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Posted by: goobstine Mar 27 2021, 02:50 AM
will the monza corsa corvair 6 cyl air cooled engine work with a stock 914 transmission. ( not mount it is already mounted with adapter plate ) it is my understanding corvair engine rotates counter clockwise. How could this possibly operate with a stock 914 transmission? I have the transmission out of the car is there any way to check the rotation of the trans gears and things to see if i am getting the correct rotation out of my trans in a reverse fashion for the corvair counter clockwise action i will be receiving.
Posted by: ClayPerrine Mar 27 2021, 04:54 AM
will the monza corsa corvair 6 cyl air cooled engine work with a stock 914 transmission. ( not mount it is already mounted with adapter plate ) it is my understanding corvair engine rotates counter clockwise. How could this possibly operate with a stock 914 transmission? I have the transmission out of the car is there any way to check the rotation of the trans gears and things to see if i am getting the correct rotation out of my trans in a reverse fashion for the corvair counter clockwise action i will be receiving. any help would be appreciated.
There are companies that make (made) reverse rotation camshafts for Corvair engines. That is the proper way to put a Corvair engine against a 914 transmission.
Others will tell you to just flip the ring and pinion in the transmission. But that is a bad idea. The 901 transmission uses helical cut gears inside it to reduce noise. Whenever helical cut gears are used, the "climb" against each other, putting thrust loads on the shafts. That load is transferred to the transmission case. If you reverse the rotation of the input shaft, you will reverse the "climb" of the gears. And that reverses the thrust loads on the transmission case. The engineers that designed the transmission did not provide thrust bearings for the reversed load. So now the transmission is running thrust loads against the magnesium case without the proper thrust bearings. This drastically shortens the life of the transmission.
I hope that helps.
Clay
Posted by: Mark Henry Mar 27 2021, 05:33 AM
If I was looking to do a different engine it would be a V8 or subi.
Personally with the 914 values going up I'd stick to the T4.
Posted by: goobstine Mar 28 2021, 03:58 AM
will the monza corsa corvair 6 cyl air cooled engine work with a stock 914 transmission. ( not mount it is already mounted with adapter plate ) it is my understanding corvair engine rotates counter clockwise. How could this possibly operate with a stock 914 transmission? I have the transmission out of the car is there any way to check the rotation of the trans gears and things to see if i am getting the correct rotation out of my trans in a reverse fashion for the corvair counter clockwise action i will be receiving. any help would be appreciated.
There are companies that make (made) reverse rotation camshafts for Corvair engines. That is the proper way to put a Corvair engine against a 914 transmission.
Others will tell you to just flip the ring and pinion in the transmission. But that is a bad idea. The 901 transmission uses helical cut gears inside it to reduce noise. Whenever helical cut gears are used, the "climb" against each other, putting thrust loads on the shafts. That load is transferred to the transmission case. If you reverse the rotation of the input shaft, you will reverse the "climb" of the gears. And that reverses the thrust loads on the transmission case. The engineers that designed the transmission did not provide thrust bearings for the reversed load. So now the transmission is running thrust loads against the magnesium case without the proper thrust bearings. This drastically shortens the life of the transmission.
I hope that helps.
Clay
Thank you
Posted by: goobstine Mar 28 2021, 04:25 AM
If I was looking to do a different engine it would be a V8 or subi.
Personally with the 914 values going up I'd stick to the T4.
Posted by: rgalla9146 Mar 28 2021, 05:55 AM
If I was looking to do a different engine it would be a V8 or subi.
Personally with the 914 values going up I'd stick to the T4.
I do not need or want your advise or comments ever ! please stay away from my posts. thank you
This may not end well.
Posted by: Mark Henry Mar 28 2021, 07:25 AM
If I was looking to do a different engine it would be a V8 or subi.
Personally with the 914 values going up I'd stick to the T4.
I do not need or want your advise or comments ever ! please stay away from my posts. thank you
This may not end well.
I have no idea who goober is or what's his damage, but really I don't care.
Posted by: larryM Mar 28 2021, 11:31 AM
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=corvair+vw+conversions
http://www.volksrods.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28401
http://corvaircenter.com/phorum/read.php?1,290151
Posted by: rhodyguy Mar 28 2021, 11:43 AM
OH MY!
Posted by: KELTY360 Mar 28 2021, 11:44 AM
If I was looking to do a different engine it would be a V8 or subi.
Personally with the 914 values going up I'd stick to the T4.
I do not need or want your advise or comments ever ! please stay away from my posts. thank you
What’s your problem newbie? That’s not how we treat people around here.
Posted by: rhodyguy Mar 28 2021, 11:53 AM
Just put Mark on ignore if his comments are unwelcome. That's what we are told to do. Admins set appropriate content. Enjoy your covair engine build. Usually the parts required go for a short song due to the stalled project.
Posted by: sixnotfour Mar 28 2021, 12:28 PM
Back in the Day ...Allot of ring gears got flipped...... 914 trans are Cheep..Go till She Blows...
Chances are itll drop a valve seat ,,,before the trans fails...
Posted by: gandalf_025 Mar 28 2021, 02:14 PM
I’m pretty sure if you flip the differential on a 914 transmission and
Change out the shift rods and end cover you get a 911 transmission..
Think it will work fine with a flipped diff.
Corvair engine would need a reverse cam and maybe a
reverse distributor drive gear set and they make a
kit to help the backwards fan belt stay on..
If you are going to use a Corvair engine,
make sure the valve seats are tight.
Those are a known weakness of those heads.
Posted by: Front yard mechanic Mar 28 2021, 02:24 PM
Save the corvair 
it's not worthy in a 914 
Posted by: clarkcou Mar 28 2021, 09:11 PM
If I was looking to do a different engine it would be a V8 or subi.
Personally with the 914 values going up I'd stick to the T4.
I do not need or want your advise or comments ever ! please stay away from my posts. thank you
RUDE
Posted by: goobstine Mar 29 2021, 09:18 AM
I’m pretty sure if you flip the differential on a 914 transmission and
Change out the shift rods and end cover you get a 911 transmission..
Think it will work fine with a flipped diff.
Corvair engine would need a reverse cam and maybe a
reverse distributor drive gear set and they make a
kit to help the backwards fan belt stay on..
If you are going to use a Corvair engine,
make sure the valve seats are tight.
Those are a known weakness of those heads.
thank you
Posted by: goobstine Mar 29 2021, 09:21 AM
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=corvair+vw+conversions
http://www.volksrods.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28401
http://corvaircenter.com/phorum/read.php?1,290151
thank you
Posted by: goobstine Mar 29 2021, 09:23 AM
Back in the Day ...Allot of ring gears got flipped...... 914 trans are Cheep..Go till She Blows...
Chances are itll drop a valve seat ,,,before the trans fails...
agreed,
thanks
Posted by: goobstine Mar 29 2021, 09:30 AM
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If I was looking to do a different engine it would be a V8 or subi.
Personally with the 914 values going up I'd stick to the T4.
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Posted by: rhodyguy Mar 29 2021, 09:33 AM
Well? You're watching. Not OP.
Posted by: goobstine Mar 29 2021, 09:36 AM
If I was looking to do a different engine it would be a V8 or subi.
Personally with the 914 values going up I'd stick to the T4.
I do not need or want your advise or comments ever ! please stay away from my posts. thank you
This may not end well.
shut your piehole , stay off my posts please. opinions are not appreciated. they only show what you are and everybodys got one.
Posted by: rhodyguy Mar 29 2021, 09:46 AM
You're only making the matter worse. Name calling is NOT allowed. Perhaps a moderator will see the action and will rectify the situation.
Posted by: ClayPerrine Mar 29 2021, 11:23 AM
If I was looking to do a different engine it would be a V8 or subi.
Personally with the 914 values going up I'd stick to the T4.
I do not need or want your advise or comments ever ! please stay away from my posts. thank you
This may not end well.
shut your piehole , stay off my posts please. opinions are not appreciated. they only show what you are and everybodys got one.
Admin PM Sent.
Clay
Posted by: 914werke Mar 29 2021, 12:29 PM
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Posted by: jfort Mar 29 2021, 12:37 PM
I do not need or want your advise or comments ever ! please stay away from my posts. thank you
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As long as shots are being followed, it's ADVICE not advise.
Posted by: rhodyguy Mar 29 2021, 12:44 PM
'Has' one if we're being picky. And skip the s.
Posted by: oakdalecurtis Mar 29 2021, 01:24 PM
Posted by: pcdarks Mar 29 2021, 02:05 PM
Interesting to see I'm not the only one to get frustrated at responses. When I ask if a seal will fit my 901 I would hear about someone's cat barfing in the living room or the seals may be endangered. I've come to realize a lot of 914 owners have moderate to severe ADD. Or are just trying to keep their post average up. LOL.
Posted by: Chris914n6 Mar 29 2021, 02:39 PM
If I was looking to do a different engine it would be a V8 or subi.
Personally with the 914 values going up I'd stick to the T4.
I do not need or want your advise or comments ever ! please stay away from my posts. thank you
Is this going into a bus, bug or a 914?
-914 trans must have a 914 flywheel.
-for a bug (type 1) trans with a T4 bus flywheel you have to make the pilot hole the same size as a pilot bearing OD. You also need the crank spacer from a 914 crank. The easy route is you can buy a new type one 200mm conversion flywheel from AA.
Best to find a good 1.7/1,8 case as they likely don't need a line bore.
2.0 Bus crank and rods can be used with 2.0 pistons.
914 thanks
Thank you I want line bore, and lots of it.
Posted by: flippa Mar 29 2021, 05:41 PM
Good luck with your build
Posted by: SirAndy Mar 29 2021, 06:24 PM
What the hell did i just walk into?
Posted by: flat4guy Mar 29 2021, 06:32 PM
OTTO used to make a kit to mate a corvair 6 with a VW. Not sure if they did one for the 914 but maybe worth looking into.
Posted by: VegasRacer Mar 29 2021, 06:42 PM
What the hell did i just walk into?
Come on Andy. This is some funny $h!t.
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Posted by: 73-914 Mar 29 2021, 06:51 PM
Me thinks people have been locked in their houses way too long
Posted by: rhodyguy Mar 30 2021, 09:17 AM
Interesting to see I'm not the only one to get frustrated at responses. When I ask if a seal will fit my 901 I would hear about someone's cat barfing in the living room or the seals may be endangered. I've come to realize a lot of 914 owners have moderate to severe ADD. Or are just trying to keep their post average up. LOL.
Cats?
Barf? Seals? ADD? 
What? Where? There's always The Bird when 914world doesn't strike your fancy. Get a Haynes....Posted by: mb911 Mar 30 2021, 10:00 AM
Posted by: brant Mar 30 2021, 10:05 AM
a slow car wreck....
all of these threads are opinions...
everyone does certain things in different ways
and you don't have to post... don't have to ask questions... if you don't want an answer
Posted by: Shivers Mar 30 2021, 10:16 AM
Barfing cats. lol, it's nice to be home.
Posted by: bretth Mar 30 2021, 12:31 PM
Geese people being triggered by so many things out there but now over engine choices? 
Posted by: rjames Mar 30 2021, 02:16 PM
Geese people being triggered by so many things out there but now over engine choices?
Geese?
Posted by: bretth Mar 30 2021, 02:31 PM
Now I am triggered by that Goose with its judgemental stare.
Posted by: Chris914n6 Mar 30 2021, 05:42 PM
You want to put 1950s GM engine tech into a Porsche? Are you duck?
This thread has flown the coop
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