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914World.com _ 914World Garage _ Tangerine racings shift linkage and bulkhead bushing SO GOOD!
Posted by: speed metal army Apr 23 2024, 09:56 PM
Title says it all. Thanks to Chris Foley for such good stuff!
My car shifts so well now its nuts! If youve not tried it, do it. The stock setup, no matter how new the bushings are dont even come close. Why the factory only had one pickup point at the console is beyond me. Tangerines system is how it should have been from the factory! I can actually shift with 100% confidence. It was always a thorn in my side the way the car shifted. That is over!!! Click, Click, Click 
Thanks Mr. Foley for all the rad products!!!!
Oh and his shifter adjustment procedure is easy as can be and the most effective ive used. 
SO HAPPY!! 
Posted by: Geezer914 Apr 24 2024, 06:37 AM
I installed his linkage along with a Renn shifter, no more "I hope this is the right gear". Foley makes some great stuff !
Posted by: 914Next Apr 24 2024, 06:50 AM
Sounds wonderful. Can you comment on the extensiveness of the install? Can a handy person...but not a mechanic.....handle it? how much interior disassembly or lift work is required?
thx
Posted by: Shivers Apr 24 2024, 08:01 AM
Sounds wonderful. Can you comment on the extensiveness of the install? Can a handy person...but not a mechanic.....handle it? how much interior disassembly or lift work is required?
thx
I just watched a video where the guy installing the kit did not remove the shifter console from the transmission to do the mods. He cut off the ear , put up the template, marked it and drilled tthe holes. That takes out a lot of work. I'd say if you are handy and take your time you can do it. If you are also doing the firewall bushing you'll need to expose the shifter inside to unbolt the shifter rod that runs through the tunnel. It has to be easier than this.
Posted by: GregAmy Apr 24 2024, 08:34 AM
I did both of mine that way.
Posted by: NARP74 Apr 24 2024, 08:44 AM
Got a link for the video?
Posted by: Shivers Apr 24 2024, 08:45 AM
I did both of mine that way.
Then that makes it easy enough for most to install. If you have an issue ask here for an answer. Don’t forget pictures to explain the question for dense guys like me
Posted by: Shivers Apr 24 2024, 08:48 AM
Got a link for the video?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=umQ7hiVg3Yc
Posted by: speed metal army Apr 24 2024, 09:10 AM
Easy stuff! Took about 2 hours. No need to remove the shifter or splined shift rod in the tunnel to install the bushing.
Posted by: gereed75 Apr 24 2024, 09:38 AM
i have been raving about the shifting improvement ever since i installed mine 3 years ago. really improves the shifting Takes all the wiggle waggle out of the shifter rod back at the console and translates it into the exact fore aft and rotational motion the shift shaft needs to efficiently operate the gear selection lever, Brilliant.
I am using the Weltmiester short shift kit up at the shifter Coming out of the 1 - 2 detent is still notchy but once into the H the shifting is actually precise!
Posted by: Olympic 914 Apr 24 2024, 09:56 AM
i have been raving about the shifting improvement ever since i installed mine 3 years ago. really improves the shifting Takes all the wiggle waggle out of the shifter rod back at the console and translates it into the exact fore aft and rotational motion the shift shaft needs to efficiently operate the gear selection lever, Brilliant.
I am using the Weltmiester short shift kit up at the shifter Coming out of the 1 - 2 detent is still notchy but once into the H the shifting is actually precise!
I have the J West shifter, bronze console bushing and the Tangerine firewall bushing. I thought it shifted as good as it could get.
UNTIL I drove Gereed75 car. His is much smoother shifting, where mine is positive but notchy going into all the gears.
I have been considering the Tangerine console since then.
One of these days.....
Posted by: 914werke Apr 24 2024, 08:46 PM
I still have the original Jwest shifter kit in a box somewhere.
When it came to installing the kit I had a hard time cutting up the stock console, the holes ...no biggie, but there is no going back with this design
Posted by: mepstein Apr 24 2024, 09:12 PM
I still have the original Jwest shifter kit in a box somewhere.
When it came to installing the kit I had a hard time cutting up the stock console, the holes ...no biggie, but there is no going back with this design
I don’t think you’d want to. I have the jwest version.
If you really wanted to go back to stock, just get a console from an old trans.
Posted by: speed metal army Apr 25 2024, 09:03 AM
I still have the original Jwest shifter kit in a box somewhere.
When it came to installing the kit I had a hard time cutting up the stock console, the holes ...no biggie, but there is no going back with this design
No going back!? GOOD RIDDANCE!!!
Im sure if someone actually thought the stock setup was better we could always have their head examined!
Posted by: mm911 Apr 25 2024, 09:35 AM
Title says it all. Thanks to Chris Foley for such good stuff!
My car shifts so well now its nuts! If youve not tried it, do it. The stock setup, no matter how new the bushings are dont even come close. Why the factory only had one pickup point at the console is beyond me. Tangerines system is how it should have been from the factory! I can actually shift with 100% confidence. It was always a thorn in my side the way the car shifted. That is over!!! Click, Click, Click
Thanks Mr. Foley for all the rad products!!!!
Oh and his shifter adjustment procedure is easy as can be and the most effective ive used.
SO HAPPY!!
I agree. Dr. Evil rebuilt my transmission, bought the Tangerine Racing linkage and bearing and the Rennshift. Best shifting 914 I have ever had. Well worth the price.
Posted by: 913B Apr 25 2024, 11:31 AM
if you remove the shifter console from trans I am assuming all the gear oil would dump out ??
Posted by: 914werke Apr 25 2024, 12:30 PM
if you remove the shifter console from trans I am assuming all the gear oil would dump out ??
Unless you drain it first
Posted by: Shivers Apr 25 2024, 12:33 PM
if you remove the shifter console from trans I am assuming all the gear oil would dump out ??
Yes it would. If the gear oil is new just clean your drain pan, drain the oil and reuse it after.
Posted by: 914werke Apr 25 2024, 12:34 PM
When it came to installing the kit I had a hard time cutting up the stock console, the holes ...no biggie, but there is no going back with this design Im sure if someone actually thought the stock setup was better we could always have their head examined! Well nowadays as cars are more & more being "restored" folks want options.
Yes its possible to source a replacement console, but if you dont have to...is betta
Posted by: Shivers Apr 25 2024, 12:44 PM
Easy to go back on mine. Like that is going to happen 
Posted by: 913B Apr 25 2024, 02:11 PM
How much do you hack off the console, is there a pattern/instructions that is provided?
I have a spare that I can cut off to minimize down time and swap it in.
Posted by: Shivers Apr 25 2024, 04:14 PM
How much do you hack off the console, is there a pattern/instructions that is provided?
I have a spare that I can cut off to minimize down time and swap it in.
You’ll see all that in this video
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=umQ7hiVg3Yc
Posted by: jim_hoyland Apr 25 2024, 04:26 PM
Great upgrade. Did mine with help of 914Toy several years ago. Well worth doing !
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Posted by: krazykonrad Apr 25 2024, 04:53 PM
I wish they had one for tail shifters.
Posted by: ClayPerrine Apr 26 2024, 12:05 PM
I wish they had one for tail shifters.
Convert it to a side shifter.....
Posted by: 914werke Apr 26 2024, 01:19 PM
Why do you think that is? the Trans condition, the Welt SS, the kit or the combo?
Posted by: Shivers Apr 26 2024, 02:58 PM
I'm glad I did the home brew version. It was fun. But I spent 300.00 to do it myself, and countless hours making parts and making sure everything lined up right. The Tangerine kit comes with everything, ready to go, and everything will line up for a few hundred more. 
But if you find stuff like this fun, you'll love the challenge. 
Posted by: gereed75 Apr 26 2024, 04:30 PM
Rich Do you mean the "notchy" thing?? Maybe a better word is "tricky" or "finicky" Just inherent I think of getting out of the dogleg spring detent 1st/reverse plane. Nothing really to do with the setup or condition. I just take it slow and a bit careful.
Once in the H it is smooth and precise.
Posted by: PanelBilly Apr 26 2024, 05:52 PM
Hey, that's my video! I'm a movie star. Wish I had done a nicer job. One of these day....
Posted by: speed metal army Apr 26 2024, 06:30 PM
More drives, so happy!!! Its never been so good. The linkage adjustment procedure that Foley uses is fantastic and crazy easy, its never been so dialed!
Posted by: NARP74 Apr 29 2024, 08:46 AM
More drives, so happy!!! Its never been so good. The linkage adjustment procedure that Foley uses is fantastic and crazy easy, its never been so dialed!
What is that procedure?
And do you have to drain the trans fluid to install this part?
Posted by: VaccaRabite Apr 29 2024, 09:09 AM
What is that procedure?
And do you have to drain the trans fluid to install this part?
You do not.
There is no need to remove the console from the transmission. The modifications are very simple, and there is a to-scale template included where you need to cut and drill.
Zach
Posted by: NARP74 Apr 29 2024, 09:13 AM
What if you want to remove it to take to to a lathe? Will the fluid leak or is the console high enough in the trans?
Posted by: 913B Apr 29 2024, 09:36 AM
I am not ready yet to swap the shift console.
But is there a position/gear to place the trans in, I assume shift to neutral before pulling the console out?
Posted by: VaccaRabite Apr 29 2024, 09:48 AM
What if you want to remove it to take to to a lathe? Will the fluid leak or is the console high enough in the trans?
1) Yes, pull it out and you are going to have a stinky puddle.
2) A lathe? That is complete overkill for this application. A small amount of care with a hacksaw is all that needed, and dress it with a file.
All you are doing is clearanceing. Chris has done the precision part for you, which you bolt on to the console using the included template.
Really, its challenging to mess this up.
Zach
Posted by: StratPlayer Apr 29 2024, 09:56 AM
Have that setup installed on my car, love it.
Posted by: 914werke Apr 29 2024, 10:31 AM
Even though there seems to be a bit of chatter whether or not to remove the console, I would recommend it.
If for no other reason than to provide an excuse to CHANGE YOUR OIL.
It seems too many owners ignore their trans until they have noise or problems.
I dont know how many gear boxes Ive serviced that may have NEVER had their oil changed or were running very low levels for a long time.
Posted by: Geezer914 Apr 29 2024, 12:56 PM
Remove the console so you don't end up with a butcher job like in the video!
Posted by: NARP74 Apr 29 2024, 01:05 PM
I have never been fond of working upside down in tight quarters...
Posted by: ChrisFoley Apr 30 2024, 06:09 AM
I have never been fond or working upside down in tight quarters...
the required work takes about the same amount of time as it does to remove and re-install the console.
Posted by: ChrisFoley Apr 30 2024, 06:11 AM
What if you want to remove it to take to to a lathe? Will the fluid leak or is the console high enough in the trans?
There is no lathe work possible on the console.
Posted by: ChrisFoley Apr 30 2024, 06:13 AM
More drives, so happy!!! Its never been so good. The linkage adjustment procedure that Foley uses is fantastic and crazy easy, its never been so dialed!
What is that procedure?
The procedure I recommend is to use my Shift Linkage Adjustment Tool.
Posted by: Shivers Apr 30 2024, 07:45 AM
What if you want to remove it to take to to a lathe? Will the fluid leak or is the console high enough in the trans?
I think what you mean is a Mill, and you could. But if you cut it shy of the line you can make it look as nice with a small fine file and a little time. I find it peaceful
Posted by: Montreal914 Apr 30 2024, 08:41 AM
This was a very fun project and the reward was extremely satisfying. I made my own based on JWest and Chris' designs.
Had a couple of tabs welded on, then use the file to smooth shape it and give it a factory look. 
Rest of the work is documented here: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=329708&hl= 
Posted by: NARP74 Apr 30 2024, 09:21 AM
What if you want to remove it to take to to a lathe? Will the fluid leak or is the console high enough in the trans?
I think what you mean is a Mill, and you could. But if you cut it shy of the line you can make it look as nice with a small fine file and a little time. I find it peaceful
Yes mill, no spinning the console. Would be tough to manage.
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