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Posted by: Marv's3.6six Aug 29 2022, 05:31 PM
My baby was stolen this last weekend. Stolen from Autowerkes Porsche in Huntington Beach Ca. It looks like the car was targeted as other cars were broken into to move them to get to my car. I am heartbroken. As many of the long time members know my car is an over the top GT resto-mod and a multi year thread exists here on the World as testament.
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Posted by: Eric_Shea Aug 29 2022, 05:35 PM
I'll post on all of our sites.
Posted by: Jamie Aug 29 2022, 05:41 PM
My baby was stolen this last weekend. Stolen from Autowerkes Porsche in Huntington Beach Ca. It looks like the car was targeted as other cars were broken into to move them to get to my car. I am heartbroken. As many of the long time members know my car is an over the top GT resto-mod and a multi year thread exists here on the World as testament.
WOW, that's a heart breaker! Seems like a custom car like this would be very hard to hide unless the object was to part it out at some obscure chop shop?
Posted by: NARP74 Aug 29 2022, 05:43 PM
Terrible news, sorry you are going through this.
Posted by: pete000 Aug 29 2022, 05:46 PM
Your car is famous, I have seen it so many times ate the shows and swap meets when I lived in CA. I hope you can recover it. The Pelican Parts 914-6 GT was recovered, lets keep our fingers crossed!
Posted by: 914werke Aug 29 2022, 06:05 PM
OMG! So sorry~
Posted by: Dion Aug 29 2022, 06:19 PM
Fuchin douchebags! 
I’m so very sorry to hear this. It’s not a car at this point it’s part of your life and who you meet with it. Totally sux.
I hope it can be recovered. Our community will have eyes out. Fingers crossed.
Posted by: StarBear Aug 29 2022, 06:27 PM
Keeping fingers crossed and hopes up. Devastated feeling for sure. Destined for non US client I suspect. It’ll show up!
Posted by: wonkipop Aug 29 2022, 06:35 PM
hope you get it back and soon.
Posted by: Marv's3.6six Aug 29 2022, 06:47 PM
Thanks for the reply's and condolence, its not been the best day.
Let me ask an insurance question, since this was stolen from a shop should not the responsibility to make me whole in $ be on the shop, not on my insurance.
Posted by: Steve Aug 29 2022, 06:53 PM
Thanks for the reply's and condolence, its not been the best day.
Let me ask an insurance question, since this was stolen from a shop should not the responsibility to make me whole in $ be on the shop, not on my insurance.
So sorry for your loss. Your car is an amazing one of a kind gem. I am not an insurance expert, but usually you start with your insurance and then they go after the responsible person. Hope you have stated value insurance. Otherwise it will be harder to prove what your car is worth.
Posted by: Marv's3.6six Aug 29 2022, 07:03 PM
Thanks for the reply's and condolence, its not been the best day.
Let me ask an insurance question, since this was stolen from a shop should not the responsibility to make me whole in $ be on the shop, not on my insurance.
So sorry for your loss. Your car is an amazing one of a kind gem. I am not an insurance expert, but usually you start with your insurance and then they go after the responsible person. Hope you have stated value insurance. Otherwise it will be harder to prove what your car is worth.
Thanks Steve. I've never had a car stolen from me, neither has Autowerkes. I am still in shock, can't believe this is real.
Posted by: mepstein Aug 29 2022, 07:10 PM
Thanks for the reply's and condolence, its not been the best day.
Let me ask an insurance question, since this was stolen from a shop should not the responsibility to make me whole in $ be on the shop, not on my insurance.
So sorry for your loss. Your car is an amazing one of a kind gem. I am not an insurance expert, but usually you start with your insurance and then they go after the responsible person. Hope you have stated value insurance. Otherwise it will be harder to prove what your car is worth.
Let the insurance company do the work. That's what you pay them for. Many times they will pay out what they owe you per your contract and then go after the party they feel is responsible. Good luck no matter what. Don't be surprised if the shop doesn't carry insurance for customer cars. Many don't. When I worked at a shop, I looked into it and it was cost prohibitive so they didn't get it. It was not required in Delaware. Of course, every shop and every state is different.
Posted by: echocanyons Aug 29 2022, 07:13 PM
I’m so sorry to hear this.
Your car has been inspiration to many builds.
I hope that you recover it soon and without issue
Posted by: ValcoOscar Aug 29 2022, 07:22 PM
So sorry to see this happen.
My wife works next door and took this shot of your 914 while parked on the street Fri Aug 26th @ about 9:40am
I will ask her if she saw something suspicious that morning.
O
Posted by: 914Sixer Aug 29 2022, 07:27 PM
Sounds like the thieves had a shopping list aka Gone in 60 Seconds. Must have had a boost crew. Certainly a heart felt loss.
Posted by: infraredcalvin Aug 29 2022, 07:47 PM
Uggg, worst nightmare for sure! Will keep eyes open and will spread the word. Good luck in getting it back!
Posted by: jim_hoyland Aug 29 2022, 07:49 PM
So sorry to hear this, I know the shop well and thought it looked like a secure yard. The surrounding square mile is home to all sorts of auto businesses. Years ago my -6 was vandalized at a Porsche shop over a weekend. Since the car was in the shops care and custody, they had to make it right.
Whenever I have to leave the -4 overnight st my local shop , the car is stored inside on a raised lift.
Posted by: ValcoOscar Aug 29 2022, 07:54 PM
Somebody needs to walk the area to see if there are any cameras that could have possibly caught something.
O
Posted by: sixnotfour Aug 29 2022, 08:34 PM
Only Car Stolen ??...Get an Attorney ...Pressure the Shop, Not a Coincident.. Somebody there knows Something..
Posted by: second wind Aug 29 2022, 09:59 PM
Only Car Stolen ??...Get an Attorney ...Pressure the Shop, Not a Coincident.. Somebody there knows Something..
This post sure sounds worthwhile to me....just my 2 cents of knowing people for a while...something stinks here...IMHO....
gg
Posted by: Lucky9146 Aug 29 2022, 10:06 PM
Just heartbreaking to hear something like this. Agree with Oscar there has to be some cameras in the area I sure hope so. Had a car stolen once, certainly not of this caliber, but all the same it is the absolute worst feeling. As a fellow GT tribute owner, it really hits close to home. Sincerely hope it is recovered.
Posted by: mtn flyr Aug 29 2022, 10:19 PM
So sorry this happened. I know how it feels, I had a restored 75 Carrera stolen from a shop also. My experience was my insurance (Haggerty) took charge of this. Again, sorry you are going through this. Hopefully it will turn up soon.
Posted by: Blue6 Aug 29 2022, 10:46 PM
Huntington Beach PD is a better than average PD. Contact them, ask for their auto theft detective. Make sure he/she knows the value, and that it’s not a common 914. Make sure the patrol officer who took the report notified him/her your car was targeted. Ask them if they’ve canvassed for cameras. Supply the detective with a picture, and ask him/her to notify customs at Long Beach and LA harbors. Remember, with law enforcement being stretched thin, the squeaky wheel. 
Posted by: raynekat Aug 30 2022, 01:06 AM
This is the worst news possible.
Wish you a speedy recovery of your beautiful car.
Posted by: carr914 Aug 30 2022, 03:46 AM
this sucks!
I have had a car stolen before but it was not in the same sphere as this car
Hoping for the best
Posted by: Shivers Aug 30 2022, 04:35 AM
Sorry man, I'll keep an eye out here.
Posted by: 914dave Aug 30 2022, 04:35 AM
Sorry you’re going thru this. Hoping for a good resolution for you.
Posted by: mlindner Aug 30 2022, 04:41 AM
Thanks Eric for all the post, we will be on the look out world wide for Marv.
Posted by: mate914 Aug 30 2022, 04:54 AM
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I do hope you get your car back.
Matt 
Posted by: Pezz Aug 30 2022, 05:50 AM
We're sad and sorry for your loss. Your baby would be difficult to hide or sell. What does the repair contract state about responsibility for the vehicle? Does it state that they are not responsible for theft or damage? Who was the last mechanic to park it? Who locked the yard gate? Seems to smell like an inside heist. I'd get an attorney and ask for depositions from every employee. Car thefts have increased. Keep us posted. Best Regards~
Posted by: sb914 Aug 30 2022, 06:03 AM
Dam Marv,
Hope you get it back! I feel your pain.I’ve had two trucks stolen.
It does sound suspicious. Fuching thieves suck… One of my all time favorite cars .
Posted by: Cairo94507 Aug 30 2022, 06:08 AM
Fingers crossed that they find your car just parked and out of gas on the side of the road. Post on every car site you can think about and include pictures. Hopefully someone sees your cr and calls the coppers. Made me sick to see this thread.
Posted by: sb914 Aug 30 2022, 06:21 AM
Was your car there getting prepped to sell ?
I know you were talking about selling it …..
Posted by: eric9144 Aug 30 2022, 08:34 AM
So sorry to hear this, hits especially close to home because our cars and builds are so similar, hope its found in one piece but given the story it sounds like it was cherry picked which is even more concerning.
Reminder to everyone to make sure your insurance is dialed in on values etc...you never know...
Man, thieves SUCK
Posted by: NARP74 Aug 30 2022, 08:40 AM
Does the shop still have the keys? Any lock shops nearby? Any copies made recently?
Posted by: DTMLGND Aug 30 2022, 08:56 AM
So sorry to hear of this and hope it's found quickly. Sounds like a well-thought out plan , not a random heist. Good Luck
Posted by: Marv's3.6six Aug 30 2022, 11:15 AM
Thanks for all the comments and concerns.
I have just learned from Hagerty that I cannot accept a settlement from them and then go after the shop for any difference from insured value and market value. This is most likely because Hagerty will be going after the shop to recover their loss.
I had decided I wanted to make the car perfect, it was at Autowerkes to address a leaky transmission. I also had plans for some new minor mods in process, it is much easier to love your baby when she is perfect and not constantly marking the floor.
Yes I had talked about selling earlier this year and talked to Bringatrailer, they loved the car BUT the leaky trans is an issue. She was not far off from being a super high dollar seller at BAT, sad.
Posted by: siverson Aug 30 2022, 11:39 AM
Man what a bummer. I'm not an expert in this stuff but I'd still talk to a lawyer if it was me. Hagerty may say that but it doesn't mean its right and the only option.
Good luck!
I'm trying to imagine what a thief is going to do with it? Sell for parts? Even that would be tough to do IMO. Have you posted engine serial numbers/etc?
-Steve
Posted by: mgp4591 Aug 30 2022, 12:12 PM
Thanks for all the comments and concerns.
I have just learned from Hagerty that I cannot accept a settlement from them and then go after the shop for any difference from insured value and market value. This is most likely because Hagerty will be going after the shop to recover their loss.
I had decided I wanted to make the car perfect, it was at Autowerkes to address a leaky transmission. I also had plans for some new minor mods in process, it is much easier to love your baby when she is perfect and not constantly marking the floor.
Yes I had talked about selling earlier this year and talked to Bringatrailer, they loved the car BUT the leaky trans is an issue. She was not far off from being a super high dollar seller at BAT, sad.
I think that getting a good estimate of the value would be boosted due to your build thread here. Your car is certainly unique in many ways and I'd guess it would be difficult to sell as is...I hate to think of it being cut up for just parts.
Posted by: 914_teener Aug 30 2022, 03:19 PM
Thanks for all the comments and concerns.
I have just learned from Hagerty that I cannot accept a settlement from them and then go after the shop for any difference from insured value and market value. This is most likely because Hagerty will be going after the shop to recover their loss.
I had decided I wanted to make the car perfect, it was at Autowerkes to address a leaky transmission. I also had plans for some new minor mods in process, it is much easier to love your baby when she is perfect and not constantly marking the floor.
Yes I had talked about selling earlier this year and talked to Bringatrailer, they loved the car BUT the leaky trans is an issue. She was not far off from being a super high dollar seller at BAT, sad.
I am so sorry to hear of this. Your car is immaculate.
I had Haggerty's at one time. What were the terms of the policy...agreed value?
Posted by: Root_Werks Aug 30 2022, 03:47 PM
Very sorry to hear about this. Everything put into a project like this only to have it taken from you.
I hope you get your 914 back.
Posted by: Marv's3.6six Aug 30 2022, 04:51 PM
Man what a bummer. I'm not an expert in this stuff but I'd still talk to a lawyer if it was me. Hagerty may say that but it doesn't mean its right and the only option.
Good luck!
I'm trying to imagine what a thief is going to do with it? Sell for parts? Even that would be tough to do IMO. Have you posted engine serial numbers/etc?
-Steve
Steve, my thoughts are the same regarding a lawyer but it is still early days. I picture in my mind that my car is loaded on some container and headed who knows where.
Posted by: wonkipop Aug 30 2022, 06:29 PM
Man what a bummer. I'm not an expert in this stuff but I'd still talk to a lawyer if it was me. Hagerty may say that but it doesn't mean its right and the only option.
Good luck!
I'm trying to imagine what a thief is going to do with it? Sell for parts? Even that would be tough to do IMO. Have you posted engine serial numbers/etc?
-Steve
Steve, my thoughts are the same regarding a lawyer but it is still early days. I picture in my mind that my car is loaded on some container and headed who knows where.
mmmmm
its bizarre to steal a car of that age and so specialised.
and to target it specifically.
they definitely must have cased the shop and been very fluid and mobile in their ability to identify and target as your car had only just gone in there?
they didn't steal any other car?
that kind of stuff was going on in aus but not cars of such vintage and specialization.
african/arab immigrant gangs were going after late model luxury vehicles.
they were in containers and on ships almost before the owners woke up in the morning.
(ps not being racist, just that the activities here were meshed into recent waves of immigration with links back to country of origin and the activity was different to the usual century old activities with dubious wrecking yards and parting out).
if thats the case then stealing to order has moved into another league?
Posted by: Gmanscott55 Aug 30 2022, 10:02 PM
I posted up on IG on my account about theft (gmanscott55) and received this response just now from a friend whose buddy saw it on fwy yesterday. This is his IG account.
Note: Ignore 1st item in post as it was unrelated.
Marv, hope this helps and perhaps it is still in SCal area.
Gary Scott, sunset Beach,Ca
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Posted by: Gmanscott55 Aug 30 2022, 10:25 PM
Approx 8 o'clock PM last night on the car siting as time reference
Posted by: Marv's3.6six Aug 31 2022, 08:24 AM
Approx 8 o'clock PM last night on the car siting as time reference
Gary PM your phone, thanks.
Posted by: Gmanscott55 Aug 31 2022, 08:44 AM
Sent contact info- Gary
Posted by: Marv's3.6six Aug 31 2022, 10:14 AM
Thanks to Gary I have spoken to the guy that spotted the car. It is confirmed it is my car for sure.
BOLO Spotted Monday 29 August early evening on the 105 fwy headed for the 60 east. Driver appears to be 30ish, brown hair, short beard, light skinned.
Posted by: Robarabian Aug 31 2022, 10:23 AM
Some LE agencies are better than others when it comes to auto theft. Might be worth seeing if the CHP can tap into their Cal Trans camera system. Maybe they can do a bit of searching and figure out what offramp.
I swear, with all the cameras these days, following an item like this should be doable. Exits freeway. Camera feeds in either direction pick it up going X direction.. give a general neighborhood maybe.
Local cops probably know the players in any given neighborhood, chop shops etc.
Just a thought.
Also, same with the news outlets. KTLA always tapping into Cal Trans Cameras, maybe one of the "car guys" who reports on car things (Gayle Anderson?) would be interested in the story of the classic porsche last seen on video... you never know how getting the word out could help on this. And what a story it would be.
My .02 cents, very sorry for your loss.
Thanks to Gary I have spoken to the guy that spotted the car. It is confirmed it is my car for sure.
BOLO Spotted Monday 29 August early evening on the 105 fwy headed for the 60 east. Driver appears to be 30ish, brown hair, short beard, light skinned.
Posted by: JamesM Aug 31 2022, 10:57 AM
Somebody needs to walk the area to see if there are any cameras that could have possibly caught something.
O
I grew up 2 blocks from this shop, been down that street hundreds of times. Given the number of business including a storage facility I would be surprised if there are not cameras close by.
Posted by: JamesM Aug 31 2022, 11:01 AM
Thanks to Gary I have spoken to the guy that spotted the car. It is confirmed it is my car for sure.
BOLO Spotted Monday 29 August early evening on the 105 fwy headed for the 60 east. Driver appears to be 30ish, brown hair, short beard, light skinned.
Wow, that takes some balls to be out driving something that identifiable around. I was thinking someone probably boosted it to harvest the motor. Maybe this is a good sign it will be recovered in one piece.
Posted by: Craigers17 Aug 31 2022, 11:56 AM
First, Sorry for your loss....I can't even imagine having a 914 of this caliber. Second, I hate to belabor the camera point that has already been made, but have you asked the shop to show you their camera footage? (I'm sure you have, but I'd be interested in their answer.) Do they have cameras? I would think for liability reasons they would have cameras in their shop, sales area, and outside.
8 Camera systems with the switch and cabling are easily under 1K.
It would be hard to imagine a company that fixes high dollar European Cars in Southern California would not have at least a simple camera system.
Also, as mentioned by others, as long as the car wasn't immediately pushed up into a box truck and hauled off, it would be visible by every camera on those streets/adjacent streets for miles. Good luck with this.
Posted by: MM1 Aug 31 2022, 12:41 PM
Scourge of humanity - I pray the criminals are brought to justice soon . . .just so sorry for your loss.
Posted by: stickyfingers Aug 31 2022, 03:19 PM
Scourge of humanity - I pray the criminals are brought to justice soon . . .just so sorry for your loss.
So sorry for your loss man. This is brutal. My dad's brand new CRV (his first ever new car that he's owned and it was a gift from me - leased) I dropped off on his driveway at 6pm and it was gone by 3am. Someone stole it. Got it back from a shipping container 2 months later with damage. Repaired the damage. He drove it for a year and no kidding, on the anniversary date of the initial theft, same thing happened. And this time, it never came back.
I have started putting Apple air tags in all my cars. I hide them and make a note where I hid them because you have to change the batteries annually. Might be something to consider for everyone.
But man, I am gutted for you. Bunch of a-holes.
Posted by: Cairo94507 Aug 31 2022, 03:59 PM
I agree with @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=21317 . I had a 2001 NSX I bought that was still at the dealership and one of their employees, an NSX certified technician no less, broke into the manager's office, took the keys from the locked desk and stole my car. All on dealership video, clear as day. It all worked out for me, but the employee lost his job. I refused to press charges and the dealer made me happy.
I had met the employee and he had volunteered to deliver my car (it was in New Jersey) for free. I told him I was having it transported but thanked him for his kind offer. He wanted to take his girlfriend out to dinner in the car to impress her ands then he took it home and parked it in his garage, where the dealership found it in the morning.
I hope this 914-6 shows up soon and in one piece.
Posted by: Marv's3.6six Aug 31 2022, 05:49 PM
Hey guys thanks for all the love.
Update I spoke this morning with Bruce Powers owner of Autowerkes, he is gutted over this. They have never had a car stolen from them before so this is new territory. Bruce was able to find the footage of the crime, images are not clear BUT he is reaching out to all his neighbors on the street for them to review their security footage.
Here is what we know: at approx 1am Sunday morning someone broke into the yard by breaking the lock on their rolling gate and opening it. Perp can be seen moving 2 other cars to get to mine, only my car was stolen. They were able to get my car started and turn on the lights, however I don't have the headlight motors (have GT gas strut kit) so you can see on the security footage that the headlights are on but lights are not popped up, they then drove out of frame. Here is the odd bit it appears that the perp came back Sunday evening at about 9:45pm to roll the gate closed. Weird.
Posted by: wonkipop Aug 31 2022, 06:07 PM
Some LE agencies are better than others when it comes to auto theft. Might be worth seeing if the CHP can tap into their Cal Trans camera system. Maybe they can do a bit of searching and figure out what offramp.
I swear, with all the cameras these days, following an item like this should be doable. Exits freeway. Camera feeds in either direction pick it up going X direction.. give a general neighborhood maybe.
Local cops probably know the players in any given neighborhood, chop shops etc.
Just a thought.
Also, same with the news outlets. KTLA always tapping into Cal Trans Cameras, maybe one of the "car guys" who reports on car things (Gayle Anderson?) would be interested in the story of the classic porsche last seen on video... you never know how getting the word out could help on this. And what a story it would be.
My .02 cents, very sorry for your loss.
Thanks to Gary I have spoken to the guy that spotted the car. It is confirmed it is my car for sure.
BOLO Spotted Monday 29 August early evening on the 105 fwy headed for the 60 east. Driver appears to be 30ish, brown hair, short beard, light skinned.
we got so many speed/toll/red light cameras down here that the cops can track anything - and do.
a mate of mine's son had his ute stolen. it was nicked around 2.00 AM.
by lunchtime that day the cops could tell him a highly detailed track of where it was driven and had narrowed down the suburb they believed it was in.
sadly it was found the next day dumped and stripped. in the next suburb it was tracked to via cameras. all the cameras have license plate recognition.
unfortunately the thieves work very quickly down here. just one step in front.
all the surveillance stuff down here is good in that respect.
also a bit of a worry from a civil liberties point of view.
but....
its good you have a description of this guy.
he must be either stupid or supremely arrogant.
be only a matter of time.
Posted by: jim_hoyland Aug 31 2022, 06:19 PM
Has an artist rendering been done of the prep ? Someone knows …,,,or may be known by law enforcement already.
And, this part about closing the gate may be a valuable clue of some sort.
Posted by: Marv's3.6six Aug 31 2022, 06:29 PM
I sure hope the car gets returned.
I just spoke with James Patrick of Patrick Motorports to BOLO. James' parts are all over that car, he knows the car. I hope it does not come to this but James said $225k to build a new one, ouch. Thats a delta of 2.3x from the Hagerty insured value. Again I hope it gets returned and don't want to get all legal if'n you know what I mean.
Posted by: mb911 Aug 31 2022, 06:34 PM
This just stinks of someone knew the car and wanted it badly. Terrible.
Posted by: Marv's3.6six Aug 31 2022, 06:34 PM
Has an artist rendering been done of the prep ? Someone knows …,,,or may be known by law enforcement already.
Jim I don't have high expectations from HBPD, they have their hands full with just regular life bullshit a stolen car is pretty low on the todo list.
Posted by: Marv's3.6six Aug 31 2022, 06:36 PM
This just stinks of someone knew the car and wanted it badly. Terrible.
Ben... Yup, car was definitely targeted.
Posted by: JeffBowlsby Aug 31 2022, 07:07 PM
Two other cars were moved, touched. A gate opened/closed, touched. Doors/knobs other surfaces touched. Did perp wear gloves and if not have prints been lifted?
Posted by: SirAndy Aug 31 2022, 07:11 PM
He knows the place. He knows the car. This wasn't random.
That's all i'm going to say about this.
Posted by: Robarabian Aug 31 2022, 08:00 PM
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=3165 I spent 32 years in SO Cal law enforcement.
I was the supervisor of the property crime / auto theft unit.
Make noise with the Property Crimes Detective Sergeant and / lieutenant. Lieutenants are lazy, they don't want work or calls, so they will tell the Sergeant to solve it. Ask me how I know. (Yes I ultimately promoted but was not one of "them."
HB used to have Jim Katapodis who was on the council, retired LAPD.. see who else is police friendly on the council and reach out to them. The POA there supports certain candidates and dont want to hear that the ones who bought them off aren't performing.
The fact that a 100K porsche was taken in what is looking like an inside job is embarrassing to them. They need to dedicate a resource. I can't tell you how much as a police supervisor, I didn't want calls from outside the building.
Email the Chief or make an appointment. When they say, what is it regarding, "Citizen dis-satisfaction and a Sergeant or Captain will not suffice".. that gets you to a commander / deputy chief. Lots of Cops are "car guys" at least the older ones... you may get a sympathetic ear.
The HBPD page has an email for property crimes detectives, but you will get more with a call.
If you want me to walk you through how that conversation should go reach out. Im a former prosecutor as well, I speak the lingo.
Robert
Posted by: JamesM Aug 31 2022, 09:22 PM
He knows the place. He knows the car. This wasn't random.
That's all i'm going to say about this.
Wondering if he had a key too. I mean to go to that length to grab a specific car.
Posted by: wonkipop Aug 31 2022, 09:41 PM
He knows the place. He knows the car. This wasn't random.
That's all i'm going to say about this.
Wondering if he had a key too. I mean to go to that length to grab a specific car.
and keys to move other cars too?
Posted by: Marv's3.6six Aug 31 2022, 11:13 PM
He knows the place. He knows the car. This wasn't random.
That's all i'm going to say about this.
Wondering if he had a key too. I mean to go to that length to grab a specific car.
and keys to move other cars too?
No one had the key to the gate or to any cars. Gate was damaged and lock broken. Merc and Pcar slim jimmed pro level type work.
Posted by: mate914 Sep 1 2022, 08:55 AM
I agree with Robarabian. Make some phone calls to the people who are in charge of enforcing the laws.
Good luck with your search.
Matt
Posted by: Eric_Shea Sep 1 2022, 09:09 AM
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=3165 I spent 32 years in SO Cal law enforcement.
I was the supervisor of the property crime / auto theft unit.
Make noise with the Property Crimes Detective Sergeant and / lieutenant. Lieutenants are lazy, they don't want work or calls, so they will tell the Sergeant to solve it. Ask me how I know. (Yes I ultimately promoted but was not one of "them."
HB used to have Jim Katapodis who was on the council, retired LAPD.. see who else is police friendly on the council and reach out to them. The POA there supports certain candidates and dont want to hear that the ones who bought them off aren't performing.
The fact that a 100K porsche was taken in what is looking like an inside job is embarrassing to them. They need to dedicate a resource. I can't tell you how much as a police supervisor, I didn't want calls from outside the building.
Email the Chief or make an appointment. When they say, what is it regarding, "Citizen dis-satisfaction and a Sergeant or Captain will not suffice".. that gets you to a commander / deputy chief. Lots of Cops are "car guys" at least the older ones... you may get a sympathetic ear.
The HBPD page has an email for property crimes detectives, but you will get more with a call.
If you want me to walk you through how that conversation should go reach out. Im a former prosecutor as well, I speak the lingo.
Robert
This is pretty much how we got the calipers back that Porsche Classic sent to our old address. Once the Chief of Police got involved, things started moving quickly.
Posted by: ClayPerrine Sep 1 2022, 09:11 AM
I sure hope the car gets returned.
I just spoke with James Patrick of Patrick Motorports to BOLO. James' parts are all over that car, he knows the car. I hope it does not come to this but James said $225k to build a new one, ouch. Thats a delta of 2.3x from the Hagerty insured value. Again I hope it gets returned and don't want to get all legal if'n you know what I mean.
I had the same issue with Hagerty. I have an appraisal that is way more than I have for insurance on my car. Hagerty won't insure a 914 conversion car for anything close to the appraised value because they can't find "comparables". But the reason they can't find comparables is because they won't insure it for the appraised value.
I moved to Hagerty from State Farm because State Farm completely dropped agreed value coverage. My agent told me they are going to become a reseller of Hagerty insurance, so they had to drop coverage as not to compete.
I also have a tracker on the car. They are GEGO luggage trackers. Rechargable via USB, and they work anywhere in the world. I have them wired into the car's electrical system so they stay charged. But the internal battery will keep them running for about 40 hours on the high resolution setting. So even if the battery on the car is disconnected, they still keep broadcasting.
The yearly fee for the service is not cheap. But it provides piece of mind for our cars.
Clay
Posted by: eric9144 Sep 1 2022, 12:12 PM
I sure hope the car gets returned.
I just spoke with James Patrick of Patrick Motorports to BOLO. James' parts are all over that car, he knows the car. I hope it does not come to this but James said $225k to build a new one, ouch. Thats a delta of 2.3x from the Hagerty insured value. Again I hope it gets returned and don't want to get all legal if'n you know what I mean.
I had the same issue with Hagerty. I have an appraisal that is way more than I have for insurance on my car. Hagerty won't insure a 914 conversion car for anything close to the appraised value because they can't find "comparables". But the reason they can't find comparables is because they won't insure it for the appraised value.
Actually @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=1143 I'm not sure when you went through this exercise with them but I got a letter from Patrick Motorsports on my car (VIN and Value specific) when I bought it, where James Patrick stated $195k to recreate and Hagerty insured it to that amount. Surely worth revisiting, also this was 4-5yrs ago now and the prices have only increased.
Posted by: mepstein Sep 1 2022, 12:46 PM
Comparables are usually sold cars, not other cars insured values.
Posted by: narino Sep 1 2022, 02:07 PM
This is gut wrenching. I'm so sorry you are going through this. I hope she gets found and brought back home safely.
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=1143 I've been considering something similar for my cars. I'm looking at the GV50MA at Optimustracker.com . It reports every 30 seconds and on corners. Looks to be slightly more expensive monthly than the GeGo. But seems to be another good option.
Posted by: NARP74 Sep 1 2022, 05:02 PM
Bump, this needs to stay near the top!
Posted by: Robarabian Sep 1 2022, 05:52 PM
Jorge,
See my other post titled "In light of Marv's car"...
This is gut wrenching. I'm so sorry you are going through this. I hope she gets found and brought back home safely.
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=1143 I've been considering something similar for my cars. I'm looking at the GV50MA at Optimustracker.com . It reports every 30 seconds and on corners. Looks to be slightly more expensive monthly than the GeGo. But seems to be another good option.
Posted by: second wind Sep 1 2022, 10:08 PM
I am shocked and appalled by this post and my heart goes out to the owner....I am also deeply alarmed. So there hasn't been any security camera footage of this criminal even on the streets where the car was spotted driving around? There has to be something somewhere, eh? So good luck to you on getting your baby back. So now what do we all do? I live in a nice neighborhood but every home has been burglarized over the past couple of years. These are high end homes in the hills above Los Angeles. I park my '73 2.0 way up on the driveway but given this story is my car safe anywhere? If someone wants it I guess they will get it? You literally can forklift our cars on to a flat bed in no time....I believe at this point any 914 is a target....Whisky Tango Foxtrot....???
gg
Posted by: ConeDodger Sep 1 2022, 10:19 PM
So sorry Marv. I remember reading about what you went through to get this car built. I am heartbroken for you.
Posted by: mgp4591 Sep 2 2022, 12:15 AM
Two other cars were moved, touched. A gate opened/closed, touched. Doors/knobs other surfaces touched. Did perp wear gloves and if not have prints been lifted?
The hot ticket around here is to use gloves and spray the surfaces with WD40... no chances of leaving any traces. I've had a couple of friends lose valuable JDM cars to this same MO.
Posted by: PanelBilly Sep 2 2022, 09:27 AM
This upsets me to no end. I can feel for your loss. I’m going to look into these tracking units for my car and see just how much more I need to pay to up my agreed value.
Maybe an alarm is the answer.
Posted by: TRS63 Sep 2 2022, 01:17 PM
Oh no, so sorry for you, such a special car..I hope you will get it back soon, fingers crossed !
Antoine
Posted by: Marv's3.6six Sep 2 2022, 04:42 PM
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=3165 I spent 32 years in SO Cal law enforcement.
I was the supervisor of the property crime / auto theft unit.
Make noise with the Property Crimes Detective Sergeant and / lieutenant. Lieutenants are lazy, they don't want work or calls, so they will tell the Sergeant to solve it. Ask me how I know. (Yes I ultimately promoted but was not one of "them."
HB used to have Jim Katapodis who was on the council, retired LAPD.. see who else is police friendly on the council and reach out to them. The POA there supports certain candidates and dont want to hear that the ones who bought them off aren't performing.
The fact that a 100K porsche was taken in what is looking like an inside job is embarrassing to them. They need to dedicate a resource. I can't tell you how much as a police supervisor, I didn't want calls from outside the building.
Email the Chief or make an appointment. When they say, what is it regarding, "Citizen dis-satisfaction and a Sergeant or Captain will not suffice".. that gets you to a commander / deputy chief. Lots of Cops are "car guys" at least the older ones... you may get a sympathetic ear.
The HBPD page has an email for property crimes detectives, but you will get more with a call.
If you want me to walk you through how that conversation should go reach out. Im a former prosecutor as well, I speak the lingo.
Robert
Thank you for the tips. Bruce Powers owner of Autowerkes is heading this part up. He has contacts in HBPD that are also his customer.
Posted by: NARP74 Sep 3 2022, 02:07 PM
Bump for good luck!
Posted by: SO.O.C914er Sep 3 2022, 03:48 PM
So sorry Marv all of us in So Cal that know your car will have our heads up looking for this amazing 914…..Paul
Posted by: Don76 Sep 4 2022, 09:47 PM
I just put an APB out in my neighborhood.
Posted by: rgalla9146 Sep 5 2022, 04:31 AM
Terrible.
Posted by: Marv's3.6six Sep 5 2022, 09:05 AM
Thanks everyone, no new news as of today. Please keep eyes out for her.
Posted by: slowrodent Sep 5 2022, 10:44 AM
Because it's such a nicely sorted car, if someone were planning to keep it around and keep in intact, it would be quite easy to wrap it and change the color with minimal effort....Just sayin'... I hope you manage to recover it soon. It's a despicable act for sure.
Posted by: NARP74 Sep 6 2022, 08:56 AM
BTT
Posted by: NARP74 Sep 8 2022, 03:30 PM
Any updates?
Posted by: Hoppie944s2 Sep 9 2022, 07:35 AM
I would also check with the ports (US Customs) as most likely if they don't cut it up they might look to ship it out of the country.
Posted by: jdamiano Sep 9 2022, 08:43 AM
I would also check with the ports (US Customs) as most likely if they don't cut it up they might look to ship it out of the country.
Probably wouldn’t come this far east but Tommy Williams works a lot of the Jaxport outbound car ships and is keeping an eye out.
Posted by: raynekat Sep 10 2022, 04:36 PM
Can US Customs be notified to look out for this car at all the shipping ports along with air freight?
Still heart broken about this.
A new car is easily replaced.
No so much with a custom like this.
Fingers crossed that something breaks soon on this case.
Posted by: Marv's3.6six Sep 10 2022, 05:24 PM
No news. I'm dealing with the Insurance companies now.... not fun.
Posted by: sixnotfour Sep 10 2022, 05:59 PM
I cant even imagine.. So Sad..
Posted by: Pezz Sep 11 2022, 04:49 AM
Very sorry for your loss Marv. Try to keep hope that it will be found intact. You have this entire 914 community looking for it. Most shipping companies will ask for the title and registration. Maybe it is worth alerting the shipping companies in your area.
May the force be with you. 
Posted by: horizontally-opposed Sep 12 2022, 11:46 AM
Awful to see this thread continue with no (good) resolution, Marv. If you're at the insurance stage, I hope some clause that will allow you to buy the car should it be found is included.
It's so strange when cars like this get stolen—as they're custom enough to be "celebrities" of a kind. Short of taking some parts out, what else can you do with them? Unlike stock cars, there are enough defining "marks" on the car that someone in the community is bound to recognize the car sooner or later—particularly with the advent of camera phones, social media, etc. And a whole car isn't very easy to dispose of.
Here's to holding out hope that you get this car back…
Posted by: Steve Sep 12 2022, 02:35 PM
Awful to see this thread continue with no (good) resolution, Marv. If you're at the insurance stage, I hope some clause that will allow you to buy the car should it be found is included.
It's so strange when cars like this get stolen—as they're custom enough to be "celebrities" of a kind. Short of taking some parts out, what else can you do with them? Unlike stock cars, there are enough defining "marks" on the car that someone in the community is bound to recognize the car sooner or later—particularly with the advent of camera phones, social media, etc. And a whole car isn't very easy to dispose of.
Here's to holding out hope that you get this car back…
Really weird. When Sir Andy's 3.6 914 was stolen, they ended up leaving it on the side of the road. Was it too hot to strip or try to sell?
Posted by: Lucky9146 Sep 12 2022, 09:05 PM
Sorry to hear you are at the insurance stage.
You have your thread to document it for them.
Hopefully lots of receipts. My insurance company worked with me with having those. Of course if you did a lot of the labor that will not count unfortunately.
There have been a few GT Tributes on BAT and sometimes they post their receipts for work done, so maybe you could draw from some of those as documentation. Especially if they were more current reflecting todays costs.
Best of luck on your journey, I sure wish your car would just show up unharmed instead tho.
Posted by: JamesM Nov 8 2022, 07:02 PM
Did anyone ever post the VIN on this car so we can keep an eye out should it pop up for sale somewhere?
Posted by: Steve Nov 8 2022, 07:28 PM
Did anyone ever post the VIN on this car so we can keep an eye out should it pop up for sale somewhere?
9140432262
It’s posted in his bio. Just click on his user ID
Posted by: JamesM Nov 9 2022, 10:40 AM
Did anyone ever post the VIN on this car so we can keep an eye out should it pop up for sale somewhere?
9140432262
It’s posted in his bio. Just click on his user ID
Thanks
Just wanted to be sure it was searchable in the forums
Actual 6 vin too, thats rough.
Posted by: Marv's3.6six Nov 9 2022, 11:12 AM
Hey everyone I guess I am out of here. My car was classified as a "total loss" so it is officially gone gone gone. I guess the good out of this is I was able to negotiate with the insurance carrier for the shop that lost it and ended up getting 9X my original purchase price, not bad. I am thinking of replacing her with a 993, have always loved the C2S and C4S anybody know of a nice low mileage example? Y'all teeners take care out there.
Posted by: NARP74 Nov 9 2022, 11:15 AM
So sorry this happened. A terrible way to go out. Good luck
Any closing thoughts for the rest of us? Tips and tricks for insurance, the law, legal, or auto shops?
Posted by: Steve Nov 9 2022, 11:36 AM
Hey everyone I guess I am out of here. My car was classified as a "total loss" so it is officially gone gone gone. I guess the good out of this is I was able to negotiate with the insurance carrier for the shop that lost it and ended up getting 9X my original purchase price, not bad. I am thinking of replacing her with a 993, have always loved the C2S and C4S anybody know of a nice low mileage example? Y'all teeners take care out there.
Sorry to see you go Marv, but we know you wanted to sell it anyway. Hopefully we will see you again at the next PCA event.
Regarding a 993, do a WTB on Pelican and Rennlist. I have seen some nice one's at Cars & Coffee in Tustin, but not for sale. I will ask around.
I used to own a 96 C2 cabrilolet tiptronic. I sold it because i hated the four speed auto. Not enough gears for a heavy car. In hindsight i should of kept it and converted it to a six speed.
Check out this page for info on maintenance and upgrades.
https://p-car.com/
Posted by: JmuRiz Nov 9 2022, 12:55 PM
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1997-porsche-911-carrera-coupe-12/
But I'm sure it will have the BaT tax (last minute price spike) before it's done.
I should have grabbed a 993 C2S Tiptronic when they were $50k a couple years back, oh well.
Posted by: DTMLGND Nov 9 2022, 03:35 PM
Hey everyone I guess I am out of here. My car was classified as a "total loss" so it is officially gone gone gone. I guess the good out of this is I was able to negotiate with the insurance carrier for the shop that lost it and ended up getting 9X my original purchase price, not bad. I am thinking of replacing her with a 993, have always loved the C2S and C4S anybody know of a nice low mileage example? Y'all teeners take care out there.
Just a sad way to go out, but at least you're staying with the Marque. A beautiful example you had and wished I'd have seen it in person.
Good luck in your next journey!
btw - Here's the only car I thought of when you mentioned 993, it has miles but sell-sorted and apparently a well known enthusiast. I've only met him through IG, not person.
https://rennlist.com/forums/market/1322267
PaulPosted by: Marv's3.6six Nov 9 2022, 04:18 PM
So sorry this happened. A terrible way to go out. Good luck
Any closing thoughts for the rest of us? Tips and tricks for insurance, the law, legal, or auto shops?
Tips... If you have agreed value insurance make sure you stay on top of the valuation $, the market for teeners is changing upwards quickly. Additionally if you have a high $ car make sure you can prove the value with receipts and or an appraisal.
Posted by: Marv's3.6six Nov 9 2022, 04:53 PM
For those in the know... would like to find 993 C2S or C4S, Coupe, 6 speed, relatively low miles 30k to 50k. No cabriolet no Tiptronic. Thanks.
Posted by: SO.O.C914er Nov 9 2022, 09:26 PM
Very sad we won’t have your bad ass silver car at our events. Now we won’t have Marv in a replacement 914 ouch. Cheers Marv I hope to see you around
Posted by: raynekat Nov 9 2022, 11:45 PM
I would look at BaT (although it won't be cheap), but some beautiful low mileage 993's come online often.
Also check out the classifieds through PCA.
Posted by: infraredcalvin Nov 10 2022, 07:09 PM
Have you driven the new 911? I was surprised at how much the base 911 reminded me of the older cars, but without the old car worries. I love the 993 era cars, but at current pricing, I think I’ve ranked a current model over the 993.
Good luck with whatever path you choose to take! Please chime back to show us what you ended up with and ultimately why, I’d really like to hear your take.
Posted by: campbellcj Nov 10 2022, 07:32 PM
Really glad you were able to get to a reasonable settlement! This definitely woke up a bunch of us here as to beefing up our insurance and our garage/storage security.
Posted by: Cairo94507 Nov 11 2022, 07:53 AM
So sad that this beautiful car was not located.
I love you choice of replacement- I had a '97 993 coupe and loved it. I would like to find a '98 993 2S coupe that has not been messed with. The 993, to me, represents the most beautiful body the 911 has ever had.
Posted by: sb914 Nov 11 2022, 08:28 AM
So sad .
Posted by: Jett Nov 11 2022, 08:41 AM
So sad that this beautiful car was not located.
I love you choice of replacement- I had a '97 993 coupe and loved it. I would like to find a '98 993 2S coupe that has not been messed with. The 993, to me, represents the most beautiful body the 911 has ever had.
+1 love the 993 but WAY out of my price range.
This one is nice and currently at 86K but suspect it sells closer to 125k. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1996-porsche-911-carrera-4s-80/
Most of the 993 non-turbo with 50K miles sell for roughly $125 - $150k, I suspect lower miles will go for much more.
Posted by: Chris H. Nov 11 2022, 09:06 AM
Sorry Marv but glad to hear you worked out the insurance thing. It was an amazing build that is well documented. One of the best outlaw 914-6's ever created. No one can take that away from you .
Posted by: dflesburg Nov 12 2022, 09:32 AM
If you are looking for a great 914 type car, I strongly recommend a 981 Spyder or even an S. (depending on budget) What a fantastic car and when you get it up on a lift and remove all the hemp coverings, its like working on a new 914-6.
I love my spyder.
Posted by: Maltese Falcon Nov 13 2022, 01:11 PM
From an event over at PECLA/ Carson CA. a couple years ago...just a stunning car !
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