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Posted by: Beach914 Mar 10 2023, 07:33 PM

Creamsicle at BHMC $67,500. Obtained from original owner with 55k miles. Looks like a nice example. Havent checked to see if its in the registry.

https://www.beverlyhillscarclub.com/1974-porsche-914-2.0-le-can-am-c-15154.htm

Posted by: 914werke Mar 10 2023, 08:19 PM

1 owner....!

Posted by: wonkipop Mar 10 2023, 08:24 PM

sure looks nice.
i'd say original, paint and all.
off photos anyway.

@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=104 - there are those alum rivets again on the rocker panels.
another 74 with them.

Posted by: JeffBowlsby Mar 10 2023, 09:03 PM

I know that CS. Saw it in Amarillo TX a few years ago. Wondered when it would pop up. 1 owner car owned by a nice couple.

Posted by: davep Mar 10 2023, 10:52 PM

Most of the documents (bills and window sticker) show VIN 4742915046, but the CoA is for 4742915048; OOPS

Posted by: altitude411 Mar 10 2023, 10:54 PM

Posted by: krazykonrad Mar 11 2023, 09:12 AM

Beautiful 914. Too bad the AC installation looks like such a hack job.

Posted by: TROJANMAN Mar 11 2023, 09:30 AM

I am not sure how you get that corrected, but I have to guess it was just a typo when they submitted the paperwork for COA.

Posted by: JeffBowlsby Mar 11 2023, 10:50 AM

The 50/50 bottom cleaning seems odd. Surprised they did not finish the job.




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Posted by: windforfun Mar 11 2023, 05:23 PM

Definitely not stock. Not listed on window sales sticker.

Posted by: JeffBowlsby Mar 11 2023, 05:52 PM

I’ve seen this CS in person and spent time with it. I won’t be commenting further but will only encourage an interested buyer to look it over very carefully or have someone who knows these cars do that for you which is best practice for any 914.

Posted by: KSCarrera Mar 12 2023, 11:38 AM

But would the AC appear on the window sticker? After all it was only ever a dealer installation at the request of the buyer.

Posted by: davep Mar 12 2023, 11:58 AM

You are correct, there was no AC listed on the 914 window stickers that I know of. That was, as you say, only a dealer installed item or some aftermarket item. These non-factory installed items do not appear on a windows sticker.

Posted by: zoomCat Mar 12 2023, 04:11 PM

If you can’t say anything nice…

Posted by: rhodyguy Mar 12 2023, 04:43 PM

What is going on with the rockers? Perhaps it’s tablet, but I can’t see any fasteners. Tack welds?

Posted by: Type 47 Mar 12 2023, 08:50 PM

I hope i'm not hijacking here but I notice the VIN...a 291 had a mfg date of 7/74
I have an early 75' with a mfg date of 8/74, and of course is a 290 for 75.

Did MY 74 not have a 3rd (292) mfg sequence? Typically, 290, 291, 292.

Posted by: JeffBowlsby Mar 12 2023, 09:01 PM

47429xxxxx. Is the same for all 74s. The 5 numbers that follow are the # of cars built. In 74 there were a few in the 21000 range, so yes to your question but it’s not looked at in the way you describe.

Posted by: Type 47 Mar 12 2023, 09:15 PM

there is an active thread on a 74' VIN on the front page now, so we may get some overlap...

I'm a dope and don't know shit but I've had 7 914's since 77' so I have some tribal knowledge.

I've always thought the VIN was 47 for the type and then the sequence/batch that divided the production run into three sections; 290,291,292 and then the number of the car.

Posted by: davep Mar 12 2023, 09:33 PM

4= type 4 engine
7= body type 7 = 914
x= year digit
29 constant and I forget the meaning right now
abcde is the last 5 digits that starts at 00001 and goes to the highest serial that year

there is no 290, 291, 292 series; the sequence # of the car has 5 digits

Posted by: Type 47 Mar 12 2023, 09:39 PM

OK, that makes sense as the #'s of cars are produced 2900001, then 2910001, then when that rolled over 2920001.

Posted by: Dave_Darling Mar 13 2023, 04:54 AM

I think it means "Karmann factory".




..... Oh, and this car is at BHCC? Yeah, I'd tread very carefully around it, and check extra-extra thoroughly. We've seen what kind of cars they describe as "solid" and as "buildable" before....

--DD

Posted by: wonkipop Mar 13 2023, 05:56 AM

don't think 29 means karmann factory.

ghias were made at the karmann factory.
use the same systemic VW vin number system as 914s.
they often have either 20, 21 or 22 in that location in the Vin number sequence.
i've seen some other numbers like 27 on some ghias in the same spot.
the beetle cabrios at karmann also got a 2* number in the same spot that could vary.
it means something else. but i don't know what.


there is something about the 9 on the karmann plate or VW production number.
have to look that up again.
EDIT. ah yes - 9 means karmann factory on the production plate number and then there is the weird thing of the first number of the last three being assigned to the different models to begin the sequence count of daily production.

loony VW number accounting.


EDIT [b]@http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showuser=121

ok i found it again, i stumbled on it a few years ago going over VW part number codes.

the Vin number system is designed around accounting for beetle production.
which routinely exceeded 100,000 cars per model year easily.
and also to take into account when a million cars came up. which was a reality with beetles.

so the 2 of the 4th and 5th numbers in the 914 VIN is there on all VWs.
it is used from 1970 on. when the system was introduced in the 60s they always used a 1 first up.
if in any model year production exceeded 999,999 then the 2 clicked over to a 3 and the rest of the numbers zeroed again. basically when it came to beetles it was a linear count. but it started at 2,000,000 from 1970 on. because they had starting using the system in the 60s. so you could have ended up with a 78 beetle theoretically having the same vin number as a 68 beetle. this possibility was cancelled out by starting with 2,000,000 as the beginning count in 1970.

i don't think any other models VW made ever clicked the 2 over to a 3 except maybe buses? not sure. but the beetle did i believe.

when it came to the karmann products i don't think any of them ever exceeded 99,999.
maybe the beetle cabrios. but i don't think even they did.
so it just stayed as a 2.

i 'm not sure about the 9, but i think because it was not on the cards these cars would get to 100,000 they were assigned a number in order to take up the required number positions in the standardized Vin number.
its the same with ghias and cabrios. they seemed to be using an assigned number there before the last 5 numbers. the number is different than the 914s and may not be a linear count on production like the beetle.