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Posted by: PanelBilly Jan 16 2022, 10:59 AM

Went to breakfast with the PCA folks yesterday and rode in my friend’s 2008 Cayman. After spending 2 hours in the car I concluded that it wasn’t the car for me. I had thought that adding a newer pcar to the family would be fun and that the older midengine would be a smart choice. It just didn’t make me smile like the 914. When we were done with breakfast the line of cars all looked alike. I noticed that people notice more about the color of these cars than the lines of the body. No visual excitement

I need to get my locks fixed and get my car back on the road!

Posted by: Superhawk996 Jan 16 2022, 11:12 AM

Welcome to modern automobiles.

Porsche's used to be distinct. Both to the rest of the automotive world and also within the brand. They were so distinct, even my wife could ID them by visual appearance.

Now at 1/8 mile I can't tell a Cayman from a 911 from a Macan from a Panamera.

After 25 years in the industry, I love the 914 even more for what it is. Even more for the fact that it is everything a modern car isn't.

Posted by: slivel Jan 16 2022, 11:29 AM

I've got one of each - 14 CS and 75 914/6 conversion. Only thing in common is that they both are mid-engine. I love them both but for different reasons. My 914 is loud and brash and beats me up a bit but always brings a smile to my face. Long drives are not what I do in this car. The Cayman is refined and certainly more modern and excells at being athletic while also being enjoyable on long drives, especially when you want to wring it out in the twisties for a time and then relax and just enjoy the scenery. I'm not tempted to part with either one of them.

Posted by: Cairo94507 Jan 16 2022, 11:48 AM

That is one low Cayman! I like both of your cars. I have always thought the Cayman was a great "evolved" 914. I think it may be the best platform Porsche has developed.

Posted by: davehg Jan 16 2022, 02:31 PM

I love the look of the original Cayman S, and the new GT4 RS is pretty awesome too, and a relative bargain at $150k compared to the 911 version.

But I agree with Billy - the old cars are what I like to drive.

I drove a 997.1 fully expecting to write a check. It was fast and competent but it didn’t light up my brain the way the 914 did.

After a few years of tire kicking, I just committed to a one owner 1974 911s. The PCA unwashed warned me about the 2.7 issues, not understanding that the 74 had none of the smog stuff of the 75-77 cars. The car is everything a 997.1 is not and I love how the older cars handle, feel, and sound.

Posted by: Spoke Jan 16 2022, 02:50 PM

I had my 71 914 at the Pittsburgh Historic Grand Prix car show last July and there were only a couple of 914s out of the approximately 200 Porsche's. Many people stopped by to look at my 914 whereas most of the cars were newer models, most w/o that pesky 3rd peddle for the clutch. You could look down the rows of new Porsche's and they all looked the same. The older 911's and 914's really stood out.

Posted by: mlindner Jan 16 2022, 03:59 PM

PanelBeilly, I've had a 2007 Cayman S for the last five years after having a 1998 993 Cararra S for 18 years. My 914-6 GT Tribute got on the road this last summer and is a blast.....but not a Cayman... did you drive it and at speed, just a great car. Is it better than my GT-6? No, just a better version of it. Best, Mark

Posted by: Cal Jan 16 2022, 04:58 PM

Comparing the 914 and the Cayman is like comparing apples and oranges….both cars are entertaining for different reasons. I happen to have a ‘74 2.0L and an ‘08 Cayman and enjoy them for different reasons. I love the 914 for it’s character/ uniqueness and design along with the old school air-cooled engine. The Cayman, while much newer, is a beautiful design and has much more character than anything else at the price point. Living in NE the Cayman affords me the opportunity to enjoy a newer mid-engine Porsche more frequently throughout the year. If you’d like to see what the potential of a 987 Cayman is you should attend a track day and have a PCA instructor take you out for a hot lap….your option might change.


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Posted by: roblav1 Jan 16 2022, 05:05 PM

I miss my 2008 Cayman. On one trip, left ABQ NM at 5:00 PM and arrived in Suffolk, VA 1.5 days later at 5:00 AM. Lost 2 hours in time zone change too. 29 mpg average. Couldn't do that in a 914!

Of the modern Porsches, the early 5 speed base Cayman feels the most like early cars.

Posted by: roblav1 Jan 16 2022, 05:16 PM

At one point, I had both these. I sold the 12K mile 40th Anniversary 911 because I preferred the base Cayman. And I still love my 914 GT all the same!


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Posted by: Root_Werks Jan 16 2022, 06:03 PM

That's a good assessment Billy, thanks.

I've always like the look and lines of a Cayman. Never had any seat time in one though.

I need another car like I need another hole in my head.

Posted by: worn Jan 16 2022, 06:25 PM

I have thought about Cayman Comfort, but for long drives the 914 is tough to beat. Luggage space like a SUV. Seats that work for my several damaged vertebrae and discs. Fun to drive. Good range. The 4 cylinder teener has taken me to both Rt 66 and Ockteenerfest. I drove it home from Baltimore with a very messed up fuel pressure regulator. The 3.2 has taken me to West Coast Ramble and Rt 66.

I am old. Real old. But it seems like not old enough. Would like hot and cold running air though. The Caymans may not look as cool as a 914, but they look cool to me. Nother sight of age….

Posted by: Cracker Jan 16 2022, 09:43 PM

What most are describing, or lacking, is s-o-u-l. Although all versions of the newer cars are way more capable than the standard 914-6; they are almost too refined. I have tracked at speed nearly all of these and in my opinion the 981 has the most "soul" of these late model variants; and the highest limits. I agree, nothing beats an old car in feeding the senses right down to your ass...

Cracker

Posted by: Jamie Jan 16 2022, 10:04 PM

I consider my 2008 base Cayman to be an evolution of the 914 design had it remained in production. The Cayman is most certainly more reliable and comfortable for distance travel, and my Cayenne diesel an even better improvement for serious daily use and long distance travel. I'm fortunate to have this variety of Porsches, each a different driving experience and source of enjoyment of ownership.

Posted by: emerygt350 Jan 16 2022, 10:10 PM

There is something to being able to redline gear after gear through corners and on the straights.. all the way up to 70? all day that makes a 914 so much fun. Try and drive a modern car like that and you get arrested or dead.

Posted by: VegasRacer Jan 16 2022, 11:00 PM

I am surprised (and a little disappointed) that you didn't like the Cayman Billy.
If you find something more engaging, plese let me know.




There is NOTHING like a 914 (with a flat 6) if you are seeking Permagrin.

Posted by: slivel Jan 17 2022, 12:43 PM

Agree with the flat 6 comment. Billy DID say that he rode in the car for 2 hours. I contend that if he were in the driver's seat for that length of time he might have a more favorable opinion of the Cayman platform. The six in the Cayman also sings a beautiful song.

Posted by: GeorgeRud Jan 17 2022, 12:52 PM

Unfortunately, I aged out of my 914-6s, so now have to ride in a Pig (958 Cayenne). I was fortunate enough to have several 914s and 911s over the years, and I think they’ve been losing that light feel and ‘soul’ since the early 70s. A good friend has a Cayman and a ‘72 911, and he often feels the same.

Posted by: PlaysWithCars Jan 19 2022, 12:40 AM

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=2332 I agree the only similarity is the mid engine. Otherwise the differences are black and white.
Seriously though, my buddy has a GT4 and its a respectable beast of a car, but too refined and not as engaging as my 914-6.

Posted by: wonkipop Jan 19 2022, 02:24 AM

with you on that. its the best thing they sell right now.

Posted by: KSCarrera Jan 20 2022, 05:55 AM

After selling my 912/6 hot-rod, I bought a 2014 Cayman. Loved it BUT it was too perfect, if you get what I mean. It did everything well, looked great, drove great but had no soul. Sold it after barely one year and bought my 914.

Great cars as daily drivers without a doubt, but just didn't have that character I wanted in a fun car...

Posted by: 914_teener Jan 20 2022, 04:03 PM

Not a fair comparison IMHO.

I've had both cars and the 987.2 is probably as good as it gets for a street fun car and touring car. An evolution of the 914.

They are both very different cars. I had a Soul exhaust on my 987.1 and let me tell you the seat of the pants above 5k is a whole nuther experience.

Carry on.

Posted by: Gatornapper Jan 21 2022, 09:16 PM

I have both, and if the 914 has SOUL, the 987.2 Cayman S has SPIRIT. My 2nd Cayman, closest thing there is to the perfect car.

C&D said if everyone in the world had a Cayman, there would be world peace.

Having both the 914 and 987.2 is the best of both worlds - they compliment each other in so many ways. Can drive either one all day. Not in city of course.

And more and more are saying the 987.2 was the peak of all Caymans, the last with hydraulic steering and road feel.

I'm so happy with both I have no plans to ever sell either.

GN

Posted by: VegasRacer Jan 21 2022, 10:56 PM

Amen brother. Amen.

Posted by: Shivers Jan 22 2022, 03:27 PM

The 917 was 1808 lbs, the Cayman is 1000+ lbs more. The early cars were different, really needed to be. Most didn't have 320 hp like the 987.2, they really were more like go-karts and less like supercars.