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Posted by: ltex Aug 21 2005, 03:19 PM

Okay, who thought this was a good idea?

I went to replace my starter. Done it lots of times with Fords and Chevs, now on my 72 914.

Bottom nut is not a problem. 17mm socket .. ya-hoo ..

Top bolt .. what the heck??

What's with the two burms on the starter to prevent getting a socket on the bolt???

And I can't get a spanner on it far enough to turn it. Just far enough to flex the span and risk stripping the bolt head.

So how much of the car do I have to disassemble to replace the starter?

This car IS fun to drive, but with the frustration it has generated .. it's just not THAT fun ..

Lonny

Posted by: mihai914 Aug 21 2005, 03:22 PM

Try the nut in the engine compartment by the rear firewall instead.

It's times like these you wish you had a Haynes manual or at least read it before

Posted by: McMark Aug 21 2005, 03:22 PM

The two protrusions are to keep the bolt from spinning.

Go into the engine bay and you'll find the other end of the bolt and a nut.

If it's a 1.7 it'll be trying to hid behind the throttle body. If it's a 2.0 it'll be right behind the cold start injector. Same place on both engines, but the FI changed, so it looks different. I'll go take a picture if I can.

Posted by: bd1308 Aug 21 2005, 03:22 PM

i had this one....

Posted by: McMark Aug 21 2005, 03:23 PM

Can't get my camera in there. Sorry.

Posted by: rhodyguy Aug 21 2005, 03:26 PM

like mark said. the bolt head is "captured".

k

Posted by: black73 Aug 21 2005, 03:37 PM

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Just about had it with this car...

Congratulations! You are now an official 914 owner. I say that every time I work on mine.

Posted by: bd1308 Aug 21 2005, 03:42 PM

Posted by: markb Aug 21 2005, 05:18 PM

QUOTE (mihai914 @ Aug 21 2005, 02:22 PM)

It's times like these you wish you had a Haynes manual or at least read it before

It's one of those "must have" items. Like AAA.

Posted by: wilchek Aug 21 2005, 07:18 PM

maybe this will help, this is with the engine out of the car. If you can't get to the bolt take off the engine lid which is very easy to do. Remove aircleaner noteing where the hoses go and the bolt should be obvious on the firwall/enginetin on the transmission side.


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Posted by: wilchek Aug 21 2005, 07:24 PM

pic of the bolt on the starter that will not spin and a pic of the wiring to the starter. Remember that the right main wiring nut (on back of solinoide) does not have a connection to it. Two main wires to left nut and one yellow to top spade connection.


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Posted by: SirAndy Aug 21 2005, 10:38 PM

QUOTE (mihai914 @ Aug 21 2005, 02:22 PM)

It's times like these you wish you had a Haynes manual or at least read it before

we need a RTFM smily ...

Andy

Posted by: ltex Aug 22 2005, 02:06 PM

Thanks ..

Dang this car is aggrevating ..

Posted by: jonwatts Aug 22 2005, 02:35 PM

This is part of what defines what type of car guy you are. If you're a Ford guy then the way Chevys are put together doesn't make sense. If you were raised on VW's then Porsche's make sense.

Posted by: Joe Ricard Aug 22 2005, 02:44 PM

Righty tighty Lefty Loosey From the engine compartment side whilst holding the 17mm wrench with finger tips blind cause you probably can't get both your arm and head in there at the same time. Standing on your left foot only holding the engine lid up with your shoulder.

Posted by: Cap'n Krusty Aug 22 2005, 03:46 PM

That above mentioned 17mm nut might just be a 15mm nut, because that's how it came from the factory. The Cap'n

Posted by: Mueller Aug 22 2005, 03:54 PM

QUOTE (bd1308 @ Aug 21 2005, 02:22 PM)

i had this one....

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You only have to be 5 percent smarter than the problem to solve it ...

that is one smart bolt, hahahaha

Posted by: McMark Aug 22 2005, 04:36 PM

QUOTE (Cap'n Krusty @ Aug 22 2005, 01:46 PM)

That above mentioned 17mm nut might just be a 15mm nut, because that's how it came from the factory. The Cap'n

I didn't want to confuse him. Are both the nuts in the engine bay supposed to be 15 mm wrench?

Posted by: SLITS Aug 22 2005, 04:45 PM

QUOTE (McMark @ Aug 22 2005, 03:36 PM)

QUOTE (Cap'n Krusty @ Aug 22 2005, 01:46 PM) That above mentioned 17mm nut might just be a 15mm nut, because that's how it came from the factory.  The Cap'n I didn't want to confuse him. Are both the nuts in the engine bay supposed to be 15 mm wrench?

The size of the nut was determined by the last nut that threaded the nut on that he found on the floor or in the nut can.

Oh, I forgot



Read the book

Posted by: Cap'n Krusty Aug 22 2005, 07:05 PM

QUOTE (McMark @ Aug 22 2005, 02:36 PM)

QUOTE (Cap'n Krusty @ Aug 22 2005, 01:46 PM) That above mentioned 17mm nut might just be a 15mm nut, because that's how it came from the factory.  The Cap'n I didn't want to confuse him. Are both the nuts in the engine bay supposed to be 15 mm wrench?

Yes, and they're substantially thinner than a cylinder head nut. See the picture from "wilchek", which appears to show a head nut instead of the real thing. The Cap'n

Posted by: Joe Ricard Aug 22 2005, 08:31 PM

Sorry Capt BUT MY NUTS ARE BIGGER THAN YOURS.