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914World.com _ 914World Garage _ Another EFI contender enters the ring

Posted by: nditiz1 Apr 25 2023, 08:21 AM

UPDATE - said engine is for sale!!!!! 7k easy buy with all that's there.


Recently PMB's newly created T4 monsters have been rolling out. Out in WA, another 911 EFI master has been working to bring RHD ITBs to the T4. His latest YouTube post.

1911 Type 4 engine with EFI
96 P&C AA
Gasket kit AA
bearings AA
Exhaust Kelly Hunter
cam Skat
Heads AMC 1.8
EFI t,bodies RHD
Fuel rails CB
Trumpets RHD
linkage RHD
Manifolds AA

Crank trigger/sensor Dub Shop
Microsquirt
VW coil/Wasted Spark

https://youtu.be/XIpYXzTxszs

Posted by: rhodyguy Apr 25 2023, 08:29 AM

Nice! No back snapping or stumbles at throttle tip in. Sounds like the linkage is perfect. Looking forward to the drive video. What flavor of case is this build based on? Headers or HE’s?

Posted by: JmuRiz Apr 25 2023, 08:52 AM

I wish I'd have gotten one of his /6 EFI setups 5 years ago....was so much cheaper back then. Silly my thinking tech gets less expensive over the years tongue.gif

Posted by: nditiz1 Apr 25 2023, 08:58 AM

QUOTE(JmuRiz @ Apr 25 2023, 07:52 AM) *

I wish I'd have gotten one of his /6 EFI setups 5 years ago....was so much cheaper back then. Silly my thinking tech gets less expensive over the years tongue.gif


They are not as expensive as the current PMO's. Holy $hit EMPI is marking them at $7k a kit. Its a 3k markup from Rich's. A used EFI by RHD/Al is $3100 on Pelican right now. I think even his new kits are only around $4k (no electronics), maybe $5k for the complete.

Posted by: Steve Apr 25 2023, 09:05 AM

Wow!! Sounds great! Normally they sound like a can of ball bearings. Some worse than others. Always thought it was the valve train or loose valve adjustment.

Posted by: Cairo94507 Apr 25 2023, 09:17 AM

That T4 sounds terrific; makes me wish I had another 914 chassis. beerchug.gif

Posted by: JmuRiz Apr 25 2023, 09:22 AM

QUOTE(nditiz1 @ Apr 25 2023, 06:58 AM) *

QUOTE(JmuRiz @ Apr 25 2023, 07:52 AM) *

I wish I'd have gotten one of his /6 EFI setups 5 years ago....was so much cheaper back then. Silly my thinking tech gets less expensive over the years tongue.gif


They are not as expensive as the current PMO's. Holy $hit EMPI is marking them at $7k a kit. Its a 3k markup from Rich's. A used EFI by RHD/Al is $3100 on Pelican right now. I think even his new kits are only around $4k (no electronics), maybe $5k for the complete.

2 years ago his setups were 5-9k..depending on how many bells-whistles you wanted.

That price for the Empi PMOs is totally nuts.

Posted by: BillJ Apr 25 2023, 09:36 AM

Wonder if i shouldn't sell my pmos and get EFI. I know my builder would prefer it but i think the hsr rules may forbid it

Posted by: emerygt350 Apr 25 2023, 03:11 PM

Mine sounds like that when it is all nice and warm. Wonder if this was a cold start or after there is good heat in it?

Posted by: nditiz1 May 1 2023, 06:45 PM

Engine is for sale!!!!! 7k

https://www.facebook.com/groups/219458605157328/permalink/1715749045528269/?sale_post_id=1715749045528269&mibextid=Nif5oz


Posted by: JmuRiz May 1 2023, 07:21 PM

Screenshot for those not on Facebook? Just curious

Posted by: r_towle May 1 2023, 07:55 PM

QUOTE(nditiz1 @ May 1 2023, 08:45 PM) *

Engine is for sale!!!!! 7k

https://www.facebook.com/groups/219458605157328/permalink/1715749045528269/?sale_post_id=1715749045528269&mibextid=Nif5oz

That engine and EFI is being sold for 7k?
What are the specs of the engine?

I’m not going to join a Facebook group, I don’t do Facebook.

Posted by: BillJ May 1 2023, 07:56 PM

A fresh build with those efis is a steal. Almost makes me want a car to put it in.

Posted by: 913B May 1 2023, 09:02 PM

Is the MS dialed in or does it need dyno time to finalize the tune?

Those ITB looks tall, will it in the 914 engine bay with the air cleaners?

Plug and play, does it need anything else?

Posted by: nditiz1 May 1 2023, 09:33 PM

Specs are posted at the top of the thread.

I assume it needs tuning. Can't really tune EV tables on a stand only the idle ones. Al is pretty good at helping you do that. He will probably help you once you get it installed. He did for me when I bought one of his kits.

Plug and play as far as install it in a car and turn the key. Note sure if a FPR is included, but he has microsquirt listed, probably MS3. ITBs can't be that much taller than carbs or even stock Djet for that matter.

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Posted by: JmuRiz May 1 2023, 10:12 PM

Nice, probably selling at a discount while he used it to test /4 systems.
Al seems like a good guy from what I’ve corresponded with him on the bird board and emails.

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