Good day folks,
Wanna-be 914 owner looking at a 1973 Phoenix Red with black. I know that there are known facts that if the door gaps on top are small and doors are difficult to open, then the body frame/floor may be beyond repair. However, the car I checked out has larger gaps on the top of both doors with what looks like surface rusts on the floors underneath both doors. and both doors open and shut fine. Looks like the passenger door may be a replacement due to yellow paint in the front inner door jam by the mirror. No other evidence of replacement panels and the rear trunk is good without any rusts and original.
thanks for all and any advice
-Hoi
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Welcome aboard. Pics?
Thanks for the help in how to insert pics.
Yes, there are engine and trans.
The car picks up incredibly well from 4-6000 rpm. He says it’s probably around 140 hp with the reworked 2.4L engine.
I see previous rust repair, could be that the car was not properly braced and warped when welded.
We'll need some better closeups of the underside ...
Well done for checking for input here. I'm also a newbie but $20K for that is ridiculous. I got my '73, all original and with probably the same level of (non - botched) rust for $4k. Not running but it will be this weekend after cleaning out the fuel system.
If you're planning to spend that much, here is one that's more representative of a $20K 914: https://www.ebay.com/itm/133776236120?hash=item1f25af5e58%3Ag%3AKD0AAOSw6m1gtDa%7E&nma=true&si=k1xlrKyRIamqCCJmeV4vvQWgaPs%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
It will take some time but keep looking - the right one is out there.
Ron
At $20K it should be immaculate. Way too crusty (and thrashed). Interior stuff is cheap, so don't be swayed by a pretty interior. The paint bubbles and door gaps are a flashing warning sign. I'd call it up to a $10k car, but that's relative to my market and experience. You need to get it on a lift and get a PPI if you're serious.
Honestly looks like lots of stuff done in a hurry, and / or without experience. Bolts sticking out they shouldn't be any.
As Andy mentioned, warped metal most likely from a previous repair that was not braced.
Lot's of little details that are not right all the way down to the decals.
I'd avoid it. 10k is generous and I wouldn't offer 1/2 of that.
Thanks so much for much needed honest advice!
I love this forum.
BTW, I should probably start a WTB thread :-)!
Take your time and look around, I recently found a West coast car advertised as a "rust free project'. I made the purchase sight unseen and it arrived a few weeks later. Worth the wait for sure. There was an engine and trans shipped separately, supposedly the engine "needed rebuild". I got the engine running a few weeks ago on the bench, seems fine.
Sure rust projects can be completed, but try to find a reasonably solid example.
It's very worth it to spend the money to have a dry car shipped than spend the time and money to fix a rusted out tub. I got lucky with my current one... sold new through Beverly Hills Porsche and stayed there for decades. Even that relatively dry car still needed a lot of fabrication and welding.
I am learning more and more about the 914's structure and what specifically to look for. Like longitudinal rusts along with the battery run off hole, etc. The door gaps was the latest lesson I have learned here that saved me from this vehicle. Glad I posted pics and asked my fellow 914world members before pulling the trigger.
Also, never thought about bringing a cardboard with me to check out cars (duh, such an obvious solution)!
Thanks!
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