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Posted by: Mueller Aug 26 2005, 01:39 PM
CarbonFiber (CF) liteweight engine lid
CF stock replacment targa top
CF headlight covers that intergrate the headlight mounting bracket
above items should have a good cosmetic finish for those that do not want to paint them
Posted by: Jeff Bowlsby Aug 26 2005, 01:46 PM
MPS diaphragms.... 
Posted by: echocanyons Aug 26 2005, 01:50 PM
CF outer rocker panels
DIN radio face plate covered in basketweave
Visor mounts (wasnt someone working on these?)
Plug and play 914/4 to 914/6 engine harness
Posted by: Mueller Aug 26 2005, 01:58 PM
| QUOTE (echocanyons @ Aug 26 2005, 12:50 PM) |
| DIN radio face plate covered in basketweave |
got you covered (so to speak
) should have pricing by next week....McMark and I have been working on this....
Posted by: Aaron Cox Aug 26 2005, 02:00 PM
a pattern for the dash face....so one could make it out of whatever they choose......
Posted by: Headrage Aug 26 2005, 02:02 PM
CF Bumpers
I really like the CF targa top idea...
Posted by: echocanyons Aug 26 2005, 02:04 PM
| QUOTE |
| got you covered |
Are you taking preorders?
Posted by: smrz914 Aug 26 2005, 02:21 PM
Student discounts! not that I could afford any parts, even if there were.
Posted by: lapuwali Aug 26 2005, 02:22 PM
How about CF seat pans identical in every way to the stock ones, except with higher side bolsters. I'd also make them available in FG at a lower price.
Round shift knobs, much like stock, but for a lot less than $150 a throw. Wood or plastic.
A CF airbox for twin Webers much like the /6 metal airbox, but for the /4. Making a much lighter /6 airbox in CF would also probably find a good market, as the /6 metal Weber airbox weighs a ton.
A lightweight tubular side-shift engine mount bar rather like Paul's.
btw, I like the engine cover idea...
Posted by: maf914 Aug 26 2005, 02:24 PM
Affordable rubber weather seals.
Like that's gonna happen! 
Posted by: goose2 Aug 26 2005, 02:24 PM
Nice sunvisors, similar to original. Minimalist, weld on steel flares....about half the width of the GT flares.
Posted by: URY914 Aug 26 2005, 02:24 PM
You guys are lovin' the CF stuff.
Why don't you take a F-glass bumper or targa top and overlay a piece of CF and resin over it and than polish it out to a nice shiny finish. Same look-low price.
Paul
Posted by: bondo Aug 26 2005, 02:27 PM
| QUOTE (URY914 @ Aug 26 2005, 01:24 PM) |
| You guys are lovin' the CF stuff. Why don't you take a F-glass bumper or targa top and overlay a piece of CF and resin over it and than polish it out to a nice shiny finish. Same look-low price. Paul |
I would want a CF targa top for lightness... not just performance wise, but for easy removal and stowing.
How about a CF 914? The whole thing..
Posted by: ArtechnikA Aug 26 2005, 02:28 PM
| QUOTE (lapuwali @ Aug 26 2005, 04:22 PM) |
| ...the /6 metal Weber airbox weighs a ton. |
the /6 Weber airbox is plastic...
911's had metal ones...
Posted by: Engman Aug 26 2005, 02:28 PM
| QUOTE (URY914 @ Aug 26 2005, 04:24 PM) |
| You guys are lovin' the CF stuff. |
Its a CA thing.
AAR and chrome bumpers.
M
Posted by: maf914 Aug 26 2005, 02:29 PM
| QUOTE (lapuwali @ Aug 26 2005, 12:22 PM) |
| A CF airbox for twin Webers much like the /6 metal airbox, but for the /4. Making a much lighter /6 airbox in CF would also probably find a good market, as the /6 metal Weber airbox weighs a ton. |
I like the idea of an enclosed filter air box too. I think there may be a system available from one of the German VW tuner places, maybe Ahnendorp (spelling?). It's been discussed over on the Shop Talk forums.
Didn't Morphenspectra mention that he was considering this?
Posted by: Rough_Rider Aug 26 2005, 02:36 PM
Rear wing in Lexan (cause it clear), similar idea to TVR Sagaris.
CF gas pedal with hinge & custom pieces for heel & toe.
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Posted by: jonwatts Aug 26 2005, 02:37 PM
Carbon Fiber Hydrocarbons
Ok, for reals,
CF or glass sail panel scoops. You know the ones I'm talking about? I'm looking for a picture.
Posted by: redshift Aug 26 2005, 02:42 PM
Free gas. Muffler bearings. Oil filter bypass valves.
M
Posted by: jgara962 Aug 26 2005, 02:46 PM
It would be nice if Porsche North America had a crate motor program similar to what GM & Ford offer now.
Posted by: redshift Aug 26 2005, 02:48 PM
They do, they are just out of stock, for the most part.
There are still available crate motors.
M
Posted by: Engman Aug 26 2005, 02:49 PM
Already have it - except it is called Jake Raby.
M
Posted by: Travis Neff Aug 26 2005, 02:51 PM
Some of these, Engman are you looking? I made this a couple years ago, fits right where the radio goes for 3 VDO guages and notched for the lock on the glove box.
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Posted by: Engman Aug 26 2005, 02:53 PM
Theres somone working on something like that now - perhaps *they* will come out and play.
M
Posted by: skline Aug 26 2005, 03:00 PM
I for one, would like to see bolt in Ceramic rotors and big calipers for the front and rear of the 914's with the 5 lug conversion. If you could get them around $500 complete, I think everyone would buy them. A fast car is only as good as it's brakes!
Posted by: olav Aug 26 2005, 03:02 PM
Rear valance with built-in/integrated diffuser.
Posted by: jr91472 Aug 26 2005, 03:09 PM
affordable, kitted oil cooler setup (specifically for a 914). Not a race kit, but something for us street guys in hot climates. (i.e. something mounted over the tranny.)
Posted by: goose2 Aug 26 2005, 03:11 PM
| QUOTE |
| Rear valance with built-in/integrated diffuser. |
I'll second that
Posted by: Jake Raby Aug 26 2005, 03:49 PM
| QUOTE (Engman @ Aug 26 2005, 12:49 PM) |
| Already have it - except it is called Jake Raby. M |
Actually nope....
Crate motors are mass prioduced, not attention to detail, loose toleranced piles of rubble assembled by non english speaking illegal aliens.....
Thats what happens in a factory that isn't ran by the car/engine Manufacturer...
I have zero desire to build one engine more per year than I currently do... That number gets fewer and fewer every year, this year I doub't we'll complete 25... But the development goes up every year, do does power and so does the price....
BTW- in 1998 I built 80 engines, all by myself- last year TWO of us completed 37...
| QUOTE |
| affordable, kitted oil cooler setup (specifically for a 914). Not a race kit, but something for us street guys in hot climates. (i.e. something mounted over the tranny.) |
If my new Billet oil coolers made from intercooler cores work well you may not need an external cooler at all.... Just bolt this baby in the stock location and drive...... I am testing them next week- all billet and bad ass!!!
Posted by: BMartin914 Aug 26 2005, 03:53 PM
| QUOTE (bowlsby @ Aug 26 2005, 11:46 AM) |
| MPS diaphragms.... |
Posted by: McMark Aug 26 2005, 04:41 PM
Who's got a stock uncut, original metal radio plate (rectangle and two holes) they can mail me?
Posted by: watsonrx13 Aug 26 2005, 04:53 PM
F-glass or plastic cover for relay board...
F-glass bumper tops, front and rear....
Posted by: bondo Aug 26 2005, 04:57 PM
| QUOTE (McMark @ Aug 26 2005, 03:41 PM) |
| Who's got a stock uncut, original metal radio plate (rectangle and two holes) they can mail me? |
I just checked mine.. hacked. I had assumed it was unhacked because it had an old school blaupunkt radio. So much for assumptions.
Posted by: Andyrew Aug 26 2005, 05:04 PM
More front and rear bumper options (theres like....2....) 916, or stock...(on the rear)
front, that racing boxy one, the 916, fiberworks, and stock.
A cup holder setup..... lol
sail pannel scoops would be awesome as said above.
front hood with louvers or such suitable for a radiator.... lol
Lexan light covers/box's. simular to the 944 race ones.
Mark, you mean one for the radio to go into? Or the plate to cover the spot up on...(My original is in my car I believe... I have the stock radio in the garage)
Posted by: jonwatts Aug 26 2005, 05:05 PM
| QUOTE (McMark @ Aug 26 2005, 03:41 PM) |
| Who's got a stock uncut, original metal radio plate (rectangle and two holes) they can mail me? |
I'm checking mine tonight at the request of Ferris Mueller.
Posted by: boxstr Aug 26 2005, 05:08 PM
I was going to go into production of the stainless steel dash inserts. After looking at all of the variables it is to time consuming and I am afraid it would mean a lot of shipping cost because of the size and weight.
Plus there are to many different configurations, check them out you will be suprised.
So I have instead been in contact with an ODD Parts Fabricator for the MPS diaphragms. I sent him some examples to work with and will be getting new information soon.
So if someone wants the dash insert business, go for it.
CCLINPRAISETHELOWERED
Posted by: McMark Aug 26 2005, 05:10 PM
| QUOTE (Andyrew @ Aug 26 2005, 03:04 PM) |
| Mark, you mean one for the radio to go into? Or the plate to cover the spot up on...(My original is in my car I believe... I have the stock radio in the garage) |
The thin sheet metal piece that looks similar to the picture posted earlier in this thread ( the picture above has three round holes, vs the stock rectangle and two holes).
Posted by: Andyrew Aug 26 2005, 05:11 PM
OH ya...
a wing mount like this...
thats what I want.....
Posted by: Andyrew Aug 26 2005, 05:16 PM
Sorry mark, just checked... Mine was hacked by the previous owner. (cut in the middle for radio... arg...) but it was housing the stock radio. Maybe the hacking is "dealer installed".. lol
If you still need it for a template... i'll send it to you..
Posted by: scotty b Aug 26 2005, 05:22 PM
904 gauge kit 
904 gauge kit 
904 gauge kit 
904 gauge kit 
904 gauge kit 
GOOD, WERKING, window regulators for early cars : Sheet metal panels that actually fit : Gruppe R taillights : partridge in the hair tree
Posted by: goose2 Aug 26 2005, 05:23 PM
| QUOTE |
| CCLINPRAISETHELOWERED |
Posted by: jonwatts Aug 26 2005, 05:36 PM
| QUOTE (Mueller @ Aug 26 2005, 12:39 PM) |
| CF stock replacment targa top |
Looking for a functional replacement that is lighter than stock but sturdier than the Sheridan skin.Posted by: airsix Aug 26 2005, 05:54 PM
(you said cheap)
In order of feasability:
6speed sequential gearbox
Posted by: airsix Aug 26 2005, 06:02 PM
| QUOTE (jonwatts @ Aug 26 2005, 03:36 PM) |
| Looking for a functional replacement that is lighter than stock but sturdier than the Sheridan skin. |
Jon,
I bet you could take a Sheridan skin and get really good strength out of it by either:
1. bond a foam sheet (1/8-1/4" or so) to the underside and glass over it making it double walled w/ foam core.
or
2. bond a foam cross-brace and perimiter brace to underside and glass over the foam.
-Ben M.
ps - How's the project? Blog us up an illustrated diary!
Posted by: scotty b Aug 26 2005, 06:03 PM
| QUOTE (airsix @ Aug 26 2005, 03:54 PM) |
| (you said cheap) In order of feasability: |
Posted by: jonwatts Aug 26 2005, 07:25 PM
Hi Ben,
Sure I could probably do all that, but why when I can underpay a good friend to do it for me?
I'd love to play with fiberglass and CF but I think these guys are serious and ready to get started. I'd rather support them than do it myself for the same amount of money (or more) and have it take longer.
As for the project, I've got so much left to do that I'm trying to offload what I can and still feel like I'm building the car. I do want to bloggit, just when there's something to blog.
But last week, for the first time in over a year, the car rolled 
I was pushing it onto Mueller's trailer
Posted by: airsix Aug 26 2005, 10:08 PM
| QUOTE (jonwatts @ Aug 26 2005, 05:25 PM) |
| I'd rather support them than do it myself for the same amount of money (or more) and have it take longer. |
I'm sorry, but that kind of logic just doesn't fit the spirit of the 914 owners community. A true 914 owner will take a full unpaid day off of work to spend 8 hours doing a 2 hour repair himself to save $20.
So the question is....
Who cured you?
Just Kidding.
So, do you think they can help me too?
Again, I'm only kidding.
So can they?
-Ben M.
Posted by: tat2dphreak Aug 26 2005, 10:19 PM
cheap chrome bumpers, chrome targa trim pieces, someone is already doing the fiberglass bumper tops(thank god!!)
I'm sure there's a shitload more stuff, but I'm wrecked! but that's a good thing!
Posted by: 0396 Aug 26 2005, 11:49 PM
Twin master cylinders that is easy to install.
Posted by: Jeff Bowlsby Aug 27 2005, 01:06 AM
How about replacements for those NLA items:
*Pleated rubber boot at the shift rod to rear housing penetration
*Plastic fuse box covers
*Rubber turnsignal wiring harness boots
*Plastic rear window caps
*New relay boards
For the big money...tinted see-through tops...like the Saratoga but better...maybe a top with clear resin and open CF weave fabric to let filtered light through
I am not into CF for my cars, but for those that are how about CF front, side, rear valences? CF engine tin? CF relay board cover? CF air filter box?
Posted by: jonwatts Aug 27 2005, 01:11 AM
| QUOTE (bowlsby @ Aug 27 2005, 12:06 AM) |
| *Plastic rear window caps |
Got a picture?
Posted by: Jeff Bowlsby Aug 27 2005, 01:18 AM
PP lists them as NLA for the early cars and only the right side is available for the late cars.
Window Guide End Cap, Left, 914 1.7 (1970-72), 914-6 (1970-72), Each
B-542-111-10
(OEM: 914-542-111-10) No Longer Available
Window Guide End Cap, Right, 914 1.7 (1970-72), 914-6 (1970-72), Each
B-542-112-10
(OEM: 914-542-112-10) No Longer Available
Window Guide End Cap, Left, 914 1.7/1.8/2.0 (1973-76), Each
B-542-173-10
(OEM: 914-542-173-10) No Longer Available
Window Guide End Cap, Right, 914 1.7/1.8/2.0 (1973-76), Each [Photo]
B-542-174-10
(OEM: 914-542-174-10) $9.25
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Posted by: jonwatts Aug 27 2005, 01:31 AM
Oh, I thought you meant rear window as in targa window.
Posted by: McMark Aug 27 2005, 01:39 AM
Bruce Napier is working on the plastic pieces.
Posted by: GWN7 Aug 27 2005, 01:50 AM
yep...up to mold # 11 that hasn't worked...but I'm still on it.
Plastic fuse box covers....Hmmmm
Posted by: tat2dphreak Aug 27 2005, 06:47 AM
I'd be down for a set of aftermarket sels... all of 'em... cheep
Posted by: DrifterJay Aug 27 2005, 07:10 AM
914r taillights 
carbon fiber hellhole
Posted by: stevenhaas Aug 27 2005, 11:44 AM
I am sure you guys will hate this but...... I want to turn my front oval blinker lights into a xenon headlights. Then use the a full hood and get rid of the pop ups all togather....
Posted by: lapuwali Aug 27 2005, 12:18 PM
| QUOTE (stevenhaas @ Aug 27 2005, 09:44 AM) |
| I am sure you guys will hate this but...... I want to turn my front oval blinker lights into a xenon headlights. Then use the a full hood and get rid of the pop ups all togather.... |
Felix is on xenon lights in the turn signals thing right now. Do a search.
Posted by: stevenhaas Aug 27 2005, 12:30 PM
hmmmm I can't seem to find anything....
Posted by: neo914-6 Aug 27 2005, 12:34 PM
Here you go, still researching how to get clear lenses molded...
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=35304&hl=
Posted by: SpecialK Aug 27 2005, 01:17 PM
| QUOTE (stevenhaas @ Aug 27 2005, 11:44 AM) |
| I am sure you guys will hate this but...... I want to turn my front oval blinker lights into a xenon headlights. Then use the a full hood and get rid of the pop ups all togather.... |
Actually, that would be cool IMHO! I faguely remember a member doing just that (or toying with the idea) a year or so ago. Never did see the final product though.
...I say do it!The CF top is on the long list of "Sh*t To Do" (already have all of the CF cloth, waiting on buying the resin until I'm just about ready to do it........at the rate I get things done, it'd reach it's expiration date before I got around to it).
Been designing (CAD) CF rockers w/ducts and dampeners to feed air to the cooling fan on the engine (able to close them off in cold or wet weather...maybe a cable system like the heater flapper valves
), with a matching CF stockish looking ducktail spoiler.An A/C evaporator that is completely contained in the engine compartment (most likely a FG housing just to save bucks), using the existing ducts to move the cooled air to the passenger compartment (hate those underdash units). Got all of the donor parts, just have to wait until I get the engine back in to take the measurements for the housing. Condenser coils (one in each rear fender well), intakes are Boxsterlike scoops, vented low and behind the rear wheels.
Been pondering CFing the inside of the tub (as mentioned earlier) using unidirectional CF prepreg.......extra thick along the longs, lower back portion (ala Mark's stiffening kit), center tunnel, and tying back into the longs across the footwell. It would be layed up over the stock metal (coated to protect the metal from the CF), and vacuum bagged/bonded to eliminate air pockets/bubbles.....wouldn't be all that difficult, just a bit time consuming and messy.
No biggies:
CF stock gauge panel
CF engine tin
I've been messing with CF/Kevlar for years (at work), and I highly recommend Burt Rutan's book:
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/bvpages/moldless.php
It has some practical practice projects (say that three times fast) to get your confidence up. It's mainly for experimental aircraft builders, but if you can get you 914 lightened up enough, it'd really fly (around the AX course)!
Posted by: grantsfo Aug 27 2005, 01:30 PM
Dream Stuff:
* CF tub
* A Boxster inspired 4 cylinder Porsche crate engine
* Porsche ceramic brake kit
* Rust romoval and patch in a spray can
Closer to reality:
* Updated aluminum suspension arms
* Minimalist CF dash
* CF engine lid
* CF rocker panels
* CF integrated hood and front fenders with tilt forward design.
* CF doors with working internals and glass - could include rengineered door latches
* A cost effective (under $1500) after market Fuel Injection system that works
* A turnkey Boxster engine and tranny conversion kit
* Turnkey suspension kit: Updated bolt on hubs with modern bearings, etc., vented brake brake rotors, bigger calipers, full coilover suspension.
* A well designed prefabricated roll cage kit
* Modular stereo system that can be removed for track days
* Modular AC unit that can be hooked up and removed easily
* RS style door panels
* Cost effective fuel cell that replaces stock gas tank
* Cost effective stainless steel header and exhuast system
* A high quality volume Type 4 production facility in China (yes you can set up quality operations in China). Make sure to send Jakes video with Mandarin subtitles. Focus on making one engine, 2270cc with Nickies, etc for lowest possible price. Sell said engines at Wal Mart.
* Nice stainless steel fuel line replacement kit
* Aftermarket close ratio 6 speed transmission
* Affordable LSD
* Aftermarket ABS system
* Polished aluminum bumpers
* A quality volume/affordable turnkey 914-6 conversion kit
* Bolt in CF sport seats
* CF mirrors that bolt on to stock mounts
* Cold Air Intake that increases performance on T4 fuel injected engines
* Headlight motor delete kit that includes manual way to put headlights up the few times I use them!
* Updated seat belt replacement kit
Posted by: jonwatts Aug 27 2005, 01:33 PM
| QUOTE (Buzzard1 @ Aug 27 2005, 12:17 PM) |
| I faguely remember a member |
Not that there's anything wrong with that
| QUOTE |
| Been pondering CFing the inside of the tub |
What would be the reason for this? Looks?
Posted by: jonwatts Aug 27 2005, 01:37 PM
| QUOTE (grantsfo @ Aug 27 2005, 12:30 PM) |
| Closer to reality: |
My jaw was dropping at this "reality" list until I saw where you're from
Great stuff, but I think most of it belongs on the "dream" list
Posted by: SpecialK Aug 27 2005, 01:40 PM
| QUOTE (jonwatts @ Aug 27 2005, 01:33 PM) | ||
What would be the reason for this? Looks? |
Uhhh......stiffening?
Lighter that steel.........stiffer that wedding day dick!
I suppose that you could use the tub as a mold, and sell them as CF tub inserts (for "stiffening"), but unless they were properly bonded to the tub you'd gain nothing but extra weight.
Posted by: grantsfo Aug 27 2005, 01:42 PM
| QUOTE (jonwatts @ Aug 27 2005, 11:37 AM) | ||
My jaw was dropping at this "reality" list until I saw where you're from Great stuff, but I think most of it belongs on the "dream" list |
Hey I'm an optimist
Posted by: jonwatts Aug 27 2005, 01:47 PM
| QUOTE (Buzzard1 @ Aug 27 2005, 12:40 PM) |
| Uhhh......stiffening? Lighter that steel......... |
Ahh, I think it'd also be more flexible than steel unless you have a huge autoclave to be your pressure cooker. That's how they make carbon fiber race car chassis. Everything else is pretty much just prettier and slightly lighter than fiberglass.
Posted by: scott thacher Aug 27 2005, 01:53 PM
well i have figured out how to do a fg engine lid, with rain tray to clear carbs. it is an AL frame bonded in the glass. it would accept the stock mesh, and could be cut in to a gt lid. it would use the stock latch, be be just a lift out item after the latch is released.
it should weight about about 8 to 10 lbs with rain tray.
i just dont have the money to produce the molds, but if some one wants to order one i can use the money for their lid to make the molds and the lid.
if you want to see what i can do with fiberglass, http://www.geocities.com/greymac52.geo/ then scroll down the the akula boat discription
Posted by: jonwatts Aug 27 2005, 01:54 PM
Another of my own dumb ideas:
A copy of the firewall in CF or FG from either side (engine compartment or passenger compartment) to sandwich against the metal with a layer of insulation to help with sound deadening. Then again, the fact that the top layer would be a hard surface might mitigate any benefits from the insulation layer
Just trying to think of a way to reduce noise for those who think taking out the sound pad makes the cars too loud.
Posted by: SpecialK Aug 27 2005, 02:07 PM
| QUOTE (jonwatts @ Aug 27 2005, 01:47 PM) | ||
Ahh, I think it'd also be more flexible than steel unless you have a huge autoclave to be your pressure cooker. That's how they make carbon fiber race car chassis. Everything else is pretty much just prettier and slightly lighter than fiberglass. |
That's what the vacuum bagging is for (14.7 psia with a good vacuum pump...got one) and IR lamps (got 'em) take care of the heat (FYI 180F - 200F for one hour after 1 hour of ambient temp cure). It reduces the resin content of the composite material (resin rich is weak and cracks, resin poor is weak and porous) through the bleeder and breather plys to near optimum (or as close as you can get in a garage setting). I've done many, many, many repairs on composite structures (wings, stabilators, fuselages) in the last 18 years, all had to be NDT inspected, all checked good. Let's just put it this way.....I trust my composite reinforcement skills waaaay more than my ability to weld. Need more practice I guess...
Posted by: jonwatts Aug 27 2005, 02:23 PM
| QUOTE (Buzzard1 @ Aug 27 2005, 01:07 PM) |
| I've done many, many, many repairs on composite structures (wings, stabilators, fuselages) in the last 18 years, all had to be NDT inspected, all checked good. |
I think a local expert has spoken
Posted by: scottb Aug 27 2005, 03:05 PM
i want a good a/c that, would be efficient (not suck too much hp) and will use the factory ducts so everyone can have a cool(er) car in summer. it would be nice to be able to drive my car on the days when i need to wear a suit for work rather than taking the family mobile.......
and my wife would dig it too.
must be asy to install as well.... oh, and priced reasonably....
now i need to wake up from the dream....
Posted by: Sammy Aug 27 2005, 03:17 PM
a six cylinder conversion kit that places the engine in the back (rear engine) where it belongs
ducking for cover.
Posted by: SpecialK Aug 27 2005, 04:15 PM
| QUOTE (jonwatts @ Aug 27 2005, 01:54 PM) |
| Another of my own dumb ideas: A copy of the firewall in CF or FG from either side (engine compartment or passenger compartment) to sandwich against the metal with a layer of insulation to help with sound deadening. Then again, the fact that the top layer would be a hard surface might mitigate any benefits from the insulation layer Just trying to think of a way to reduce noise for those who think taking out the sound pad makes the cars too loud. |
Not "dumb" at all (IMO)
, I purchased 9 yds. of Texalium awhile back (99% aluminum impregnated fiberglass, a.k.a - silver carbon fiber) just for that reason. I figured a three piece firewall (center hump, two sides), one piece would be a PITA to remove if you had to. Using the firewall as a mold, make two of everything, and sandwich some soundening material (looking at that brown bread stuff, or possibly 1/2" ceramic insulation used in kilns) between them. Another layer of deadening material to the inside of the firewall, and attach the texalium firewall bits to the engine compartment side with removable fasteners going through rubber grommets to lessen the transmission of vibration, and also create an air space (to keep rust from forming like the stock POS) between the metal firewall and the "theoretical" sound deadener panels...(looks good on paper
). At the very least, the double layers of texalium should be an excellent heat reflector (99% aluminum, especially if I went with the ceramic insulation), and a whole bunch lighter than the stock rustubator blanket.Contemplating using the same technique to make heat shields that are fitted above the SS heat exchangers (with 1/4" ceramic insulation).
I just realized that if my () keys broke on my keyboard I'd be screwed!! 
(yeah...screwed for sure!! )
Posted by: jr91472 Aug 27 2005, 04:27 PM
| QUOTE (Jake Raby @ Aug 26 2005, 01:49 PM) |
| If my new Billet oil coolers made from intercooler cores work well you may not need an external cooler at all.... Just bolt this baby in the stock location and drive...... I am testing them next week- all billet and bad ass!!! |
cool, keep me posted. All they big dollars?
Posted by: Mark Henry Aug 27 2005, 04:42 PM
Low profile front side marker lights that look almost OEM
Posted by: Jake Raby Aug 27 2005, 04:55 PM
| QUOTE (jr91472 @ Aug 27 2005, 02:27 PM) |
| cool, keep me posted. All they big dollars? |
They won't be bad at all... Probably 200.00 or less- and they bolt right on to the stock case boss AND will have a modified airfoil to help squeeze more pressure into the cavity to make up for the loss of having a bigger cooler core (surface area)...
I am working on 3 of them for different apps as we speak, one is much bigger for the DTM/ 914 applications -
200$ isn't bad for a hand fabbed, oil cooler....
Posted by: ArtechnikA Aug 27 2005, 05:11 PM
| QUOTE (Jake Raby @ Aug 27 2005, 06:55 PM) |
| 200$ isn't bad for a hand fabbed, oil cooler.... |
no kidding.
a new early 911 or 914.6 cooler is over a grand...
Posted by: Tobra Aug 27 2005, 05:11 PM
| QUOTE (Jake Raby @ Aug 27 2005, 02:55 PM) | ||
They won't be bad at all... Probably 200.00 or less- and they bolt right on to the stock case boss AND will have a modified airfoil to help squeeze more pressure into the cavity to make up for the loss of having a bigger cooler core (surface area)... I am working on 3 of them for different apps as we speak, one is much bigger for the DTM/ 914 applications - 200$ isn't bad for a hand fabbed, oil cooler.... |
I would buy one, or more accurately, I would stick a note on my wife's pillow and get it for Christmas or my birthday, or something. It weems to me, that once you hve the molds for the rubber seals, you can make all you want. It also seems to me that there is definitely a market for this, because 914 people seem much more compulsive about their cars than bug people. They make reproduction seals for VW's, why not for these? Hey you Pelican guys, what is the holdup, I know they sell a ton of stuff to people here, who is bitching to them about this, I mean besides me.
Posted by: Jake Raby Aug 27 2005, 05:34 PM
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| It also seems to me that there is definitely a market for this, because 914 people seem much more compulsive about their cars than bug people |
Big difference though... The bug guys spend A LOT more money on their engines than teeners do.... Thats why I have pretty much gave up on making new and exciting things for the 914 version of the TIV engine... Those Billet oil coolers are really being made for the VW Bus guys (TIV engine) that have oil temperature issues and certainly don't want an external cooler.
Heck I only did the 914 version of the DTM because I had enough people wanting them that it would pay for the mold to be made...
Posted by: lapuwali Aug 27 2005, 05:47 PM
| QUOTE (Jake Raby @ Aug 27 2005, 03:34 PM) | ||
Big difference though... The bug guys spend A LOT more money on their engines than teeners do.... Thats why I have pretty much gave up on making new and exciting things for the 914 version of the TIV engine... Those Billet oil coolers are really being made for the VW Bus guys (TIV engine) that have oil temperature issues and certainly don't want an external cooler. Heck I only did the 914 version of the DTM because I had enough people wanting them that it would pay for the mold to be made... |
And I think the reason for this is simple: there are LOTS of Bug shows around the world, and people accept highly modified Bugs as show cars. There are several Bug specific magazines, all possible venues for nicely modified cars to be shown off. This is not true in the 914 world. 914s are not generally considered worthwhile at Porsche shows, and there's no other show circuit for them to inhabit. I suspect most of the big spenders in Bug land intend to compete with the cars. With a 914, the only avenues for competition are AX (which doesn't really lend itself to a big budget) and road-racing (which is a very limited market).
Posted by: SGB Aug 27 2005, 06:16 PM
genuinly producible items-
my own idea:
rear brake pad clearance screw cover piece (plastic-moldable )
Other good ideas
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| Rubber turnsignal wiring harness boots |
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| Window Guide End Cap, |
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| CF stock replacment targa top |
Posted by: cooltimes Aug 27 2005, 06:38 PM
A virtual reality, troubleshooting animated 914. You click on the area that you are having a problem with. That area becomes a 3D sector that has all the possible components that give headaches to the owners. You click a particular item and the typical problems that occur to that trouble related item are animated, complete with generated trouble sound. It can be done but I can only make up these ideas. LOL
Also, if nobody has mentioned in any of the posts, which I haven't read, a quadrant for shifting smoothly even if without it you occassionly hear that dreaded scraping, grinding gear shifting noise.
We are dreaming, huh? LOL
Posted by: jr91472 Aug 27 2005, 06:58 PM
| QUOTE (Jake Raby @ Aug 27 2005, 02:55 PM) |
| They won't be bad at all... Probably 200.00 or less- and they bolt right on to the stock case boss AND will have a modified airfoil to help squeeze more pressure into the cavity to make up for the loss of having a bigger cooler core (surface area)... I am working on 3 of them for different apps as we speak, one is much bigger for the DTM/ 914 applications - 200$ isn't bad for a hand fabbed, oil cooler.... |
Sounds ideal. My teener flirts with the 240's on really hot days. If I can knock 20-30deg off of that without extra hoses, sandwich plates, etc.....I am in!!!!
Posted by: Jake Raby Aug 27 2005, 07:37 PM
Thats exactly who will benefit the most from the cooler- Guys that are borderline and just need a few more degrees to be acceptable/safe...
The dummy oil cooler that we cut apart to make the prototype units was from Danica Patrick's Indy car.... It is also made from the same intercooler core material.... and the same fabricator makes them up for her- damn guy is amazing!
Posted by: GWN7 Aug 27 2005, 08:14 PM
| QUOTE (SGB @ Aug 27 2005, 04:16 PM) |
| rear brake pad clearance screw cover piece (plastic-moldable ) Low profile front side marker lights that look almost OEM |
Someone was going to send me one of these to sample. From the pictures he sent is is quite easy to make those. All I need is 1 good one.
I was told they are also used on eyetalian cars.
Replacements for the NLA left side marker lens are almost available. To make a shorter version I would need a prototype of what you wanted.
Posted by: STL914 Aug 27 2005, 08:15 PM
An inexpensive, bolt-on, conversion unit that would allow
me to burn distilled water instead of that high priced petroleum by product currently available. Oh yeah, it has to increase my MPG to at least 60.
Posted by: Jeroen Aug 27 2005, 08:23 PM
I'm paying over $6.50 for a gallon here, so what are you complaining 'bout???
Posted by: bd1308 Aug 27 2005, 09:07 PM
how in the world do you do it man?
Posted by: scotty b Aug 27 2005, 09:25 PM
Since were all on this C.F. kick and no one else has mentioned it.....how about a C.F. backpad mold. EVERY 914 I have ever owned/werked on/ bought & sold has been rotten on the bottom. I don't have ANY good ones and have 3 cars lined up that will be very nice, to perfect if I could have decent back pads. Shpould be relativly easy for someone with experience and a vaccum bagger hint hint hint
Posted by: itsa914 Aug 27 2005, 09:51 PM
| QUOTE (goose2 @ Aug 26 2005, 12:24 PM) |
| Minimalist, weld on steel flares....about half the width of the GT flares. |
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| F-glass bumper tops, front and rear |
There was a guy at the MWC that was selling these. I'll be damn if I can find the flyer of his I picked up. Not sure on his prices, $200 ish each I think. Anyone.........
Posted by: bd1308 Aug 27 2005, 09:56 PM
| QUOTE (scotty b @ Aug 27 2005, 09:25 PM) |
| Since were all on this C.F. kick and no one else has mentioned it.....how about a C.F. backpad mold. EVERY 914 I have ever owned/werked on/ bought & sold has been rotten on the bottom. I don't have ANY good ones and have 3 cars lined up that will be very nice, to perfect if I could have decent back pads. Shpould be relativly easy for someone with experience and a vaccum bagger hint hint hint |
all of my metal clips are broken on mine......
sounds good to me
Posted by: Jeff Bowlsby Aug 27 2005, 10:02 PM
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| * A cost effective (under $1500) after market Fuel Injection system that works |
We are there already...MS, SDS, Link...
Posted by: YksKrad Aug 27 2005, 10:25 PM
Diffrent door panels... something with more shape and meat too them... They seem to plain... The two toned interior on my car turns heads, but the doors seem out of place...
edit
I saw this in another post, and this is what I'd like... minus the carpet part...
Posted by: johnmhudson111 Aug 27 2005, 11:05 PM
| QUOTE (tat2dphreak @ Aug 26 2005, 11:19 PM) |
| cheap chrome bumpers, chrome targa trim pieces, someone is already doing the fiberglass bumper tops(thank god!!) |
I would like to see all the trim in black, instead of chrome.
Posted by: SpecialK Aug 28 2005, 12:54 AM
| QUOTE (scotty b @ Aug 27 2005, 09:25 PM) |
| Since were all on this C.F. kick and no one else has mentioned it.....how about a C.F. backpad mold. EVERY 914 I have ever owned/werked on/ bought & sold has been rotten on the bottom. I don't have ANY good ones and have 3 cars lined up that will be very nice, to perfect if I could have decent back pads. Shpould be relativly easy for someone with experience and a vaccum bagger hint hint hint |
get some fiberglass resin (type not important) and thin it with some acetone, or MEK, and paint the fiberous part of the backpad. Just make sure you don't reinstall the backpad until the resin has cured completely, or you might not get it back out in one piece...........
Or cover the firewall with heavy gauge plastic like disposible drop cloth, and reinstall the pad to make sure it conforms to the firewall correctly. Let it cure, and remove the plastic.
Posted by: redshift Aug 28 2005, 12:58 AM
| QUOTE (Jeroen @ Aug 27 2005, 10:23 PM) |
| I'm paying over $6.50 for a gallon here, so what are you complaining 'bout??? |
Not having 'free' health care...
L M A O...
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Posted by: tat2dphreak Aug 28 2005, 09:57 AM
| QUOTE (YksKrad @ Aug 27 2005, 11:25 PM) |
| Diffrent door panels... something with more shape and meat too them... They seem to plain... The two toned interior on my car turns heads, but the doors seem out of place... edit I saw this in another post, and this is what I'd like... minus the carpet part... |
morphenspectra made mine... look very similar to those... amazing quality and fiberglass backing!!!
great price too, IMHOI'm all over that oil cooler too Jake, !!
stock one is over 100 now, I'd pay 200 for lowering the oil temp and not having to run external... Posted by: jonwatts Aug 29 2005, 10:02 AM
I believe this is the radio plate from my '73 and after looking at it again me thinks it's not correct; there's no cut-out for the glovebox lock. Might be from another P-car? Comments are welcome.
Oh, and I might be interested in some CF headlight covers that incorporate the eyebrow like on the Chalon cars. I'd like to improve on that design a little (just the headlight design).
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Posted by: lapuwali Aug 29 2005, 10:19 AM
| QUOTE (jonwatts @ Aug 29 2005, 08:02 AM) |
| I believe this is the radio plate from my '73 and after looking at it again me thinks it's not correct; there's no cut-out for the glovebox lock. Might be from another P-car? Comments are welcome. Oh, and I might be interested in some CF headlight covers that incorporate the eyebrow like on the Chalon cars. I'd like to improve on that design a little (just the headlight design). |
That's not a radio plate, that the fusebox plate.
Posted by: Aaron Cox Aug 29 2005, 10:29 AM
| QUOTE (lapuwali @ Aug 29 2005, 09:19 AM) | ||
That's not a radio plate, that the fusebox plate. |
fuse box and relays sit on it under your dash....
Posted by: jonwatts Aug 29 2005, 10:59 AM
Evidence of how long since I removed it from the car.
Posted by: zymurgist Aug 29 2005, 11:15 AM
How about the plastic clips that hold the targa roof in place in the trunk? If these are already available in repro, I'm not aware of them, and even when you can find good originals, the newest piece is 30 years old and brittle.
Posted by: Rotary'14 Aug 29 2005, 11:26 AM
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| How about the plastic clips that hold the targa roof in place in the trunk? If these are already available in repro, I'm not aware of them, and even when you can find good originals, the newest piece is 30 years old and brittle. |
Those are made by one of our members here,,,
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=ST&f=4&t=32563
Posted by: goose2 Aug 29 2005, 11:26 AM
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| plastic clips that hold the targa roof in place in the trunk? |
Still available new OEM, I think. I got some from Craig once...the rubber ones at the rear too.
Posted by: zymurgist Aug 29 2005, 11:30 AM
| QUOTE (Rotary'14 @ Aug 29 2005, 12:26 PM) | ||
Those are made by one of our members here,,, http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=ST&f=4&t=32563 |
Sweet!
Posted by: Rockaria Aug 29 2005, 11:36 AM
I always wanted a better center console system that was more like a 993 or so. With a smaller front shift/gauge holder, but it would go all the way to the firewall and have a better glove box type thing in it, maybe armrest height. Somthing I could carpet or vinyl cover.
Maybe??
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Posted by: goose2 Aug 29 2005, 11:50 AM
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| better center console system |
I have thought about this too...would be nice to have it narrower than the stock type for more foot room, include a cup holder for my coffee, a lockable arm rest box or storage locker, a sub woofer and gauges/switches. Sounds like a project for James (Morphenspectra). How about it james...can we fit in a gps screen and dvd monitor, a couple big amps, and one of those 12V 'fridge/heater combos too?
Posted by: URY914 Aug 29 2005, 12:31 PM
What are you using to seal the plug wire/connector where it enters the engine tin? My wires were a Accel universal kit and didn't have the seals with it.
Has anyone found something else to use?
I may ask this as a seperate thread to get some responces.
Paul
Posted by: Chromatech Aug 29 2005, 12:44 PM
| QUOTE (STL914 @ Aug 27 2005, 06:15 PM) |
| An inexpensive, bolt-on, conversion unit that would allow me to burn distilled water instead of that high priced petroleum by product currently available. Oh yeah, it has to increase my MPG to at least 60. |
This would be fine if you set up your own still.....
We are paying $0.97/L (CDN) for Regular. If I walk into the corner convenience store to buy bottled (not distilled) water, it will cost me $1.97/L........go figure! I think I'll stick to regular!
Cheers
Posted by: tat2dphreak Aug 29 2005, 01:09 PM
good quality, easy to install, competitively priced grommetts... all of them... most of mine are hosed...
Posted by: brownaar Aug 29 2005, 01:26 PM
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| new Billet oil coolers made from intercooler cores work well you may not need an external cooler at all |
This I need. Jake, you'll make a fortune if these work!
Posted by: Targa Aug 29 2005, 02:21 PM
How about CF trunk lids? Is anyone making these? I wonder how much weight you can save? Does anyone know what the difference in weight is with FG vs. stock?
Posted by: ArtechnikA Aug 29 2005, 02:26 PM
| QUOTE (Targa @ Aug 29 2005, 04:21 PM) |
| How about CF trunk lids? Is anyone making these? |
http://www.gettydesign.com
CF and FG both; several guys here have the CF lids.
donno the weight difference tho.
for many Getty parts there are both "street weight" and "track weight" in both CF and 'glass, 4 weights total. i haven't had much success getting those weights from Getty for any named part...
Posted by: scotty b Aug 29 2005, 06:17 PM
| QUOTE (tat2dphreak @ Aug 29 2005, 11:09 AM) |
| good quality, easy to install, competitively priced grommetts... all of them... most of mine are hosed... |
YEEAAHHHH DUDE! All my grommets are hosed to brah. They all ran off with some betty's and left me holdin the stash, and now I'm hosed too.
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Posted by: Lawrence Aug 29 2005, 06:50 PM
- Good German squareweave carpet kits... reasonably priced. OE ones are apparently made from spun gold.
- Trunk carpet kits, i.e. Porsche 916
- 914/6 dash clips (NLA)
- 914/6 shifter cover (NLA)
- new 914/4 CV joints
- Replacement shift knobs
- the little disk inserts for the instrument switches & lighter.
-Rusty 
Posted by: 0396 Aug 29 2005, 07:25 PM
Mike,
Are you consolidating this 'wish' list for the ecom site?
Posted by: Aaron Cox Aug 29 2005, 07:53 PM
| QUOTE (Lawrence @ Aug 29 2005, 05:50 PM) |
| - Good German squareweave carpet kits... reasonably priced. OE ones are apparently made from spun gold. - Trunk carpet kits, i.e. Porsche 916 - 914/6 dash clips (NLA) - 914/6 shifter cover (NLA) - new 914/4 CV joints - Replacement shift knobs - the little disk inserts for the instrument switches & lighter. -Rusty |
916 carpet kits are available from mittelmotor in germany.
covers everything in front and back trunks
Posted by: jonwatts Sep 6 2005, 05:21 PM
PS - to avoid another situation like the 4 lug vented rotors maybe you (whoever "you" is) should find out what people are willing to pay for stuff before investing in too much R&D. Never hurts to be reminded what a bunch of CSOB's you're catering to
Posted by: Bleyseng Sep 6 2005, 07:16 PM
Well said, Jon.
Posted by: SpecialK Sep 6 2005, 07:42 PM
| QUOTE (Bleyseng @ Sep 6 2005, 07:16 PM) |
| Well said, Jon. |
So you're saying 2K for a CF roof isn't going to fly?
How about 1K for a sticker that you can but on your roof to make everyone think it's CF........uh, from 30 ft. away.
Posted by: McMark Sep 6 2005, 10:32 PM
As the 914s gain in value (yes it's happening) more and more people are going to be willing to pony up for nice items. People like Joe (914RS), Felix (Neo914), and others are really setting the bar high. It's people like them who are out in front, taking risks that are pushing our lovable little car into the limelight.
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