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914World.com _ 914World Garage _ What are the differences between a 2.0 VW and 914 motor?

Posted by: DBF Jul 1 2022, 10:19 PM

I have a 76 VW van and a 74 914, both with 2.0 Type 4 motors. I have been searching the internet, without much luck, trying to find out what modifications Porsche did to the internals of the VW Type 4 motor to bump horsepower from 67 to 95, and torque from 101 to 119. I see the heads are different. It also looks like they both used dished mahle pistons, with the Porsche having a 7.6 compression ratio, and the VW a 7.3 compression ratio. Anyone know what else was modified such as camshaft specs, crankshaft, etc. Thanks.

Posted by: era vulgaris Jul 2 2022, 05:45 AM

The bus pistons have a larger dish, which I've read is part of what gives them the lower compression ratio

Posted by: 914Sixer Jul 2 2022, 06:05 AM

Jake Raby covered all the information you need to know in depth. He developed a engine kit specifically for the VW Bus to maximize horsepower for it. Check Type 4 store for kit information.

Posted by: bdstone914 Jul 2 2022, 07:05 AM

The bus motor has hydraulic lifters with a different csm and has a lower red line.

Posted by: TheCabinetmaker Jul 2 2022, 07:45 AM

2L bus has 1.8 heads and valves, lower compression, deep dished pistons. Not a true 2L.

Posted by: nathanxnathan Jul 3 2022, 10:07 AM

They're all 1971 cc — not really 2 liters poke.gif

Here's a chart from the old tunacan site
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Posted by: Montreal914 Jul 3 2022, 10:50 AM

If I recall, the 76 912E had L-Jet. Table says D-Jet... confused24.gif

Posted by: nathanxnathan Jul 3 2022, 05:53 PM

QUOTE(Montreal914 @ Jul 3 2022, 09:50 AM) *

If I recall, the 76 912E had L-Jet. Table says D-Jet... confused24.gif


I think you're right, Wikipedia confirms it.

Trying to verify that, I came across a thread on 912bbs.org saying that 912e engines didn't have numbers stamped on the block, and the number on the fans shroud started in "406" and not 2 letters. I don';t have much experience with 912's to know for sure.

Posted by: wonkipop Jul 3 2022, 06:14 PM

QUOTE(nathanxnathan @ Jul 3 2022, 05:53 PM) *

QUOTE(Montreal914 @ Jul 3 2022, 09:50 AM) *

If I recall, the 76 912E had L-Jet. Table says D-Jet... confused24.gif


I think you're right, Wikipedia confirms it.

Trying to verify that, I came across a thread on 912bbs.org saying that 912e engines didn't have numbers stamped on the block, and the number on the fans shroud started in "406" and not 2 letters. I don';t have much experience with 912's to know for sure.


912E is L jet.

bus motor is more or less a bored out 1.8 as @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=666 says.
its all about torque. its a truck engine (thats not an insult - just what it is).

the 914 2 is a porsche re-engineered VW engine.
i think Hans Mezger did the design work on it?

EDIT
maybe the most interesting engine of them all is the least known.
1.8 AN engine for europe only.
8.6:1 compression ratio and 85 hp.
pumping out nearly the same as the USA 2.0 L from 75 on.
but carbies and no emissions gear and a taste for high octane fuel.
if they had stuck L jet on that i reckon they might have pulled 90 hp out of it.
but it would have required its own tuned L jet system = more research development $ they didn't have budget for?

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