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Posted by: CaptainCrunch Feb 20 2021, 02:51 PM

Hello 914World! I am a new member looking for a 914. I owned a 1975 2.0 and a 1970 914-6 back in the day. Prob. Can’t afford a 6, but am feeling the pull to get back into one. Watching sites for a while and am curious what you guys think of this car and dealer.


https://www.schmitt.com/inventory/1974-porsche-914-convertible/


Thanks for any thoughts you might have!

Posted by: KELTY360 Feb 20 2021, 03:17 PM

Looks too good to be true. Nice looking car but lots of little things drag it down. For that $$ I’d like more originality. Aftermarket front valance, aftermarket wheels (most likely - real Fuchs would not have black paint), fuel injection removed, battery hold down wrong. Aggressive use of armorall on the interior always makes me wonder why.
You can find a better car for the money if you’re patient. Put a WTB in the classifieds here and spend some time getting up to speed. Good luck.
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Posted by: framos914 Feb 20 2021, 03:29 PM

Very nice car, great color combination.
Wow! 36k?

Posted by: CaptainCrunch Feb 20 2021, 04:17 PM

QUOTE(KELTY360 @ Feb 20 2021, 03:17 PM) *

Looks too good to be true. Nice looking car but lots of little things drag it down. For that $$ I’d like more originality. Aftermarket front valance, aftermarket wheels (most likely - real Fuchs would not have black paint), fuel injection removed, battery hold down wrong. Aggressive use of armorall on the interior always makes me wonder why.
You can find a better car for the money if you’re patient. Put a WTB in the classifieds here and spend some time getting up to speed. Good luck.
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I am not all that handy at fixing stuff, so am looking for something with a lot of the work done. Your insights are helpful. Thanks

Posted by: SirAndy Feb 20 2021, 05:19 PM

QUOTE(KELTY360 @ Feb 20 2021, 01:17 PM) *
Nice looking car but lots of little things drag it down.

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I'm picking nits here, but the upside down drivers side front turn signal lens is indicative of the lack of detail that probably went into this car.

They did spent a lot of time dousing it in armor all though ...
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Posted by: Cairo94507 Feb 20 2021, 05:59 PM

Horrible quality (low resolution) pictures. Hard to make out details. But, if I saw the car in person, based upon its current configuration, I would be offering about $25K. The repaint looks like medium quality, the missing interior backed light, the missing FI, the painted wheels, the wrong front valance, the hood emblem, painted bumpers, badly aligned eyebrows, all factor into my decision. Oh, I do not believe that is a 26K mile car either. More like at least 126K miles or more.

All that aside, it is still a car worth buying, understanding it needs work. beerchug.gif

Posted by: championgt1 Feb 20 2021, 06:49 PM

KYB shocks. Looks like a lot of fresh black spray paint on the underside. 36k? av-943.gif

Posted by: 914Sixer Feb 20 2021, 07:09 PM

Not a car I would buy. Nice but I will try to be polite, lots of stuff wrong.

Posted by: rjames Feb 20 2021, 09:28 PM

I've seen very solid cars listed here for ~$15k-$20k that I'd buy before buying this one.

Posted by: Bleyseng Feb 21 2021, 10:45 AM

Why a engine rebuild if its only 27,000 miles??? Fuel injection missing! Its a $15k car

Posted by: CaptainCrunch Feb 21 2021, 11:47 AM

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Why a engine rebuild if its only 27,000 miles??? Fuel injection missing! Its a $15k car


I appreciate all the comments. Guess I will be patient and try to get more up to speed. Had my 914s in the 1980s and they were pretty new and bullet proof. Only thing broke was an accelerator cable on my ‘75 2.0.

Glad to have found this forum!

Posted by: JOEPROPER Feb 21 2021, 01:03 PM

Looks like you have a strong budget which will get you a really good car. I'd keep looking until the right one pops up. It will! Always does. Goodluck with your search! welcome.png

Posted by: rhodyguy Feb 21 2021, 01:05 PM

'RARE factory AC'. For $36k a interior light would be appropriate. Investment quality... first.gif

Posted by: wonkipop Feb 21 2021, 05:16 PM

missing interior light could cost $35K? blink.gif
has to be original to go with "highly original" car.

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car might be worth a look if you were close by and could personally put eyes on it.
not sure i would want to sit in it - end up with glass arse pants.

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mythical interior lights can be found in junk yards.
late beetle - exact same.
i scoured a rural junk yard here about 10-15 years back and found 2 and put them in the spares box. glad i did. very fragile items as plastic deplasticizes.
by now vw boys and girls might have picked junkyards everywhere all clean but.

Posted by: Rrrockhound Feb 21 2021, 05:51 PM

The body gap in front of the driver's door looks huge.

Posted by: burton73 Feb 21 2021, 05:57 PM

Spend some time looking on world so you know the points to look for. These cars have gone up a lot and while some people will not know just how much their car is worth on a given month and year the question is it worth it.

Right car with low mileage original with the fuel injection. I would rather have an original paint car so I can see just how that car really is because shiny paint can hide a lot.
We have seen some real crap over the years covered with bondo and shiny. As the guys have said. No interior light is no big deal. Now a better question would be ? and why is there a chrome button in center counsel and no Fuel Injection is a huge deal. The mileage is not real or if it is it has turned over one two or three times.

When you see all records from day one and proof of this mileage it is BS. Or seeing this car before the body work and paint. Plus, why would this car need a rebuild engine at such low mileage. Keep looking here as there have been some great cars that have come along over the years. A few that I have Bought and sold

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Posted by: 76-914 Feb 21 2021, 06:20 PM

I'm always suspicious of a 914 ad when there is the omission of the word "rust". shades.gif

Posted by: r_towle Feb 21 2021, 06:34 PM

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I'm always suspicious of a 914 ad when there is the omission of the word "rust". shades.gif

Note taken.

I will have the crew proof read my ad later this year to ensure I have included the word Rust a correct amount of times, and possibly in random areas.

Posted by: wonkipop Feb 21 2021, 07:50 PM

of interest when you take a second look.

cocoa mats look like they might be the real deal from back in the day.
i had a set in mine when i bought it in 89 and still have them.
identical mats. colour. foot pad. standard issue dealer options.
(know you can get remakes, but they don't look like them - but photos hard to know).

shift lever knob is also original dealer mod option available back then. leather if you didn't like bakerlite. similar version had porsche emblem was offered. along with the small steering wheel mod (dealers did that one too though not on this).

a funny car - its all there by the looks of it.
inners are very clean. may have been resprayed in there?
but the front trunk area looks very clean, stickers all there etc.

just very shiny.
and EFI is long gone.

i'd guess its a once around the clock job.

gold letters on engine lid when should be silver.
but that was a common tart up in the 80s.
along with the rear 911 reflector bar.

it looks a lot like a lot of cars i looked at back in 89.
same sort of mods very common.
front spoiler, carb conversion etc.

wonder if its a kind of time capsule from the late 80s that has been resurrected and glossed up a lot.

as noted - wheels are recent ad on.
(was running rivieras?)
the steelie spare with a cinturato P3 on it confuses the picture.
thats an old spare tyre if i am not mistaken?
not original maybe, but could be pretty old.

the thing that really glares for me is the alum silver sill thresholds.
they should be black plastic on a 74.
they have definitely been replaced.

and a cali dash would be cracked? if original.
they were even cracked in 1989. maybe only one crack. but cracked.

Posted by: CaptainCrunch Feb 21 2021, 08:28 PM

QUOTE(wonkipop @ Feb 21 2021, 07:50 PM) *

of interest when you take a second look.

cocoa mats look like they might be the real deal from back in the day.
i had a set in mine when i bought it in 89 and still have them.
identical mats. colour. foot pad. standard issue dealer options.
(know you can get remakes, but they don't look like them - but photos hard to know).

shift lever knob is also original dealer mod option available back then. leather if you didn't like bakerlite. similar version had porsche emblem was offered. along with the small steering wheel mod (dealers did that one too though not on this).

a funny car - its all there by the looks of it.
inners are very clean. may have been resprayed in there?
but the front trunk area looks very clean, stickers all there etc.

just very shiny.
and EFI is long gone.

i'd guess its a once around the clock job.

gold letters on engine lid when should be silver.
but that was a common tart up in the 80s.
along with the rear 911 reflector bar.

it looks a lot like a lot of cars i looked at back in 89.
same sort of mods very common.
front spoiler, carb conversion etc.

wonder if its a kind of time capsule from the late 80s that has been resurrected and glossed up a lot.

as noted - wheels are recent ad on.
(was running rivieras?)
the steelie spare with a cinturato P3 on it confuses the picture.
thats an old spare tyre if i am not mistaken?
not original maybe, but could be pretty old.

the thing that really glares for me is the alum silver sill thresholds.
they should be black plastic on a 74.
they have definitely been replaced.

and a cali dash would be cracked? if original.
they were even cracked in 1989. maybe only one crack. but cracked.



Good insights and interesting point on the Pirelli P3s. They were a cheaper replacement for CN 36 tires in the late 70s/early 80s. Don’t know when Pirelli quit making them, but could be a 40 year old tire.

Posted by: wonkipop Feb 21 2021, 09:43 PM

maybe original carpets in it too.
the for sale photos make it hard to tell for sure.

i have a 74 1.8 with same brown interior.
(not as blindingly reflective).
the carpets had faded to that strange dead pan colour even 30 years ago.
i converted to rhd and managed to get last of new factory stock back then.
made a RHD set for the car i only finally recently installed.

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funny car.
but who knows with prices of 914s and the car hyped now.
got no idea what one is worth all of a sudden.
a car like that in aus could probably have that price tag on it but in AUD $.
so more like 20K USD. whether you would get that price remains academic here.
recently a very original - very good condition 1973 white 2.0 in LHD was for sale for AUD $29,900.00.
think i am correct with that figure as he just wanted what it owed him.
it sat around for several months but eventually sold for the asking price.
the LHD puts a lot of potential buyers off, only the serious would apply so limits your buyers to the true die hard enthusiast who has to have one.
i knew the guy to speak to who had it and sold it.
he is building a 914/GT replica.

it was a better looking car than this green one and it was presented very honestly.
and it was faultlessly original. right down to real fuchs (including spare). EFI still installed. console. fully iced 2.0. it had about 150K documentated miles on it from memory. which matched its condition. 150K carefully maintained miles. it was repainted externally but had original paint inners. it had only been imported about 3 or 4 years ago.

having said that there is currently a 1973 2.0L for sale in queensland with a tag of $59,000.00 on it. thats about the highest priced one outside a 6 i have seen here.
by about a factor of 2. i doubt it will get that. there are two others that have been sitting around on the market here for ages. both overpriced roughies.

Posted by: ericoneal Feb 22 2021, 08:00 AM

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Posted by: stevend914 Feb 22 2021, 11:45 AM

I looked at one of their for sale 914's once and found that there were problems with the car not shown by the pics, and they ask twice what a car is worth.

Posted by: 9146GUY Feb 23 2021, 08:55 AM

Factory A/C......Not hardly, all A/C was dealer installed.

Posted by: wonkipop Feb 23 2021, 04:44 PM

one for sale in aus for a av-943.gif

converts to approx. $46K usd.
has bonus back to front mounted warts.

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/1973-porsche-914-manual/SSE-AD-7052534/?Cr=0

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