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914World.com _ 914World Garage _ Any OEM design 911 muffler up to a 2.4L fit?
Posted by: Tdskip May 30 2021, 03:58 PM
From the research I’ve done it appears that 2.4L and earlier 912 mufflers fit our /6 builds but I wanted to double check.
Thanks!
Posted by: ClayPerrine May 30 2021, 04:52 PM
Any 911 muffler will fit with the /4 rear valence. If you have a six porthole valence, it will only work with a /6 muffler.
Posted by: Retroracer May 30 2021, 05:35 PM
...with @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=1143 . Also, if you're doing a GT tribute then no rear valence needed of course.
BTW - do you need a muffler? I have a ceramic coated Tesh single outlet muffler sitting in storage. PM me if interested...
- Tony
Posted by: Tdskip May 30 2021, 08:53 PM
Thanks for the responses and info.
Posted by: Chris914n6 May 30 2021, 11:54 PM
Don't have a good pic but mine is a late 80s Carrera 1 in 1 out and stock -4 valance.
Posted by: mb911 May 31 2021, 06:27 AM
QUOTE(Tdskip @ May 30 2021, 01:58 PM)
From the research I’ve done it appears that 2.4L and earlier 912 mufflers fit our /6 builds but I wanted to double check.
Thanks!
Tom,
912 mufflers do NOT fit any 911 or 914-6 application.
Let me know if you need a stainless quiet tech muffler.
Posted by: mepstein May 31 2021, 07:17 AM
QUOTE(mb911 @ May 31 2021, 08:27 AM)
QUOTE(Tdskip @ May 30 2021, 01:58 PM)
From the research I’ve done it appears that 2.4L and earlier 912 mufflers fit our /6 builds but I wanted to double check.
Thanks!
Tom,
912 mufflers do NOT fit any 911 or 914-6 application.
Let me know if you need a stainless quiet tech muffler.
This is a 912 muffler
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Posted by: ClayPerrine May 31 2021, 09:43 AM
QUOTE(mepstein @ May 31 2021, 08:17 AM)
QUOTE(mb911 @ May 31 2021, 08:27 AM)
QUOTE(Tdskip @ May 30 2021, 01:58 PM)
From the research I’ve done it appears that 2.4L and earlier 912 mufflers fit our /6 builds but I wanted to double check.
Thanks!
Tom,
912 mufflers do NOT fit any 911 or 914-6 application.
Let me know if you need a stainless quiet tech muffler.
This is a 912 muffler
One Exception. 1976 912E muffler will fit. It is the same part as a 2.0 914.
Posted by: 914werke May 31 2021, 12:28 PM
QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ May 31 2021, 08:43 AM)
One Exception. 1976 912E muffler will fit. It is the same part as a 2.0 914.
NOPE
Not the same. Similar but will not bolt up to any 911/914/6 solution nor the 914/4.
The Body of the muffler is identical, the flanges are specific to the 912e one yrs only HE's. They are still 3 bolt attachment but upside down from the /4 mounting.
Posted by: mb911 May 31 2021, 12:49 PM
QUOTE(914werke @ May 31 2021, 10:28 AM)
QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ May 31 2021, 08:43 AM)
One Exception. 1976 912E muffler will fit. It is the same part as a 2.0 914.
NOPE
Not the same. Similar but will not bolt up to any 911/914/6 solution nor the 914/4.
The Body of the muffler is identical, the flanges are specific to the 912e one yrs only HE's. They are still 3 bolt attachment but upside down from the /4 mounting.
Correct
Posted by: Tdskip May 31 2021, 05:52 PM
Oh geez, there was a typo in my original post. I intended to write 911 hence the 2.4L reference.
In any case thanks for the responses and information!
Posted by: ClayPerrine Jun 1 2021, 08:36 AM
QUOTE(mb911 @ May 31 2021, 01:49 PM)
QUOTE(914werke @ May 31 2021, 10:28 AM)
QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ May 31 2021, 08:43 AM)
One Exception. 1976 912E muffler will fit. It is the same part as a 2.0 914.
NOPE
Not the same. Similar but will not bolt up to any 911/914/6 solution nor the 914/4.
The Body of the muffler is identical, the flanges are specific to the 912e one yrs only HE's. They are still 3 bolt attachment but upside down from the /4 mounting.
Correct
I always thought it was the same muffler.
I am going to check this out next time I am at my friend's shop. He has a 912E.
Clay
Posted by: 914werke Jun 7 2021, 10:16 AM
QUOTE(mb911 @ May 31 2021, 11:49 AM)
QUOTE(914werke @ May 31 2021, 10:28 AM)
QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ May 31 2021, 08:43 AM)
One Exception. 1976 912E muffler will fit. It is the same part as a 2.0 914.
NOPE
Not the same. Similar but will not bolt up to any 911/914/6 solution nor the 914/4.
The Body of the muffler is identical, the flanges are specific to the 912e one yrs only HE's. They are still 3 bolt attachment but upside down from the /4 mounting.
Correct
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=9892 Ben before I begin a exhaustive (see what I did there
)search, I figure Ill ask the muffler expert.
Do you know if the spacing / or tube inlet measurement is the same for the 914/4 & 912e muffler variants ?
In other words if I mod a 914 2.0L banana to apply the correct flanges for the 912e will it attach / fit the 912e HE's?
Posted by: mb911 Jun 7 2021, 10:40 AM
QUOTE(914werke @ Jun 7 2021, 08:16 AM)
QUOTE(mb911 @ May 31 2021, 11:49 AM)
QUOTE(914werke @ May 31 2021, 10:28 AM)
QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ May 31 2021, 08:43 AM)
One Exception. 1976 912E muffler will fit. It is the same part as a 2.0 914.
NOPE
Not the same. Similar but will not bolt up to any 911/914/6 solution nor the 914/4.
The Body of the muffler is identical, the flanges are specific to the 912e one yrs only HE's. They are still 3 bolt attachment but upside down from the /4 mounting.
Correct
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=9892 Ben before I begin a exhaustive (see what I did there
)search, I figure Ill ask the muffler expert.
Do you know if the spacing / or tube inlet measurement is the same for the 914/4 & 912e muffler variants ?
In other words if I mod a 914 2.0L banana to apply the correct flanges for the 912e will it attach / fit the 912e HE's?
They are not the same. 912e is about the craziest setup on the planet. They come in at an angle. Could it be modified to work ? Yes for sure. Would be a bunch of work. I could see that as a 8-10 hour project to ensure everything lines up , trial fit, weld etc.
Posted by: mepstein Jun 7 2021, 11:00 AM
QUOTE(mb911 @ Jun 7 2021, 12:40 PM)
QUOTE(914werke @ Jun 7 2021, 08:16 AM)
QUOTE(mb911 @ May 31 2021, 11:49 AM)
QUOTE(914werke @ May 31 2021, 10:28 AM)
QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ May 31 2021, 08:43 AM)
One Exception. 1976 912E muffler will fit. It is the same part as a 2.0 914.
NOPE
Not the same. Similar but will not bolt up to any 911/914/6 solution nor the 914/4.
The Body of the muffler is identical, the flanges are specific to the 912e one yrs only HE's. They are still 3 bolt attachment but upside down from the /4 mounting.
Correct
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=9892 Ben before I begin a exhaustive (see what I did there
)search, I figure Ill ask the muffler expert.
Do you know if the spacing / or tube inlet measurement is the same for the 914/4 & 912e muffler variants ?
In other words if I mod a 914 2.0L banana to apply the correct flanges for the 912e will it attach / fit the 912e HE's?
They are not the same. 912e is about the craziest setup on the planet. They come in at an angle. Could it be modified to work ? Yes for sure. Would be a bunch of work. I could see that as a 8-10 hour project to ensure everything lines up , trial fit, weld etc.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-912-technical-forum/168152-914-exhaust-912e.html
People have done it but it’s not worth it to hire out to a pro. Buying new is cheaper.
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