tdskip Oct 16 2021, 09:08 AM
Those Ford injectors are a good option if Budget is driving the selection process, I don’t mean that to suggest that they’re not a viable option. I put those in my 84 when it had its original engine and they worked fine.
Press on Ben, these are extremely satisfying cars to own once they’re sorted.
Posted by: mb911 Oct 16 2021, 09:34 AM
Those Ford injectors are a good option if Budget is driving the selection process, I don’t mean that to suggest that they’re not a viable option. I put those in my 84 when it had its original engine and they worked fine.
Press on Ben, these are extremely satisfying cars to own once they’re sorted.
They are actually fairly expensive @500 for a set of 8 which I was surprised.
Posted by: Superhawk996 Oct 16 2021, 01:09 PM
Coming along.
What did you do with the castings? Vapor blast? Look nice.
Posted by: Tdskip Oct 16 2021, 04:46 PM
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=9892 - please be extremely careful with making sure the intake had absolutely no left over blasting media. I’ve seen that destroy and engine and shop like agree Brown’s won’t work on cars with sandblasted intakes since some material comes loose.
Posted by: mb911 Oct 17 2021, 05:14 AM
Coming along.
What did you do with the castings? Vapor blast? Look nice.
Had to use coal Slag.
Posted by: cgnj Oct 18 2021, 10:39 AM
It seems that quite a few of us jump back and forth from the 914 to 928 rabbit hole. I own 2 86.5 with 5 speeds, one with dual zone ac.& parted an 84 auto.
My observations.
914's have a more eclectic community, much better parts availability, cheaper to noodle around with, & more smiles to the mile.
I have a small 928 parts stash + an S4 motor. I may be able to hook you up for parts. I will also post a link to download the factory manual if anyone is interested.
Posted by: mb911 Oct 18 2021, 04:20 PM
It seems that quite a few of us jump back and forth from the 914 to 928 rabbit hole. I own 2 86.5 with 5 speeds, one with dual zone ac.& parted an 84 auto.
My observations.
914's have a more eclectic community, much better parts availability, cheaper to noodle around with, & more smiles to the mile.
I have a small 928 parts stash + an S4 motor. I may be able to hook you up for parts. I will also post a link to download the factory manual if anyone is interested.
Let me know what you have for s4 parts. Fuel injectors are my last big pieces I need. Had to buy a new radiator ugh that was not expected.. I do have factory manuals, every receipt since new, and all the service manuals. Thinking it will fire up Christmas time.
Posted by: Front yard mechanic Oct 18 2021, 05:58 PM
There's a 928 engine that looks complete for free on Craigslist in Albuquerque sorry don't have the link but let me know if you score it I'll pick it up for you
Posted by: mb911 Oct 18 2021, 07:14 PM
There's a 928 engine that looks complete for free on Craigslist in Albuquerque sorry don't have the link but let me know if you score it I'll pick it up for you
Just looked. Unfortunately can't use anything from that one. That's a 16v cis engine. I have a 32v efi engine. Thanks though
Posted by: Justinp71 Oct 20 2021, 09:31 AM
Nice find! Those cars are cool and will always be a collectable of sorts.
Posted by: mb911 Oct 26 2021, 04:52 AM
Making headway. 
Posted by: Tdskip Oct 26 2021, 07:23 AM
Very tidy
Posted by: ddire333 Oct 26 2021, 08:28 AM
Just pick a day your feeling very patient to assemble the ICV and hoses underneath the intake, its a bugger to say the least. Found it best to get a spacers of some sort to keep the intake just a bit above its normal resting point, tilting up where needed to reach under and make the last couple of hose and electrical connections.
Posted by: mb911 Oct 26 2021, 09:58 AM
Well I have all winter. Still the last big purchase is Injectors. Just did the math and with prices going up this car finished will be @8500 total investment.
Posted by: Tdskip Oct 26 2021, 10:07 AM
Which will be absolutely worth it once you can get some miles on it, these are super satisfying cars to own and use.
Posted by: ddire333 Oct 26 2021, 10:38 AM
Well I have all winter. Still the last big purchase is Injectors. Just did the math and with prices going up this car finished will be @8500 total investment.
i used these - Bosch 0280155884 Fuel Injector working perfect in 88 s4, worked out more cost effective than other options as its more common injector
Be wary of the seals, the ones for the 32v are 928 only item
Posted by: mb911 Oct 26 2021, 12:15 PM
These?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/UPGRADE-Set-of-8-NEW-Bosch-Gen-III-OEM-Fuel-Injectors-0280155884-Add-HP-Torque-/253161721606?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0
Posted by: ddire333 Oct 26 2021, 03:07 PM
These?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/UPGRADE-Set-of-8-NEW-Bosch-Gen-III-OEM-Fuel-Injectors-0280155884-Add-HP-Torque-/253161721606?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0
Yep same ones, just be sure they are not clones, the listing says they are 100% genuine but there are a lot of copies on the market, read this thread
https://rennlist.com/forums/928-forum/1182302-solved-rough-running-after-installing-new-bargain-injectors-2.html
Posted by: mb911 Nov 11 2021, 06:22 AM
Gonna wait until black Friday and hopefully find a deal on injectors. Car is still making progress.
Posted by: mb911 Jan 6 2022, 04:38 PM
Headway. Man there is alot of connections on this.
Posted by: mepstein Jan 6 2022, 05:34 PM
Needs twin turbos. 
Posted by: rhodyguy Jan 6 2022, 06:53 PM
There a lot of everything in that engine bay. I couldn't keep track of it.
Posted by: Tdskip Jan 6 2022, 07:24 PM
S4 and later 928’s are pretty complicated beasts but everything‘s there for a reason and if you take your time to trace stuff it actually isn’t that bad.
Good progress Ben!
Posted by: mb911 Jan 6 2022, 07:51 PM
S4 and later 928’s are pretty complicated beasts but everything‘s there for a reason and if you take your time to trace stuff it actually isn’t that bad.
Good progress Ben!
My biggest issue was there was nothing for me to trace so it was all guess work and pictures online.
Posted by: mb911 Feb 26 2022, 04:00 PM
Big progress. I have everything buttoned up except the new FPR and the dampers. Waiting for a nicer day to allow the garage doors to be open for venting. Still need to figure out the fuel pump but I spent a bunch of time on just finishing up odds and ends.. I think I might have a leak at the water bridge which sucks but I did miss one coolant connection initially so it maybe residual. If I need to put a new o ring in the bridge what am I looking at for taking that apart? Is that intake off or?
Posted by: mb911 Feb 26 2022, 04:00 PM
Posted by: ddire333 Feb 27 2022, 06:23 AM
nice work, looks great, water bridge can be done with intake in place, but I wouldn't recommend if you have not had those bolts out before, access is very poor and they tend to seize in the block, so need careful / not angled removal / heat etc.
once you have done putting the intake back 2-3 times it gets easy 
Posted by: mb911 Mar 6 2022, 03:35 PM
Well the Water bridge turns out was not leaking. I have the TPS and the CPS plugs Swapped but now with it correct it runs pretty darn well. Stay tuned for more updates. It super quiet which I don't think I like on this car.
Posted by: mepstein Mar 6 2022, 04:36 PM
Well the Water bridge turns out was not leaking. I have the TPS and the CPS plugs Swapped but now with it correct it runs pretty darn well. Stay tuned for more updates. It super quiet which I don't think I like on this car.
Sounds like a minnow?
Posted by: Maltese Falcon Mar 6 2022, 10:50 PM
A pair of these will definitely wake up some horses + make some nice tunes!
Posted by: ddire333 Mar 7 2022, 06:27 AM
.... yep they where of a time when quite was better, xpipe and rear muffler delete are popular mods which are less of a commitment than headers
Posted by: Maltese Falcon Mar 7 2022, 01:20 PM
...if power is needed= exhaust scavenging; just after a change in sound= muffler change
Volume Up for some decent v8 tunes 
https://www.instagram.com/p/BNssLwfAs5w/?utm_medium=copy_link
Posted by: rick 918-S Mar 7 2022, 09:53 PM
This would probably sound better with a set of Marty's headers but it is definately NOT a Chevy! The tone from the throttle body is awsome when it blips open.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRf69SC1EQ0
Those headers would probably work on the Alien the way they are pointed in at each other... 
Posted by: Jett Mar 7 2022, 10:24 PM
Love to find more HP out of our 79 928... we have a Borla muffler but everything else is stock.
Here is a another Chevy 
with a much milder Lingenfelter C7, hooker headers, Borla mufflers to quiet it down.
https://attachment.broadly.com/11f714f750f84b349a0c09314641cef1_original.mp4
Posted by: rick 918-S Mar 7 2022, 10:36 PM
Love to find more HP out of our 79 928... we have a Borla muffler but everything else is stock.
Here is a another Chevy with a much milder Lingenfelter C7, hooker headers, Borla mufflers to quiet it down.
https://attachment.broadly.com/11f714f750f84b349a0c09314641cef1_original.mp4
4.5 or 4.7? get a 5.0 short block cut the pistons for 16 valve heads and get euro heads, cams and intake. That combo make 350+ hp from the stock 218 in the US version. Not a chevy.
Posted by: mb911 Mar 8 2022, 06:29 AM
I am thinking of removing the high flow cats the PO put on and remove the rear muffler.
Posted by: Jett Mar 8 2022, 09:53 AM
I am thinking of removing the high flow cats the PO put on and remove the rear muffler.
Let me know how it performs and sounds
Posted by: mb911 Mar 8 2022, 04:42 PM
I am thinking of removing the high flow cats the PO put on and remove the rear muffler.
Let me know how it performs and sounds
Ok gotta get some other things dialed in 1st then yes.. That will be part of wrap up projects.
Posted by: mb911 Mar 8 2022, 05:56 PM
I am thinking of removing the high flow cats the PO put on and remove the rear muffler.
Let me know how it performs and sounds
Ok gotta get some other things dialed in 1st then yes.. That will be part of wrap up projects.
Posted by: mb911 Mar 16 2022, 05:34 AM
Well took it around the block this past weekend. Drove nice. Bad news is trans has a front seal leak.. ugh. Sounds like tranny out to fix that.
Posted by: mepstein Mar 16 2022, 08:58 AM
Isn’t that the way 928’s work? Fix one thing, another breaks.
My dad had a Jag in the 70’s so I’ve seen the the revolving door of repairs. 
Posted by: Tdskip Mar 16 2022, 02:12 PM
Isn’t that the way 928’s work? Fix one thing, another breaks.
Not my experience unless the car was severely neglected. These are extremely well built, albeit slightly complicated, cars.
Posted by: mb911 Mar 16 2022, 02:32 PM
Isn’t that the way 928’s work? Fix one thing, another breaks.
Not my experience unless the car was severely neglected. These are extremely well built, albeit slightly complicated, cars.
I am hopeful.. I am not in a huge hurry to get rid of it. I want to fix everything and make it really nice and by then the market will be where I need it to be to make it all worth while. I have a great baseline.
Replaced the following to make sure all was good
FOE harness
Fuel injectors
Fuel injection harness
Water pump
Porken tensioner
Radiator
Timing belt
Knock sensors
All vacuum lines
Temp 1 sensor
Temp 2 sensor
MAF
Both ECUS tested
Flappy rebuilt
Throttle cables
Bowden cables
Hall sensor
TPS
Fuel lines
Dampers
FPR
Radiator fan switch
Front chassis harness.
There is not much left that isn't new.
Posted by: burton73 Mar 18 2022, 10:41 AM
Ben,
Motor mounts? I put new ones in my 86 with 44,000 miles
Bob B
Posted by: mb911 Mar 18 2022, 01:04 PM
Ben,
Motor mounts? I put new ones in my 86 with 44,000 miles
Bob B
Probably to come.. it still has a long list of small items
Posted by: porschetub Mar 18 2022, 01:36 PM
Isn’t that the way 928’s work? Fix one thing, another breaks.
Not my experience unless the car was severely neglected. These are extremely well built, albeit slightly complicated, cars.
and besides the jags were badly built and trouble some ,my father had XJ's the first one from new needed an engine rebuilt @ 30,000 miles.Posted by: mepstein Mar 18 2022, 01:54 PM
Isn’t that the way 928’s work? Fix one thing, another breaks.
Not my experience unless the car was severely neglected. These are extremely well built, albeit slightly complicated, cars.
and besides the jags were badly built and trouble some ,my father had XJ's the first one from new needed an engine rebuilt @ 30,000 miles.Someone's got to hassle Ben - LOL
My Dad's was an XJ12 coupe. Beautiful car when it ran but he had to own a second car because running was rare. He was a doctor and spent the money but it just never liked him enough to behave.
Posted by: mb911 May 4 2022, 12:25 PM
Made more progress. 
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Posted by: mb911 Jun 12 2022, 10:34 AM
Made progress. I am finding that owning multiple Porsches makes me anxious because there is always something to do. The 928 runs rreally well now. Needs the following to be completed.
Windshield
Driver bolster repaired
Passenger window switch
Trans removal and reseal
Probably rebuild torque tube as well
Final buff and it will be done.
I am on the fence though as all this inflation has me anxious as well.might sell it to the next person looking for a much smaller project than what I started with.
We will see. I just learned multiple cars can be overwhelming
Posted by: mb911 Jun 12 2022, 10:35 AM
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Posted by: mb911 Jul 16 2022, 04:22 PM
Well preparing to try sell it as an unfinished project. I need space back before winter. If you know anyone 9500 takes it. 
Posted by: mb911 Jul 16 2022, 04:23 PM
Posted by: mb911 Jul 16 2022, 04:24 PM
Posted by: mb911 Aug 27 2022, 08:22 AM
I now have this for sale. I have tons of documents. Engine was overhauled at 153000 miles which was done in 04 from what I see. The car has 156000 miles on it. It runs but needs the trans resealed.
Asking 18,500 for it.
Posted by: TINKERGINEERING Aug 30 2022, 01:07 PM
Enjoy the project, S4 is best buy in my view. like you pick up one that had had small engine fire but, and plenty of missed maintenance - cheep, but it has turned out great and i'm looking forward to have to opposite ends of the porsche family to drive.[attachmentid=775877] [attachmentid=775877]
wow that's the same car?? that's a lot of work. Wow!!
Posted by: mb911 Aug 30 2022, 05:14 PM
Enjoy the project, S4 is best buy in my view. like you pick up one that had had small engine fire but, and plenty of missed maintenance - cheep, but it has turned out great and i'm looking forward to have to opposite ends of the porsche family to drive.[attachmentid=775877] [attachmentid=775877]
wow that's the same car?? that's a lot of work. Wow!!
Yup same car. I have a bunch of interest so hopefully a new home shortly.
Posted by: DRPHIL914 Aug 31 2022, 11:59 AM
Made progress. I am finding that owning multiple Porsches makes me anxious because there is always something to do. The 928 runs rreally well now. Needs the following to be completed.
Windshield
Driver bolster repaired
Passenger window switch
Trans removal and reseal
Probably rebuild torque tube as well
Final buff and it will be done.
I am on the fence though as all this inflation has me anxious as well.might sell it to the next person looking for a much smaller project than what I started with.
We will see. I just learned multiple cars can be overwhelming
Oh, yea i know exactly how you feel. I don't have a car newer than 2007, and all but one are no less than 175k miles, so this year now i feel like i am running a auto repair business, i don't mind one or 2 projects but its been non-stop. I am still helping take care of and manage the major maintenance of my 2 oldest daughters cars too, and my wife's Navigator has 285,000 miles(2007) and she refuses to get rid of it.
I would love to have a shark, but i just cant have another project right now. for the first time ever i actually had the thought of selling the 914 and getting a less than 5y.o. Cayman( or atleast 2010 or newer). only way i keep it and 3 other 15-20 year old vehicles is if my wife agrees to getting a lift!!
GLWTS!!!!
Posted by: mb911 Aug 31 2022, 02:21 PM
The lift is the way to go. I find I get anxious about having all this stuff.
Posted by: mb911 Apr 23 2023, 05:39 PM
So I spent more time and money to complete this project. Almost all done. I posted it for sale. Fixed a few things today and ordering a few more new parts. Once this is gone it’s back onto the 914 and complete the fuel injection. Priced at 18,500 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/897667808231913/?mibextid=6ojiHh
Posted by: windforfun Apr 23 2023, 06:09 PM
My old mechanic Tony from Czechoslovakia would always smile when I'd bring my 914 in for service. He'd frown whenever a 928 came into his shop & refuse to work on it if it needed anything major. He'd say: "Those 928s are way to complicated to be reliable." Go figure. Even getting into the dashboard was a major PITA. I suppose the car was ahead of its time. So how come 914s are now going for more then 928s (generally speaking)?
Posted by: mb911 Apr 23 2023, 06:26 PM
My old mechanic Tony from Czechoslovakia would always smile when I'd bring my 914 in for service. He'd frown whenever a 928 came into his shop & refuse to work on it if it needed anything major. He'd say: "Those 928s are way to complicated to be reliable." Go figure. Even getting into the dashboard was a major PITA. I suppose the car was ahead of its time. So how come 914s are now going for more then 928s (generally speaking)?
Ironically I think the 928 is pretty easy to work on. Soooo much information out there and I never once said this is a PIA. The only thing I would say sucks you have to do ill the trans to pull the TT.
The 928 market has really improved on values. We will see big dollars for them in the near future. I bought a bigger newer boat so the 928 was /is the one to go
Posted by: Gatornapper Apr 24 2023, 05:47 AM
Ben -
So glad to hear you say this - as you've really been through your car in an incredible way.
About 1 1/2 hours driving my '81 5-spd Shark yesterday enjoying every inch - that's more than enjoying every mile BTW!
Maybe the most unique car I've ever driven, certainly the most unique I've ever owned.
Yesterday turned 1,000 miles that I've driven the car, and only issue was a dead seat motor (forward/backward) and switch that I rebuilt. This car is indeed well-sorted out as PO had said - needs nothing. Runs & drives like new. RickB and I both have truly thrashed it at times too.
My only concern has been what do I do if something breaks? I have a full shop, but boy is it tight in that engine bay! Your words are encouraging.
Now.....wondering where and at what cost I might find a full set of shop manuals????
Have you sold it yet?
GN
My old mechanic Tony from Czechoslovakia would always smile when I'd bring my 914 in for service. He'd frown whenever a 928 came into his shop & refuse to work on it if it needed anything major. He'd say: "Those 928s are way to complicated to be reliable." Go figure. Even getting into the dashboard was a major PITA. I suppose the car was ahead of its time. So how come 914s are now going for more then 928s (generally speaking)?
Ironically I think the 928 is pretty easy to work on. Soooo much information out there and I never once said this is a PIA. The only thing I would say sucks you have to do ill the trans to pull the TT.
The 928 market has really improved on values. We will see big dollars for them in the near future. I bought a bigger newer boat so the 928 was /is the one to go
Posted by: burton73 Apr 24 2023, 04:04 PM
Ben -
So glad to hear you say this - as you've really been through your car in an incredible way.
About 1 1/2 hours driving my '81 5-spd Shark yesterday enjoying every inch - that's more than enjoying every mile BTW!
Maybe the most unique car I've ever driven, certainly the most unique I've ever owned.
Yesterday turned 1,000 miles that I've driven the car, and only issue was a dead seat motor (forward/backward) and switch that I rebuilt. This car is indeed well-sorted out as PO had said - needs nothing. Runs & drives like new. RickB and I both have truly thrashed it at times too.
My only concern has been what do I do if something breaks? I have a full shop, but boy is it tight in that engine bay! Your words are encouraging.
Now.....wondering where and at what cost I might find a full set of shop manuals????
Have you sold it yet?
GN
My old mechanic Tony from Czechoslovakia would always smile when I'd bring my 914 in for service. He'd frown whenever a 928 came into his shop & refuse to work on it if it needed anything major. He'd say: "Those 928s are way to complicated to be reliable." Go figure. Even getting into the dashboard was a major PITA. I suppose the car was ahead of its time. So how come 914s are now going for more then 928s (generally speaking)?
Ironically I think the 928 is pretty easy to work on. Soooo much information out there and I never once said this is a PIA. The only thing I would say sucks you have to do ill the trans to pull the TT.
The 928 market has really improved on values. We will see big dollars for them in the near future. I bought a bigger newer boat so the 928 was /is the one to go
Now.....wondering where and at what cost I might find a full set of shop manuals????
Happy birthday to you. On line you can get free downloads of factory 928 SHOP MANUALS all of them. Just print out what you need
Bob B
Posted by: mb911 Apr 24 2023, 08:38 PM
Looks like my car is pending to a world member. Excited to get it to the next person.
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