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Posted by: TonyA Dec 18 2022, 11:16 AM

Does anyone know the weight of a tub. Completely stripped out. But with doors included. No glass nothing.
Thanks

Posted by: bdstone914 Dec 18 2022, 11:49 AM

My estimate is 400-500 pounds

Posted by: jettonjoshua Dec 18 2022, 12:08 PM

I agree. I’ve lifted and moved mine several times with 2 friends.

Posted by: nathanxnathan Dec 18 2022, 12:11 PM

Early doors vs late doors makes a big difference even when the whole tub is factored in. Late doors weigh a ton.

Posted by: mepstein Dec 18 2022, 01:22 PM

An early tub is right around 500 bare.

Posted by: nivekdodge Dec 18 2022, 05:48 PM

QUOTE(nathanxnathan @ Dec 18 2022, 01:11 PM) *

Early doors vs late doors makes a big difference even when the whole tub is factored in. Late doors weigh a ton.


Is that because of the "Ralph Nader" bar? or is the Window Mechanism that much heavier? I haven't opened them yet but when I carried them into the other garage I couldn't get there fast enough.

Kevin

Posted by: mate914 Dec 18 2022, 06:35 PM

QUOTE(TonyA @ Dec 18 2022, 12:16 PM) *

Does anyone know the weight of a tub. Completely stripped out. But with doors included. No glass nothing.
Thanks


500+ .... Why? What are you doing? hope all is well..

Matt

Posted by: mepstein Dec 18 2022, 09:21 PM

QUOTE(nivekdodge @ Dec 18 2022, 06:48 PM) *

QUOTE(nathanxnathan @ Dec 18 2022, 01:11 PM) *

Early doors vs late doors makes a big difference even when the whole tub is factored in. Late doors weigh a ton.


Is that because of the "Ralph Nader" bar? or is the Window Mechanism that much heavier? I haven't opened them yet but when I carried them into the other garage I couldn't get there fast enough.

Kevin

The crash bar is quite heavy. I’m guessing another 10 lbs.

Posted by: TonyA Dec 18 2022, 09:25 PM

QUOTE(mate914 @ Dec 18 2022, 07:35 PM) *

QUOTE(TonyA @ Dec 18 2022, 12:16 PM) *

Does anyone know the weight of a tub. Completely stripped out. But with doors included. No glass nothing.
Thanks


500+ .... Why? What are you doing? hope all is well..

Matt


I got the BB all stripped out and getting ready for paint. Need to pick up the tub off the lift and on to a cart.
Thanks

Posted by: nathanxnathan Dec 19 2022, 02:15 AM

QUOTE(nivekdodge @ Dec 18 2022, 03:48 PM) *

QUOTE(nathanxnathan @ Dec 18 2022, 01:11 PM) *

Early doors vs late doors makes a big difference even when the whole tub is factored in. Late doors weigh a ton.


Is that because of the "Ralph Nader" bar? or is the Window Mechanism that much heavier? I haven't opened them yet but when I carried them into the other garage I couldn't get there fast enough.

Kevin


Allegedly it's only a 10 lb difference with glass, but idk if I buy it. Early doors weigh almost nothing they're so light. Late doors seem like they weigh about 3–4x as much. I haven't actually weighed them though. Maybe it is like 5 vs 15 or 20 lbs? Seems like the late is more though. It seems like no big thing, but 2 doors, 20 lbs each, that's like 10% of the weight of the whole if it's 400 lb — Just really rough math there...

Posted by: Craigers17 Dec 19 2022, 05:35 AM

QUOTE(nathanxnathan @ Dec 19 2022, 03:15 AM) *

QUOTE(nivekdodge @ Dec 18 2022, 03:48 PM) *

QUOTE(nathanxnathan @ Dec 18 2022, 01:11 PM) *

Early doors vs late doors makes a big difference even when the whole tub is factored in. Late doors weigh a ton.


Is that because of the "Ralph Nader" bar? or is the Window Mechanism that much heavier? I haven't opened them yet but when I carried them into the other garage I couldn't get there fast enough.

Kevin


Allegedly it's only a 10 lb difference with glass, but idk if I buy it. Early doors weigh almost nothing they're so light. Late doors seem like they weigh about 3–4x as much. I haven't actually weighed them though. Maybe it is like 5 vs 15 or 20 lbs? Seems like the late is more though. It seems like no big thing, but 2 doors, 20 lbs each, that's like 10% of the weight of the whole if it's 400 lb — Just really rough math there...



Stole this from another World post:

"I just weighed an early and a late door. No handles and no panels.
All glass and window mech still in the door.

Early = 46lbs
Late = 54lbs "



Posted by: mlindner Dec 19 2022, 07:35 AM

Its got to be more then 10lbs. I switched mine out and the late doors weigh a ton compared to early. I do have a early door shell I could weigh if someone has a late shell to weigh and compare. Mark

Posted by: mepstein Dec 19 2022, 07:52 AM

QUOTE(mlindner @ Dec 19 2022, 08:35 AM) *

Its got to be more then 10lbs. I switched mine out and the late doors weigh a ton compared to early. I do have a early door shell I could weigh if someone has a late shell to weigh and compare. Mark

I agree. At least 10lbs. It feels like more when you move the doors around.

Posted by: VaccaRabite Dec 19 2022, 08:46 AM

When I mounted a stripped tub onto the rotisserie many years ago I had a person at each corner. It was heavy but not awful. About 500lbs is right. 2 strong people could load/unload a stripped chassis but it would be sketchy with lots of opportunity to get hurt if you are not smart about it.

Zach

Posted by: BeatNavy Dec 19 2022, 08:55 AM

I happen to have a stripped late door in the garage. I happen to have a bathroom scale. And I happen to have time on my hands (apparently).

Looks like a stripped late door checks in at 36 lbs. That's no glass, no window mechanism, no panel. I also stripped the coating inside the door, but the interior door latch is on it. Neither of those things would add or detract much, I would think.

Posted by: TonyA Dec 22 2022, 08:54 PM

QUOTE(BeatNavy @ Dec 19 2022, 09:55 AM) *

I happen to have a stripped late door in the garage. I happen to have a bathroom scale. And I happen to have time on my hands (apparently).

Looks like a stripped late door checks in at 36 lbs. That's no glass, no window mechanism, no panel. I also stripped the coating inside the door, but the interior door latch is on it. Neither of those things would add or detract much, I would think.


Merry Christmas Rob. Hey I forgot about the time we moved your tub. But I remembered it yesterday moving mine when I looked in the rear view mirror. driving.gif

Posted by: Ishley Dec 22 2022, 11:22 PM

I read that the tub stripped is ~500llbs. With doors maybe 580ish. Easy to quickly remove the doors with 13mm socket and extension.

The issue I would have with lifting it onto a cart is where to grab. I wouldn’t just position have a group and lift it because you can’t grab it anywhere without bending a panel. Maybe tow straps under the car with 4 people. Or lower it down to blocks dropped onto trans mounts and the suspension mounting area. Then you should be able to get a cart under it and alternate lifting the front and back to remove the blocks and set it on the cart.

I have mine stripped and on mounts at the trans mounts and suspension connection area. I lift it from the bottom when I want to unbolt that.

I built a tip over jig and 2 people can easily roll it on it side and back.

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=361149&hl=


Posted by: pek771 Dec 23 2022, 06:10 PM

My 70 was 1200 lb empty, no interior, no engine or trans. Suspension, wheels and tires were intact.

Posted by: PaulFV8 Dec 24 2022, 12:37 PM

I used this MK Tech formula car lift for my Spitfire tub with straps to the seat belt mounts and a forward crossmember. I'm planning to do the same with my 914 when it comes back from the painter. Attached Image

Posted by: mlindner Dec 25 2022, 08:37 AM

Ok BeatNavy, thanks for your help with late door weight of 36 lbs. The early door stripped came in at 22 lbs.....Soo, late door is 14 lbs heavier. Or the early door is a 40% reduction in weight. Best, Mark

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