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Posted by: bbrock Mar 6 2021, 08:21 PM

Some of you already know about this from my build thread, but I thought I'd share a video showing off my custom air intake.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm-LOk_IBpg


As usual, there are more details on construction etc. in my build thread here: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&showtopic=307290&view=findpost&p=2868946

Posted by: IronHillRestorations Mar 6 2021, 09:51 PM

Amazing workmanship!

Posted by: MM1 Mar 7 2021, 12:12 AM

Well done, Sir!

Posted by: wonkipop Mar 7 2021, 02:07 AM

mate - thats just horn as its said down in aus.

its looks fully kraut. flick off clips. the whole deal.
total homage to the 1.8 dual carb euro set up and looks so right.
(but just the correct amount meaner and nastier than their not so good solex set up).

i think you are still going to get just the right amount of induction noise from the snorkel pointed at your back. not too loud, just pleasantly "informative". even the wimp mobile L jet 1.8s manage to make a goodish/sort of induction noise via the snorkel. yours is going to sound very satisfying.

impeccable/tasteful is all i can say. beer.gif

Posted by: JamesM Mar 7 2021, 02:42 AM

Here is a similar setup that is very pricy, but a lot less work

https://www.ahnendorp.com/VW-Type-4---Porsche-914-engineparts-and-machining/Carburettors--Manifolds--Supplies-74/Central-Air-Filter-System-VW-type-4-2-0-with-Porsche-Cooling--complete-set-for-one-engine--to-fit-with-Weber-IDF-und-Dellorto-1444.html?language=en

Posted by: mate914 Mar 7 2021, 08:19 AM

Very Very nice work....
Matt

Posted by: Superhawk996 Mar 7 2021, 09:14 AM

Now that you've worked out the kinks with your 1st prototype, time to invest in soft tooling and ramp up production. happy11.gif

Posted by: Robarabian Mar 7 2021, 09:21 AM

WOW. I think you underestimate how professional and nice this came out. Very well done. I'd like to hear it once it is running too!

Posted by: bbrock Mar 7 2021, 09:52 AM

QUOTE(wonkipop @ Mar 7 2021, 01:07 AM) *

i think you are still going to get just the right amount of induction noise from the snorkel pointed at your back. not too loud, just pleasantly "informative". even the wimp mobile L jet 1.8s manage to make a goodish/sort of induction noise via the snorkel. yours is going to sound very satisfying.


I didn't really think about that. I know I'm weird, but "just the right amount of induction noise" for me is zero. I find this world way too noisy thanks to people already so any dB I can eliminate, the better. I'll run with this and see how it sounds. The snorkel is the easiest part to fabricate so I've already prepared to fiddle with other configurations if needed. I originally wanted to add a resonator to quiet things down even more and may do that at some point. There is also a possibility of adding an electric choke that originally came with these bus air boxes. I decided to KISS for now.

QUOTE(JamesM @ Mar 7 2021, 01:42 AM) *

Here is a similar setup that is very pricy, but a lot less work

https://www.ahnendorp.com/VW-Type-4---Porsche-914-engineparts-and-machining/Carburettors--Manifolds--Supplies-74/Central-Air-Filter-System-VW-type-4-2-0-with-Porsche-Cooling--complete-set-for-one-engine--to-fit-with-Weber-IDF-und-Dellorto-1444.html?language=en


Yes! I took a lot of inspiration from that design. I cannot find the pic now, but @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=11329 has one installed and it is most definitely dead sexy drooley.gif drooley.gif drooley.gif It is for sure a great plug and play alternative.

That design did miss several check marks on my ridiculous wish list though. As sexy as it is, it definitely looks aftermarket to my eye. I wanted a design that left people scratching their head for a few seconds trying to figure out what they were looking at. It also doesn't use the stock filter element. Not a big deal but it does make sourcing replacement elements easier. Also, it doesn't look like you can access the tops of the carbs without tools. A minor thing, but it was on my wish list.

Most importantly, at the time I started this, I had more time than money to put into the build and am kind of obsessed with meta shaping, especially with minimal tools, and thought this might be a good project for learning some new skills.

Posted by: Garland Mar 7 2021, 10:36 AM

Fantastic job, great creativity, great effort.

Posted by: rgolia Mar 7 2021, 11:26 AM

Well done for sure. Here is the one from CPS in my 914

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Posted by: wes Mar 7 2021, 11:51 AM

Very nicely done! Must do a sound check when engine is installed.

Posted by: SirAndy Mar 7 2021, 03:57 PM

QUOTE(bbrock @ Mar 6 2021, 06:21 PM) *
showing off my custom air intake

Now where have i seen this design before ...
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Posted by: gereed75 Mar 7 2021, 04:44 PM

Brent. Really nice. Has a very clean factory look. Maybe in Aussie land they call it horn, but it is what we used to call “trick”.

Posted by: r_towle Mar 7 2021, 05:15 PM

Fantastic!

Posted by: wonkipop Mar 7 2021, 05:29 PM

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=20845

"I didn't really think about that. I know I'm weird, but "just the right amount of induction noise" for me is zero. I find this world way too noisy thanks to people already so any dB I can eliminate, the better..... ."

original snorkel intakes i've seen on an NSU RO80 wankel and a Citroen Birotor here are designed to suppress induction noise. the wankels were loud unsilenced - ports instead of intake valves - not that different to a two stroke and potentially as noisy. mazda worried less, but NSU and Citroen were luxury cars meant to be quiet. Its not a resonator box or chamber - but a swollen snorkel that is a muffler, similar to an exhaust. some kind of chamber design - in front of the filter drum.
they are both very quiet from inside the car, though front engines are a little easier to keep noise down than a 914. the NSU is particularly spooky. you can't hear the engine and its electric motor smooth with no vibration. so.....there is no sense of the engine at all, apart from the sensation of acceleration.



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