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Posted by: oakdalecurtis Feb 22 2021, 12:04 PM

Seems like “what’s the best battery for our teeners” always comes up. Here’s Road n Tracks current opinion...

https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/car-accessories/g35483666/top-ranked-car-batteries-from-experts/

Posted by: yeahmag Feb 22 2021, 12:19 PM

Pretty sure my next battery will be from Antigravity Batteries.

Posted by: Superhawk996 Feb 22 2021, 12:48 PM

May just be me growing into a grumpy old man. That R&T site completely summarizes why I no longer pay attention to Road and Track and many othef buff magazines.

Advertising & marketing masquerading as jounalism courtesy of Hearst Automotive Group (now owners of BaT).

Nevermind that Hearst will get an affiliate commission on click though purchases via the SHOP NOW button.

Posted by: jd74914 Feb 22 2021, 01:09 PM

QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ Feb 22 2021, 01:48 PM) *

May just be me growing into a grumpy old man. That R&T site completely summarizes why I no longer pay attention to Road and Track and many othef buff magazines.

You may be a grumpy old man...but as a likely much younger guy I whole heartedly agree. Junk.

It's sad-I used to really look forward to reading those magazines just a bit over a decade ago.

Posted by: robkammer Feb 22 2021, 01:44 PM

I'm looking for a new battery for the new to me BB. I put gel batteries in a boat several years ago because they were in a location that would go under water occasionally. Seemed fine but sold the boat after three years. No idea how long they lasted.

I don't think I'll ever be able to forgive Hearst for taking Autoweek away. Road and Track is a very poor substitute. Now I'm sad to see that Hearst bought BaT?

Posted by: Mark Henry Feb 22 2021, 02:45 PM

Those batteries are not even the correct size.

Posted by: Big Len Feb 22 2021, 02:54 PM

QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ Feb 22 2021, 01:48 PM) *

May just be me growing into a grumpy old man. That R&T site completely summarizes why I no longer pay attention to Road and Track and many othef buff magazines.

Advertising & marketing masquerading as jounalism courtesy of Hearst Automotive Group (now owners of BaT).

Nevermind that Hearst will get an affiliate commission on click though purchases via the SHOP NOW button.


Couldn't agree more.

Posted by: ClayPerrine Feb 22 2021, 02:58 PM

The Die Hard battery is only $22.00.

Hard to beat that price.

Posted by: PlaysWithCars Feb 22 2021, 03:01 PM

I’ve had great luck with the Odessey PC680 in my -4 previously and in my -6 now.

Posted by: JamesM Feb 22 2021, 04:12 PM

I scrolled down far enough to see "Optima RedTop" as the first thing listed, then I closed my browser.

garbage.. last 2 didn't even make it to the 3 year mark.

Since then the Odysseys have been for good me. PC925 or PC680 though. Just replaced my first PC925 after ~10 or so years of pretty hard abuse.

Posted by: raynekat Feb 22 2021, 05:31 PM

I've got the XS Power battery and it's an AGM and it's great.
Fits perfectly into our battery tray using the stock hold down bracket.

R&T shows the wrong one though.
You want the D4700.
Here's mine: starting on post #782
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=249327&st=760

Posted by: horizontally-opposed Feb 22 2021, 08:44 PM

QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ Feb 22 2021, 10:48 AM) *

May just be me growing into a grumpy old man.


Nope.

QUOTE(jd74914 @ Feb 22 2021, 11:09 AM) *


as a likely much younger guy I whole heartedly agree. Junk.

It's sad-I used to really look forward to reading those magazines just a bit over a decade ago.


It is sad.

R&T, C/D, Autoweek…these were the absolute standard-bearers as I grew up, giving me hours and hours of reading pleasure and no small amount of information I found fascinating.

Posted by: JmuRiz Feb 22 2021, 10:12 PM

QUOTE(JamesM @ Feb 22 2021, 02:12 PM) *

I scrolled down far enough to see "Optima RedTop" as the first thing listed, then I closed my browser.

garbage.. last 2 didn't even make it to the 3 year mark.

Since then the Odysseys have been for good me. PC925 or PC680 though. Just replaced my first PC925 after ~10 or so years of pretty hard abuse.

That’s what I hear, the new red tops ain’t what they used to be. My 10y/o 6v red top is still good (just jinxed myself) in the old car.

Good to know about the Odyssey, I’ll need a new one when I hook up the power train.

Posted by: jd74914 Feb 23 2021, 12:35 PM

QUOTE(horizontally-opposed @ Feb 22 2021, 09:44 PM) *

It is sad.

R&T, C/D, Autoweek…these were the absolute standard-bearers as I grew up, giving me hours and hours of reading pleasure and no small amount of information I found fascinating.

agree.gif Can't even count how many hours I spent in the library reading those publications in my teens.

Posted by: Rand Feb 23 2021, 10:15 PM

Another vote for Odyssey batteries. I wouldn't take any advice from Road and Track these days.

Posted by: Shredhead Feb 24 2021, 07:25 AM

Oddysey.

Posted by: Root_Werks Feb 24 2021, 10:54 AM

QUOTE(PlaysWithCars @ Feb 22 2021, 01:01 PM) *

I’ve had great luck with the Odessey PC680 in my -4 previously and in my -6 now.


agree.gif

I run PC680's in our Bugs and a PC1200 in my 914-6. Been using them for over 10 years and they've proven themselves.

Posted by: Mark Henry Feb 24 2021, 10:59 AM

QUOTE(Root_Werks @ Feb 24 2021, 11:54 AM) *

QUOTE(PlaysWithCars @ Feb 22 2021, 01:01 PM) *

I’ve had great luck with the Odessey PC680 in my -4 previously and in my -6 now.


agree.gif

I run PC680's in our Bugs and a PC1200 in my 914-6. Been using them for over 10 years and they've proven themselves.


I also have a PC680 on a high CR twin plug /6.

Posted by: bbrock Feb 24 2021, 11:02 AM

I'm very confused by their quote from Consumer Reports (and why we should listen to CR about car technology is beyond me). They claim AGM batteries tolerate discharge better and are best for cars that sit a long time. That is the opposite of what I have read and experienced. If you leave a car sit with an AGM battery, it is best to have a battery tender on it. I ruined a lightly used Optima (and one of the old good ones) by letting it go completely flat. That was an expensive lesson. Don't get me wrong, I love AGM, but will never let one sit like that again.

BTW, Optima claims they fixed the quality issues. I have a new one so will see how long it lasts.

Posted by: yeahmag Feb 24 2021, 11:18 AM

Just to stir the pot:

Odyssey PC680: 15lbs, 170CCA, $179
Antigravity ATZ10 RE-START: 2.6lbs, 360CCA, $199

Posted by: horizontally-opposed Feb 24 2021, 12:20 PM

QUOTE(yeahmag @ Feb 24 2021, 09:18 AM) *

Just to stir the pot:

Odyssey PC680: 15lbs, 170CCA, $179
Antigravity ATZ10 RE-START: 2.6lbs, 360CCA, $199


Been looking at Anti-Gravity, and reached out to them. Seems like best fit for a 914 street car is an H5.

H5/ GROUP 47
Models Available in 24Ah, 30Ah, 40Ah but Cranking Performance better than a 90Ah Lead Battery

H5-24-RS ("RACE ONLY" says website; rep said could be okay for a street car)
24 Amp Hours
1000 Cranking Amps
8.5 lbs

H5-30-RS (rep recommended this one to be safe)
30 Amp Hours
1200 Cranking Amps
11.7 lbs

https://antigravitybatteries.com/products/starter-batteries/automotive/ag-h5-rs/

Not cheap, at $649-$749, but there are some nice features and it ends up as a delta of $470-$570 over a PC680. Have seen raves about good service life from Odyssey batteries, but also several comments re: problems/short service life with recommendations to skip straight to an Anti-Gravity so you only have to do it once. Have yet to see a negative review of Anti-Gravity, other than price.

So it looks like the "best" battery—if best is lightest and most advanced within the realm of reason—for a 914 is a Odyssey PC680 or an Anti-Gravity H5-30-RS. It is very cool that we have these options. Short of a 1/4 tank of gas, it's difficult to duplicate this kind of weight savings for this kind of cost—without loss of functionality.

Posted by: ClayPerrine Feb 24 2021, 12:39 PM

I have the exact same model of Optima battery in everything we own. That way we can transfer batteries between vehicles. And everything but my truck sits on a battery tender on a regular basis. With Covid, they just don't get driven like they used to.

Clay

Posted by: horizontally-opposed Feb 24 2021, 12:44 PM

Interesting to see the comments re: Optimas going dead without being on a tender.

I've been running them since 1992~, and have only had 2-3 Optima batteries in all that time. Early on, I had to have a kill switch due to a draw (turned out to be the horn relay, which was "on" all the time). Since then (2003-2004?), I've never had an issue.

And I've never kept them on tenders. Car sometimes sat for months. Started right up every time. My only motivation in looking at an Odyssey or an Anti-Gravity is a desire to claim back some of the 120~ lbs added by the six conversion, and these batteries look to be good for about a 1/4 of it, and up high too.

Posted by: Superhawk996 Feb 24 2021, 01:27 PM

QUOTE(bbrock @ Feb 24 2021, 12:02 PM) *

I'm very confused by their quote from Consumer Reports (and why we should listen to CR about car technology is beyond me).


Couldn't have said it better myself.

Yet another example of a magazine that has struggled to stay relevant in print and that has shifted it's on-line presence toward marketing. They have long claimed to be objective but steadfastly refused transparency with respect to their "objective" rating sytem.

Posted by: bbrock Feb 24 2021, 01:33 PM

QUOTE(horizontally-opposed @ Feb 24 2021, 11:44 AM) *

Interesting to see the comments re: Optimas going dead without being on a tender.

I've been running them since 1992~, and have only had 2-3 Optima batteries in all that time. Early on, I had to have a kill switch due to a draw (turned out to be the horn relay, which was "on" all the time). Since then (2003-2004?), I've never had an issue.

And I've never kept them on tenders. Car sometimes sat for months. Started right up every time. My only motivation in looking at an Odyssey or an Anti-Gravity is a desire to claim back some of the 120~ lbs added by the six conversion, and these batteries look to be good for about a 1/4 of it, and up high too.


I should clarify about my Optima going dead. I had a yellow top in my snow plow that would sit for months not on a tender and through many brutal -20 to -30 winters. When I did run it, it had the extra draw of a snow plow to contend with. It always fired up and was amazing. It finally died this year after an incredible 12 years of service. Amazing battery! When I traded in the core, I told the FLAPS guy it belonged in a museum rather than recycled. At the same time I had a red top in a truck parked next to the snow plow under the same conditions. I let that one sit nearly a year without starting and the battery went flat. Couldn't bring it back even following Optima's instructions.

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