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Posted by: Ishley Jan 18 2025, 09:38 PM
I watched a replay of today’s action on the 917. A lot of great cars today. This one was the McQueen of the ball.
I’m not sure if it ever sold.
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Posted by: vintage914racer Jan 18 2025, 10:07 PM
It bid to $25 million and didn’t hit reserve.
Posted by: sixnotfour Jan 18 2025, 10:08 PM
Probably will sell privately...
Posted by: Ishley Jan 18 2025, 10:25 PM
Went back and reread some of the history of this car and time. Amazing time for race car development. The risks that drivers and manufacturers took… nearly bankrupting their businesses. And how the heck do you cool the inner cylinders on a flat 12. I guess when you hit 240mph on the straights you get enough air flow.
Can you imagine being passed in a 914 by this beast?
Posted by: davehg Jan 19 2025, 12:15 AM
It was exciting to watch - the crowd was really hoping for a sale and booed when it didn’t hammer sold. I agree that it will sell, possible this weekend.
It was cool to see Brian Redmond and Steve’s grandson Chase side by side chatting as the bidding climbed quickly.
Posted by: Maltese Falcon Jan 19 2025, 03:15 AM
Significant slice of LeMans history 
Posted by: smg914 Jan 19 2025, 10:11 AM
Can you imagine being passed in a 914 by this beast?
I experienced that exact situation. It was at the NNJR 48 Hours at The Glen in 1975 or 1976 or maybe 1977. I was in my stock 1973 2 liter, beyond half way down the long back straight going as fast as the car would go. Maybe a little over 100 mph (if I recall, a lot of that long back straight is an uphill grade). This was prior to the install of the bus stop chicane. I checked my mirrors and there wasn’t a car in sight. I relaxed a bit, flexed my hands and fingers and checked the gauges. All of a sudden out of nowhere Chuck Stoddard in his white 917 flew by me just a couple of feet away from the passenger side going in the neighborhood of 200 mph. It was a complete surprise that scared the shit out of me. There was no need for me to wear earplugs in my stock street car but when that 917 passed me at full song just feet from my ears, it was an experience I will never forget. Not to mention that it almost blew my car off the track.
Posted by: Maltese Falcon Jan 19 2025, 10:19 AM
Will never get tired of looking at the Stance of (any) 917, the amount of tire on the road surface JUST amazing.
Front and rear magnesium wheels from one of (late) Vasek Polak's 917 spares at a friend's shop >> pick it up with ease !
Posted by: carr914 Jan 19 2025, 11:11 AM
I guess Jerry didn't want to sell the 917.
I was with him the day he bought it
Posted by: 930cabman Jan 19 2025, 12:47 PM
Can you imagine being passed in a 914 by this beast?
I experienced that exact situation. It was at the NNJR 48 Hours at The Glen in 1975 or 1976 or maybe 1977. I was in my stock 1973 2 liter, beyond half way down the long back straight going as fast as the car would go. Maybe a little over 100 mph (if I recall, a lot of that long back straight is an uphill grade). This was prior to the install of the bus stop chicane. I checked my mirrors and there wasn’t a car in sight. I relaxed a bit, flexed my hands and fingers and checked the gauges. All of a sudden out of nowhere Chuck Stoddard in his white 917 flew by me just a couple of feet away from the passenger side going in the neighborhood of 200 mph. It was a complete surprise that scared the shit out of me. There was no need for me to wear earplugs in my stock street car but when that 917 passed me at full song just feet from my ears, it was an experience I will never forget. Not to mention that it almost blew my car off the track.
and you thought everything was peachy. had to be the shock of a lifetime
Posted by: johnlush Jan 19 2025, 01:15 PM
This is as close as I can get to affording a 917K. Think I'll install it on my '71 914-6...
Posted by: Maltese Falcon Jan 19 2025, 01:21 PM
I guess Jerry didn't want to sell the 917.
I was with him the day he bought it
Otis Chandler would bring it out to RIR, along with his #6 Sunoco 917/30, 935, and blast them around on POC race weekends. His driving skills were 100%. Team known as 'Vintage Racing, good old days>> before he sold everything off
Posted by: Unobtanium-inc Jan 19 2025, 02:24 PM
I still have some resin ones from the last batch if anyone really has to have one, but is 25 mil short!
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Posted by: Maltese Falcon Jan 19 2025, 03:06 PM
I still have some resin ones from the last batch if anyone really has to have one, but is 25 mil short!
These are beautiful
Posted by: carr914 Jan 19 2025, 06:53 PM
my Sources tell me that Mecom had bought the 917 and used it to over promote the Auction. They never intended to sell it! 
Posted by: carr914 Jan 19 2025, 07:00 PM
Posted by: Ishley Jan 19 2025, 07:18 PM
I think that would be fraud. I doubt Mecum would take that kind of risk with a bidder with deep enough pockets to bid on a 25M car.
Posted by: Maltese Falcon Jan 19 2025, 08:52 PM
When Otis C./ 'Vintage Racing owned it, he ran the #1 on the car for his POC exhibit laps.John Thomas (of Bozzani P+A) was his co-driver. On the L/hand plexiglass window there are 2 stickers: one is POC and the other is (Dan McLoughlin's) A-I-R custom fiberglass body panels >> mostly Porsche/ IMSA specific racecars.
Otis had an extreme collection: 917 Gulf, 917-30 Sunoco (Talledega rekord car), 935, 934, 930*, 916.
*I built a set of SS race headers for his street turbo>> installed in Hollwood at Bob Smith P+A 
As far as the Mecum Auction shenanigans go...Let the flippers + the sharks enjoy their lifestyle 
Posted by: 914_teener Jan 19 2025, 10:26 PM
Had to laugh......
The auction house listed in the specs a V-12. Maybe that's why it didn't sell?
Posted by: carr914 Jan 20 2025, 05:30 AM
I think that would be fraud. I doubt Mecum would take that kind of risk with a bidder with deep enough pockets to bid on a 25M car.
It had a Reserve, so it wouldn't matter who owned it.
Posted by: Spoke Jan 20 2025, 08:49 AM
My version of that car didn't set me back that much.
I do have some personal experience with the 917 but not as an adult but as a 13 year old kid.
In 1970 my parents and I camped at Watkins Glen. I knew nothing about the race track or races. There were posters everywhere for the CanAm race that weekend. I begged my dad that I wanted to go so we went to the ticket office and when the person said $25/ticket, my dad was already out the door. We're not going.
That week during a rainstorm, my parents watched a young couple try to set up their tent. Didn't take long for my mom to tell my dad we have to help them. I grabbed my shovel and off we went to help them get set up.
On the morning of the CanAm race, the guy came over to thank my dad for helping saying his father-in-law was sick and couldn't make it. So he gave us 2 tickets. It was fantastic.
At that time after races, people would storm the track and the pits. I was able to stand right beside the 917s in the pits afterwards. Beautiful cars and etched in my memory.
We made the 6-hour endurance and CanAm races at the Glen in '71 and '72.
Posted by: mmichalik Jan 20 2025, 09:08 AM
I know it goes without saying but the car is even more impressive in person, particularly when you can get up close to it.
I went to a private car collection two years ago, up in Corona California and the #2 car was there. It was awesome to see.
We weren't allowed to climb on it. He had two original GT 40's that he let us get in and poke around but the 917 was there to look at only.
Posted by: 930cabman Jan 20 2025, 10:12 AM
My version of that car didn't set me back that much.
I do have some personal experience with the 917 but not as an adult but as a 13 year old kid.
In 1970 my parents and I camped at Watkins Glen. I knew nothing about the race track or races. There were posters everywhere for the CanAm race that weekend. I begged my dad that I wanted to go so we went to the ticket office and when the person said $25/ticket, my dad was already out the door. We're not going.
That week during a rainstorm, my parents watched a young couple try to set up their tent. Didn't take long for my mom to tell my dad we have to help them. I grabbed my shovel and off we went to help them get set up.
On the morning of the CanAm race, the guy came over to thank my dad for helping saying his father-in-law was sick and couldn't make it. So he gave us 2 tickets. It was fantastic.
At that time after races, people would storm the track and the pits. I was able to stand right beside the 917s in the pits afterwards. Beautiful cars and etched in my memory.
We made the 6-hour endurance and CanAm races at the Glen in '71 and '72.
great story, I guess what goes around, comes back around. and here we are 1/2 century later
Posted by: 930cabman Jan 20 2025, 10:12 AM
My version of that car didn't set me back that much.
I do have some personal experience with the 917 but not as an adult but as a 13 year old kid.
In 1970 my parents and I camped at Watkins Glen. I knew nothing about the race track or races. There were posters everywhere for the CanAm race that weekend. I begged my dad that I wanted to go so we went to the ticket office and when the person said $25/ticket, my dad was already out the door. We're not going.
That week during a rainstorm, my parents watched a young couple try to set up their tent. Didn't take long for my mom to tell my dad we have to help them. I grabbed my shovel and off we went to help them get set up.
On the morning of the CanAm race, the guy came over to thank my dad for helping saying his father-in-law was sick and couldn't make it. So he gave us 2 tickets. It was fantastic.
At that time after races, people would storm the track and the pits. I was able to stand right beside the 917s in the pits afterwards. Beautiful cars and etched in my memory.
We made the 6-hour endurance and CanAm races at the Glen in '71 and '72.
great story, I guess what goes around, comes back around. and here we are 1/2 century later
Posted by: GregAmy Jan 20 2025, 10:38 AM
I'd always thought I'd want to drive one of those...right up until around the time I turned 40 and saw one of 'em up close and personal without the bodywork on it. And noted where the driver sat. And noted what was (not) around said driver.
No thanks.
Drivers back then were not particular braver than today's, and engineers didn't want to kill their drivers more back then...but it's just that we didn't know any better.
I got to see - and hear - Donahue Jr driving one of those at Rennsport Reunion 1 at LRP. Fantastic experience.
And that's good enough for me. - GA
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Posted by: SirAndy Jan 20 2025, 12:43 PM
It's got a DTM fan ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_flat-twelve_engine
Posted by: carr914 Jan 20 2025, 09:20 PM
My version of that car didn't set me back that much.
I do have some personal experience with the 917 but not as an adult but as a 13 year old kid.
In 1970 my parents and I camped at Watkins Glen. I knew nothing about the race track or races. There were posters everywhere for the CanAm race that weekend. I begged my dad that I wanted to go so we went to the ticket office and when the person said $25/ticket, my dad was already out the door. We're not going.
That week during a rainstorm, my parents watched a young couple try to set up their tent. Didn't take long for my mom to tell my dad we have to help them. I grabbed my shovel and off we went to help them get set up.
On the morning of the CanAm race, the guy came over to thank my dad for helping saying his father-in-law was sick and couldn't make it. So he gave us 2 tickets. It was fantastic.
At that time after races, people would storm the track and the pits. I was able to stand right beside the 917s in the pits afterwards. Beautiful cars and etched in my memory.
We made the 6-hour endurance and CanAm races at the Glen in '71 and '72.
I was there!
Posted by: carr914 Jan 22 2025, 07:14 AM
It wasn't a good week at Mecom
Posted by: GregAmy Jan 22 2025, 08:32 AM
It wasn't a good week at Mecom
So they lifted a gawd-knows-how-heavy car on a four-post without the legs being bolted to the floor?? Or even cross-braced?
Brilliant.
They should be DAMNED glad it didn't kill someone.
Posted by: URY914 Jan 22 2025, 06:33 PM
Surprised it wasn't a Vette.
Posted by: nivekdodge Jan 23 2025, 04:21 PM
Foreman of crew on Fri at lunch: "it's only a display, set it up real quick and let's get back before quit."
His boss the next morning, "Find a car we can put on the lift"
Posted by: justme Jan 28 2025, 10:06 PM
I guess Jerry didn't want to sell the 917.
I was with him the day he bought it
I love that you capture so much history with the lense of your eye.
What an amazing journey.
Thanks and please, don't stop!
Posted by: VaccaRabite Feb 3 2025, 07:03 AM
You really don't get a feel for those cars through pictures.
They are LOW. They seem large in the movie LeMans but in person its such a different story. They look like they are going 100 mph just sitting on the ground.
I've been lucky to see a couple of them now, and they are just breathtaking cars.
Zach
Posted by: ctc911ctc Feb 3 2025, 07:44 AM
As a youngster I would near daily walk by Vasek in Hermosa Beach and drool over the 917. White, a bit dirty - show room was grimy and real. Sometimes the cars tires would be flat......
Where is the Vasek 917 these days?
Posted by: JmuRiz Feb 3 2025, 09:47 PM
You really don't get a feel for those cars through pictures.
They are LOW. They seem large in the movie LeMans but in person its such a different story. They look like they are going 100 mph just sitting on the ground.
I've been lucky to see a couple of them now, and they are just breathtaking cars.
Zach
And we all thought our 914s were low and small.
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Posted by: ClayPerrine Feb 4 2025, 07:04 AM
I want enough "f*ck you" money to be able to buy this 917 for multiple reasons.
1. I think Seinfeld is an overrated, egotistic jerk. (Your opinion may vary from mine.)
2. I want to take it to Rennsport or a 914 event just to park it next to Marty's GT.
3. I want to take it to a PCA DE just to watch the fist fight over who gets to be my instructor.
I would love to have the original plans for a 917, including the engine. The spend the money to reproduce one. But do things like CNC machined engine parts. The 917 basically used 2.2L 911 S pistons and cylinders. I want to take a 917 engine and build it out with LN Engineering 4.0L pistons and cylinders. Then use the cam profile from a 3.6 full race engine like a 993 RS. Put that in the 12 cylinder case, and install modern EFI with coil on plug, variable intake runner length and all the high performance, go fast goodies. Build a carbon fiber monocoque chassis that looks like a factory 917 chassis and install huge carbon fiber racing brakes, abs, active suspension, and everything that makes a modern endurance race car. Tie the engine to a modern paddle shifted gearbox.
Introducing the 917 EVO. Paint it in the Gulf 917 colors. Make it fully street legal and register it in Texas so I can drive it on tours and the Tail of the Dragon.
Then get the FIA to let it run at LeMans in Garage 56 or IMSA for the 24 Hours of Daytona. Imagine the sound of an AIR COOLED 8 LITER 917 ENGINE at full song on the banking of Daytona...... that would be a Porsche lovers wet dream.
Betty always says I would be extremely dangerous if I had "f*ck you" money.
Posted by: Superhawk996 Feb 4 2025, 10:19 AM
Betty always says I would be extremely dangerous if I had "f*ck you" money.
You’re probably already dangerous enough as is . . . 4.0L and all.
Posted by: wonkipop Feb 5 2025, 03:45 AM
I want enough "f*ck you" money to be able to buy this 917 for multiple reasons.
1. I think Seinfeld is an overrated, egotistic jerk. (Your opinion may vary from mine.)
2. I want to take it to Rennsport or a 914 event just to park it next to Marty's GT.
3. I want to take it to a PCA DE just to watch the fist fight over who gets to be my instructor.
I would love to have the original plans for a 917, including the engine. The spend the money to reproduce one. But do things like CNC machined engine parts. The 917 basically used 2.2L 911 S pistons and cylinders. I want to take a 917 engine and build it out with LN Engineering 4.0L pistons and cylinders. Then use the cam profile from a 3.6 full race engine like a 993 RS. Put that in the 12 cylinder case, and install modern EFI with coil on plug, variable intake runner length and all the high performance, go fast goodies. Build a carbon fiber monocoque chassis that looks like a factory 917 chassis and install huge carbon fiber racing brakes, abs, active suspension, and everything that makes a modern endurance race car. Tie the engine to a modern paddle shifted gearbox.
Introducing the 917 EVO. Paint it in the Gulf 917 colors. Make it fully street legal and register it in Texas so I can drive it on tours and the Tail of the Dragon.
Then get the FIA to let it run at LeMans in Garage 56 or IMSA for the 24 Hours of Daytona. Imagine the sound of an AIR COOLED 8 LITER 917 ENGINE at full song on the banking of Daytona...... that would be a Porsche lovers wet dream.
Betty always says I would be extremely dangerous if I had "f*ck you" money.
its a good thing no one has ever given me F U Money.
i would go in a contest with you to see who is the most insane.
i think the truth is i have my 914 because its from the same genius mind that gave us all the 917. pure automotive evil......
the 917 is really quite a pinnacle.
mind you. i don't mind a GT 40 either in the top of the mountain stakes.
henry ford and his mad offspring children.
and porsche with his. they weren't all great children and grand children but the nut cases popped out in the offspring.
Posted by: ClayPerrine Feb 5 2025, 07:19 AM
Betty always says I would be extremely dangerous if I had "f*ck you" money.
You’re probably already dangerous enough as is . . . 4.0L and all.
Things I live by......
There is no replacement for displacement.
There is never enough horsepower.
Enjoy it now. You can't take it with you.
Dream big.
Do what you love.
Most important... find someone who compliments your crazy and keep her close.
Posted by: technicalninja Feb 5 2025, 02:39 PM
I would love to have the original plans for a 917, including the engine. The spend the money to reproduce one. But do things like CNC machined engine parts. The 917 basically used 2.2L 911 S pistons and cylinders. I want to take a 917 engine and build it out with LN Engineering 4.0L pistons and cylinders. Then use the cam profile from a 3.6 full race engine like a 993 RS. Put that in the 12 cylinder case, and install modern EFI with coil on plug, variable intake runner length and all the high performance, go fast goodies. Build a carbon fiber monocoque chassis that looks like a factory 917 chassis and install huge carbon fiber racing brakes, abs, active suspension, and everything that makes a modern endurance race car. Tie the engine to a modern paddle shifted gearbox.
Introducing the 917 EVO. Paint it in the Gulf 917 colors. Make it fully street legal and register it in Texas so I can drive it on tours and the Tail of the Dragon.
Then get the FIA to let it run at LeMans in Garage 56 or IMSA for the 24 Hours of Daytona. Imagine the sound of an AIR COOLED 8 LITER 917 ENGINE at full song on the banking of Daytona...... that would be a Porsche lovers wet dream.
Betty always says I would be extremely dangerous if I had "f*ck you" money.
You're a bit crazier than me...
Still, the above is the ULTIMATE Porsche dream!
Even Seinfeld would drool!
Posted by: technicalninja Feb 5 2025, 02:42 PM
Things I live by......
There is no replacement for displacement.
There is never enough horsepower.
Enjoy it now. You can't take it with you.
Dream big.
Do what you love.
Most important... find someone who compliments your crazy and keep her close.
Best post I've EVER seen on an automotive forum, any of them!
Posted by: ClayPerrine Feb 5 2025, 03:19 PM
I would love to have the original plans for a 917, including the engine. The spend the money to reproduce one. But do things like CNC machined engine parts. The 917 basically used 2.2L 911 S pistons and cylinders. I want to take a 917 engine and build it out with LN Engineering 4.0L pistons and cylinders. Then use the cam profile from a 3.6 full race engine like a 993 RS. Put that in the 12 cylinder case, and install modern EFI with coil on plug, variable intake runner length and all the high performance, go fast goodies. Build a carbon fiber monocoque chassis that looks like a factory 917 chassis and install huge carbon fiber racing brakes, abs, active suspension, and everything that makes a modern endurance race car. Tie the engine to a modern paddle shifted gearbox.
Introducing the 917 EVO. Paint it in the Gulf 917 colors. Make it fully street legal and register it in Texas so I can drive it on tours and the Tail of the Dragon.
Then get the FIA to let it run at LeMans in Garage 56 or IMSA for the 24 Hours of Daytona. Imagine the sound of an AIR COOLED 8 LITER 917 ENGINE at full song on the banking of Daytona...... that would be a Porsche lovers wet dream.
Betty always says I would be extremely dangerous if I had "f*ck you" money.
You're a bit crazier than me...
Still, the above is the ULTIMATE Porsche dream!
Even Seinfeld would drool!
I can get stupider.... Add twin turbos to it.
Posted by: 930cabman Feb 5 2025, 03:33 PM
I want enough "f*ck you" money to be able to buy this 917 for multiple reasons.
1. I think Seinfeld is an overrated, egotistic jerk. (Your opinion may vary from mine.)
2. I want to take it to Rennsport or a 914 event just to park it next to Marty's GT.
3. I want to take it to a PCA DE just to watch the fist fight over who gets to be my instructor.
I would love to have the original plans for a 917, including the engine. The spend the money to reproduce one. But do things like CNC machined engine parts. The 917 basically used 2.2L 911 S pistons and cylinders. I want to take a 917 engine and build it out with LN Engineering 4.0L pistons and cylinders. Then use the cam profile from a 3.6 full race engine like a 993 RS. Put that in the 12 cylinder case, and install modern EFI with coil on plug, variable intake runner length and all the high performance, go fast goodies. Build a carbon fiber monocoque chassis that looks like a factory 917 chassis and install huge carbon fiber racing brakes, abs, active suspension, and everything that makes a modern endurance race car. Tie the engine to a modern paddle shifted gearbox.
Introducing the 917 EVO. Paint it in the Gulf 917 colors. Make it fully street legal and register it in Texas so I can drive it on tours and the Tail of the Dragon.
Then get the FIA to let it run at LeMans in Garage 56 or IMSA for the 24 Hours of Daytona. Imagine the sound of an AIR COOLED 8 LITER 917 ENGINE at full song on the banking of Daytona...... that would be a Porsche lovers wet dream.
Betty always says I would be extremely dangerous if I had "f*ck you" money.
how fast do you want to go?
thought you already had a 4 liter monster?
Posted by: ClayPerrine Feb 5 2025, 03:57 PM
I want enough "f*ck you" money to be able to buy this 917 for multiple reasons.
1. I think Seinfeld is an overrated, egotistic jerk. (Your opinion may vary from mine.)
2. I want to take it to Rennsport or a 914 event just to park it next to Marty's GT.
3. I want to take it to a PCA DE just to watch the fist fight over who gets to be my instructor.
I would love to have the original plans for a 917, including the engine. The spend the money to reproduce one. But do things like CNC machined engine parts. The 917 basically used 2.2L 911 S pistons and cylinders. I want to take a 917 engine and build it out with LN Engineering 4.0L pistons and cylinders. Then use the cam profile from a 3.6 full race engine like a 993 RS. Put that in the 12 cylinder case, and install modern EFI with coil on plug, variable intake runner length and all the high performance, go fast goodies. Build a carbon fiber monocoque chassis that looks like a factory 917 chassis and install huge carbon fiber racing brakes, abs, active suspension, and everything that makes a modern endurance race car. Tie the engine to a modern paddle shifted gearbox.
Introducing the 917 EVO. Paint it in the Gulf 917 colors. Make it fully street legal and register it in Texas so I can drive it on tours and the Tail of the Dragon.
Then get the FIA to let it run at LeMans in Garage 56 or IMSA for the 24 Hours of Daytona. Imagine the sound of an AIR COOLED 8 LITER 917 ENGINE at full song on the banking of Daytona...... that would be a Porsche lovers wet dream.
Betty always says I would be extremely dangerous if I had "f*ck you" money.
how fast do you want to go?
thought you already had a 4 liter monster?
With more money I could have used a 993 82.4mm stroker crank and custom rods to get 4.4L out of a 964/993 motor. Then I would have the same displacement as the early 917s, but half the cylinders.
And that is the absolute limit of how big you can go with a 964/993 motor. And I don't think I would have gained that much considering the cost.
Posted by: Betty Feb 5 2025, 05:13 PM
Betty always says I would be extremely dangerous if I had "f*ck you" money.
You’re probably already dangerous enough as is . . . 4.0L and all.
Posted by: Betty Feb 5 2025, 05:15 PM
I can get stupider.... Add twin turbos to it.
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I said no to the Super Charger he found and wanted to buy...
Posted by: mepstein Feb 5 2025, 07:36 PM
[quote name='Betty' date='Feb 5 2025, 06:15 PM' post='3190479']
I can get stupider.... Add twin turbos to it.
[/quote]
I said no to the Super Charger he found and wanted to buy...
[/quote]
Wasn't going to fit in the 914 anyway. It sticks out enough on a 911 that you have to run a turbo tail to cover it.
Posted by: mgp4591 Feb 6 2025, 09:40 PM
Betty always says I would be extremely dangerous if I had "f*ck you" money.
You’re probably already dangerous enough as is . . . 4.0L and all.
Things I live by......
There is no replacement for displacement.
There is never enough horsepower.
Enjoy it now. You can't take it with you.
Dream big.
Do what you love.
Most important... find someone who compliments your crazy and keep her close.
That's a fu##ing Hallmark Valentines card if I've ever heard one...
Posted by: ClayPerrine Feb 7 2025, 01:12 PM
[quote name='mepstein' date='Feb 5 2025, 07:36 PM' post='3190506']
[quote name='Betty' date='Feb 5 2025, 06:15 PM' post='3190479']
I can get stupider.... Add twin turbos to it.
[/quote]
I said no to the Super Charger he found and wanted to buy...
[/quote]
Wasn't going to fit in the 914 anyway. It sticks out enough on a 911 that you have to run a turbo tail to cover it.
[/quote]
Do you REALLY think that would have stopped me? I made a Cayman 6 speed fit in a 914, and I think that would have been easier.
Posted by: carr914 Feb 10 2025, 08:19 AM
I want enough "f*ck you" money to be able to buy this 917 for multiple reasons.
1. I think Seinfeld is an overrated, egotistic jerk. (Your opinion may vary from mine.)
2. I want to take it to Rennsport or a 914 event just to park it next to Marty's GT.
3. I want to take it to a PCA DE just to watch the fist fight over who gets to be my instructor.
I would love to have the original plans for a 917, including the engine. The spend the money to reproduce one. But do things like CNC machined engine parts. The 917 basically used 2.2L 911 S pistons and cylinders. I want to take a 917 engine and build it out with LN Engineering 4.0L pistons and cylinders. Then use the cam profile from a 3.6 full race engine like a 993 RS. Put that in the 12 cylinder case, and install modern EFI with coil on plug, variable intake runner length and all the high performance, go fast goodies. Build a carbon fiber monocoque chassis that looks like a factory 917 chassis and install huge carbon fiber racing brakes, abs, active suspension, and everything that makes a modern endurance race car. Tie the engine to a modern paddle shifted gearbox.
Introducing the 917 EVO. Paint it in the Gulf 917 colors. Make it fully street legal and register it in Texas so I can drive it on tours and the Tail of the Dragon.
Then get the FIA to let it run at LeMans in Garage 56 or IMSA for the 24 Hours of Daytona. Imagine the sound of an AIR COOLED 8 LITER 917 ENGINE at full song on the banking of Daytona...... that would be a Porsche lovers wet dream.
Betty always says I would be extremely dangerous if I had "f*ck you" money.
Because I don't have F You money, these are the only 917s I can afford ( the Pink Pig was still expensive)
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