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Posted by: GeorgeKopf Jun 3 2025, 08:06 AM

I'm assembling my horn pad and can't find a place to connect the brown ground wire from the contact ring. Do I have the wrong base plate?
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And the PET Parts List for a 1974 doesn't show the contact pin:Attached Image

Thanks.

George

Posted by: Chad911sc Jun 3 2025, 09:06 AM

I don’t have a factory steering wheel, so not sure about the original design, but you could just crimp a metal loop end piece on your ground wire and slide one of the three bolts through it. That will give you the same result easily.

Posted by: Graydingo Jun 3 2025, 09:40 AM

(could be wrong on this, but basing this off 911 stock setup)

The black wire from the fuse panel makes the horn sound when it's grounded. Unlike an aftermarket MOMO you don't use a second wire because the stock horn button is a pad that is spring loaded. When you depress the horn pad, it contacts the metal ring and grounds it. The horn wire connects to the pad, then the pad touches the metal of the column grounding it and sounding the horn.

Posted by: Chad911sc Jun 3 2025, 11:42 AM

Ah makes sense. I have a Momo and mine does have two wires. Never seen the stock set up in the car, but that sounds right.

Posted by: ClayPerrine Jun 3 2025, 02:23 PM

70-71 fours had a contact wiper pin like a 914-6. So there was no wire. Later fours got a different setup with the wire. So early horn rings didn't have a place to attach a wire.

Early four setup... see item 11

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Late 4 setup... see item 4

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The late setup matched the VW production at the time.

Posted by: GeorgeKopf Jun 3 2025, 08:37 PM

QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Jun 3 2025, 02:23 PM) *

early horn rings didn't have a place to attach a wire.



Ahhh. So, I must have an early horn ring. That explains everything.

I'm going to try what Chad911sc suggested and attach the ground to one of the three bolts.

Thank you everybody!

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George


Posted by: GeorgeKopf Jun 8 2025, 07:30 PM

Epilog,

It turns out that the early horn base is insulated from the three bolts by little plastic spacers. So, I used my Dremel tool to cut a tab to fit a standard spade terminal.

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The horn now works great. Thank you to everybody!


George

Posted by: Steve Jun 9 2025, 12:03 PM

Here’s a picture of my stock 1975 wheel. It has a spade on one of the screws.
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Posted by: ClayPerrine Jun 10 2025, 05:21 AM

QUOTE(Steve @ Jun 9 2025, 01:03 PM) *

Here’s a picture of my stock 1975 wheel. It has a spade on one of the screws.
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That spade is mounted to the screw, not the horn ring. If you hook that to the horn wire, the horn is going to sound all the time.


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