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Posted by: Jamie Aug 31 2023, 08:23 AM

...Southern States store offers 0 Ethanol fuel, so yesterday I put a half tank in my 73 teener with the 89 octane I usually use. Was mainly interested in fuel for chainsaws and lawn mower, but winter storage of my teener would be a good application. I'm curious about what other users have found having run this fuel in their teeners, didn't seem to change my 1.7L performance into a 2L, and at least it didn't blow up on the way home!

Posted by: ClayPerrine Aug 31 2023, 08:36 AM

QUOTE(Jamie @ Aug 31 2023, 09:23 AM)

...Southern States store offers 0 Ethanol fuel, so yesterday I put a half tank in my 73 teener with the 89 octane I usually use. Was mainly interested in fuel for chainsaws and lawn mower, but winter storage of my teener would be a good application. I'm curious about what other users have found having run this fuel in their teeners, didn't seem to change my 1.7L performance into a 2L, and at least it didn't blow up on the way home!

Posted by: NARP74 Aug 31 2023, 08:46 AM

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=366263&hl=ethanol&st=0

Posted by: sixnotfour Aug 31 2023, 09:03 AM

lawn mowers, weed eaters , chain saws, tractors....low usage = benefits..

Posted by: vitamin914 Aug 31 2023, 10:43 AM

Ethanol is bad for rubber and plastic that was not designed for it. Can eat it away or make it brittle.

1970s gasoline never had any ethanol, so none of the components were designed for it (fuel lines, injectors gas sender floats etc.).

The other problem is ethanol separates from the gas over time - the don't like to stay mixed - like over the winter storage. The other issue is ethanol absorbs moisture causing corrosion in the fuel tank and fuel system - big problem for marine engines.

There are additives like Stabil 360 marine and other products. Not sure if they really work as advertise or if they are snake oil. I would love to see unbiased test results.

Canada has mandated all fuel here must have ethanol in it. There may be an exemption for marine, there definitely is one for AvGas here.


If the octane is high enough and there is no ethanol, use it, and make me jealous.

Posted by: JamesM Aug 31 2023, 02:00 PM

Non ethanol 88 is pretty widely available around here. One station has 91 ethanol free but I have to drive a bit.

I try to always go ethanol free whenever possible, especially in the 914s. In addition to what everyone says about the terrible corrosive properties of ethanol and slightly reduced power and gas mileage one thing i have found is that if you are still running your fuel pump in the engine bay the ethanol increases your chances of vapor lock.

Around here it gets very hot, and we have some pretty high altitude passes that I like to drive. One of my 4 914s has the fuel pump in the engine bay still. If I take this car over the passes in the summer with ethanol in the tank the combination of heat + altitude boils it in the lines every single time, if im running ethanol free i have no issues. This is not to say that ethanol free gas is the cure for vapor lock, it isnt, but ethanol gas does make the problem worse.

Posted by: barefoot Aug 31 2023, 03:13 PM

Spinx gas stations sell both ethanol free & E85 in the Charleston SC area they must be around other southern locations as well.

Posted by: windforfun Aug 31 2023, 06:44 PM

Nitromethane is the only way to go. I just hate the way it smells.

Posted by: mlindner Aug 31 2023, 07:41 PM

Up here is Wisconsin we have Kwik Trip and Mobil stations with 91 octane with no ethanol. Love it.

Posted by: 73-914 Sep 1 2023, 05:24 AM

We have Stewart's in eastern Upstate NY ,91 no alcohol

Posted by: StratPlayer Sep 1 2023, 10:19 AM

https://www.pure-gas.org/

Posted by: Root_Werks Sep 1 2023, 11:12 AM

Pretty lucky here in WA and more specifically close to the coast (lots of boats). There are a number of stations that offer "E-Free". I can get 89, 87 and sometimes 85 depending on the station. Run that always in my 914, Bug, mower etc.

My 94' Ranger however gets whatever will burn.

Posted by: Jett Sep 1 2023, 05:51 PM

Gas is amazing… and it won’t rust your tank.

Posted by: wonkipop Sep 2 2023, 01:19 AM

run real gazohleene as long as you can and as long as you can find it.
its not going to be here forever.

after that, if you are still alive and driving a 914 (or anything else) its over to the sugar cane sh#t/ cooked corn crap or hooking up your mobile cook top in the garage to a power point and getting down on your knees to pray that your house does not burn down around you while you are asleep.



the 21st century. mad max here it comes?

Posted by: Jett Sep 2 2023, 08:03 AM

QUOTE(wonkipop @ Sep 2 2023, 12:19 AM)

run real gazohleene as long as you can and as long as you can find it.
its not going to be here forever.

after that, if you are still alive and driving a 914 (or anything else) its over to the sugar cane sh#t/ cooked corn crap or hooking up your mobile cook top in the garage to a power point and getting down on your knees to pray that your house does not burn down around you while you are asleep.



the 21st century. mad max here it comes?

Posted by: jfort Sep 2 2023, 09:05 PM

Ironically, it’s the farmers’ coop that has ethanol free, which I run. It is 90 octane. I use an octane enhancer. Seems to run fine.