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Posted by: Jeff Bowlsby Jul 23 2003, 10:52 PM

So if we could have a source for every imaginable NLA 914 part...or bolt-on improved versions what would you want my brothah's and sistah's?

There have been some great items made up recently including Mueller suspension bearings and the RennsShifter...and the lenses and...

What else do we need? What can you contribute to this list? What would be first on your list?

Posted by: seanery Jul 23 2003, 10:55 PM

Visors!

Posted by: SirAndy Jul 23 2003, 11:12 PM

1) sets of complete vaccum hoses for the different type engines. with the right size fittings and diameters and quality (not the crap AA sells) ...

2) rubber rear trunk targa top holders that don't break after a week or two.

3) eletrical windhield washer pump plus updated water tank. (stock tank can be modified to work with electrical, btw.)

4) a AC (or heater) system that doesn't involve hacking the car into pieces.

Posted by: Brad Roberts Jul 23 2003, 11:21 PM

I actually asked Jon Lowe this same quesion 3-4 years ago. We came up with a list of "must haves" in the near future. One of them was the splash pan for the front suspension. Its has been NLA for a awhile now.

How about starting a thread that tells us what IS NLA and what is not.

Kinda like the BS being spewed about the 9146 tanks from a famous SoCal 914 parts pusher.


B

Posted by: Jeroen Jul 24 2003, 05:48 AM

Send your requests to PCNA or preferably Porsche AG
They are very active on the 'classic' department
When enough demand for certain parts exists, they'll take them back into production

Check the classic pages on the porsche.com website

Bottom line: if you don't drop them a line, they don't know and won't reproduce shit

cheers,

Jeroen

Posted by: Red-Beard Jul 24 2003, 06:04 AM

Oil lines for the 6. According to "The Bird", the are NLA from PCNA.

Posted by: tod914 Jul 24 2003, 07:28 AM

USA lenses, aux. air reg, side marker seals, black plastic threshold rivets, white plastic threshold rivets, (only clear is available), decel valve, white head lamp covers,
shift knob, visors, consoles, door panels, injector elbows, 70-72 rear bumper, 73-74 muffler bracket,cigar lighter cap (replacement is different), green fog cap. i'll add to this when i think of more.

Posted by: mskala Jul 24 2003, 07:47 AM

We need the rear targa top holders to be made out of the stuff
they used in 'stretch armstrong' the toy. There was no way to
break that thing Thin rubber with gooey stuff
inside, I think it would hold the top nicely.

Posted by: tat2dphreak Jul 24 2003, 07:54 AM

the "PORSCHE" center Lens(with elec. selenoid) and aftermarket center console would be nice...

Posted by: Aaron Cox Jul 24 2003, 09:23 AM

visors, some interior trim pieces, some exterior chrome, complete lock sets for a whole car....

Posted by: ninefourteener Jul 24 2003, 09:24 AM

I say bring back those ABS plastic rocker panels with the raised Porsche lettering.

I'd kill to find a set of those. I was bidding on a set on e-bay, and the owner cancelled the auction, sold it outright to someone else, and this is after I already asked him to do the same. I was kinda pissed.

Anyway, haven't seen another set since then.

Posted by: Qarl Jul 24 2003, 09:26 AM

I'm working on the foglight seals. I have the quote. I just have to get off my lazy ass and order them.

Posted by: StratPlayer Jul 24 2003, 09:40 AM

Heads good ones

Posted by: Alfred Jul 24 2003, 09:47 AM

Like Tod914 said, the Auxiliary Air Regulator for the 1.7L, 2.0L. Also, sodium filled exhaust valves that are listed as NLA in the 914 PET.

Alfred

Posted by: tat2dphreak Jul 24 2003, 10:15 AM

DUDE! I have a set of those on my parts car! PM me!

Posted by: tat2dphreak Jul 24 2003, 10:15 AM

and cheap dammit!

Posted by: ninefourteener Jul 24 2003, 10:38 AM

I just e-mailed you on Yahoo..... check your mail. I'll be back online this evening. Thanks!

Posted by: Brad Roberts Jul 24 2003, 11:37 AM

Almost everything listed so far Porsche didnt actually make (it was mostly outsourced) like Hella not making the lenses anymore...


B

Posted by: Jeroen Jul 24 2003, 02:29 PM

That's the whole problem...
You don't want new parts, you want cheap parts
Not gonna happen

cheers,

Jeroen

Posted by: tat2dphreak Jul 24 2003, 02:57 PM

you're right I would rather have *decent* parts that aren't extremely expensive than terrific parts I can't afford.

it's all in what you want to do with the car I suppose... if you just want a car that looks sweet and is a blast to burn up and down the roads... you aren't willing to pay 2000 on new heads... if you are into autox... 2k is nothing for new heads... esp. if they can win you a race or 2..

I'm a cheap SOB! I would also like to get a center console(even a reproduction) for less than 100...

Posted by: tod914 Jul 24 2003, 04:47 PM

Ah guess i found on my car today - a broken air pressure sensor. sure would be nice if those copper diaprams were available. Add that to the list

we ended up putting on some type of adhesive to repair the diaphram. hopefully it will hold up for abit.

Posted by: Jeff Bowlsby Jul 24 2003, 05:15 PM

And only abit. Carry a spare or be sure you have a cell phone on any drive. Those diaphragms take alot of stress.

Posted by: Bruce Allert Jul 24 2003, 05:18 PM

I can make the center consoles less gauges but not for less than $100... maybe right at $100.

tat2, I see you made a valient effort for that console on Ebay the other day. Was hoping you'd get it. I was gonna bid if it stayed low just to have one for duplication purposes. I wanna make a low armrest style console with drink holders to incorporate into the center console.
bruce

Posted by: tod914 Jul 24 2003, 06:33 PM

Bows, do u know of any1 who rebuilds them with a warranty? Or possibly know where to get the diaphram?

Posted by: vsg914 Jul 24 2003, 07:08 PM

Tat2d, I have three consoles with gauges. one for ac and two without.

Posted by: redshift Jul 24 2003, 07:29 PM

http://www.autosunvisors.com/

Under $70, shipped.

You are welcome.


M

Posted by: seanery Jul 24 2003, 07:51 PM

This link needs to be added somewhere easily accessible by all.

http://www.autosunvisors.com/


THANKS REDSHIFT!!

Posted by: vsg914 Jul 24 2003, 08:02 PM

Posted by: vsg914 Jul 24 2003, 08:09 PM

Bruce, You gonna reproduce the consoles? I'll donate one to the cause

Posted by: -P- Jul 24 2003, 08:47 PM

Hows the condition on the one for a/c? How much you want for it?

Posted by: vsg914 Jul 24 2003, 08:56 PM

P,
I'll get them down and blow the dust tomorrow and email you with the condition. One is very good, one is good, and one not so good. Not sure which is which.

Posted by: -P- Jul 24 2003, 08:58 PM

Sounds good. I appreciate it.

Posted by: Aaron Cox Jul 24 2003, 09:02 PM

ok..here is an idear...
everyone wants sunvisors right? so what if we did a bulk buy!!! get the price down for all!

whadda yall thinkizzle?

Posted by: KaptKaos Jul 24 2003, 09:49 PM

I gots me a set. If your deal falls through, let me know.

- Joe

Posted by: Bruce Allert Jul 24 2003, 10:46 PM

Hey there V, can't ask for much more than that... pretty darned cool of ya. Don't need anything special. A shitty old delapedated one would work fine as long as I can get a stencil off'n it. My Dad taught me how to do that French seam that's along the edge tops. I did one for myself just to put speakers in. I didn't use any seam, just stapled the flat work to the wood & did some neat folds. Let me know what the weight is and I'd send ya the shipping cost.
bruce


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Posted by: Bruce Allert Jul 24 2003, 10:47 PM

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Posted by: ThinAir914 Jul 25 2003, 12:17 AM

I learned some interesting stuff today about the challenges of getting parts for older vehicles.

I ordered new window rubber for my son's 1975 VW Bus. When I called to check on the order I learned that the rubber for the rear and center vent windows is not available anywhere on this planet. It seems that the only company that makes them is the same one that makes rubber for VWs new cars, but they make the vintage stuff between regular production runs when they have both the time and the urge. Unfortunately, their die broke awhile back so they haven't made this part in awhile. Since the demand can't possibly be as large as their regular market, who knows when they'll get the urge again.

When I asked about West Coast Metric I was told that their die broke even longer ago than the German manufacturer. WCM is probably the biggest reproduction rubber place around for VWs so if they haven't bothered to fix their die then it tells you something about the return on investment.

There are certainly opportunities out there for those who are equipped to take advantage of them, but the economics of it is probably pretty tough.

Posted by: vsg914 Jul 25 2003, 06:35 AM

Bruce, can you do the wood also, or just the covering. I am a cabinetmaker by trade and own my shop. We can fabricate anything in wood, but vinyl is foreign to me.

Oh yeah, email your address and I'll get it out.

P, I'll email a pic. If its not in good shape, maybe bruce can recover it for you?

Posted by: Bruce Allert Jul 25 2003, 07:34 AM

Can do wood V. Can't remember if I used 1/4" or 3/8' plywood for the one pictured. Since all the angles are straight cuts I'm in Fat City! Just picked up a great little Craftsman table saw at a garage sale too... $25 With a little more practice these should go relatively fast. The vinyl now adays works great when it's warm.
bruce

Posted by: tat2dphreak Jul 25 2003, 07:37 AM

I was gunning for it... but he who bids last...Wins! I was up with 20 seconds to go and he bid again... evidently with a pretty high bid.

I PM'd VSG though, I may get lucky yet! I may get with you if one needs recovering... seems like you are the man!

if that doesn't work out I may try to build one out of aluminum for my car... to fit with the brushed aluminum doorpanels and gauge plate...

Posted by: Bruce Allert Jul 25 2003, 10:42 AM

Now THAT would look cool. A matched set of brushed al-you-mainium interior. Got any pics of the interior now?
bruce

Posted by: tat2dphreak Jul 25 2003, 11:07 AM

still in the works... it's just plans right now I plan to replace the basket weave on the doors with Brushed AL.. and leave the top smooth pad, on the dash face I plan to strip the basket weave off and leave it glassy black, and fashion a gauge plate out of aluminum too...

the thick aluminum I bought turned out to be MONEL! which means it wouldn't cut with my light weight plasma cutter(barely scratched!) and an OXY/ACE setup took forever to get it hot and then it melted a huge hole instead of a tiny one. so, I need to find some more thickish(1/8th-3/16") aluminum for the pedal board and possibly the console... or I may just buy a GOOD Jigsaw and a TON of blades and cut up the MONEL! that might look cool, but I would be afraid it would tarnish easier since it's mostly Nickel...

Bruce since you are THE console man... would you be interested in making a console with MONEL sides and black metal face? if so, how much?

Posted by: Brad Roberts Jul 25 2003, 11:22 AM

Ernie nailed it. We want everything and we want it for free.

I personally want to do the 9146 stainless HE's because I'm a 914 guy.. but if the sales numbers dont match up to the tooling costs, it doesnt make sense to build them. Sure.. we will sell 20-30 right off the bat for half the price of the B+B's.. but I need to sell 300-400 of them over a year or so. We would probably do run of a 1000 and then not build any for 3-4 years. The number of 9146's still around and the number of conversion cars we could sell product to doesnt really make good business sense.


B

Posted by: rdauenhauer Jul 25 2003, 12:01 PM

Brad what do you think about the economics or reproducing the OE bannana Muffler in SS?

Posted by: Rockaria Jul 25 2003, 02:30 PM

On Visors and interior parts. I found a local Upolstery shop that did my car interior completely for less than $500 bucks and it looks and wears just as good, if not better, than the original.

Then a few months later I took them a set of my old Sun Visors and they did a perfect job in redoing them and for Less than $50 each.... If I wanted leather $100 each. These are guarenteed not to BLOWFISH on you. Even the new or good looking 914 visors I see will BLOWFISH the first time the temp is over 90 degrees.

So I always look locally before I bend over to let some places have access to my wallet. Usually they do a Kobe on you when getting the money!

Posted by: tat2dphreak Jul 25 2003, 02:40 PM

pics?!

"do a Kobe" LMMFAO!!!

Posted by: Bruce Allert Jul 25 2003, 02:45 PM

tat2... if you can't cut the Monel I don't know how I could. Not really into metal (just Heavy Metal ) It'd prolly look really cool. I can't even imagine how I'd stick it together!

Rockaria, If you went South of the border to get the Upholstery done there's a good chance everything was stuffed with cow or horse shit! At least that's what they used to do in the 60's. Cheap upholstery that had an o'dure
I'm sure you have a really good job and for $500 you got a deal.
bruce

Posted by: Brad Roberts Jul 25 2003, 02:54 PM

Rich.. the muffler will happen. The 911 and 914 use the exact same banana with different inlet locations/flanges but the same outlet in slightly different locations.

Its number two on the "hot list" I cant say what number 1 is but it has to do with 911's.


B

Posted by: seanery Jul 25 2003, 02:56 PM

I contacted the link above for the visor replacement.
They will do repairs only to ours and have no replacement for it.
No price until they actually have yours in their dirty litte hands.

Posted by: tat2dphreak Jul 25 2003, 03:03 PM

it cuts with a blade fine(jigsaw/sawsall) just not with plasma(which would mke the job easy)... screws/bolts should hold it fine. I'm assuming the support hardware(brackets etc.) would be the same. don't worry about it though... I'll get som aluminium from onlinemetal.com (unless someone knows a cheaper place) and do it... do you think a 3'x4' piece is big enough for the 2 side pieces? how thick does it need to be(minimum)? I'm thinking 1/8" is thick enough.

Posted by: Bruce Allert Jul 25 2003, 03:17 PM

1/8th " should be more than enough. Aluminum would be the best way to go for weight.
bruce

Posted by: Rockaria Jul 25 2003, 03:53 PM

Well I am 40 miles from the border, But the place I found was cool and in the USA. The owner was really nice. So No Manure there... The shop had a sign "We Speak English" I think its the only upolstery shop around that does.

Here is a pic and link to more pics of the visor job:



http://www.rockaria.com/914/

You can see my interior at my cars web site with the link on the bottom of the page.

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Now that I recall I did not have the door pannels done since I had a set already that looked just fine. But door panels just about anyone can do. So it was just around $500 for the two seats, backpad, and center cussion.

Posted by: seanery Jul 25 2003, 04:04 PM

Are those your seats and backpad?
They look nice.
Is the PORSCHE screened or embroidered?

Posted by: Rockaria Jul 25 2003, 04:11 PM

Yes those are my seats and pad I had done locally. More pics at my cars site. This guy did a super job. The Porsche emblem is actually a vinyl sticker a friend of mine did for me. It's done with a special smoke see-through vinyl they use to emulate glass etching. I have had it on for six months and it is still perfect even in the 110 degree hot southwestern days.

Posted by: tod914 Jul 25 2003, 04:39 PM

very nice and tastfully done.

Posted by: Bleyseng Jul 25 2003, 04:59 PM

Somebody make the MPS replacement diaphrams! Hint-Brad!!!!

They would be worth it at $75-100 a piece!


Recalibrating a MPS is pretty easy but not with a blown diaphram.


Geoff

Posted by: Brad Roberts Jul 25 2003, 05:10 PM

I need a good one to start with.


B

Posted by: rdauenhauer Jul 25 2003, 05:21 PM

I have a couple on the shelf , if Geoff will test um Ill offer up a good unit
for mock up.

Posted by: Brad Roberts Jul 25 2003, 05:23 PM

Lets chat at JRust (if your going)

It would be a pretty simple project.


B

Posted by: Bleyseng Jul 25 2003, 05:26 PM

I can mail you one too.

Geoff

Posted by: Huey1092 Jul 25 2003, 11:16 PM

If you are looking to build a console for your car, the 914 Club France has posted the plans on their website, along with dimensional drawings and construction details.

Not sure how to put in the link here but their address is http://914france

Look in "Technique," then "constr.....votre console centrale" and it gives the whole thing. Its in french and the dimensions are metric.

Found the link some time ago and printed out the instructions but haven't built one yet as mine is still serviceable.

Hope this helps!

Cheers

Posted by: Bruce Allert Jul 25 2003, 11:32 PM

Thanks Huey, I have those plans too. It is just better to have an actual console to see how the stiching is arranged on the pieces. Also using an original for a jig allows for no mis-interpretations of written instructions (as I am so prone to do)
bruce

Posted by: redshift Jul 25 2003, 11:51 PM

Did someone say Kobe?