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Posted by: Jwjwjw Jun 7 2021, 05:36 PM

What do you think? At least it was creative. Now to fix this. Where would you start?
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Posted by: Jwjwjw Jun 7 2021, 05:48 PM

What do you think? At least it was creative. Now to fix this. Where would you start?

I was only able to post one picture?? Have to post at least one move, look for it.

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Posted by: Jwjwjw Jun 7 2021, 05:50 PM

Nice isn’t it?
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Posted by: Jwjwjw Jun 7 2021, 05:50 PM

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Posted by: SirAndy Jun 7 2021, 06:25 PM

So, he welded your trailing arms to the engine mount bar?

Effectively eliminating any sort of suspension travel?
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Posted by: mmichalik Jun 7 2021, 06:27 PM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jun 7 2021, 05:25 PM) *

So, he welded your trailing arms to the engine mount bar?

Effectively eliminating any sort of suspension travel?
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ok, so I was seeing the same thing then.
I was scratching my head there for a minute.

Posted by: mepstein Jun 7 2021, 06:30 PM

I was also wondering what was going on or what they are trying to accomplish.

Posted by: tygaboy Jun 7 2021, 06:32 PM

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I need more info on what, exactly, is going on here. There's no way that could be welded to the engine mount and the trailing arm and prevent things from moving. No way that weld/bracket is strong enough to stop things moving.

Does it flex in some magical way? Or is it just being used as the e-brake cable "mount"?
Curious minds want to know!

Posted by: tygaboy Jun 7 2021, 06:34 PM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jun 7 2021, 05:25 PM) *

So, he welded your trailing arms to the engine mount bar?

Effectively eliminating any sort of suspension travel?
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Wait a minute @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=179 , it could have been a "her"! lol-2.gif

Posted by: windforfun Jun 7 2021, 06:35 PM

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Posted by: Jwjwjw Jun 7 2021, 06:55 PM

QUOTE(tygaboy @ Jun 7 2021, 06:32 PM) *

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I need more info on what, exactly, is going on here. There's no way that could be welded to the engine mount and the trailing arm and prevent things from moving. No way that weld/bracket is strong enough to stop things moving.

Does it flex in some magical way? Or is it just being used as the e-brake cable "mount"?
Curious minds want to know!


I have no idea what is going on. I assume I should just remove and then start fixing the rust????

Posted by: mepstein Jun 7 2021, 07:15 PM

I would do your best to take the chassis back to stock.

Posted by: Superhawk996 Jun 7 2021, 07:15 PM

Just sort of makes you scratch your head and say WTF.gif

The small piece of sheet metal over the gaping hole between the long, the inner rear bulkhead and the outer rear bulkhead was a nice touch!

For the OP, you're my hero for taking this on! Save another one!

Posted by: bkrantz Jun 7 2021, 07:27 PM

In my experience, PO stupid is like an iceberg. 9/10ths are hidden from sight. Good luck (and keep posting).

Posted by: Front yard mechanic Jun 7 2021, 07:30 PM

Take your grinder and pretend it never happened

Posted by: AZBanks Jun 7 2021, 07:38 PM

QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ Jun 7 2021, 06:15 PM) *

Just sort of makes you scratch your head and say WTF.gif

The small piece of sheet metal over the gaping hole between the long, the inner rear bulkhead and the outer rear bulkhead was a nice touch!

For the OP, you're my hero for taking this on! Save another one!



I didn't notice the "rust repair" until you mentioned it. Wow, that is a special kind of POStupid!!!

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Jun 7 2021, 07:46 PM

The Ansen (brand) ground grabbers did wonders on eliminating rear wheel hop, under drag racing conditions: but can't figure out this Darwin's stick-welding nightmare on a 914.
Round up the usual grinders + face shields smile.gif
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Posted by: aharder Jun 7 2021, 08:31 PM

The first thing I would do is replace those Jack Stands....
Heard of too many failures with those.

Posted by: 930cabman Jun 8 2021, 05:17 AM

Looks like another adventure coming, hold on tight.

Posted by: rgalla9146 Jun 8 2021, 05:28 AM


That is to disguise the collapsed rear suspension.....the ultimate used car crime.
"Yes sir, it's got the racin' shocks.....real stiff.

Posted by: rfinegan Jun 8 2021, 05:29 AM

NO bolts in the engine mount bar? Is that so the assembly can still pivot with the suspension?

OR are the early bars recesses for the bolts?

Posted by: mepstein Jun 8 2021, 05:48 AM

QUOTE(rfinegan @ Jun 8 2021, 07:29 AM) *

NO bolts in the engine mount bar? Is that so the assembly can still pivot with the suspension?

OR are the early bars recesses for the bolts?

If I remember correctly, early bars use recessed Allen heads.

Posted by: Root_Werks Jun 8 2021, 08:44 AM

Oh goodness, remove and don't replace.

Posted by: flyer86d Jun 8 2021, 03:10 PM

Could they have been trying to support the trailing arm because of a failing or failed inner suspension pickup ear? The chassis looks a little crispy on the drinker side....

Charlie

Posted by: dlee6204 Jun 8 2021, 04:47 PM

QUOTE(flyer86d @ Jun 8 2021, 05:10 PM) *

Could they have been trying to support the trailing arm because of a failing or failed inner suspension pickup ear? The chassis looks a little crispy on the drinker side....

Charlie


agree.gif It looks like the inner mount is compromised.

Posted by: Jonathan Livesay Jun 8 2021, 05:02 PM

QUOTE(dlee6204 @ Jun 8 2021, 03:47 PM) *

QUOTE(flyer86d @ Jun 8 2021, 05:10 PM) *

Could they have been trying to support the trailing arm because of a failing or failed inner suspension pickup ear? The chassis looks a little crispy on the drinker side....

Charlie


agree.gif It looks like the inner mount is compromised.

They welded that on so they wouldn't have to go back to recover the right rear wheel when the swing arm came off.

Posted by: maf914 Jun 8 2021, 05:12 PM

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jun 7 2021, 04:25 PM) *

So, he welded your trailing arms to the engine mount bar?

Effectively eliminating any sort of suspension travel?
blink.gif


Maybe he was trying to turn the engine mount bar into an anti-sway bar?

Oh, wait a minute, the engine mount bar is anchored at each end. Never mind. laugh.gif

What was he trying to do? Did you drive the car with this modification? If so, how did it drive? idea.gif

Posted by: wonkipop Jun 8 2021, 06:50 PM

QUOTE(rgalla9146 @ Jun 8 2021, 05:28 AM) *

That is to disguise the collapsed rear suspension.....the ultimate used car crime.
"Yes sir, it's got the racin' shocks.....real stiff.


"great" men think alike.
not saying i'm great but y'know whad i mean beerchug.gif

chassis looks like its made of transparent steel - this is after the rarely observed event when the hell hole goes supernova and turns into a black hole?

maybe should not cut bar loose just yet. at least can still be pushed around.

Posted by: IronHillRestorations Jun 8 2021, 09:15 PM

Looks like they were trying to break the outer engine mount consoles by torquing out the engine bar

Posted by: brant Jun 8 2021, 09:33 PM

QUOTE(dlee6204 @ Jun 8 2021, 04:47 PM) *

QUOTE(flyer86d @ Jun 8 2021, 05:10 PM) *

Could they have been trying to support the trailing arm because of a failing or failed inner suspension pickup ear? The chassis looks a little crispy on the drinker side....

Charlie


agree.gif It looks like the inner mount is compromised.

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Posted by: mate914 Jun 9 2021, 05:56 AM

I call those pecker tracks.... Dont remove until you know more.
Matt

Posted by: dr.tim Jun 9 2021, 05:57 AM

QUOTE(maf914 @ Jun 8 2021, 05:12 PM) *

So, he welded your trailing arms to the engine mount bar?



That is my interpretation. It does have torsional rigidity sufficient to serve as such, but...
there are better ways to do this.

Posted by: mbseto Jun 9 2021, 01:26 PM

Well, we can all look at that picture and say, at least I know I am not the sharpest hammer in the bag!

Posted by: Superhawk996 Jun 9 2021, 02:43 PM

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=24296

you should post these pics over at the other DAPO thread. You have a real contender.

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=111299&st=40

Posted by: Jwjwjw Jun 10 2021, 06:14 AM

QUOTE(aharder @ Jun 7 2021, 08:31 PM) *

The first thing I would do is replace those Jack Stands....
Heard of too many failures with those.


Thanks for looking out for me! All the jacks I saw looked similar. What do u recommend?

Tks Jeff

Posted by: Shivers Jun 10 2021, 07:58 AM

QUOTE(Jwjwjw @ Jun 10 2021, 05:14 AM) *

QUOTE(aharder @ Jun 7 2021, 08:31 PM) *

The first thing I would do is replace those Jack Stands....
Heard of too many failures with those.


Thanks for looking out for me! All the jacks I saw looked similar. What do u recommend?

Tks Jeff


The pin type has a much lower failure rate. One of the members here had a real bad day with those holding up his car.

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Jun 10 2021, 08:37 AM

QUOTE(Jwjwjw @ Jun 10 2021, 05:14 AM) *

QUOTE(aharder @ Jun 7 2021, 08:31 PM) *

The first thing I would do is replace those Jack Stands....
Heard of too many failures with those.


Thanks for looking out for me! All the jacks I saw looked similar. What do u recommend?

Tks Jeff


I like this style; 3 welded .250" thick disc-pads on the ground , HD welded construction, pin type.
Just search online for the deal, like: Jegs, Summit, Pegasus Racing
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Posted by: ChrisFoley Jun 10 2021, 08:48 AM

I've seen some crazy, bad, stupid repair work on 914s,
but that takes it to a whole 'nuther level.

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