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Posted by: Geezer914 Nov 9 2023, 01:19 PM

Running a 2056 with 1.8L L-Jet fuel injection. AFR is set at 13.1. MPG is around 20 miles per gallon. Does this look right?
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Posted by: VaccaRabite Nov 9 2023, 01:22 PM

Thats about what I used to see as well.

I'm sure it could be tuned for more economy at the expense of power.

Zach

Posted by: 930cabman Nov 9 2023, 03:07 PM

QUOTE(Geezer914 @ Nov 9 2023, 01:19 PM) *

Running a 2056 with 1.8L L-Jet fuel injection. AFR is set at 13.1. MPG is around 20 miles per gallon. Plugs are a little dark but not fouled. Does this sound right?


Is this in town MPG?

My 2056 with twin 40 IDF's gets a bit over 30MPG at 75MPH highway. No idea what the AFR is, plugs look ok. Funny I have a new LM-2 in the box, can't figure out how to get it going

Posted by: StarBear Nov 9 2023, 03:27 PM

QUOTE(VaccaRabite @ Nov 9 2023, 03:22 PM) *

Thats about what I used to see as well.

I'm sure it could be tuned for more economy at the expense of power.

Zach

agree.gif At idle On standard 1.8 FI. Planning on changing our nearly original injectors and checking/adjusting valves (many years overdue) to lean a bit further (running 10.0-12.0) at rpm. Might tweak the AFM a bit more but pretty near point where it hasn’t helped.

Posted by: emerygt350 Nov 9 2023, 06:22 PM

That plug looks nice to me. Where is your o2 sensor?

I get almost 20 in town and 28ish on the highway but I drive like gas doesn't matter in town. I can't help it ... Maybe 270 miles on 13 gallons (I don't trust my fuel gauge yet so I always fill up as it drops below 1/4 tank).

On my 2056 djet I am at 14.2ish cruising and between 11-12 on WOT. My O2 is right after the 3 and 4 combine in my ansa (before the muffler).

Posted by: Geezer914 Nov 9 2023, 07:47 PM

My 02 sensor is in my Triad muffler.

Posted by: Krieger Nov 9 2023, 11:38 PM

Looks good. I wouldn't go any leaner.

Posted by: 930cabman Nov 10 2023, 06:20 AM

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Looks good. I wouldn't go any leaner.


Exactly, I like to see my plugs darker. Detonation is one of the worst events that can happen in an engine

Posted by: Porschef Nov 10 2023, 03:44 PM

QUOTE(Geezer914 @ Nov 9 2023, 03:19 PM) *

Running a 2056 with 1.8L L-Jet fuel injection. AFR is set at 13.1. MPG is around 20 miles per gallon. Does this look right?
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Interesting, I’m running the same setup. Also right around that AFR# and very similar mileage numbers. I always thought it would be a little better but I’m willing to sacrifice mpg’s for engine longevity.

It’s not a DD so I live with it beerchug.gif

Posted by: Geezer914 Nov 10 2023, 04:17 PM

Sacrificing some mpg for performance. 20mpg and it's a blast to drive, I can't complain.

Posted by: Chris914n6 Nov 10 2023, 06:09 PM

Could be better. A stock 2.0FI is like 25-30. My 3.0FI was 24-29 mpg @ 90 mph.

Posted by: Geezer914 Nov 10 2023, 06:33 PM

I am running Len Hoffman RS heads with larger valves and a 50 mm throttle body, so not as efficient as a stock 2.0.

Posted by: emerygt350 Nov 10 2023, 07:34 PM

I mean, theoretically... You are moving the same weight so it shouldn't take more fuel unless you are driving it inefficiently. I know I am. Just try and miser your 2056 around. I just can't do it. I am always reaching into the throttle....

Posted by: Geezer914 Nov 10 2023, 08:04 PM

I try to keep the RPMs above 3K as much as possible.

Posted by: emerygt350 Nov 10 2023, 08:07 PM

Exactly

Posted by: Chris914n6 Nov 10 2023, 09:43 PM

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I am running Len Hoffman RS heads with larger valves and a 50 mm throttle body, so not as efficient as a stock 2.0.

Air + gas = HP. I've got 190 hp & 205 tq and get 24 mpg around town. Granted I don't have to push as hard to be fast, but it's still a formula that is consistent. A non-track car doesn't need the cooling effect of running that rich.

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