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Posted by: oakdalecurtis Jun 20 2023, 12:31 PM

One final question on this hard starting issue. As I mentioned, I completely cleaned the ground strap connections, which were dirty, and suspect that will clear up the issue. My question is, the original strap is in one piece, not frayed, but does look old. Can age alone increase the resistance on an intact braided wire? If so, anyone know where I can get a new one?

Posted by: Shivers Jun 20 2023, 12:39 PM

You could check it with a multimeter.

Posted by: 930cabman Jun 20 2023, 12:41 PM

I look a little old, but can totally rock it out.

No, do not replace if it's sound

Posted by: SirAndy Jun 20 2023, 02:00 PM

As long as the contact points are clean, outside patina will not affect function unless you have some severe corrosion or physical damage.
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Posted by: Spoke Jun 20 2023, 02:05 PM

QUOTE(oakdalecurtis @ Jun 20 2023, 02:31 PM) *

One final question on this hard starting issue. As I mentioned, I completely cleaned the ground strap connections, which were dirty, and suspect that will clear up the issue. My question is, the original strap is in one piece, not frayed, but does look old. Can age alone increase the resistance on an intact braided wire? If so, anyone know where I can get a new one?



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You can test the ground strap in action to determine if you're losing voltage. Disable the ignition (pull power wire to the coil) so the engine just cranks and cranks w/o starting. Have someone crank the engine while you measure voltage from the engine case to a chassis grounding point. If you get appreciable voltage like over 0.5V, then change the strap.

I replaced mine with a 4-gauge strap from my flaps. They have many lengths available.

Posted by: GregAmy Jun 20 2023, 02:11 PM

QUOTE(Spoke @ Jun 20 2023, 03:05 PM) *
I replaced mine with a 4-gauge strap from my flaps. They have many lengths available.

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And NAPA offers various lengths of braided strap with lug holes.

I mean, if there's any question about it, for $15 why not just do it?

Posted by: porschetub Jun 20 2023, 03:39 PM

QUOTE(GregAmy @ Jun 21 2023, 09:11 AM) *

QUOTE(Spoke @ Jun 20 2023, 03:05 PM) *
I replaced mine with a 4-gauge strap from my flaps. They have many lengths available.

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And NAPA offers various lengths of braided strap with lug holes.

I mean, if there's any question about it, for $15 why not just do it?

agree.gif My car never had one as the trans was out and the car a roller.
Made one from a piece of new small diameter welder cable and got a local shop to crimp the eyelets on and all sealed with heat shrink.
Have a second one made up but yet to fit .

Posted by: r_towle Jun 20 2023, 06:16 PM

I bought a new one, then two.
Fixed it.

I do think that over time they become less effective.
Mine did.

I’m not a pro, but I suspect the large current draw via 50 year old spot welds may no longer meet the original performance.

Posted by: 930cabman Jun 21 2023, 04:59 AM

How much time/money has been spend putzing around with a ground strap? has the starter been checked for proper operation?

Posted by: dr914@autoatlanta.com Jun 21 2023, 08:28 AM

yes and yes

a good trans to body ground is extremely important

QUOTE(oakdalecurtis @ Jun 20 2023, 11:31 AM) *

One final question on this hard starting issue. As I mentioned, I completely cleaned the ground strap connections, which were dirty, and suspect that will clear up the issue. My question is, the original strap is in one piece, not frayed, but does look old. Can age alone increase the resistance on an intact braided wire? If so, anyone know where I can get a new one?


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