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Posted by: mb911 Dec 7 2022, 09:52 AM
Good morning everyone. I am trying to gauge interest in GT lines. I had 2 previous runs made and now looking at a 3rd run. Likely would do these in mild steel and yellow zinc plate them this go around as Stainless was over kill and 25% more than last time with no benefit really as the ends were steel anyway.
Thoughts?
Posted by: T.Rick6 Dec 7 2022, 10:04 AM
I'm in; been hounding you for the past year for a set; hopefully more will chime in so I can actually get a set for my factory 6. Thank you again for doing these! 
Todd
Posted by: Cairo94507 Dec 7 2022, 10:11 AM
I have a set of GT hard lines in my car and love them. If you are doing or planning on doing a 6 conversion, this is the way to go IMHO. Of course, Ben's stuff is top drawer.
Posted by: PaulFV8 Dec 7 2022, 10:14 AM
I’m in for a set. Thanks
Posted by: mb911 Dec 7 2022, 10:59 AM
For reference here is what they looked like last time. As I said they were stainless but this go around mild steel. Even thinking of using a 26mm fitting instead of a 30. The 30mm hose doesn’t go into the front trunk easily.
Posted by: Cairo94507 Dec 7 2022, 11:53 AM
Beautiful 
Posted by: Justinp71 Dec 7 2022, 04:16 PM
These give additional cooling over rubber lines correct? Any idea how much they help?
Posted by: troth Dec 7 2022, 04:30 PM
I am almost too afraid to ask, but have you priced brass like the originals? Or is it a matter of sourcing the correct size tubing? I will be needing a set for my car to go with PMB’s new oil cooler replica.
Posted by: mb911 Dec 7 2022, 04:49 PM
I am almost too afraid to ask, but have you priced brass like the originals? Or is it a matter of sourcing the correct size tubing? I will be needing a set for my car to go with PMB’s new oil cooler replica.
Brass is waaay to expensive. The stainless version were $650 a set a great deal at that. I would expect these depending on interest to be less then that and come zinc plated
Posted by: flyer86d Dec 7 2022, 04:53 PM
Add me. I’m in!
Charlie
Posted by: markhoward Dec 7 2022, 05:10 PM
Interested..
Posted by: The Double S Dec 7 2022, 05:11 PM
I'm interested!
Posted by: mepstein Dec 7 2022, 07:43 PM
These give additional cooling over rubber lines correct? Any idea how much they help?
Maybe a little bit but they don’t really get airflow. I would use a good cooler. I already have a set for my next build. No regrets. Ben’s parts are always worth the money.
Posted by: BillJ Dec 7 2022, 09:06 PM
Ben. Can never say no to your work. Timing?
Posted by: saladin Dec 8 2022, 12:08 AM
Hello Ben,
Interested as this will likely be my plan B.
Thanks,
Ken
Posted by: targa72e Dec 8 2022, 12:33 AM
interested as well.
john
Posted by: mb911 Dec 8 2022, 04:12 AM
Ben. Can never say no to your work. Timing?
Would be about 6 weeks once I give the green light for the bender. It’s a substantial investment so want to make sure there is enough interest
Posted by: racer914 Dec 8 2022, 08:02 AM
I'd be interested too.
Posted by: mb911 Dec 8 2022, 04:07 PM
So 11 interested plus 2 others outside of the forum?
Posted by: T.Rick6 Dec 8 2022, 04:56 PM
Looks like it, that’s a decent amount of takers 
If you figure out a price point and would like a deposit please let us know.
Thanks again for making another round of hard lines, not to sound snobby but I really really didn’t want to use rubber lines on my 6.
Todd
Posted by: Beach914 Dec 9 2022, 06:57 PM
Im in
Posted by: TMM914 Dec 9 2022, 09:22 PM
Ben count me in for a set.
Thanks Todd
Posted by: mb911 Dec 10 2022, 07:08 AM
Sounds great. I am on short getaway with my wife early next week. Final decision will be late next week and then I will request a $100 deposit for all interested parties and of course final pricing. I don’t have a way to quote zinc plating without a finished part in hand so will just do final price without plating and then deal with plating for those interested once I have them in hand.
Any thoughts on 30, 26mm or AN fittings on these? Last time was 30 and that has its own issues as previously mentioned even though that is what the factory GT lines had.
Posted by: Graydingo Dec 10 2022, 09:11 AM
Add me in for a set of lines. I like the idea of keeping the original 30mm fittings.
Posted by: BadToTheBown Dec 10 2022, 09:28 PM
I'm interested as well....
Posted by: mb911 Dec 11 2022, 04:31 PM
Ok looks like we are getting to the magic number.
Posted by: bahnzai Dec 14 2022, 06:06 AM
Ben,
Please put me down for a set too, and let me know when to send the deposit.
I guess I would vote for the 26mm or whatever will make this easier to run. I needed to bite the bullet and reroute my oil lines anyway…
Thanks!
Danny
Posted by: Mark Henry Dec 14 2022, 09:00 PM
I'm in for a set, maybe 2 depending on price point.
I can't see the 26mm return line being an issue, basically it's a 1" or AN-16 size equivalent.
Posted by: mb911 Dec 15 2022, 09:04 AM
To be clear the 26mm fitting option would be the same size as the engine case fitting on a stock -6. The issue is I need to see if there are adapters out there like there are for the 30mm fittings.
Posted by: mate914 Dec 15 2022, 09:15 AM
Please put me in for one.
Matt
Posted by: mepstein Dec 15 2022, 10:15 AM
I'm in for a set, maybe 2 depending on price point.
I can't see the 26mm return line being an issue, basically it's a 1" or AN-16 size equivalent.
Mark - You're back
Posted by: peteyd Dec 15 2022, 11:02 AM
I think I would like a set as well.
Pete
Posted by: BillJ Jan 2 2023, 02:05 PM
Are these happening?
Posted by: mb911 Jan 2 2023, 05:10 PM
Are these happening?
They will. I currently working on 2 different 914 projects out of state for customers. Should be done by this Friday and get rolling on this.
Posted by: BillJ Jan 2 2023, 05:21 PM
Thanks a bunch. I am hoping to get them in time to install ahead of engine getting done by end of February (fingers crossed). Will need to know end fittings you landed on so i can source the right fittings.foe.the soft lines.
Posted by: mb911 Jan 6 2023, 04:10 PM
Ok we have semi finalized costs and pricing on this run will be $695. I will be pm’ing those that showed interest and how to put deposits down etc.
Posted by: mb911 Jan 7 2023, 03:24 PM
@racer914
@Beach914
@TMM914
@Graydingo
@BadToTheBown
@bahnzai
@markhoward
@TheDoubleS
@BillJ
@Saladin
@targa72e
@Mark Henry
@mate914
@petyd
@T.Rick6
@PaulFV8
@Justinp71
@troth
@flyer86d
I have sent PM's to all of you with the details. I appreciate your pateince with me on this this. it is a substantial undertaking to get another run of these done.
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Posted by: mb911 Jan 7 2023, 03:25 PM
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Posted by: bahnzai Jan 8 2023, 03:53 PM
Ben,
PM and Deposit is sent: my preference 914-6 GT hardlines, 26mm fittings, plated option
(if 26mm fittings becomes an issue, I will switch to 30mm)
Thanks!!
Posted by: markhoward Jan 8 2023, 05:14 PM
Deposit sent
Posted by: Long_ago Jan 8 2023, 11:17 PM
Yes I'd also like a set.
Ben please let me know how to get the deposit to you.
Thanks.
Posted by: Cairo94507 Jan 9 2023, 07:11 AM
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=25541 HB- great call. You will love the GT lines on your car.
Posted by: mb911 Jan 10 2023, 08:21 AM
Yes I'd also like a set.
Ben please let me know how to get the deposit to you.
Thanks.
PM sent
Posted by: mb911 Jan 10 2023, 08:24 AM
Well to say that deposit system went seamless couldn't be further from the truth. Some people sent money with no information. Then some sent PM's that I can't tie to the payments.
I sent everyone my email address could you please send me an email with your information so I can tie it to the payments.
PS we are only talking about half to people that were interested came forward with a deposit. Please email me with your intent so I can have the proper amount of parts machined and bent.
Posted by: mb911 Jan 10 2023, 08:26 AM
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please see my last post
Posted by: mb911 Jan 10 2023, 08:27 AM
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Please see my second to last post.
Posted by: Graydingo Jan 10 2023, 09:35 AM
Sent deposit, and an email with all info.
-Duane
Posted by: sixnotfour Jan 10 2023, 07:35 PM
my preference 914-6 GT hardlines, 26mm fittings, Bare...
Posted by: racer914 Jan 11 2023, 03:40 PM
Deposit and information sent via PayPal. Thanks Ben!
Posted by: mb911 Jan 12 2023, 06:35 PM
Just an update. I have 14 sets with deposits we are at the point of no return if you will. Still have to finalize fittings as they priced out way more than we anticipated but working through that now
Posted by: Mark Henry Jan 22 2023, 03:16 PM
Sent my deposit by PP, just put my name and what it's for in the notes.
Let me know if you need my shipping info at this time.
Just an update. I have 14 sets with deposits we are at the point of no return if you will. Still have to finalize fittings as they priced out way more than we anticipated but working through that now
Posted by: mb911 Jan 22 2023, 04:58 PM
Sent my deposit by PP, just put my name and what it's for in the notes.
Let me know if you need my shipping info at this time.
Just an update. I have 14 sets with deposits we are at the point of no return if you will. Still have to finalize fittings as they priced out way more than we anticipated but working through that now
No shipping just yet. Fittings are about 5 weeks and lines are about the same. Not sure on plating costs yet as I need them in hand 1st to have a good firm quote
Posted by: mb911 Mar 17 2023, 05:17 AM
Ok update. Oil lines are bent. They now need to ship to me for final fitting welding, testing, and plating for those wanting them. I will be looking for the balance to be paid very shortly. 
Posted by: Cairo94507 Mar 17 2023, 07:51 AM
That's going to be a whole lot of happy owners once the GT hard lines and oil coolers are installed.
Posted by: horizontally-opposed Mar 17 2023, 09:47 AM
These are beautiful work, Ben. As always. Also love the thinking around 26mm vs 30mm.
Seeing the sets stacked up has me thinking about "completing the loop" to create a 911-style loop cooler for those of us with smaller sixes running within reasonable temps (180-210 F) and little interest in losing front trunk utility, lay-down spare, etc. Those loop coolers added significant oil capacity/heat sink, kept the trunk entirely intact, and worked well on a lot of 911s. I recall Bruce Anderson actually preferred loop coolers for many US use cases where you weren't running big speeds for cooling air as in Germany. Back roads, sitting in traffic, autocross, etc.
How hard would it be? And can you imagine a loop (or two?) that makes sense whether in the wheel well(s) or under the front trunk, behind the spoiler? I am running an LE spoiler, and it seems like there's space behind it. 
Terrible idea? Of course, it would come down to whether there others who might be interested in something like this?
Posted by: mb911 Mar 18 2023, 07:03 AM
These are beautiful work, Ben. As always. Also love the thinking around 26mm vs 30mm.
Seeing the sets stacked up has me thinking about "completing the loop" to create a 911-style loop cooler for those of us with smaller sixes running within reasonable temps (180-210 F) and little interest in losing front trunk utility, lay-down spare, etc. Those loop coolers added significant oil capacity/heat sink, kept the trunk entirely intact, and worked well on a lot of 911s. I recall Bruce Anderson actually preferred loop coolers for many US use cases where you weren't running big speeds for cooling air as in Germany. Back roads, sitting in traffic, autocross, etc.
How hard would it be? And can you imagine a loop (or two?) that makes sense whether in the wheel well(s) or under the front trunk, behind the spoiler? I am running an LE spoiler, and it seems like there's space behind it.
Terrible idea? Of course, it would come down to whether there others who might be interested in something like this?
The problem is these lines penetrate into the cabin of the car. It would be a total rewrite.
Posted by: sixnotfour Mar 19 2023, 01:14 PM
PMB now offers a GT replica oil cooler..
https://pmbperformance.com/products/front-oil-cooler-for-porsche-914-models-1970-76
Posted by: mb911 Mar 19 2023, 01:25 PM
PMB now offers a GT replica oil cooler..
https://pmbperformance.com/products/front-oil-cooler-for-porsche-914-models-1970-76
And these lines as well. We are partnering up on these
Posted by: horizontally-opposed Mar 19 2023, 08:45 PM
The problem is these lines penetrate into the cabin of the car. It would be a total rewrite.
^ Got it. Still beautiful work…
Posted by: mb911 Mar 20 2023, 02:36 PM
Just got word fittings are done now to get the lines in my hands
Posted by: mb911 Mar 20 2023, 02:48 PM
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Your balance is now due. I will be welding fittings on starting next week. Please confirm fitting size. If you want plating that is extra and I don’t know how much that is yet but the balance is still due and we will figure out plating after the fact.
Posted by: mb911 Mar 20 2023, 02:51 PM
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Your balance is now due. I will be welding fittings on starting next week. Please confirm fitting size. If you want plating that is extra and I don’t know how much that is yet but the balance is still due and we will figure out plating after the fact.
Posted by: racer914 Mar 20 2023, 04:33 PM
Balance sent via PayPal. Thanks Ben!
Posted by: bahnzai Mar 20 2023, 05:25 PM
balance sent via Paypal. I would like the 26mm fittings and the plating (for extra cost).
Thanks!
Danny
Posted by: Graydingo Mar 20 2023, 06:27 PM
Balance sent via Paypal. I want the 30mm fittings and will pay extra for the plating. Would like yellow zinc if possible.
Posted by: BillJ Mar 20 2023, 09:53 PM
Money sent. 30mm. Zinc plating
Posted by: T.Rick6 Mar 21 2023, 07:22 AM
Balance sent via P/P, 26mm plated please
Todd
Posted by: markhoward Mar 21 2023, 08:23 PM
Balance sent. Will want anodized option and most likely 26mm fittings. I assume hoses for 26mm fittings are not a problem to find but need to look into it. Info on where to source is appreciated.
Posted by: mb911 Apr 3 2023, 02:33 PM
Update just picked up 300 fittings today. Now it will happen much faster
Posted by: mate914 Apr 3 2023, 06:51 PM
Matt
Posted by: Optimusglen Apr 3 2023, 06:53 PM
Looking good! If I had any use for an oil cooler I'd be in line, as it sits I can get enough heat in the oil with just the case-mounted cooler.
Posted by: mb911 Apr 16 2023, 03:08 PM
1st set of lines are going to the plater tomorrow. I hope they will be done in a week
Posted by: mb911 Apr 17 2023, 01:06 PM
Just dropped off for plating. Cost is $100 per set. The first run will be done this week.
Posted by: mb911 Apr 24 2023, 12:22 PM
Here are some plated units 
Posted by: BillJ Apr 24 2023, 01:27 PM
Awesome! When can we get them?
Posted by: mb911 Apr 24 2023, 08:41 PM
Awesome! When can we get them?
Boxing tomorrow and hoping to get shipped out by Thursday. I will be contacting everyone about plating costs as they ship
Posted by: mb911 May 25 2023, 01:16 PM
These all have shipped now. Thanks again
Posted by: BillJ May 25 2023, 02:07 PM
Will share some install pics!!
Posted by: mb911 May 25 2023, 04:06 PM
Will share some install pics!!
Sounds good. The lead time will be much less moving forward
Posted by: mb911 Jun 13 2023, 02:32 PM
Anyone need a GT footwell cover? 
Posted by: BillJ Jun 13 2023, 04:03 PM
Mine are in! Funny enough cut off the 30mm to.add AN 12. Of course...
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Posted by: saladin Jun 13 2023, 10:13 PM
Hello Ben,
Count me in for a GT footwell cover.
Ken
Posted by: flyer86d Jun 14 2023, 06:19 AM
Ben,
I’ll go for a GT footwell cover.
Charlie
Posted by: Luke M Jun 14 2023, 07:46 AM
Hi Ben,
I'll take a GT footwell cover.
PM or text me the payment info.
Thanks,
Luke
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