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Posted by: Rrrockhound Jan 28 2023, 11:30 AM

Is it safe to take out the engine with the car on a lift or will it (the car) be too front heavy and unstable when the engine is out?

Posted by: BeatNavy Jan 28 2023, 11:36 AM

Can't speak to your specific setup, or how you lift your car, but I remove the engine on mine using my scissor lift all the time. No issues. If you're putting a lot of torque on the front with the engine out, you can run something like a ratchet strap across through the door gaps/sills for insurance, I suppose.

Posted by: NARP74 Jan 28 2023, 11:40 AM

Talking about on a two post I assume?

Posted by: Rrrockhound Jan 28 2023, 11:45 AM

QUOTE(NARP74 @ Jan 28 2023, 12:40 PM) *

Talking about on a two post I assume?


Correct. Years ago I did it on jack stands but this is my first time doing it with the lift.

Posted by: NARP74 Jan 28 2023, 12:19 PM

If the gas tank is full and the spread on the arms is narrow, you might have an issue if like BeatNavy said you are really torqueing on something. Some will put a post of some kind up front just in case..

Posted by: ClayPerrine Jan 28 2023, 01:35 PM

I have had a 2 post lift for years, and I have NEVER had an issue with pulling an engine on a 914. In fact, it makes it easier. I just unhook everything but the engine mounts, lower it down and set the engine/transmission on jackstands. Then I unbold the motor mounts and lift the car off the engine.


Posted by: Cairo94507 Jan 28 2023, 02:03 PM

You could always place a jack under the nose or strap the rear of the car down if you are concerned- never hurts to be extra careful with cars on lifts. beerchug.gif

Posted by: mepstein Jan 28 2023, 03:33 PM

No issue on two post but I still use a deadman (like Cairo suggested) under the front so it’s not tippy. It can be made of 2x4. It’s just there to steady the car, not hold it up. Even a stack of milk crates will work. Just don’t forget it and lower the car or you will have problems.

Posted by: Rrrockhound Jan 28 2023, 03:35 PM

Thanks for the advice, guys. I'm just trying to avoid one of these:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VgglmbsPqYs

Posted by: wonkipop Jan 28 2023, 03:39 PM

QUOTE(Rrrockhound @ Jan 28 2023, 03:35 PM) *

Thanks for the advice, guys. I'm just trying to avoid one of these:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VgglmbsPqYs


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at least no one was under it.


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i do get nervous with my front wheel drive front engined renault on the two pole.
i do the @http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=10825 4x2 trick.

Posted by: 930cabman Jan 28 2023, 03:43 PM

QUOTE(Rrrockhound @ Jan 28 2023, 04:35 PM) *

Thanks for the advice, guys. I'm just trying to avoid one of these:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VgglmbsPqYs


Avoid at all cost, that's messy. So long as no one was hurt

I use my scissors often and have built a rolling "test stand" for firing the engine/trans prior to installing and rolling the assembly around the shop.

Posted by: mlindner Jan 28 2023, 04:05 PM

When I install my six on a scissor lift I added six bags of 60 lb. to the front trunk because it was cantilevered to much to the rear. Work fine.

Posted by: mepstein Jan 28 2023, 06:00 PM

We do lots of 911 engine drops and installs on a two post lift. A couple a week. Never an issue. Lifts are safe as long as you understand the basics. If you don’t, just get someone experienced to give you training. I trust lifts. I hate jack stands.

Posted by: GregAmy Jan 28 2023, 06:46 PM

QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Jan 28 2023, 02:35 PM) *

I have had a 2 post lift for years, and I have NEVER had an issue with pulling an engine on a 914.

Ditto. I use the stock four jack points and no issues with numerous engine drops onto my toolbox. - GA
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Posted by: Type 47 Jan 28 2023, 10:43 PM

Just installed engine today using the Tangerine Racing jack plate. I highly recommend using it. I was skeptical about the cost but after using it I would highly recommend using it.

Posted by: Superhawk996 Jan 28 2023, 11:02 PM

QUOTE(mepstein @ Jan 28 2023, 07:00 PM) *
Lifts are safe as long as you understand the basics.

Clearly, the corvette guy didn’t av-943.gif

Posted by: wonkipop Jan 29 2023, 02:17 AM

QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ Jan 28 2023, 11:02 PM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Jan 28 2023, 07:00 PM) *
Lifts are safe as long as you understand the basics.

Clearly, the corvette guy didn’t av-943.gif


they were in the corvette mode.
dynamically unstable. beer.gif

Posted by: 930cabman Jan 29 2023, 07:43 AM

QUOTE(wonkipop @ Jan 29 2023, 03:17 AM) *

QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ Jan 28 2023, 11:02 PM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Jan 28 2023, 07:00 PM) *
Lifts are safe as long as you understand the basics.

Clearly, the corvette guy didn’t av-943.gif


they were in the corvette mode.
dynamically unstable. beer.gif


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