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914World.com _ 914World Garage _ Workshop Day at the Red Barn: Saturday, April 9

Posted by: tygaboy Mar 24 2022, 08:57 AM

Hi World - It's been a minute since we last had a Red Barn Workshop so I figured it's time!
- Saturday, April 9, rain or shine

As you enter our lane and pass the first house, WATCH OUT FOR THE SPEED BUMP!!

914 World has done so much for me, this is my small way of trying to pay back this wonderful community.

Feel free to arrive any time after 7:00 AM. I'm OK going until 5:00 PM or so, longer if needed. I will PM my address and contact info to confirmed and tentative attendees.

I'm happy to help you with whatever I can. Maybe you need a part welded, maybe you have a custom bracket you'd like fabricated, maybe you're @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=2104 and we can finally make your hood vent, Andy! poke.gif

There are no $ charges for anything. My tools are you're tools. If you have a 2D part that I could draw up and cut on the plama table, this is your chance!
Need some welding done? (Be reasonable, please.) We can make it happen!

If you plan to use tools or make something, please PM me and let me know some details so I can be prepared. Particularly if you need any CAD work done. I'd like to have that ready to go when you get here.

Now, if you're just looking to hang with some like-minded folks and check out some cool cars, that's perfect, too. Come on over! And I'm betting there will be a sighting of Bill's Speedster!

There's a great BBQ place right around the corner so lunch is close - and delicious.

To get you in the mood, here are links to previous Workshops:
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=337633&hl=workshop
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=326533&hl=workshop


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Posted by: tygaboy Mar 24 2022, 09:01 AM

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=9712 @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=11529 @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=22920 @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=26158
I hope to see you here!

Posted by: tygaboy Mar 24 2022, 09:02 AM

And you guys: @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=15327 @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=3898 @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=20897 @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=179

Posted by: tygaboy Mar 24 2022, 09:03 AM

Hey @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=23905 @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=24202 @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=7784 will we see you here?

Posted by: markhoward Mar 24 2022, 09:03 AM

Looking forward to it!

Posted by: napasteve Mar 24 2022, 09:06 AM

On the calendar!

Posted by: SirAndy Mar 24 2022, 09:08 AM

I should be able to make it ...

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Posted by: Cairo94507 Mar 24 2022, 09:09 AM

I will be there; this should be a great time. beerchug.gif

Posted by: Superhawk996 Mar 24 2022, 09:20 AM

QUOTE(tygaboy @ Mar 24 2022, 10:57 AM) *

Hi World - It's been a minute since we last had a Red Barn Workshop so I figured it's time!

There are no $ charges for anything. My tools are you're tools. op[/url]


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Posted by: mikey63 Mar 24 2022, 09:22 AM

I'm in!!! piratenanner.gif

Posted by: iankarr Mar 24 2022, 09:51 AM

Wish I could make it! Have fun!

Posted by: 914_teener Mar 24 2022, 11:09 AM

Oh....a NorCal fun day.


Have fun guys.

Posted by: roundtwo Mar 24 2022, 10:42 PM

Sounds great Chris. Just need to tow my car over the night before and purchase a two pound spool of welding wire as a host gift. WTF.gif

Pretty darn sure I'll be there.

Posted by: Van B Mar 24 2022, 11:27 PM

That’s pretty cool man… actually, it’s really cool.

Y’all have fun and put his tools back where you found them!!!

Posted by: jcd914 Mar 24 2022, 11:49 PM

I'm In, this sound like fun and Petaluma is a favorite of ours.

In fact my wife and I will be "camping" at KOA in Petaluma this weekend, 914 in tow.

Jim

Posted by: falcor75 Mar 25 2022, 03:07 AM

Events like this really makes it suck being stuck in a garage in the northern ass end of the world. I hope you get a grand time and report back with plenty of photos and stories please. smile.gif

Posted by: dax1969 Mar 25 2022, 08:43 AM

Great, let me catch a flight biggrin.gif

We have a workshop day in Belgium together with the 914club Holland on 27th march.

This time we have "electrics" scheduled.... I already took my gauges out as we are going to install LED's.... Always fun to get together

last workshop - taking gastank out, installing master cylinder, brakes etc
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Posted by: Krieger Mar 25 2022, 08:53 AM

I would love to go, just not sure with my travels to scottsdale these days…

Posted by: tygaboy Mar 25 2022, 08:57 AM

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I would love to go, just not sure with my travels to scottsdale these days…

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=2104 - Andy, Family first, always. Hope it works out that you can attend - it won't be the same without you!

Posted by: Krieger Mar 25 2022, 11:02 AM

Did you guys remove that pesky speed bump on your driveway laugh.gif

Posted by: fiacra Mar 25 2022, 11:12 PM

QUOTE(tygaboy @ Mar 24 2022, 08:01 AM) *

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=9712 @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=11529 @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=22920 @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=26158
I hope to see you here!


Wouldn't miss it!!!! As always, thanks to you and your wife for making us welcome.

Posted by: tygaboy Mar 25 2022, 11:23 PM

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Did you guys remove that pesky speed bump on your driveway laugh.gif

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=2104 - Funny you should mention that. We (all the lane residents) are partnering with the neighbors who actually own the lane to have the potholes filled and the speed bump removed! Not sure it'll be gone by the 9th but it will be gone "soon"!

Posted by: Krieger Mar 26 2022, 08:40 AM

Awesome! My track car has an issue driving over and around it. I may have to drive my red one.

Posted by: cali914 Mar 26 2022, 08:56 AM

Im there. I have been dying to see your car in person that is.

Posted by: tygaboy Mar 26 2022, 09:25 AM

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Im there. I have been dying to see your car in person that is.

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=5934 - Love to have you attend! And, just fyi, I think I'll be taking it to EASY next Saturday so if you're there...

Posted by: JamesJ Mar 26 2022, 07:01 PM

Thanks Chris! Looking forward to seeing everyone there. A friend will be going as well. He is the new owner of a 914-6. We will each bring our own cars.

Posted by: BuddyV Mar 26 2022, 08:07 PM

I am local.... and will bring the Costco Pizzas.

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Posted by: cali914 Mar 26 2022, 10:03 PM

QUOTE(tygaboy @ Mar 26 2022, 08:25 AM) *

QUOTE(cali914 @ Mar 26 2022, 07:56 AM) *

Im there. I have been dying to see your car in person that is.

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=5934 - Love to have you attend! And, just fyi, I think I'll be taking it to EASY next Saturday so if you're there...

Great yes I will be there. Is there any E85 stations close by in your neck of the woods.

Posted by: SirAndy Mar 27 2022, 11:06 AM

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I am local.... and will bring the Costco Pizzas.

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Posted by: tygaboy Mar 27 2022, 03:01 PM

It's looking like it'll be a great turnout!
Just want to poke you attendees: Only one person has mentioned wanting some help with a project - and that's fine. I'm totally good with this being more of a 'cars & pizza' thing! Big THANKS to Robert @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=3898 for his offer of grub!

So just a reminder:
If you want to "do some real work", please PM me to let me know so I can be prepared.

If all we have is this one thing I mentioned, you may be forced to watch me struggle through a redesign / fabrication of something for my car! happy11.gif

Posted by: tygaboy Apr 3 2022, 09:24 AM

A bit less than a week until our event and the only thing on the "to do" work list is making a small panel to hold a couple auxiliary gauges.

Not that I don't love a gathering, I just want to be sure I'm prepared.

So if you want help with a part or access to tools or do anything other than hang out, drink/eat and take turns driving my car shades.gif , please let me know ASAP.

I've confirmed that Bill will be here with his 50-years owned '58 Speedster. Seeing his car is one thing but hearing his stories about midget racing, building and racing his own Group 7 car or his exploits racing the Volvo is worth the price of admission - which is free! Bill is 85 and one of the OG "build-it-race-it-improve-it-repeat" guys from back in the day. In short, there will be no shortage of interesting stuff.

See you on the 9th!


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Posted by: tygaboy Apr 3 2022, 09:33 AM

As you enter our lane and pass the first house, WATCH OUT FOR THE SPEED BUMP!!
There are also a couple REALLY BIG pot holes on the right side, just in front of the bump.

In my 914, I put my driver side tire just off the left edge of the bump and I make it over just fine.

But don't say you weren't warned!

Posted by: JamesJ Apr 7 2022, 08:51 PM

Hi Chris,
Quick update. Three of us will be attending...each with our own cars. Looking forward to it!

Posted by: jcd914 Apr 7 2022, 11:41 PM

I'll be driving my 914 in from Sacramento, about 2 hrs.
I have not driven this 914 that far yet, so it will be a test of both me and the 914.

Anyone else driving in from my direction?

Jim

Posted by: Cairo94507 Apr 8 2022, 06:40 AM

Yes, HB and I are meeting up at the IKEA somewhere near Sacramento and then going from there. I sent you a PM.

Thanks,
Michael

Posted by: rgalla9146 Apr 8 2022, 07:16 AM


This thread has pictures of two cars with American Racing Torque Thrust wheels !
I'd love to attend, looks like an awsome event.
The travel time is an issue.

Posted by: willieg Apr 8 2022, 08:34 AM

Chris
I wish I could make it. Your generosity towards me and others has always been astounding. Godspeed.

Posted by: jcd914 Apr 8 2022, 09:24 AM

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Yes, HB and I are meeting up at the IKEA somewhere near Sacramento and then going from there. I sent you a PM.

Thanks,
Michael


This sounds great, IKEA is only about 20 minutes from my house.

Planning a straight run out 80 to 37?
I had looked at going out of Woodland out past Lake Berryessa but it adds an hour.

I'll send my cell phone number via PM.

Jim

Posted by: RoadGlue Apr 8 2022, 12:25 PM

Just saw this. I'll try to make it for at least a few hours. @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=20897 - I'd love that wheel if you're coming up.

Thanks Chris!

Posted by: Cairo94507 Apr 8 2022, 03:37 PM

For anyone coming out of the Sacramento area, we will be meeting at the McDonald's at 700 Ikea Court, W Sacramento at 0700. We will leave for Petaluma after the appropriate amount of BS'ing. beerchug.gif

Posted by: SirAndy Apr 9 2022, 06:28 PM

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Posted by: SirAndy Apr 9 2022, 06:30 PM

Chris,
Thanks for hosting and for your hard work making that hood vent!

And thanks to everyone else who came out ...
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Posted by: markhoward Apr 9 2022, 06:39 PM

Had a fun time at the Red Barn seeing all the peeps and 914’s. Chris as always, was a fine host and chomping at the bit to jump in on a project with some meat on it. The mood was more of a meet and greet which was fine in itself. Luckily, Sir Andy came through with a viable project. After some back and forth and bouncing around of ideas, the plasma table came to life, rendering a hood-mounted oil cooler exit grille that is all business. I was supposed to be on photo duty and I thought I was ok until I looked at my phone and realized I only had a few from when I first got there. Others who snapped pics please post them so I don’t look like a complete slacker. Seriously, thank you Chris for having us today. I think everyone had a great time!

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Posted by: Cairo94507 Apr 9 2022, 07:00 PM

This was just a terrific day- I think the final count was 13 914's! Not bad for a little gathering at the Red Barn. Chris is a terrific host and I thank him as always for all he does. Robert stopped and grabbed a couple pies from Costco and that was well received.

Got to spend the day talking with people who all share the same passion and it was a blast.

All in, I think it was a 250 mile day for me and my car performed great. I love the new brakes and especially loved that with the correct heater lever in the car (floor) I was able to turn the heat off. That made the whole drive a whole lot less like being slow baked at 325.

Truly a fun day and thanks again to Chris for hosting all of us and opening up his shop. Watching how the sausage is made (SirAndy's hood vent) was very cool.

Now, let's talk about the trip to Petaluma. HB with the beautiful '75 copper 914 with white interior met me and Jim, with the pretty dark blue 914. Both Jim and HB are just starting to drive their cars and letting the leash get longer with each trip. Both their cars performed flawlessly and it was fun caravanning to Petaluma.

Chris' driveway looked like a Crayon ad with all the colors well represented. Thanks everyone for a fun gathering.


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Posted by: markhoward Apr 9 2022, 07:06 PM

Michael, nice camara work snapping that hawk as it took a flyby!

Posted by: tygaboy Apr 9 2022, 07:29 PM

Mid-morning, our 85 year-old next door neighbor called my wife and asked if we were celebrating Easter early, what with all those "easter egg" cars!
Boy, oh BOY that was a fun day. Can I just say how lucky we are to have such a great community! A random collection of people, each as interesting and entertaining as the next.

Thanks to all who were able to attend. As we all know, it's great guests that make a great party. Thanks for a GREAT party! We need to do this again soon.

Now, The Easter Egg cars!


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Posted by: tygaboy Apr 9 2022, 07:32 PM

A '72 S Targa and a '58 Speedster. Yep, that how we roll at the Red Barn. shades.gif


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Posted by: tygaboy Apr 9 2022, 07:44 PM

I was getting a little nervous that I wouldn't be able to waste material and do things three times when our very own @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=179 Andy asked for help with a hood vent for his 3.6 monster.
A fun little project, and one in which Andy had close encounter of the TygaBoy kind. lol-2.gif
Attempt 1: We measured his current hood vent. We went through the process of leveraging my hood vent bendy vane design and worked up the CAD drawing for his vent. Then we cut the panel... Huh. How'd that happen? It was too big.
Attempt 2: Oh, of course, that's why it's too big! Let's change this and that, etc. Back to CAD, update, edit, save. Generate the G-code, cut the part. Hmmmmm. Oops, forgot about how rivets in that location wouldn't clear the ducting (that was sitting right there...! Duh.)
Attempt 3: To quote Bullwinkle, "This time, for SURE!" And it was!
Hey, it wouldn't be a day at the Red Barn without multiple versions. happy11.gif
But it all ended well and Andy left with a cool new vent panel. Yes, this is 18ga steel and we agreed that once he's sure he's happy with the design/performance, he'll be back and we'll cut the final version in aluminum.
Again, a fun project and a nice result.
Let's start with the part I found most riveting. lol-2.gif


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Posted by: tygaboy Apr 9 2022, 07:48 PM

This pic doesn't do justice to how cool (pun intended) the view is when you look through the vent and down into the ducting. Remnant Sharpie marks aside, this is Full Race, baby! aktion035.gif


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Posted by: tygaboy Apr 9 2022, 07:58 PM

Big thanks to Robert @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=3898 for the pizza lunch! You're the best, my friend!
And your car looked the best I've ever seen it! Even the tires were cleaned...

Posted by: SirAndy Apr 9 2022, 07:58 PM

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... once he's sure he's happy with the design/performance ...


- Performance seems too good. Oil temp never got over 150, sitting between 130 and 150. That's a bit on the cold side, if i remember right, the thermostat is set for 170-ish.

- Design wise, the two top vanes need a center support, they were flopping quite a lot.

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Posted by: tygaboy Apr 9 2022, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(tygaboy @ Apr 9 2022, 06:44 PM) *
... once he's sure he's happy with the design/performance ...


- Performance seems too good. Oil temp never got over 150, sitting between 130 and 150. That's a bit on the cold side, if i remember right, the thermostat is set for 170-ish.

- Design wise, the two top vanes need a center support, they were flopping quite a lot.

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Flopping is almost never good! And yes, folks reading this, Andy and I talked about this being a possibility before he left. We even talked about a couple options to address it.
Looks like we'll get to at least Version IV. I LOVE it when that happens! laugh.gif

Posted by: RoadGlue Apr 9 2022, 09:16 PM

Thank you for hosting, Chris! It was great to catch up with a lot of familiar faces, and look forward to seeing everyone again soon.

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=20897 - Total hero. I'm stoked to finally have a spare! smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: Andyrew Apr 9 2022, 09:20 PM

Looks like a fantastic day!! Sorry I missed it guys! We had an Easter thing with the kids so I couldn’t make it… Next time I’ll bring a project smile.gif

Glad Andy got some work done!!

Posted by: maf914 Apr 10 2022, 05:44 AM

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... once he's sure he's happy with the design/performance ...


- Performance seems too good. Oil temp never got over 150, sitting between 130 and 150. That's a bit on the cold side, if i remember right, the thermostat is set for 170-ish.

- Design wise, the two top vanes need a center support, they were flopping quite a lot.

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Nice louvered vent. I like it.

Maybe you could lay the vanes back and reduce the free area a bit to reduce the air flow volume. But don't work harden the joints and cause fatigue cracking.

Posted by: tygaboy Apr 10 2022, 08:15 AM

Let's not miss @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=23905 Todd's new arrival: a '73 with steel flares and a 3.0 /6 conversion with PMOs. Complete with a lovely interior, GTS seats in leather (!), real Fuchs and some other goodies! Just look at all the love it was getting. I mean, preferred parking with its own cover! Nothing but the best when you're a visitor to the Red Barn. smile.gif
And that's @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=2104 Andy's lovely '75 there in the foreground. BEAUTIFUL can with subtle mods that is simply stunning.


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Posted by: Krieger Apr 10 2022, 08:51 AM

I'm so glad that I was able to make it! Great bunch of people!

Posted by: Long_ago Apr 10 2022, 11:24 AM

Yes it was a great day.
A wide variety of cars. Everyone so helpful and nice.

Came up 5 and met Michael and Jim in Sac.
We caravaned together. A very nice way to travel.

Thanks so much.
HB

Posted by: roundtwo Apr 12 2022, 08:57 AM

A remarkable Wrench O Ramma at the Big Red Barn. So many amazing cars each with their own unique story.
The gathering came at the perfect time ad honestly saved my spirit. Having just taken delivery on a "new" 914-6 the day before I showed up from the other side of town a bit shaken. I knew the car needed some additional tuning. But the very loose front rotor/ hub I hadn't planned for. The enormous pit crew jumped right in, tuning carbs and getting the front of the car off the ground at the same time. I felt like Ricky Bobby on race day!!! I can't say enough kind and grateful words about all of you. You're a great tribe that I'm lucky to be surrounded by.

Update- looks as if a there's mismatch of the length of the spindle and the depth of the hub/ rotor combination. I can't tighten the spindle nut enough for the back of the spindle washer to contact the outer face of the outer bearing. The washer hits the part of the spindle where the inner threads ends and the first wider taper begins. It just needs another 1-2 mm tightening but the washer bottoms out at that taper. Strut is koni type. Labeled 911 34107 from what i can tell. Not sure if the depth of the rotor is too shallow, the hub too shallow or the bearing should be thicker to take up more distance on the spindle. Something is off. More to follow.


Hope to see you'll all soon.
Cheers to you Chris for bringing us all together.

Posted by: Cairo94507 Apr 12 2022, 09:11 AM

Hey Todd,
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=23905 Glad you are getting to the bottom of that issue. Your new car is a very nice, well appointed car. Once sorted you are going to really love that baby. It has all the right stuff for sure. Maybe check with Eric at PMB and see what he says re the front hubs, etc. Shoot some pictures and send them to him. He may be able to dial you in and of course, supply the parts you may need.

AND Kudos to Andy K. @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=2104 for jumping right in and getting his hands dirty. Just great people all around really.

How did the engine run on your way home?

Cheers and looking forward to seeing you again.
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Posted by: Krieger Apr 12 2022, 09:22 AM

Glad he brought the car back. Probably overwhelmed Todd, but set him in the right diection!

Posted by: markhoward Apr 12 2022, 10:03 AM

Really liked @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=23905 ‘s new /6. Lets get get a thread started on it so we can track its progress.

Posted by: Shackleford Apr 12 2022, 11:54 AM

Oh man. This loooks rad. Bummed I
Missed out on a chance to learn from some experts. I’m in Marin. Next time!

Posted by: roundtwo Apr 14 2022, 10:24 AM

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From an insightful conversation with George Hussey at Auto Atlanta, we determined that both left and right sides are missing the spacer noted in the diagram.

That dang part #24 !!! Very important. sad.gif

Hope to back on the road next week.





Posted by: SirAndy Apr 14 2022, 11:31 AM

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we determined that both left and right sides are missing the spacer noted in the diagram

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Posted by: Justinp71 Apr 14 2022, 02:23 PM

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we determined that both left and right sides are missing the spacer noted in the diagram

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Looks like fun times.

Hmm... I don't recall having that spacer on my car. Now I think I may need to check!

Posted by: jcd914 Apr 14 2022, 11:57 PM

The spacers are not loose, they are pressed on to the spindle and look like a part of the strut. Which is why they can get left on an old strut when replacing it.

It is also the seal race for the inner grease seal and there is an o-ring* between the spacer and spindle.

Jim

* o-ring is #23 above

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