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Posted by: gms Jan 1 2022, 12:18 PM
My friend bought this back in September 2020...thanks for not making me buy this one Ben.
This was a signal orange car originally delivered to LA CA, I believe it lived it life in So Cal.
Posted by: gms Jan 1 2022, 12:30 PM
I have seen few chassis as nice as this one
Posted by: gms Jan 1 2022, 12:34 PM
the plating is still on the brake sheilds 
Posted by: gms Jan 1 2022, 12:35 PM
look at this! 
Posted by: eric9144 Jan 1 2022, 12:39 PM
Interesting carpet in that trunk, never seen anything like that!
Happy new year Glenn!
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Posted by: gms Jan 1 2022, 12:44 PM
Interesting carpet in that trunk, never seen anything like that!
Happy new year Glenn!
makes you want to cuddle up and sleep in there
Happy New Year Eric!
Posted by: gms Jan 1 2022, 12:46 PM
Ben will be restoring this car as a stock side -6. If you have interest in the chalon parts let me know
Posted by: Superhawk996 Jan 1 2022, 12:48 PM
Will be awesome to see it return to normal!
Keep the pictures of this project coming.
Posted by: Root_Werks Jan 1 2022, 03:12 PM
Looks like a very solid chassis, nice score! This is going to be a fun thread to follow.
Posted by: Shivers Jan 1 2022, 03:20 PM
Hahaha, that is soooo 80's. Even the paint scheme. 
Nice to see it going steel...Congrats
look at this!
Posted by: sixnotfour Jan 1 2022, 03:56 PM
Pimped Out 914-6
Posted by: Cairo94507 Jan 1 2022, 04:15 PM
That Six is going to be a very happy Six! 
Posted by: emerygt350 Jan 1 2022, 04:20 PM
Oh the horror!
Posted by: FlacaProductions Jan 1 2022, 06:39 PM
Oh the horror!
HA!!
Posted by: rick 918-S Jan 1 2022, 06:55 PM
Posted by: Mikey914 Jan 1 2022, 07:11 PM
Good bones to start with. 5 lug Fuchs, you are so far ahead on this one! I'd be you wind up driving it this summer.
Posted by: KELTY360 Jan 1 2022, 07:40 PM
Kinda shows how little respect the 914 got in the 80’s.
Posted by: emerygt350 Jan 2 2022, 07:08 AM
The wheels look messed up in the photo. Did they put both front rims on one side? Should be a wide lipped rim on the back (not that it matters now).
Posted by: rick 918-S Jan 2 2022, 11:57 AM
Kinda shows how little respect the 914 got in the 80’s.
I am of the mind that the Chalon was a cool conversion body for the time. But real 6's are coming into their own now and a change back to stock sheet metal makes perfect sense.
Posted by: Maltese Falcon Jan 2 2022, 12:03 PM
Interesting carpet in that trunk, never seen anything like that!
Happy new year Glenn!
makes you want to cuddle up and sleep in there
Happy New Year Eric!
Posted by: PaulFV8 Jan 2 2022, 12:31 PM
I almost bid on this car. So much better than the rust bucket I bought 
Posted by: brant Jan 2 2022, 12:42 PM
Nice!
Posted by: brant Jan 2 2022, 12:43 PM
Nice!
Posted by: brant Jan 2 2022, 12:44 PM
Duplicate
Posted by: Chris H. Jan 2 2022, 01:24 PM
That looks a lot like a Chalon that was in VW & Porsche Magazine in the 80's.
A well done Chalon is nice..but a real 6 Chalon should be put back to stock. If only Glenn had a hoard of NOS body panels... 
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Posted by: gms Jan 2 2022, 02:16 PM
That looks a lot like a Chalon that was in VW & Porsche Magazine in the 80's.
Chris that is the car
Posted by: Chris H. Jan 2 2022, 05:06 PM
No kidding...I MIGHT have that issue somewhere. If I find it you can have it.
Posted by: gms Jan 2 2022, 05:49 PM
The wheels look messed up in the photo. Did they put both front rims on one side? Should be a wide lipped rim on the back (not that it matters now).
The car has 7" wheels all around, this is not unusual.
With a nice paint job and unbroken fiberglass the chalon kit can look nice ( like your car) however this is a 914-6 originally signal orange that needs bodywork so it is time to go back to stock. Ben will spend money while increasing the value of the car as opposed to restoring the chalon kit and not getting the full potential value.
Posted by: emerygt350 Jan 2 2022, 07:10 PM
You never know... Someday a chalon might be just as interesting to collectors as stock. As the generations turn over that Memorex 80s look might be of interest, particularly for those who grew up in the 80s.
Not saying that should stop you from capitalizing on current fads and definitely stock is the safe bet for future value.
And if that carpet in the frunk needs a new home, pm me.
Posted by: Bartlett 914 Jan 3 2022, 01:47 PM
Putting this back to stock will make the most sense. The value of the car will be greatly improved. The chalon kit belongs on a 4 cylinder car. I am not sure how hard it would be to save it.
Posted by: mrholland2 Jan 3 2022, 02:37 PM
You never know... Someday a chalon might be just as interesting to collectors as stock. As the generations turn over that Memorex 80s look might be of interest, particularly for those who grew up in the 80s.
Not saying that should stop you from capitalizing on current fads and definitely stock is the safe bet for future value.
And if that carpet in the frunk needs a new home, pm me.
I started driving in 1981 and the only 80s stuff that is "cool" is stock 80s stuff. Butchering a pre-80s car is like putting 2" baseboards in a California Craftsman house. *shudders*
Posted by: thomasotten Jan 3 2022, 06:28 PM
If that is the Chalon car from the magazine add, might want to keep it a Chalon. I would never make a Chalon today, but back in the 80's I used to love the car in the VW & Porsche magazines. Too bad it was done to an original 6 car. But do whatever you want to do. It's your car.
Posted by: emerygt350 Jan 3 2022, 06:44 PM
You never know... Someday a chalon might be just as interesting to collectors as stock. As the generations turn over that Memorex 80s look might be of interest, particularly for those who grew up in the 80s.
Not saying that should stop you from capitalizing on current fads and definitely stock is the safe bet for future value.
And if that carpet in the frunk needs a new home, pm me.
I started driving in 1981 and the only 80s stuff that is "cool" is stock 80s stuff. Butchering a pre-80s car is like putting 2" baseboards in a California Craftsman house. *shudders*
Yes, sure, a stock 160 hp V8 is the only cool 80s </sarcasm>.
This isn't stock 80s, this is making an odd duck from 70 look like a real Porsche you might like to drive in 1984. It is just another moment in car history and tastes. Right now the guys with bank buying mint stock 914s are all in their late 50s to 60s, they were 10 in 1974 and 1964. They are chasing the aesthetic from their childhood. The 80s are now starting to bump up in price as that generation starts in with some extra income. It will be interesting to see how they feel about it. Particularly after all the chalons have been _fixed_ and therefore quite rare.
Posted by: AZBanks Jan 4 2022, 12:17 AM
Putting this back to stock will make the most sense. The value of the car will be greatly improved. The chalon kit belongs on a 8 cylinder car. I am not sure how hard it would be to save it.
Fixed it for you.
I think a Chalon kit with a Gale Banks twin turbo SBC is just the ticket.
Posted by: Bartlett 914 Jan 4 2022, 10:05 AM
Putting this back to stock will make the most sense. The value of the car will be greatly improved. The chalon kit belongs on a 8 cylinder car. I am not sure how hard it would be to save it.
Fixed it for you.
I think a Chalon kit with a Gale Banks twin turbo SBC is just the ticket.
LOL Thanks!
Posted by: Chris H. Jan 11 2022, 01:07 PM
Haven't found the issue in my stash yetyet, but it looks like it's August 1980....
Link:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/304128198536?hash=item46cf740788:g:VN8AAOSw0jdhLnRp
EDIT: OK who bought it LOL?
Posted by: jd74914 Jan 11 2022, 02:35 PM
You never know... Someday a chalon might be just as interesting to collectors as stock. As the generations turn over that Memorex 80s look might be of interest, particularly for those who grew up in the 80s.
Not saying that should stop you from capitalizing on current fads and definitely stock is the safe bet for future value.
And if that carpet in the frunk needs a new home, pm me.
I started driving in 1981 and the only 80s stuff that is "cool" is stock 80s stuff. Butchering a pre-80s car is like putting 2" baseboards in a California Craftsman house. *shudders*
Two inch bungalow baseboards don't bother me...though I did just spend absurd amounts of time milling custom baseboard to match my existing circa-1790 trim.
It is too bad this was a /6 though, would have been a neat historical conversion car to own.
Posted by: emerygt350 Jan 11 2022, 03:42 PM
Had to buy that mag. I will post more when it arrives but I thought these two gems were awesome.
Posted by: infraredcalvin Jan 12 2022, 01:34 AM
Does it still have the “Chalon1” plate? Document the hell out of the resto, keep the plate on it. Legit history!
Posted by: JeffBowlsby Jan 12 2022, 04:52 PM
….The chalon kit belongs on a 4 cylinder car.
I don’t get that sentiment. /4s are not respected enough even now to be kept original? Many of us here love our /4s factory stock for what they are and would not consider a body kit of any type for even a millisecond.
Posted by: wonkipop Jan 12 2022, 05:31 PM
….The chalon kit belongs on a 4 cylinder car.
I don’t get that sentiment. /4s are not respected enough even now to be kept original? Many of us here love our /4s factory stock for what they are and would not consider a body kit of any type for even a millisecond.
but i do like @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=25740 's dedication to his chalon. its a curious bit of history as well.
more recently i have developed affection for the look of the very very early 4s.
with the body painted bumpers and trim pieces. real minimalism. avante garde stuff for 69/70 when you look at what the rest of the world was doing. the sixes did not appear to have been marketed with that abrupt aesthetic lack of sentiment? (except maybe the 916s).
if i had enough spare loot i think i would like a second 914 and it would definitely be one of those early 4s.
Posted by: flyer86d Jan 12 2022, 06:16 PM
….The chalon kit belongs on a 4 cylinder car.
I don’t get that sentiment. /4s are not respected enough even now to be kept original? Many of us here love our /4s factory stock for what they are and would not consider a body kit of any type for even a millisecond.
but i do like @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=25740 's dedication to his chalon. its a curious bit of history as well.
more recently i have developed affection for the look of the very very early 4s.
with the body painted bumpers and trim pieces. real minimalism. avante garde stuff for 69/70 when you look at what the rest of the world was doing. the sixes did not appear to have been marketed with that abrupt aesthetic lack of sentiment? (except maybe the 916s).
if i had enough spare loot i think i would like a second 914 and it would definitely be one of those early 4s.
I agree. My sister had a 1970 non-appearance group car in Irish Green. Great look!
Charlie
Posted by: emerygt350 Jan 12 2022, 07:16 PM
I now appreciate the look of a stock 914, but I also like the awesomeness that is an extra 15" width and super car proportions of the chalon . How many young people (and strangely enough 60 year old women) walk up to you and say "that car is SICK!" when you pull up in your stock 914 at Wegmans? For me it is daily and surprising if it doesn't happen. There is just something about the chalon. Perhaps Porsche and narp folk may not see but dude, there is something there.
We can have both, however we can't go back. Nobody should be chaloning their 914 today. However, if you do have one, I might think about keeping it that way. Just for the 80s sake. Tastes are a fickle thing. Still a 914/6 is gonna go stock, I accept that.
Posted by: AZBanks Jan 12 2022, 09:32 PM
There is just something about the chalon. Perhaps Porsche and narp folk may not see but dude, there is something there.
We can have both, however we can't go back. Nobody should be chaloning their 914 today. However, if you do have one, I might think about keeping it that way. Just for the 80s sake. Tastes are a fickle thing. Still a 914/6 is gonna go stock, I accept that.
All of the quarters and fenders on my project car have lots of bondo. It is easier and cheaper for me to remove them and replace them with a Chalon kit. This project is not going to be stock. It is getting an 80's engine so why not an 80's style body kit.
Posted by: djway Jan 12 2022, 10:11 PM
I remember the first Chalon I ever saw was on the TV show Alice. Red and I think it also had the whale tale.
The story line was a wife got mad and sold it for twenty dollars.
Season 7 episode 14
I can't find a picture
Posted by: carr914 Jan 13 2022, 05:01 AM
There is just something about the chalon. Perhaps Porsche and narp folk may not see but dude, there is something there.
a Chalon is about the only variation I haven't owned but I have been tempted.
Posted by: wonkipop Jan 13 2022, 05:33 AM
lets face it, @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=25740 , has the chick magnet car.
a mate of mine has a slope nose turbo that he imported from alaska more than a quarter of a century ago. doesn't have its slope nose anymore thanks to a kangaroo.
(apparently the bits are hard to get). but its still got the vented swollen rear guards.
he said the pop up headlights used to shake at night anyway.
like emery he has noted chicks of a certain age go all gooey at the sight of it.
i think the chalon is in the groove with the slope nose.
which to my way of thinking is not a bad thing.
Posted by: Shivers Jan 13 2022, 06:56 AM
Imagine it's 1982, you just got a 1972 914-4 1.7 with FI (funky injection). You pull up to Alosta and Grand Ave. in Glendora, Ca. And to the left of you, making a right past you is a 350 sbc powered guards red Chalon. Sun was shining and the car was beautiful. He nods his head and rev's the crap out of it and is gone. Well for the next 10 years fought of the urge on both the body kit and the V8, but the Chalon was never far from my thoughts. If that is what you like, it's ok with me...
Posted by: rgalla9146 Jan 13 2022, 10:17 AM
….The chalon kit belongs on a 4 cylinder car.
I don’t get that sentiment. /4s are not respected enough even now to be kept original? Many of us here love our /4s factory stock for what they are and would not consider a body kit of any type for even a millisecond.
but i do like @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=25740 's dedication to his chalon. its a curious bit of history as well.
more recently i have developed affection for the look of the very very early 4s.
with the body painted bumpers and trim pieces. real minimalism. avante garde stuff for 69/70 when you look at what the rest of the world was doing. the sixes did not appear to have been marketed with that abrupt aesthetic lack of sentiment? (except maybe the 916s).
if i had enough spare loot i think i would like a second 914 and it would definitely be one of those early 4s.
I agree. My sister had a 1970 non-appearance group car in Irish Green. Great look!
Charlie
No Chalon content but....
Early, simple and light with no appearance group BUT...... all added performance
features was my motto on this car.
I totally agree.... early cars are beautiful.
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Posted by: 73-914 Jan 13 2022, 10:24 AM
My opinion of a "Chalon" is if you want a 924 buy 1
Posted by: mepstein Jan 13 2022, 10:36 AM
….The chalon kit belongs on a 4 cylinder car.
I don’t get that sentiment. /4s are not respected enough even now to be kept original? Many of us here love our /4s factory stock for what they are and would not consider a body kit of any type for even a millisecond.
but i do like @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=25740 's dedication to his chalon. its a curious bit of history as well.
more recently i have developed affection for the look of the very very early 4s.
with the body painted bumpers and trim pieces. real minimalism. avante garde stuff for 69/70 when you look at what the rest of the world was doing. the sixes did not appear to have been marketed with that abrupt aesthetic lack of sentiment? (except maybe the 916s).
if i had enough spare loot i think i would like a second 914 and it would definitely be one of those early 4s.
I agree. My sister had a 1970 non-appearance group car in Irish Green. Great look!
Charlie
No Chalon content but....
Early, simple and light with no appearance group BUT...... all added performance
features was my motto on this car.
I totally agree.... early cars are beautiful.
I would say subtle over simple. I’ve read your build multiple times and always pick up a new custom touch.
Posted by: mb911 Jan 13 2022, 11:40 AM
I think the intent of this thread was for Glenn to share the progress of the project. Carry on Glenn.
Posted by: rgalla9146 Jan 13 2022, 05:53 PM
I think the intent of this thread was for Glenn to share the progress of the project. Carry on Glenn.
Hey Ben
Sorry for stepping on toes....was responding to some specific replies.
I'm always happy to see what Glenn is up to.
Coincidentally there is a modified body 914 6 for sale on this site now with parts to
make it stock again. Very clean body too.
Posted by: emerygt350 Jan 13 2022, 07:12 PM
I love the new title. I don't think it was a complete hijack though.
And it should be "on a 914/6"
Posted by: wonkipop Jan 13 2022, 07:31 PM
yeah - apologies.
i guess it shows though there is a bit of genuine interest around the chalon.
one thing is clear, @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=25740 is a custodian with affection/appreciation for them.
with whatever gets stripped off the 6 to return it to original state, emery should get first dibs on it. its not junk to throw away at the tip.
Posted by: Shivers Jan 13 2022, 07:49 PM
"People talking about the Chalon Kit on a 914"
hahaha, sorry about that Glen. 
If there was one to save it would be yours. But I am looking forward to seeing what you have planned.
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=1785
Posted by: infraredcalvin Jan 14 2022, 12:11 AM
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=1785 I hope you continue posting the resto of this car back to its original body. I am really interested in seeing the deconstruction of the chalon kit as I’m curious how it was done, especially one that has magazine provenance…
Posted by: Maltese Falcon Jan 14 2022, 01:46 AM
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=1785 I hope you continue posting the resto of this car back to its original body. I am really interested in seeing the deconstruction of the chalon kit as I’m curious how it was done, especially one that has magazine provenance…
Chalon kits were made in the L.A. Mitcom factory, brainchild of Allan Mittleman. Allan also supplied 911 guys all the lightweight fiberglass body panels.
Dan McLoughlin of A.I.R. nearby in Burbank, was the other 911/ 935 mfg of lightweight body work in the 70/80/90's...and did build the John Bond (magazine publisher) 914 wide body/ 930 power car
The body panels on the Altec-Lansing black 914 look similar to the Bond prototype 914.
Posted by: gms Jan 14 2022, 12:18 PM
I have changed the name of this thread because there seems to be a lot of people who have to express their opinion about the Chalon kit. I will start another thread about the build when there is something new to report.
carry on with your love or hate of the Chalon kit
Posted by: AZBanks Jan 15 2022, 01:55 AM
My opinion of a "Chalon" is if you want a 924 buy 1
924???
The Chalon looks nothing like a 924.
It does look a lot like a slant nose 911 turbo.
Posted by: gms Jan 15 2022, 10:53 AM
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=357637
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Posted by: emerygt350 Jan 15 2022, 11:23 AM
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=357637
Man, just give me the motor ....
That's the first chalon 9 have seen with my air damn.
Posted by: barefoot Jan 16 2022, 03:59 PM
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=357637
Man, just give me the motor ....
That's the first chalon 9 have seen with my air damn.
Not sure what your air damn is ??
mine:
Posted by: emerygt350 Jan 16 2022, 06:42 PM
Mine have the fake black rubber front and back.
It's that 935ish look with the longitudinal slats that I rarely see vs the tucked under with exposed fog lights.
Posted by: emerygt350 Jan 18 2022, 09:42 AM
Here is the rest of that article for those who may be interested.
Does this car still have that interesting console?
Posted by: mrholland2 Jan 18 2022, 10:30 AM
You never know... Someday a chalon might be just as interesting to collectors as stock. As the generations turn over that Memorex 80s look might be of interest, particularly for those who grew up in the 80s.
Not saying that should stop you from capitalizing on current fads and definitely stock is the safe bet for future value.
And if that carpet in the frunk needs a new home, pm me.
I started driving in 1981 and the only 80s stuff that is "cool" is stock 80s stuff. Butchering a pre-80s car is like putting 2" baseboards in a California Craftsman house. *shudders*
Yes, sure, a stock 160 hp V8 is the only cool 80s </sarcasm>.
This isn't stock 80s, this is making an odd duck from 70 look like a real Porsche you might like to drive in 1984. It is just another moment in car history and tastes. Right now the guys with bank buying mint stock 914s are all in their late 50s to 60s, they were 10 in 1974 and 1964. They are chasing the aesthetic from their childhood. The 80s are now starting to bump up in price as that generation starts in with some extra income. It will be interesting to see how they feel about it. Particularly after all the chalons have been _fixed_ and therefore quite rare.
That's not what I was saying. I was saying that the 80s look doesn't look good on pre-80s cars. (Referring to the paint scheme in this case).
Posted by: barefoot Jan 19 2022, 08:34 AM
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=357637
Looks like Chalon did 2 quite different front chin spoiler versions:
This apparently earlier version shown here same as in Chalon literature:
And a later one with cut-out for fog lights and open center shown here Not sure how many of either were produced:
Posted by: siverson Jan 23 2022, 02:08 PM
In my office…
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Posted by: gms Jan 23 2022, 03:57 PM
Does this car still have that interesting console?
yes
Posted by: emerygt350 Jan 23 2022, 06:23 PM
That is really cool! What a different look. Anyone seen a console like that?
That radio fits too.
Posted by: Gary Jan 23 2022, 08:31 PM
That is really cool! What a different look. Anyone seen a console like that?
That radio fits too.
The console looks like an aftermarket amco: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&showtopic=204998&view=findpost&p=1826528
Posted by: emerygt350 Jan 24 2022, 10:22 AM
In my office…
Did you read the article on putting that weber 2 barrel on your 914? Some things never change....
Posted by: Mark Henry Jan 24 2022, 03:32 PM
Anyone who wants to do this I know where there's a full chalon kit...likely very cheap.
I also know where the laser 917 molds are....but the last time I talked to the guy he wanted $20K for everything.
Posted by: emerygt350 Jan 24 2022, 05:30 PM
I know a guy with a 917 kit, he wants 2800 for it. Soooo tempting.
Posted by: watsonrx13 Jan 26 2022, 07:18 AM
That would be a cool project.
Posted by: Mark Henry Jan 26 2022, 10:24 AM
There was a guy who had a laser 917 and he re-worked the body to look more like a real 917. He also built a tube chassis, suspension, etc like the 917 and it was powered by a big /6.
Cool build.
Posted by: mepstein Jan 26 2022, 11:38 AM
I would love to have one. I would drive it to every PCA event and call it a prototype.
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