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Posted by: Type 47 Mar 9 2023, 09:04 PM
Missouri is one of the many states that require a front license plate but I'm not a big fan of them for my 914 and Vette's.
I don't have a license plate frame on the front of my chrome 914 bumper, but have two square holes for plastic bolt inserts to bolt on the plates.
is there a method to put a euro plate on? If so, where would you get a plate?
Are there ways to cover up the square holes without a plate?
Posted by: CCE Mar 10 2023, 12:29 AM
Missouri is one of the many states that require a front license plate but I'm not a big fan of them for my 914 and Vette's.
I don't have a license plate frame on the front of my chrome 914 bumper, but have two square holes for plastic bolt inserts to bolt on the plates.
is there a method to put a euro plate on? If so, where would you get a plate?
Are there ways to cover up the square holes without a plate?
I purchased a holder on eBay
Here with my toll booth tag.
Posted by: mlindner Mar 10 2023, 06:28 AM
I'm taking a chance without one. Worried more about my speeding.
Posted by: rgalla9146 Mar 10 2023, 06:42 AM
On a chrome bumper I leave two fresh OE tin clips in the square holes.
They practically disappear.
NJ is a two plate state.
If you're not a jerk or a terrible offender you can usually get away with a
single plate.
Posted by: Geezer914 Mar 10 2023, 07:01 AM
In New Jersey if you register your car as antique and get the QQ antique plates you are only required to have 1 plate on the car. Good deal, free registration every 3 years, no inspection. 1500 miles per year??? Who is keeping track?
Posted by: Cairo94507 Mar 10 2023, 07:30 AM
I went to Ace Hardware and bought two chrome carriage bolts- they are a smooth crown top, and bolted them in. Looks 100% better than 2 holes.
I also bought a decal of my front license plate in the event I ever do get hassled, I could apply that and see if that works. 
Posted by: Front yard mechanic Mar 10 2023, 09:34 AM
You could try one of these
Posted by: Nacho Mar 10 2023, 09:37 AM
Front license plate 
Posted by: mxkinn01 Mar 10 2023, 09:50 AM
Like most states, here is the law in Nevada.
Nevada law requires most vehicles to display front and rear license plates at all times, except motorcycles and trailers, which require only a rear plate. You must display both plates if the vehicle is designed for a front plate or if the manufacturer offers an add-on bracket or frame.
Personally I thinks its BS and some tough cops will write the ticket every time, even if there is no provision to mount it (ask me how I know). That was 15ish years ago so hopefully they have lightened up a little since most new cars don't have mounting provisions. So for now I'll just run with one in front.
Posted by: CHIZ 914 Mar 10 2023, 10:04 AM
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Posted by: rhodyguy Mar 10 2023, 10:18 AM
Only on the rear for collector plates in WA. No yearly fees. Once and done. There are conditions and terms for using them that most people ignore. I use one of my WCR metal plates on the front.
Posted by: Garland Mar 10 2023, 12:41 PM
I went to Ace Hardware and bought two chrome carriage bolts- they are a smooth crown top, and bolted them in. Looks 100% better than 2 holes.
No front plate required in Michigan, and have used the bolts from ACE for years.
Posted by: euro911 Mar 10 2023, 12:52 PM
No front plate required in Michigan, and have used the bolts from ACE for years.
Another option:
Posted by: Type 47 Mar 10 2023, 06:35 PM
Thanks everyone. I looks like a trip to Autozone is in my future.
I've driven for over 20 years without a front plate and have had minimal issues. My wife got a ticket in her Caddy about a year ago. I paid (the non-moving violation, no points) and told her if she got another one I would pay that also.
I'm getting Historic Vehicle plates also.
Posted by: FlacaProductions Mar 10 2023, 06:40 PM
No front plate required in Michigan, and have used the bolts from ACE for years.
Another option:
I have those same caps in black for my black bumper
Posted by: Geezer914 Mar 10 2023, 07:08 PM
just use 1/4 inch carriage bolts.
Posted by: SKL1 Mar 11 2023, 02:45 PM
Never run a front plate on a car you need to drill holes in, but both 914's obviously came drilled so I also thought euro delivery front plates looked great... (and I guess this shows my opinion of P crests on 914's) 
Posted by: jims914 Mar 11 2023, 04:07 PM
Never run a front plate on a car you need to drill holes in, but both 914's obviously came drilled so I also thought euro delivery front plates looked great... (and I guess this shows my opinion of P crests on 914's)
Nothing.
Posted by: jims914 Mar 11 2023, 05:12 PM
Nothing.
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Posted by: PanelBilly Mar 11 2023, 05:28 PM
I got a ticket 40 years ago in WA for no front plate. I took it to court. The judge told me that durning WWII Washington decided to go to one plate but we’re debating if it should be on the front or back. The war ended before they made a decision, so they left the law alone. I had to pay the court minimum fee.
Posted by: wes Mar 18 2023, 06:26 PM
I don’t like ‘em besides that hole in my bumper mad for better use.
Posted by: fixer34 Mar 18 2023, 06:39 PM
Illinois is a 2-plate state, but with the number of Teslas I see with only a rear plate, I don't think it is enforced very much. On the other hand, it is a valid reason for getting pulled over and then they can look for any other infractions.
Don't poke the bear...
Posted by: Type 47 Mar 18 2023, 06:42 PM
Never run a front plate on a car you need to drill holes in, but both 914's obviously came drilled so I also thought euro delivery front plates looked great... (and I guess this shows my opinion of P crests on 914's)
very nice pair of 914's, the plates look great. As do the crests!
Posted by: Type 47 Mar 18 2023, 06:44 PM
Illinois is a 2-plate state, but with the number of Teslas I see with only a rear plate, I don't think it is enforced very much. On the other hand, it is a valid reason for getting pulled over and then they can look for any other infractions.
Don't poke the bear...
I get your point. I just think the damn bear has better things to do. than hassle you for no front plate.
Posted by: Type 47 Mar 18 2023, 06:45 PM
I got a ticket 40 years ago in WA for no front plate. I took it to court. The judge told me that durning WWII Washington decided to go to one plate but we’re debating if it should be on the front or back. The war ended before they made a decision, so they left the law alone. I had to pay the court minimum fee.
Thanks for sharing. good info to know.
Posted by: emerygt350 Mar 18 2023, 07:56 PM
My plate seems to be fine... 
Posted by: Gatornapper Mar 18 2023, 07:57 PM
Virginia is a 2-plate state, but I hated the boxy one on my Cayman S, and went with Europlate with exactly what's on my rear plate & registration.
I've been stopped 4 times for no plate - NEVER given a ticket. In fact one State Trooper & 1 county cop said they thought the plate looked appropriate on a Porsche.
Loaned my car to friend w/little money, cop pulled him on Christmas Eve for no plate (he was behind me driving his 2000 Corolla at 70mph) - lying State Trooper also gave him a ticket for 83 in 65. My friend knew nothing of the plate - I had to get attorney for him.
My attorney said in VA if you have what is on your registration, "VA" and current stickers, you can have them on a piece of cardboard and be legal.
Judge refused to rule, dismissed case, gave friend driving school after my testimony of truth.
Still - in VA a ticket for no front plate is NOT a moving violation, is ONE point, and a $35 fine.
I know many owners of cool cars, Vettes, Porsches, old cars - who refuse to put them on, and never get stopped. I also hear if your car does not have mounting bracket for a plate, and it damages cosmetics to put one on - they will not ticket you.
HTH with Virginia members.....
GN
Posted by: wonkipop Mar 18 2023, 08:19 PM
down here we must have front plates.
always have.
cops do more than cruise behind you to check the license plate numbers.
always have. stake outs. etc since the dawn of time.
these days -
its for all the speed cameras.
license plate recognition software.
the bastards used it during our world record bs lockdown over the vid.
they just pinged you with their in car camera from either direction.
didn't pull you over.
sent you the violation in the mail for the quarantine breach and fined you.
one thing you have on your side is you can probably resist all this stuff via the constitution or whatever it is you guys use to defend your rights.
we got no protection down here.
on the + side i have always had good plate numbers on the 914.
my old ill. plates were RR _ XXXX. ronny raygun. loved em.
now i got NME -XXX. new musical express. love em. 
but i got to admit, it would be better without them.
i run the newer slim line euro plates on my other cars.
look good. totally legal. reg. office offers them. you just got to pay more!
the best thing about the slimlines is they are sans the idiotic state slogans.
you know the thing. victoria - the moron state. victoria - down the dunny. etc
govt. has ways of making you pay and increasing revenue if you don't want to be a mass moron.
Posted by: ClayPerrine Mar 19 2023, 05:45 AM
Here in Texas front plates are mandatory, and if you get stopped they will give you a ticket for not having one. The exception are antique and classic plates.
One of the reasons for it is so they can use the front plate for a lidar target. Lots of new cars don't have a flat place on the front to reflect the laser. It also is used for the toll road billing. They take a picture of your plate, and send you the bill.
I run a front plate because I don't want the hassle of dealing with the cops. But there are lots of people out there that don't install them, so I don't know how much enforcement is done on it.
Posted by: BENBRO02 Mar 19 2023, 08:35 AM
I didn’t feel right installing a metal bracket and license plate on my fiberglass bumper so I went to the sign shop and had it printed on a vinyl bumper sticker.
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Posted by: burton73 Mar 19 2023, 12:54 PM
The front of #41
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Posted by: 76-914 Mar 19 2023, 02:48 PM
Nothing on my 914's but I'm not going to worry about it. A cop would need to be driving a Go Cart in order to see if I had a front plate or not. 
Posted by: barefoot Mar 20 2023, 07:40 AM
This plate was with car when I got it :
Posted by: Type 47 Mar 20 2023, 12:51 PM
I didn’t feel right installing a metal bracket and license plate on my fiberglass bumper so I went to the sign shop and had it printed on a vinyl bumper sticker.
Great idea! I know some states are going to this, I never thought to have a sign maker duplicate it to a bumper sticker.
Posted by: Cairo94507 Mar 20 2023, 04:26 PM
I mentioned this is Post 6, but here is a picture of the actual "plate" I received. It is made of a heavy vinyl and should last. I prefer not to install a front plate, but in the event I should get stubbed, I have a Plan B. I know nothing abut the company other than I found them on another car-site. I think I paid less than $100 delivered; hard to recall.
Looking at it, really for the first time, the CALIFORNIA looks a bit wonky. I might email them and send them the picture and see what they have to say. 
Posted by: euro911 Mar 25 2023, 06:41 PM
One of the reasons for it is so they can use the front plate for a lidar target. Lots of new cars don't have a flat place on the front to reflect the laser. It also is used for the toll road billing. They take a picture of your plate, and send you the bill.
I run a front plate because I don't want the hassle of dealing with the cops. But there are lots of people out there that don't install them, so I don't know how much enforcement is done on it.
1. I've never been to Texas.
2. My 1960s era black retro plates with yellow numbers are still in my safe - never been installed on my car, which has been in a restoration shop since 2019.
After receiving the 1st bill, I spoke with a TxTag employee on the phone. When I asked what the plates looked like on the offending vehicle, they told me they were white with dark numbers. Well, therein lies the error, those are not my plates
Also, the offending vehicle's plates are '64911' ... mine are '64 _ _ 911' (note 2 empty spaces between the 64 & the 911. Unfortunately, the CA DMV omitted the 2 empty spaces my title and registration documents, so TxTag keeps coming after me
I've also responded twice via mail, including pictures of my plates. I told them that I'm going to invoice them for my time if they don't stop sending me bills
Posted by: Jim C Mar 27 2023, 08:10 AM
Here in Texas front plates are mandatory, and if you get stopped they will give you a ticket for not having one. The exception are antique and classic plates.
One of the reasons for it is so they can use the front plate for a lidar target. Lots of new cars don't have a flat place on the front to reflect the laser. It also is used for the toll road billing. They take a picture of your plate, and send you the bill.
I run a front plate because I don't want the hassle of dealing with the cops. But there are lots of people out there that don't install them, so I don't know how much enforcement is done on it.
Several years ago during Boxtoberfest in the TX Hill Country, the sheriffs were out in force knocking off Porsches for not having a front plate displayed. I've avoided the temptation to get rid of the front plate on my Boxster since then.
Posted by: Jim C Mar 27 2023, 08:16 AM
One of the reasons for it is so they can use the front plate for a lidar target. Lots of new cars don't have a flat place on the front to reflect the laser. It also is used for the toll road billing. They take a picture of your plate, and send you the bill.
I run a front plate because I don't want the hassle of dealing with the cops. But there are lots of people out there that don't install them, so I don't know how much enforcement is done on it.
1. I've never been to Texas.
2. My 1960s era black retro plates with yellow numbers are still in my safe - never been installed on my car, which has been in a restoration shop since 2019.
After receiving the 1st bill, I spoke with a TxTag employee on the phone. When I asked what the plates looked like on the offending vehicle, they told me they were white with dark numbers. Well, therein lies the error, those are not my plates
Also, the offending vehicle's plates are '64911' ... mine are '64 _ _ 911' (note 2 empty spaces between the 64 & the 911. Unfortunately, the CA DMV omitted the 2 empty spaces my title and registration documents, so TxTag keeps coming after me
I've also responded twice via mail, including pictures of my plates. I told them that I'm going to invoice them for my time if they don't stop sending me bills
I run year of manufacture plates on my 1972 MG Midget and received a bill for a toll in Dallas (I'm near San Antonio). The photo showed my 1972 TX plates on the front of a 1990 Japanese POS. I called the toll folks and the DPS and discovered that TX in those years issued multiple plates with the same number. Unbelievable! They were familiar with this scofflaw and relieved me of the charge. This was probably 6 or 7 years ago and nothing since. Perhaps they confiscated the plates.
Posted by: flat4guy Apr 14 2023, 09:30 PM
I mentioned this is Post 6, but here is a picture of the actual "plate" I received. It is made of a heavy vinyl and should last. I prefer not to install a front plate, but in the event I should get stubbed, I have a Plan B. I know nothing abut the company other than I found them on another car-site. I think I paid less than $100 delivered; hard to recall.
Looking at it, really for the first time, the CALIFORNIA looks a bit wonky. I might email them and send them the picture and see what they have to say.
Is this removable or a one time application? I'm thinking like a vinyl wrap type of install.
Posted by: Cairo94507 Apr 15 2023, 07:29 AM
I don't know. I certainly appears to be made of a heavy vinyl, so maybe.
Posted by: Osnabruck914 Apr 15 2023, 11:09 AM
Can anyone analyze the significance of my letter/number choice on my custom German plate?
Osnabruck914
Posted by: FlacaProductions Apr 15 2023, 11:54 AM
https://www.germanplates.com/pages/german-license-plates-codes
OVP: Ostvorpommern
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostvorpommern
Posted by: 914sgofast2 Apr 15 2023, 03:49 PM
Here's the front view of our 1970 Porsche 914. We plan on taking this car with us to Peru after my wife retires. Hence the personalized license plate.
Posted by: Osnabruck914 Apr 15 2023, 03:54 PM
https://www.germanplates.com/pages/german-license-plates-codes
OVP: Ostvorpommern
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostvorpommern
Yep, that's half of it. The rest?
Osnabruck914
Posted by: FlacaProductions Apr 15 2023, 04:09 PM
i'm all out of Google
Posted by: 914sgofast2 Apr 15 2023, 05:11 PM
Can anyone analyze the significance of my letter/number choice on my custom German plate?
Osnabruck914
The A-4 and V-2 were the same names for the wonder weapon rockets developed by Von Braun. Germans called them the V-2 rockets while the Nazis were making them in the Mittelbrau Dora concentration camp, while I believe the US Army called the rockets the A-4 when the US began building the rockets with captured German engineers and NOS German parts after WW2.
Posted by: 914sgofast2 Apr 15 2023, 05:18 PM
Peenemunde, where the V-2 rockets were developed and originally built by the Nazis under the direction of Werner Von Braun, is located in the German state/province of OVP!
Posted by: Osnabruck914 Apr 15 2023, 05:42 PM
You guys nailed it!
Posted by: Osnabruck914 Apr 15 2023, 05:46 PM
BTW, no one on the road has ever made the connection. Glad to know there are still some intact brain cells out there.
Osnabruck914
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