I am providing some pictures and background on chemical dipping my 914.
I dropped my 914 chassis at the chemical dipper in September. To get the chassis prepared, I stripped everything off the chassis. Anything aluminum, like tags, has to be removed. Rockers panels cut open so heat transfer tubes can be removed. All nuts and bolts gone. The drain plugs are removed. I scrape off as much sealant as I can. Strip the sail cover. I stripped and cleaned off the doors, frunk, trunk, headlight covers and a few other small body parts which also got dipped. I used the door braces from Tangerine because I can adjust the distance and remount to the inside later. I drilled a few small holes in bracing tubes for draining per a request from the dippers.
After this was done, my daughter and I loaded it with a body cart onto a car trailer and took it for a drive. Once it gets to the chemical dippers, it gets lifted with a forklift and set in their lot to wait for its turn.
They started the chemical dip process this week. I got the first photos of the 914 chassis in a cage they built for a 914 they did a few months ago.
The chassis is pulled out of the hot caustic tank after 2 days. This is for paint and grease removal. This picture is right out of the tank before high pressure cleaning. I can see all the bondo and bodywork I have to address.
9 JANUARY UPDATE. They have finished the acid dip and high pressure washing. Bondo, adhesives from the vinyl top and factory Wurth sealant are all gone. Should be ready to deliver in a few days.
DaveB
That's a lot of work just too get to the dip process, I didn't realize some of those steps. It will save a bunch of time for you though. Keep the pics coming.
I had this done to a 280 SL I did. The car was cooked first @ 800 deg to cook off the paint, undercoating etc. that was left on the chassis after I completed the repairs. The acid dipped. washed and submerged in a vat of E-coat.
See post 61 on.
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=107923&st=60
Amazing. Looking forward to the next series of photos.
Just did my 912. Chem dip and then e-coat. Picking it up in a couple days. I was lucky because 67 and earlier have metal heater tubes. I believe Porsche switched to paper in 69.
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I dipped my 914 in the early 80's. I would recommend drilling holes in areas that are sealed up and squirt some type of rustproofing in there. It will rust from the inside out. My right suspension console was solid and while performing a hard right corner, the right rear suspension console ripped out due to rusting from the inside out. Back then, the only sheet metal available was primarily OEM.
It was pretty difficult spraying paint in all of the tight areas, you've got your work cut out for you. Hope you go back with the original color.
Keep the pictures coming! It's a long, arduous process but you'll get it done!
Cheers,
Chris
I spoke to the Porsche resto shop in my town last week about possibly media blasting one or more of my cars. They won't blast. They are trying to talk me into the dip/e-coat process. I guess they ship it out in the midwest somewhere. Budgetary quote of $8K to $10K, but I don't know what's included (e.g., shipping, prep, etc.).
I didn’t do the tub but had my doors, trunk and engine lid dipped. I also had the guy e-coat and blast a few other parts that wouldn’t fit in my blast cabinet too. Everything came out perfect. Really so nice to do the final repairs (had a few surprises) then sand and prime to seal
everything up until I it ready for paint. On the trunk lids I will have to add a little panel glue back but I don’t anticipate any issues.
It took 6 weeks to get everything back. I had it done by Redi-Strip in Roselle Il. They do both hot tank and sand blasting.
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=10825 That 912 came out great. With e-coat - my 914 is just not going to be that valuable. I'm not targeted this build for resale, so the level of dip I am getting meets what I need.
@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=8358 918-S. I enjoyed the thread on your build. Thanks for the link.
MetalWorks Paint and Rust Removal in Eugene is doing the dipping and they use a rust inhibitor, not an e-coat. I have a lot of metal work to do, so I prefer seeing it in white. My full price for the chemical dipping with the chassis, doors, frunk, trunk, engine cover, headlights and brackets was under $2800.
DaveB
A video sometime ago re chem dipping Nissan 240 Z in England near the coast with salt air. They said after dip nothing comes back out
Not for me, I would be concerned with the solution penetrating every portion of a spot welded seam. But on the other hand, most of our cars have survived a 1/2 century of little/no TLC so does it really matter especially when many of us are in the fourth quarter anyway.
Nice pictures from everyone on dipping a tub.
Last tub I had dipped was a 356, they had to drill some holes to ensure all the air pockets were gone. It was acid dipped, pressure washed, I think dipped again to neutralize and then pickled with a phosphate coating? It was a shop in Canada that did the work.
That was 5 years ago, and back then it was hard to find a place with tanks large enough for car tubs. Place I used also said they didn't like doing cars. To much work, they liked large construction projects (beams, trusses etc.)
Added an update to my first post. The chassis has finished acid dipping and rust inhibitor. Air drying then it's ready!!
DaveB
Looks very fresh, thanks for the update
Looks great! Get some primer on it next?
Man, just as clean as they come. What a perfect canvas for building the car of your dreams.
One of my favorite cars. Beautiful.
I wish I had known this was at the dippers when I dropped off my 914. Getting to see and photograph how the 300SL Coupe chassis was built in white is a rare opportunity.
DaveB
I have a question on the inner wheel well. This seems to be made of three layers. There is an inner sheet metal, what appears to be an inner material, like a stiffener and the outer sheet metal. The lower left are with the large rust spot in this rocker panel picture is what I am referring to:
I ground down the edges and took this picture prior to the chemical dipping. You can see this inner material appears to be all rusted.
I got the car back in my garage yesterday. I now look into an open area and clearly see the three layers. Can anyone tell me about this inner material? I can look down the inside of the wheel well and see the inner and outer metal is good and this in-between material is gone in most areas. This stiffer is only located on the side of the wheel well, not the top or bottom.
Thanks
DaveB
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