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Posted by: r_towle May 29 2023, 01:59 PM
I need to replace the tires on a car I will be selling.
Stock Mahles on a 75/76
What are the 2023 choices people like for a street car?
Rich
Posted by: shag May 29 2023, 05:04 PM
Hey Rich, I installed Michelin Defender 195/60 R15 88H on my 914 last year before going down to Octeenerfest in Sept. When we went to drive the Tail Of The Dragon a gentleman said if we wanted to go a little faster to follow him, my wife and I did. I thought I had driven my little 914 pretty darn aggressively at times around Pennsylvania and that I would enjoy a little trip. When we finally stopped to take a brake my wife got out off the 914, after her tears stopped, and said that she would never ever ride in my little 914 again if I insisted on driving like I just had. I am still amazed that not one of us had an accident by sliding off the road on one of those corners. It was the drive of a lifetime that I will never forget and am not sure I have the guts to try again this year. So if you like a great tire that definitely holds the road you may want to try these. Thanks again for helping me out with the steering wheel having pressure my key switch recently.
John
Posted by: r_towle May 29 2023, 06:18 PM
Hey Rich, I installed Michelin Defender 195/60 R15 88H on my 914 last year before going down to Octeenerfest in Sept. When we went to drive the Tail Of The Dragon a gentleman said if we wanted to go a little faster to follow him, my wife and I did. I thought I had driven my little 914 pretty darn aggressively at times around Pennsylvania and that I would enjoy a little trip. When we finally stopped to take a brake my wife got out off the 914, after her tears stopped, and said that she would never ever ride in my little 914 again if I insisted on driving like I just had. I am still amazed that not one of us had an accident by sliding off the road on one of those corners. It was the drive of a lifetime that I will never forget and am not sure I have the guts to try again this year. So if you like a great tire that definitely holds the road you may want to try these. Thanks again for helping me out with the steering wheel having pressure my key switch recently.
John
A great and hilarious story.
Keep driving like you stole it, YOLO
Posted by: rick 918-S May 29 2023, 06:57 PM
Sandy and just had a serious laugh fest over that one! 
great set of tires.
Posted by: Dave_Darling May 29 2023, 11:27 PM
For a nice original look, check the Vredestein Sprint Classics in 165R15. For an even more period-correct look, Coker makes Michelin XZX reproductions.
--DD
Posted by: bkrantz May 30 2023, 07:36 PM
For a nice original look, check the Vredestein Sprint Classics in 165R15. For an even more period-correct look, Coker makes Michelin XZX reproductions.
--DD
Yes, very original--and very skinny. They make a 914 feel very light-footed, but also have original lateral grip.
Just for fun I ran the tire diameter calculations:
165R15 = 25.4"
and
185/70-15 = 25.2"
195/60-15 = 24.2"
195/65-15 = 25.0"
205/60-15 = 24.7"
205/65-15 = 25.5"
How low do you want to go?
Posted by: r_towle May 30 2023, 07:55 PM
For a nice original look, check the Vredestein Sprint Classics in 165R15. For an even more period-correct look, Coker makes Michelin XZX reproductions.
--DD
Those xzx tire look to have about a 3 inch wide contact patch.
Wow
Posted by: Literati914 May 31 2023, 10:30 AM
I’ve been considering trying to source the Avon CR6ZZ in 185/70 for the 1.7/1.9 car :
https://www.vintagetyres.com/avon-cr6zz-a30-sport-185-70r15-89v
(Just expensive tho)
.
Posted by: flipb May 31 2023, 12:10 PM
For a nice original look, check the Vredestein Sprint Classics in 165R15. For an even more period-correct look, Coker makes Michelin XZX reproductions.
--DD
Vredestein also makes modern tread designs in the classic car sizes. I put T-Tracs in 165/80 R15 on my '74 and I've been happy with them. Speedo is pretty accurate, too.
Posted by: Root_Werks May 31 2023, 02:22 PM
I need to replace the tires on a car I will be selling.
Stock Mahles on a 75/76
What are the 2023 choices people like for a street car?
Rich
Rich,
Unless your tires won't hold air, why replace them? Chances are most buyers would want a different tire anyway. Let them decide. Just speaking from experience.
-Dan
Posted by: scallyk9 May 31 2023, 03:20 PM
I need to replace the tires on a car I will be selling.
Stock Mahles on a 75/76
What are the 2023 choices people like for a street car?
Rich
Rich,
Unless your tires won't hold air, why replace them? Chances are most buyers would want a different tire anyway. Let them decide. Just speaking from experience.
-Dan
I agree. I'd offer an allowance for new tires. This is exactly how Nathan Merz (Columbia Valley Luxury Cars) and PCA's evaluation advisor handled the still useable but aged-out tires on the 914 he recently sold on bringatrailer.com
Posted by: r_towle May 31 2023, 03:23 PM
I need to replace the tires on a car I will be selling.
Stock Mahles on a 75/76
What are the 2023 choices people like for a street car?
Rich
Rich,
Unless your tires won't hold air, why replace them? Chances are most buyers would want a different tire anyway. Let them decide. Just speaking from experience.
-Dan
I agree. I'd offer an allowance for new tires. This is exactly how Nathan Merz (Columbia Valley Luxury Cars) and PCA's evaluation advisor handled the still useable but aged-out tires on the 914 he recently sold on bringatrailer.com
Good point, and all 5 hold air from the 90s
Posted by: Root_Werks May 31 2023, 03:56 PM
Helped sell a 911 years back, was super proud to source a nice new set of RE71's only because the tires on the 911 were browning and very old. Buyer said it was a waste, tossed them for his preference of some Yokahama something.
Tires are expensive
Mounting and balancing is expensive
People have more opinions about tires then they do engine oil
Did get me thinking though, my spare tire in my Bug is 20 years old. Should probably swap that out.
Posted by: r_towle May 31 2023, 04:47 PM
So I just need to finish 5 rubber lines, start it and sell it.
No more procrastinating.
Posted by: Racer Jun 2 2023, 09:00 AM
fwiw, it might depend on where you sell the car.. ie, a nice car on BAT, an classic OEM size tire wont hurt. But, as others have said, most savy buyers will look at the car, the tires and decide.. I dont like those.. I want x.. so the appeal of not changing does have a certain allure to keep your selling costs low.
Posted by: Root_Werks Jun 2 2023, 09:51 AM
So I just need to finish 5 rubber lines, start it and sell it.
No more procrastinating.
You hit the nail on the head Rich. Rubber brake lines, pads, bleeding etc. Anything a potential buyer wouldn't want to potentially do, do it. Anything else like tires, wheels, even carpet = don't do unless you have to. 90% of the time, you've wasted your own money.
Posted by: r_towle Jun 2 2023, 06:42 PM
But procrastinating is what I do
Posted by: BENBRO02 Jun 3 2023, 07:28 AM
Hey Rich, I installed Michelin Defender 195/60 R15 88H on my 914 last year before going down to Octeenerfest in Sept. When we went to drive the Tail Of The Dragon a gentleman said if we wanted to go a little faster to follow him, my wife and I did. I thought I had driven my little 914 pretty darn aggressively at times around Pennsylvania and that I would enjoy a little trip. When we finally stopped to take a brake my wife got out off the 914, after her tears stopped, and said that she would never ever ride in my little 914 again if I insisted on driving like I just had. I am still amazed that not one of us had an accident by sliding off the road on one of those corners. It was the drive of a lifetime that I will never forget and am not sure I have the guts to try again this year. So if you like a great tire that definitely holds the road you may want to try these. Thanks again for helping me out with the steering wheel having pressure my key switch recently.
John
That was a fun day. Fay was an excellent passenger and didn’t distract me by screaming while we were on The Tail of the Dragon.
Posted by: sithot Jun 18 2023, 07:00 AM
Roger Kraus is the Avon supplier for left coast. Avon's are NOT an inexpensive option.
https://rogerkrausracing.com/avon-tires/
I've used SascoSports at VIR-Virginia International Raceway. ("Nurburgring" USA 
)
https://sascosports.com/tires.asp
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