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Posted by: neo914-6 Sep 2 2005, 02:03 AM

neo914 purpose: An exercise in creative design, to promote the enthusiasm for the 914 and introduce new ideas, designs, and components not previously installed on a 914…

"neo" translates to "New" in German thus "neo914-6"

What would a 914-6 look like today? Imagine the character of the 914 we all “grew” to love retained in a modern version…

Design sketched 8/05:


Car shown at SEMA 11/06:


Original 914 design:



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Posted by: neo914-6 Sep 2 2005, 02:04 AM

Let’s start with a great race prepared 914, with track success…
Bill’s and Doris’ car

Posted by: neo914-6 Sep 2 2005, 02:05 AM

Add metal hand shaped flares by Metalshaper John Kelly and 18" diameter wheels.
See more details of http://www.allshops.org/cgi-bin/community/communityalbums.cgi?action=openalbum&albumid=9980138836765

Posted by: neo914-6 Sep 2 2005, 02:10 AM

Drivetrain candidates were: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=23537&hl=boxster+tranny, http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=23399&hl=, and even http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=23480&hl=mini. I already did a domestic V8 conversion and it truly wouldn't fit this theme. Had my bid for a http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=22541&hl= been high enough, it would have had a great “cool” factor ala Rick Ollah's 928 "alien"! It would have also added at least a year in making it and the 4WD work...

I decided to maintain plausible factory constraints: Use Porsche / Audi / VW drive train parts as in the Cayenne's example:

If this engine becomes "affordable" I'll see if it fits in the Neo914-6.

Why not the Boxster or 996 engines? A local member and friend is doing a Boxster conversion with new rear suspension which requires fabrication beyond my abilities and schedule. He virtually cut out the whole rear trunk and suspension to make it fit. I was very close to chosing the http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=17664&hl=audi+turbo but another local club member, Sonu had already installed one. I chose the Audi 2.7L V6 twin turbo which http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=32137&st



Is this a Ship of Theseus?

Posted by: neo914-6 Sep 2 2005, 02:16 AM

This is what I chose to replace the classic Fuchs:
Techno 996 Wheels, they have lines similar to the unique 914 targa. In fact I will reform the targa trim to match a bit more…As much as I love the Boxster and Turbo twists, I think the "softness" of the wheel wasn't appropriate to this design.

Tech: 18" SportTechno One-piece alloy wheel featuring powerful yet lightweight hollow-spoke design technology giving a weight reduction of 25 % over conventional wheels. Hollow aluminum alloy spokes are inseparably fused to the rim using a patented friction welding process. Employs new surface treatment technology for even better looking wheels.


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Posted by: neo914-6 Sep 2 2005, 02:17 AM

C U R R E N T S P E C I F I C A T I O N S:
Audi 2.7L V6 twin turbo engine, intercoolers, and ECU
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=32137&st
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=65799&st=0&gopid=864316&#entry864316
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=37729&hl=braille
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=37181&hl=993
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=58193&hl=
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&showtopic=37568&view=findpost&p=487884
Pirelli Asymetrico tires 225/40 ZR 18
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=65047
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=61295
27mm Front Adjustable Smart Racing Anti-Roll Bar
23mm Front Torsion Bars
Shine needle bearings
914 Rear Vented Discs (5 lug)
Rebuilt and powdercoated trailing arms by Roaster fan (Jim)
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=42836&hl=and pending
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=72075&hl=
18"x11" 996 SportTechno wheels
Pirelli Asymetrico tires 295/30 ZR 18
Rear Bilstein Struts/ Shocks
Adjustable rear spring perches
15mm Stock Anti-Roll Bar Rear
350lb/sqin Eibach Rear Coil Springs
911 19mm Master Cylinder
Cockpit Adjustable Brake Bias Valve
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=35441&hl=and
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=31560&st=0
Power steering - planned
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=37606&st=0#entry488392

Posted by: neo914-6 Sep 2 2005, 02:17 AM

D E S I G N F E A T U R E S:
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=35304&hl=and
Hella DE fog lamps mounted in the bumper
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=37706&st=40
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=37706&st=0#entry489521
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=35536&hl=
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=43612
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=43010&st=0
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=49982&hl=
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=35440&hl=seat , http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=49549 , http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=58193&hl=
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=35440&hl=seat
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=36961&hl=spare+wheel
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=36571&hl=neo914 , 993 filler
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&showtopic=37568&view=findpost&p=487883
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&showtopic=63183&view=findpost&p=805899
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=45422&hl=soft+top
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&showtopic=37568&view=findpost&p=814749
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=40013&st=0#entry519792
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=46193
Auto diming and map light rear view mirror
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=64491

Posted by: neo914-6 Sep 2 2005, 02:33 AM

B O D Y D E S I G N:

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=26458&hl=flare
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=33752&st=0
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=41597&st=0&#entry541960
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=60936&st=0&gopid=777430&#entry777430
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=43010&st=0
Targa trim
Top
Tail lamps
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=43612&hl=spoiler
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=50110
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=40282&st=0#entry523355

Posted by: scotty b Sep 3 2005, 06:21 AM

Me likes sketch! Now, how do I get rid of you and take over???

Posted by: neo914-6 Sep 3 2005, 11:37 AM

QUOTE (scotty b @ Sep 3 2005, 04:21 AM)

Me likes sketch! Now, how do I get rid of you and take over???

I revealed 90% of the details so go for it!

Posted by: Andyrew Sep 3 2005, 12:42 PM

Wowsers!!! Simply amazing.

I love the design, everything flows well.

I must say I love the rocker pannels. Do you plan on building them yourself? That design is awesome and I'd love to be able to make some for myself.

BTW.
Tomorrow im dedicating the day to your flares. I should get the pass side done, and depending on how I like the drivers side, possibly that one as well.

Andrew

Posted by: Brent Sep 3 2005, 01:10 PM

Felix,

It looks as if the front bumper is a cross between a 916 and early GT style chrome one. Is this your insperation? Looks great.
-B

Posted by: neo914-6 Sep 3 2005, 02:35 PM

QUOTE (Brent @ Sep 3 2005, 11:10 AM)

Felix, It looks as if the front bumper is a cross between a 916 and early GT style chrome one. Is this your insperation? Looks great. -B

Brent, the intent is:
-allow for some form development that continues from the hood and fenders
-eliminate the rubber top dictated by the 70's DOT or TUV regs. Did they really think it would soften the harm to a person's limbs?
-retain some metal chrome finish so it is not just another plastic cap and give a sense of strength and retro-styling
-give some importance to the radiator intakes "bezel"
-retain the stock valance, I like the torsion bar "bumps"
-continue with a radius on the bottom edge of the car with the rockers to give more curvature to the body, an air dam or side skirts would have eliminated this.

IMHO

Happy bday "Seve"! just dropped my daughter off at a bday...

Posted by: Travis Neff Sep 3 2005, 02:41 PM

Felix, the design in your drawing looks great, looks powerful and purposeful! Just plain bad ass!

Posted by: neo914-6 Sep 3 2005, 02:51 PM

QUOTE (Andyrew @ Sep 3 2005, 10:42 AM)

Wowsers!!! Simply amazing. I love the design, everything flows well. I must say I love the rocker pannels. Do you plan on building them yourself? That design is awesome and I'd love to be able to make some for myself. BTW. Tomorrow im dedicating the day to your flares.  I should get the pass side done, and depending on how I like the drivers side, possibly that one as well. Andrew

Thanks Andrew I'm looking forward to them, Sept 24 is coming fast...

The radius will be done by a sheet metal HVAC shop, the transitions to the flares will be a challenge. I will mock it up in urethane and probably take it to a metalshaper. I also need to position the intercoolers to see if they will get enough airflow.

The rear features will be trick too, stay tuned...

Posted by: goose2 Sep 3 2005, 03:24 PM

great stuff Felix...keep it coming please

Posted by: jonwatts Sep 3 2005, 04:45 PM

Kewl stuff.

Hey speaking of fenders, I still have one for you from McMark. Need it anytime soon?

Jon

Posted by: campbellcj Sep 3 2005, 07:59 PM

WOW, what a project! I will follow it closely as I've got the S4 with the 2.7T and can't wait to see/hear what that is like in a 914.

One technicality on your parts list though - you won't be able to use the "S" calipers with the 911T struts. Actually if it were me, I'd probably go to bigger brakes like 930 or Boxster monoblocks or something. If you chip the ECU the car will be a torque monster and stopping ability=good.

Keep us posted as the thoughts flow!

Posted by: Brent Sep 3 2005, 10:46 PM

Felix, very sweet. The front bumper looks like it will be amazing! As well as the rest of the car. You are our Foose buddy...keep it going!

(ps. Waiting for the Avatar to change with Seve's pic in it. Will keep his pic there for this month. He said thanks for the Bday wishes. We just got back from the Jungle in Saratoga. He is always over my shoulder reading the forum with me.)
-B

Posted by: neo914-6 Sep 4 2005, 10:31 AM

I believe they are currently 911, are the s-calipers spaced differently? Brake choices are still open but I have this nice set of rebuilt s-calipers...

Stock ECU will do for now but when it gets to that purchase point I will consider stand-alone http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?act=ST&f=2&t=24331&hl=.

Thanks!

Posted by: campbellcj Sep 4 2005, 12:12 PM

The 911T struts have 3" caliper bolt spacing (same as the 914) and the S calipers have 3.5" mounting hole spacing. If you can find struts from a '69 911S (or an E with the S front-end) thru an '89 Carrera those would fit the S calipers.

Posted by: yahthatsright Sep 23 2005, 05:24 AM

How much $ might it cost to have flares like your done?

Posted by: neo914-6 Sep 23 2005, 11:04 AM

If you were to do the work it would be minimal. You could buy John Kelly's DVD @ www.ghiaspecialties.com, a small investment in metal working tools, alot of time, and noise tolerant neighbors. This is for modifying the existing fenders.

Or you can find a automotive metalshaper and get quotes to roll and form new metal. I don't know of any standard to rates and how much time it will take for each metalshaper to do custom work. I believe John spent over 100 hours work within ~5 months.

Posted by: neo914-6 Nov 11 2005, 01:00 AM

Project schedule:

Many of the sub-projects run in parallel but these are target dates:

Nov 05 - lights mounting, refit rear flares, weld and widen front flares, mod front hood, mount pedal cluster & GT3 seat @ Original Customs
Dec 05 - engine, trans, & shifter mounted @ TC Design
Jan 05 - exhaust, instruments & climate control system
Feb 06 - mount radiators, plumbing, single arm wiper
Mar 06 - single piece windows, interior @?
April 06 - mold bumpers and fabricate rockers
May 06 - HID headlights, shorten tail lights, retractible spoiler
June 06 - disassemble, suspension
July 06 - final body prep, paint @ Altissimo
Aug 06 - re-assembly, shake down
Sept 06 - details, cosmetics
Oct 06 - marketing
Nov 06 - SEMA

Posted by: jonwatts Nov 11 2005, 01:21 AM

Now multiply that by two.

Posted by: neo914-6 Nov 11 2005, 01:35 AM

It has a date next Nov so it WILL be done. Mark is finishing up much of the metal work this month and then it's off to Tony's. He needs an excuse to shove your car out in the rain


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Posted by: jonwatts Nov 11 2005, 01:38 AM

QUOTE (neo914-6 @ Nov 10 2005, 11:35 PM)

He needs an excuse to shove your car out in the rain

Apparently yes.

I shouldn't give you a hard time for planning, planning is good. It's hard, and imperfect, but necessary.

Posted by: neo914-6 Nov 19 2005, 11:33 PM

QUOTE (jonwatts @ Nov 10 2005, 11:38 PM)

I shouldn't give you a hard time for planning, planning is good. It's hard, and imperfect, but necessary.

It's cliche but so true: If you fail to plan then you plan to fail...

I went to the DMV to get my personalized plates activated and transfer registration so the DMV lady tells me it was never applied for non-operation, oh and by the way it also needs smog certification. Thanks alot Bill!

I tell her it's an exempt 1974! She says "oh, you're right." 5 minutes later she prints out and gives me the registration as if it were a running car. Thanks alot Bill!

"All" I need now is to get her running...

Posted by: neo914-6 Nov 19 2005, 11:56 PM

Nice progress, thanks MarkD...


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Posted by: sj914 Nov 20 2005, 02:24 AM

Felix,
Lookin good.

Posted by: nine14cats Nov 20 2005, 03:09 AM

Felix, your welcome!....

I shoulda never sold that car....

Bill P.

Posted by: marks914 Nov 20 2005, 08:22 AM

Heres an early concept sketch for my car...
Maybe I will do some at lunch tomorrow

Mark


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Posted by: marks914 Nov 21 2005, 07:07 PM

heres a quickie...



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Posted by: McMark Nov 21 2005, 07:41 PM

I like that one.

Posted by: goose2 Nov 21 2005, 07:44 PM

Posted by: Gint Nov 21 2005, 09:13 PM

Now that's talent!

Posted by: degreeoff Nov 26 2005, 07:11 PM

I would love to know the budget for this project. Hell I am starring 12k in the face for a six with FG parts and paint (all done by yours truly).

Also where did you aquire the HID's

lastly SWEET design ( the 1st sketch )

Josh

Keep em running........

Posted by: neo914-6 Nov 26 2005, 11:00 PM

QUOTE (degreeoff @ Nov 26 2005, 05:11 PM)

I would love to know the budget for this project. Hell I am starring 12k in the face for a six with FG parts and paint (all done by yours truly). Also where did you aquire the HID's lastly SWEET design ( the 1st sketch ) Josh Keep em running........

All I can say is my daughter better get a full scholarship when the time comes.

The HID's are Hella DEs, many sources

Thanks, I will have more sketches soon...

Posted by: jonwatts Nov 27 2005, 01:00 AM

QUOTE (neo914-6 @ Nov 19 2005, 09:33 PM)

I tell her it's an exempt 1974!  She says "oh, you're right."  5 minutes later she prints out and gives me the registration as if it were a running car.  Thanks alot Bill!  :D

Ima confused. Did you have to pay the back-registration because it was never non-oped? Or did you skate around that because of the smog exemption? (one isn't related to the other)


marks914, how'd you do your sketches? Airbrush? Software? I can't tell. Either way...

Posted by: neo914-6 Nov 28 2005, 06:32 PM

QUOTE (jonwatts @ Nov 26 2005, 11:00 PM)

QUOTE (neo914-6 @ Nov 19 2005, 09:33 PM) I tell her it's an exempt 1974!  She says "oh, you're right."  5 minutes later she prints out and gives me the registration as if it were a running car.  Thanks alot Bill!  :D     Ima confused. Did you have to pay the back-registration because it was never non-oped? Or did you skate around that because of the smog exemption? (one isn't related to the other) marks914, how'd you do your sketches? Airbrush? Software? I can't tell. Either way...

Jon,

Initially she wouldn't give me registration until I produced a smog cert which was incorrect. Not having it non-op status turned out to be a blessing. Having current registration takes a burden off my shoulders...

Mark's technique:

QUOTE

I mostly use a pencil or a ballpoint pen to do a line sketch.  Then I will scan it into photoshop or studio paint.  I rarely use markers, they just dry up, even AD markers. I taught myself to sketch in photoshop, its pretty much like using paper.  When I was in school I bought an Aiptek tablet and stylus, I think they are about $150 for a 10x14.  It worked great, just like at work. Most guys use SID, which is an extension of the Alias Autostudio program, it is replacing studiopaint.

When is your Suby 914 going to be running?

Posted by: neo914-6 Dec 14 2005, 12:10 AM

Updated schedule:
Nov/Dec 05 - refit rear flares, weld and flare fenders, remove wheel well lip, fill side marker holes, mount GT3 seat, remove roll cage, fix chassis cracks, install Engman kit by Original Customs
Jan 05 - mount engine, trans, & cable shifter, install cooling lines @ TC Design, fab exhaust, fab door, fit single piece windows, design interior, HID headlights, shorten tail lights, retractible spoiler
Feb 06 - mount radiators, ducting, and plumbing
Mar 06 - reupholster panels @ ?
April 06 - mold bumpers and fabricate rockers
May 06 - final body prep, paint @ ?
June 06 - re-assembly, seals
July 06 - details, cosmetics
Aug 06 - marketing
Sept 06 - performance options
Oct 06 - buffer
Nov 06 - SEMA

I found out an old friend has a 2000 Audi A6 who gave me some great info on the http://www.robsaudiworld.com/Audi_S4_engine_english.pdf. This means I have access to a running car for reference or

Given the scope of the project, I may postpone incorporating the single wiper and maybe the Audi dash and climate system. These can wait until after the engine is running and the body is painted.

Paint is going to cost alot more than expected and I really hate looking at alternatives for a key part of the aesthetics. It won't be a "show" car per se but it will be at SEMA, maybe other shows, and likely several magazines. I'm considering selling my V8 914 to fund it but the market for my Chalon and V8 is extremely limited. It outlasted all my "cool" cars and was my first 80's "neo914"...

Posted by: Andyrew Dec 14 2005, 01:20 AM

Is the color of the car a secret??

I would like to know what the new 914 color would be...

"pink is the new purple"....?

Andrew

I wish I was skilled enough to tackle the paint for you.. But unfortunately... One term in auto body painting 1 probably aint gona cut it.. Even if I got an 'A'.. lol

Posted by: neo914-6 Dec 14 2005, 01:32 AM

QUOTE (Andyrew @ Dec 13 2005, 11:20 PM)

Is the color of the car a secret?? I would like to know what the new 914 color would be...  :D "pink is the new purple"....?  ;) Andrew I wish I was skilled enough to tackle the paint for you.. But unfortunately... One term in auto body painting 1 probably aint gona cut it.. Even if I got an 'A'.. lol

It will likely be a Porsche Seal Grey. I want it to highlight the surfaces. I hate to admit I like the new Infinity grey too...

I painted a few cars in my teens but costs of materials and shop rates are not what they used to be. You get what you pay for and now that I've invested so much in the car I "can't" cheap out on the paint...

Posted by: Andyrew Dec 14 2005, 01:42 AM

I hear you...

I was going to go with the factory single stage phoenix.. but I now think that a dual stage would be stronger and look nicer.

Posted by: neo914-6 Dec 26 2005, 10:50 PM

Mueller will transport the car from Marks Napa shop to Tony Coliccllio's TC Design in Milpitas this Wednesday.

It is far from being ready for paint but here's a view of what it will or should look like...


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Posted by: trekkor Dec 26 2005, 11:20 PM

you really should have Brandon paint the car...


KT

Posted by: neo914-6 Dec 26 2005, 11:56 PM

QUOTE (trekkor @ Dec 26 2005, 09:20 PM)

you really should have Brandon paint the car... KT

I prefer a club member or someone referred by a club member. When the time comes I'll compare several shops for cost vs. technical experience vs. 914 experience only because it is a large sum of $ (largest single cost of this project)

Have you priced a "good" paint job recently?

Posted by: Andyrew Dec 27 2005, 03:38 AM

Yup... best guy in town quoted me 5k to do everything 3 years ago...

He said he would shoot it for 800... and that was with hook ups...



Main reason for me to take the painting class was to tell if I could paint my car myself sucessfully

Posted by: neo914-6 Dec 28 2005, 11:55 PM

Mike the Man Mueller delivered neo914-6 from Mark's http://www.paintandmetal.com/ in Napa to Tony's http://www.tcdesignfab.com/ in Milpitas for engine mount fabrication.


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Posted by: neo914-6 Dec 29 2005, 12:00 AM

Mark did a fantastic job with the custom metal work. He welded on new front fenders and formed them ala John Kelly on-car technique. He and butt welded John's "big A$$" rear flares, yes pun. He filled in all the DZUS , side marker and antenna holes. He extended the seal channel for the headlight delete hood. He also installed the Engman stiff kit and made the GT3 Recaro seat mount work.


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Posted by: neo914-6 Dec 29 2005, 12:13 AM

After Mike unloaded my car we loaded Jon's Watts car onto the trailer. Tony just finished fabricating Jon's Subaru mount. Jon picked up the Audi engine and Boxster transaxle at my place and dropped it off at Tony's before he picked up his car on the trailer. It worked so well it even seems like we planned this. Actually props go to Mike!

Thanks Jon!


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Posted by: jonwatts Dec 29 2005, 12:21 AM

Always willing to help a fellow club member with plans more insane than my own

Thanks to Mike and Felix and Tony and Joe for loading up my car for me, it made picking my car up very smooth. The only time I broke a sweat all day was rearranging crap in the garage.

The next time my car leaves the garage should be on its way to paint!

Posted by: neo914-6 Dec 29 2005, 12:25 AM

QUOTE (jonwatts @ Dec 28 2005, 10:21 PM)

The next time my car leaves the garage should be on its way to paint!

Did I hear "WCC06" in July???

It will leave under it's own power...

Posted by: jonwatts Dec 29 2005, 12:38 AM

No comment, this is your progress thread

Posted by: John Kelly Dec 29 2005, 08:21 AM

Nice to see so much progress Felix! Kudos to Mark for the flare work. I bet he spent at least as much time as I did on the rears, just welding and finishing them up. Looks like the fronts turned out nice! I'd like to see more pictures when you get the car back.

John www.ghiaspecialties.com

Posted by: neo914-6 Jan 6 2006, 10:05 PM

Went by a body shop where Tony , the owner of TAC had built old Mini's with MR2 drivetrains and a wide bodykit years before the new Mini came along. I found him after seeing his Mini featured in a car magazine and his shop happened to be a close to where I used to live. Unfortunately he only creates body parts for his own cars but hasn't the time to market them and doesn't do full paint. I showed him my project online and he "approved" of the Audi drivetrain owning a couple of TT's himself. Tony has a dino kit 914 and many other interesting cars. He refered me to his friend who is a bigger fan of Audis and owns a shop a few miles away. When I met Joao of Brasil Auto he was impressed that I chose the 2.7tt and began to show me "some" of his collection. Old Triumphs, Benzs, BMW 2002 tii, and a Renault Turbo 1! It was in basket form but all there, what a cool car. He said this prompted his friend Tony to build the MR2 turbo Mini's. He does metal work and restoration but only on his cars. Both these guys impress me with their passion for cars. Joao used to race an Audi quattro so he is another source of Audi parts and expertise that I will need for neo914-6...


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Posted by: neo914-6 Feb 9 2006, 02:33 AM

Feb update,

914 is still @ TC Design, not in a big hurry to get it with my V8 914 still in the garage.

Got the internal wiring harness from one of Joao's wrecked A4's. The dash panel and climate control connect but I'll need to verify all of it with the wiring diagrams that I need to load on my laptop.

Got a climate module from the same car but turns out the housing is cracked. Dealer wants $600 for that plastic box. Another from a 99 A4 "should" fit as part numbers match. Thanks Craigslist

Found out I need an Audi e-throttle pedal so I may not use the 993 pedal cluster or just cut off the integral throttle.

HID lights are coming along well, the signal LED is mounted above the main light. All I need to do is fabricate a bezel to finish the interior. A big surprise product will be available in a couple of months.

The single piece doors are progressing as well. I took out a couple inches in regulator rails for the shorter 914 door. I was concerned the forward triangle was going to be too tall based on matching the front to the rear channel angles. I was able to mount it far enough forward to have that nearly full side view. The Boxster/996 regulators apparently are strong enough not to utilize guide rails so mine should be stiffer. Anyone know where to get door motors for less than $250? I need a passenger side.

Rear spoiler is on Muellers list but I may have to finish it when his daughters coming home. I'm glad this is spurning new rear spoiler ideas...


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Posted by: neo914-6 Mar 25 2006, 02:24 AM

March update,

914 is still @ TC Design due to an unbelieveable delivery delay of the hydraulic table (to precisely position the drivetrain) which still allowed me to work on sub-projects. <!-- emo&;) --><!-- endemo -->

Jon and I will get our aluminum cooling pipes bent to fit in the chassis "ditch" by Tony once the car is up on the lift.

Awaiting another set of CD wiring diagrams as the originals didn't load on my laptop. <!-- emo&:screwy: --><!-- endemo -->

Got a second climate module w/o cracks.<!-- emo&:screwy: --><!-- endemo --> Can't do anything here until I get the car home and the dash off.

Still awaiting my Audi parts source for an e-throttle pedal. He sold me some down pipes that I will at least use the flanges and maybe pre-cats to the mufflers. Who needs O2? I do if I want my instrument cluster to work. I may bypass them so we'll see.

A little more progress on the single piece doors as I found a certain BMW door panel shape that will work with the GT3 seat. The first set I bought was crap, I couldn't believe the seller fiberglassed and painted the panels with what looked like house paint. They were cheap but the shipping was not. The second set is nice, very modern but won't use the door air bag. Also found a "cheap Boxster door motor I needed.

Rear spoiler is back on my list as Mueller decided to focus on his own projects including raising twins. What's up with that? <!-- emo&:confused: --><!-- endemo --> <!-- emo&:lol: --><!-- endemo -->

Bought a beautiful billet steering wheel extension from Bryan (datapace). He's on the road to a cool project. Now I'm going to have to incorporate some finished aluminum into the interior. <!-- emo&:idea: --><!-- endemo -->

Chris (Rockaria) may work on my SEMA signage to a format that can be metal etched by Patrick (ppickerell) for a plaque. I'm toying with the idea of using an old engine bar as a stand. <!-- emo&:rolleyes: --><!-- endemo -->

I gave my 2.7tt basket case engine to Sonu who will rebuild it for 500hp! Another 2.7tt 914 conversion! <!-- emo&:trophy: --><!-- endemo --> Unfortunately a grand down but worth it as he will be a major asset to finishing my project.

Sonu suggested I use the Audi transmission which adapts to the Boxster cable shifter very easily (same family). Additionally the CV flanges match the 911 CV's and it has an internal speed sensor. With the Boxster I need to design a toner wheel to make it work. Audi tranny is less "sexy" but may be stronger and I could actually save $, what a concept. <!-- emo&:lol: --><!-- endemo -->

I bought an Elise soft top on UK eBay. Not sure when I'll start this project but juggling is my MO. <!-- emo&:wacko: --><!-- endemo -->

Rolled metal rocker was a bust with my local metal shop. They didn't have a 40" roller so they formed it with steps. WTF <!-- emo&:confused: --><!-- endemo --> Search for a local metal shaper is still afoot...

Found a set of BMW (not again!) grilles that will work well in my bumper design for cooling intake. I'm very pleased with the shape and touch of chrome. Can't wait to mold these <!-- emo&:D --><!-- endemo -->

Posted by: Andyrew Mar 25 2006, 05:38 AM

Rolled metal rockers? Tell me about this...

Something I could make?

Posted by: neo914-6 Mar 30 2006, 02:21 AM

I found someone who can do some of my fiberglass work. Check out Mike's awesome V8 motorcycle.


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Posted by: Rand Mar 30 2006, 12:06 PM

My Hemi is faster! (Saw it at a car show)

Can't wait to see photos as your project comes to life. It's going to be one awesome car!!


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Posted by: neo914-6 Apr 8 2006, 12:59 PM

early April update,

TC Design finally received his hydraulic table and will work on the drivetrain mounts next week. Then Jon and I will get our aluminum cooling pipes bent.

Sent drawings to Marty for SEMA approval

I found a local engineer/fabricator who can to work on my rear spoiler.

Haven't received my Elise soft top from UK, anyone know how long Royal Mail takes?

Posted by: guiltless Apr 8 2006, 01:09 PM

Royal Mail usually is usually really quick. I usually on order CD's though so I can only speculate for a top.

Posted by: marks914 Apr 9 2006, 05:19 AM

QUOTE (neo914-6 @ Apr 8 2006, 10:59 AM)

early April update, TC Design finally received hydraulic table and will work on the drivetrain mounts next week. Then Jon and I will get our aluminum cooling pipes. Sent drawings to Marty for SEMA approval I found a local engineer/fabricator who can to work on my rear spoiler. Haven't received my Elise soft top from UK, anyone know how long Royal Mail takes?

Hey Felix,
I will probably be at SEMA this year too, we should try to hook up. I will have a couple of vehicles there as well.
I think your car is going to really surprise alot of people.
Mark

Posted by: neo914-6 Apr 9 2006, 07:19 AM

QUOTE (marks914 @ Apr 9 2006, 03:19 AM)

Hey Felix, I will probably be at SEMA this year too, we should try to hook up.  I will have a couple of vehicles there as well. I think your car is going to really surprise alot of people. Mark

Sounds Great Mark! McMark and others from the Bay Area may be there and we will surely meet the Las Vegas Contingent: Vegas Racer, LVSteve, Chris914n...

Posted by: neo914-6 Apr 13 2006, 01:51 AM

Tony at TC Design has made great progress on mounting the drivetrain. He used the stock Boxster transmission mount bolted on a welded boxed section that will be tied to the shock mount. He also cut some of the rear firewall but much of it will be replaced once fitment is complete. The front motor mounts are about 8" rear of the bar and he plans to use the stock front snub motor mount to reduce radial engine motion. While the work is fantastic it unfortunately will be difficult to reproduce a simple conversion kit. If you ever need a spec track or street cage TC Design is arguably the best in SF Bay Area.

Can't seem to post pics...

Posted by: neo914-6 Apr 14 2006, 01:36 AM

can post pics now!


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Posted by: neo914-6 Apr 14 2006, 01:37 AM

Boxster Transaxle! Should have more pics tomorrow...


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Posted by: neo914-6 Apr 14 2006, 11:51 PM

Progress at TC Design: the engine and transaxle mounts are done, sorry no closeups of the fine workmanship. The drivetrain is out so Tony can work on the front engine mount and fabricate an access panel for the back of the engine. The interesting thing is the drivetrain is designed asymetrical. The Boxster output flange sticks out on the left side and the other side is recessed. The Audi heads are slightly offset as well. Not a problem just an observation...

The turbo outlets to downpipe are oval. Good thing I have the mating down pipe to modify...


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Posted by: mg914 Jun 9 2006, 03:55 PM

need more updates.... feed me Seymour!!

Posted by: Virgil Jun 10 2006, 07:47 AM

I wish I had time (and money) to tinker endlessly with parts, cars, motorcycles, and metal.... wow. I will be there someday.

Posted by: neo914-6 Jun 12 2006, 12:13 AM

May was consumed by a couple surgeries (wife and Tony), more responsibilities at work (I'm told opportunities), and a daughter with more energy than mine. Other drama but nothing that needs to be stated.

I finally got the correct S4 wiring harness, this is how it looks like after a couple of hours of "organizing" it. I figured why risk differences in the A4 harness I previously found. Here's a thread on http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=55328. What's cool is I found another converter that is installing a 2.7tt into a VW truck. Here's http://gallery2.t49.net/v/cars/project/tobes49caddy/ More collaborative knowledge to help this project move forward!

I installed the power steering pump pulley and found out Jason gutted his on his Boxster 914 so it could run "dry". It's now basically a bearing holder for the pulley. What's interesting to me is the designs are similar and I may be able to use the Boxster pump once I've adapted the Audi power steering column and rack that I also acquired. I know the Boxster pump is designed to pump the distance from a mid placed engine. This is phase 2 or 3 and a trip to Marks I'm sure.

I discovered the Audi S4 pedal assembly is too long and tall so I'm back to the 993/6 assembly but with the Audi E-throttle. With the correct harness everything should work. I even got a tank level sensor that I "may" adapt later...


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Posted by: jonwatts Jun 12 2006, 08:03 AM

mmm, nice controls.

so which pedal cluster is that, the audi or the 993?

Posted by: dflesburg Jun 12 2006, 08:54 AM

I think the thing that truely sets your drawing apart is the windows...

If you have one piece glass made like that let me know, I will take a pair, but you will need to make a new guide to fit in the door to hold the front edge....

Posted by: neo914-6 Jun 20 2006, 12:56 AM

Drivetrain mounts, cooling pipes formed, downpipes fabricated. Excellent work Tony!


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Posted by: Mueller Jun 20 2006, 02:01 AM

man, I look at all that wiring and plumbing and it makes me want to hug my "simple" Type IV

good to see some serious progress !!!!

Posted by: neo914-6 Jun 20 2006, 10:23 PM

Mike,

Simple is not in your vocabulary!

revised schedule:
June 06- mount shifter, mufflers, instruments & climate control system, HID headlights
July 06 - mount radiators, plumbing, single arm wiper, single piece windows
Aug 06 - interior, mold bumpers, and fabricate rockers, , tail lights, retractible spoiler, disassemble
Sept 06 -body prep, paint
Oct 06 - re-assembly, shake down, marketing
Nov 06 - transport to LV, SEMA



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Posted by: Brad Roberts Jun 20 2006, 10:30 PM

Felix,

I see 06 SEMA?

Care to elaborate on this? Do you have a business now?


B

Posted by: Andyrew Jun 20 2006, 10:35 PM

Looking great man!!!

Posted by: neo914-6 Jun 24 2006, 11:32 AM

Brad,

No biz yet but definitely a 3-D design portfolio. Check my threads. The plan started last year:

Posted by: neo914-6 Jul 3 2006, 09:27 PM

Bling for Mike Mueller...


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Posted by: neo914-6 Jul 30 2006, 01:42 AM

Count down to SEMA as the registration is in. I don't know how I got myself into this schedule crunch (well I do actually) but it will be late nights for 3 months and some parts of the project may be postponed time permitting. The last thing I want is a non-runner so I will be asking for more "favors" ...

What must happen:
-Fabricate designed body pieces and mount all Audi components in August
-Body & Paint in September
-Work on details and functionality in October

Transport to Las Vegas Oct 29th

Posted by: neo914-6 Aug 1 2006, 03:23 AM

Worked on plumbing yesterday and fitting the radiators. I beaded one end of my formed aluminum tubes and like the Earls tool. I was pleased that I used "most" of the stock radiator bracket. I may need brackets welded in as I've cut out so much metal. The neighbors must love my racket.

Today, I had to lift the engine an inch to pull out the old shifter rod. The engine mount didn't quite match the hole when I lowered it so I had to creatively "persuade" it to align. I have to run the cable lengths to locate the shifter.

I spoke to a fiberglass fabricator today about whether to build a one-off composite bumper or a plug for a mold. I wanted to make the "plug" removable so he can work on it at his shop but will likely build it on the car given the shape. I need to get a fiberglass stock valance and the fender straightened first.

My friend from Art Center gave me some good advise and a lead on a fabricator in LA that I plan to use for the articulating spoiler. He is supposed to be very good, I just hope I can afford him.

Got another lead on a local upholsterer, I need to bring them the back panel and seat for quotes.

Booked an appt with a painter to look a my project. He only does one car at a time. I have several local options but schedule and cost will be the driver.

Got a source on an inexpensive windshield @ $200.

I found a mechanic/fabricator on carsdomain who added 944 power brakes and VW Corrado power steering on his 914. These are definitely in the phase 2 (post SEMA) plans...

sorry no pics...

Posted by: mrdezyne Aug 2 2006, 01:31 PM

Add my name to your list of people to meet up with at SEMA. I will be there with LOWRANCE and our GPS systems but should have plenty of free time to mix and mingle. Maybe we can get a group together one day and go bug the guys at Renegade.

Posted by: Brian Mifsud Aug 2 2006, 03:22 PM

Hi Felix,

Wow.. those huge "hats" on top of your stock hubs really look like they will cantilevering your wheel bearings quite a bit. What do you think?

Posted by: neo914-6 Aug 2 2006, 03:53 PM

Brian,

That's a good topic for discussion. These spacers are made to fit the positive offset wheels many manufacturers are producing. You hardly see the negative deep dish (negative offset) wheels anymore. I just wanted to stay with the modern trend and use available large diameter factory alloys and I liked this design for my car. We'll have to see the affects on the wheel bearings...

Did you do your SD to Bay Area run yet?

Posted by: byndbad914 Aug 2 2006, 05:16 PM

Offset for moment in the bearings depends upon the centerline of the tire contact patch itself, not necessarily where the mounting surface is.

So you can have a really wide wheel with a major backspacing so you need a big-arse spacer, but the moment may be no different than the stock wheel. Probably just have a rubbing issue on the inner fenderwell instead <for instance>.

Easiest just to assume that where the plane at the center of the tire is is where the reaction force is thru, not where the plane at the end of the spacer is.

btw Felix, what is up with the headlight in turnsignal bucket deal??

Posted by: TonyAKAVW Aug 2 2006, 05:57 PM

First batch of lenses will be arriving here about a month from now. As far as I know thats the 'critical part.'

-Tony

Posted by: byndbad914 Aug 2 2006, 06:02 PM

Hey Tony... are you having them made from glass? I thought you guys were talking something injection molded - but did you find a plastic than can take the heat? I am waiting to buy a fiberglass hood to see if yous guys can make this work - then I can ditch my headlight assemblies altogether on the tube car. If so, I get the big hood, otherwise I need the one with headlight cut-outs

Would be nice to 86 those headlight buckets altogether!

Posted by: guiltless Aug 2 2006, 06:10 PM

So which Audi engines will mate up with the Boxter transaxle?

This is an inspiring project for me. After seeing this, and contemplating some engine options, I am pretty sure I am going to be ditching Suby Power.

Posted by: TonyAKAVW Aug 2 2006, 06:29 PM

The lenses are being made from plastic by injection molding. The die is steel, and pretty much any plastic or ruber can be used. I am not sure of the name of the material being used, but I told him (my father inlaw) that it must withstand high heat, UV, and be crystal clear. He seemed to have no problem with those requirements.

I'm really suspecting that the HID headlights won't put out nearly as much heat as standard incandescent or halogen bulbs. The color temperature of the HID bulbs are much higher, so their spectral content in the infrared is lower than for a halogen. Also, they are much more efficient, meaning thatless energy is lost as heat. So I'm betting that heat isn't going ot be as much of an issue as people think.

-Tony

Posted by: neo914-6 Aug 2 2006, 08:19 PM

I'm really excited about Tony's lenses, they will certainly add a "production" look to this car. Having many sets available will make replacement feasible. My old Mercedes has clear plastic surrounds for the fog light that yellow over time but my bet is modern plastics are better formulated.

Tim, the lights will work as they are plug and play but how the lenses hold up are the question. I will keep mine vented inside the fender to help manage the heat.

Let me know if anyone will be there Sunday 29th, I may need help setting up and have an "assistants" badge.


We know the 2.7TT and probably the 1.8T. Sonu used the stock A4 gearbox but it is very similar to the Boxster. You'd have to really like the Audis since the Suby engines are easier to transplant.

Posted by: byndbad914 Aug 2 2006, 08:57 PM

kosher - just want to see if the covers work, then the conversion would be a clean setup. No cover would look a little funky me thinks... my car is a POS but I must have a lens that works Won't be painted, but that signal bucket better look sweet

Posted by: neo914-6 Aug 7 2006, 01:18 AM

I'm on a 90 day mad SEMA schedule so excuse me if I don't post, email, or call you back. I have a daily diary and may post it as a blog but here are the highlights:

Ordered a Rennspeed full fiberglass hood, I cannot work in the Getty CF for my design. It cannot be "filled" to match the pattern. A metal hood would have cost me more and add more time. I can always have one fabricated later.

I mounted the fog lights below the signal pods, as a "backup". If the single Hella HID's don't provide enough light, I can easily replace the fogs with another set of HID's.

After removing the stock dash, I test fit the Audi dash. It's a nice fit but I still have to align the climate system ducts. The steering column is ~2" to the right relative to the instrument panlel and the pedals are even further right. If I correct the alignment to the instruments it will be more awkward for the legs. I may move the steering column only an inch left which will require a longer shaft and a fabricated mounting plate.

I cut out areas of the front bulkhead to fit the climate control unit and so far looks like it will fit albiet with very little leg room for the passenger. Oh well the seat is non-adjust anyway, LOL.

I fit the 996 radiators, the stock mount brackets worked well after I trimmed them. I even used the stock inlet and outlet ducts, see the bumper thread for a pic. I cut down the Boxster Y tubes and will get the right fittings and hoses later. I used an Earl's tool to create hose beads on the tubes TC Design bent to the trough under the car. It required a huge wrench.

The stock intercoolers are ~1" too wide and the inlet/outlets won't work, I may buy some from http://www.bellintercoolers.com/.

I worked on the doors, the 996 regulators are quite a challenge but will make them work...

Posted by: byndbad914 Aug 7 2006, 07:59 PM

I think you are right about that. My friend works for Honda and had a new S2000 the other night and we drove around a bit, got back, and I asked him to leave the headlights on real quick. Jumped out and felt the plastic and no heat at all. So, plastic should be fine assuming it doesn't sun fade (I figure you already considered that in material selection...)

Posted by: neo914-6 Aug 7 2006, 11:00 PM

Tim,

last Dec '05:

Posted by: guiltless Aug 7 2006, 11:04 PM

I was thinking more along the lines of the W12. I know there are a TON of issues to work out (which I am well on my way to working out), I just want to see how bad the tranny issue would be.

Posted by: neo914-6 Aug 8 2006, 12:36 AM

What's a W12?

BTW, I started to trim the Audi dashboard to fit. Climate Control, yeah!

Posted by: guiltless Aug 8 2006, 10:41 AM

Picture 2 vr6's stuck together at an angle. It is 12 cylinders packed into a space just larger than a standard v6. 450hp N/A. Audi puts it in the A8L and VW puts it into the Phaeton.


I can't wait to see the dash. I would have never thought to integrate the Audi climate control.

Posted by: AndrewBlyholder Aug 8 2006, 02:42 PM

Love the Neo914 project. I've had similar dreams, but I've several years from starting on anything. My long term goal is to create a comfortable highway cruiser with all the modern amenities, like good climate control/AC. My wife's family is in LA so we do the highway 5 boggie down from SF several times a year. I'd love to do that in a 914.

So I'm most interested in your new climate control system. I see you're splicing in an Audi system, but how much of it? Including the heater mixing box? If so, how are you mounting that? In the front trunk or behind the front bulkhead in the passenger compartment? AC? Condenser location?

Sorry so many questions,

Thanks,

Andrew

Posted by: neo914-6 Aug 8 2006, 03:23 PM

Andrew,

Thanks for the interest, I've heard alot about your race prowness!

I have the Audi S4 dash, climate control unit, controller that I'm adapting, er shoehorning ( into the car. There is room under the cowl without the stock fan/blower and vents. It will fit but the passenger may have limited leg room .

I have 996 dual radiators and condensors to use with the stock Audi A/C compressor and dryer. I doubt it will work by November but as long as all the components are in, I just need to get custom AC lines made and the harness connectors attached. I am currently using an AC delete accessory belt, it must have come from Germany, LOL.

No pics until it is more complete but I am photo documenting most of the steps for those who want to duplicate it.

Posted by: neo914-6 Aug 10 2006, 01:37 AM

For AndrewB, new use of a jackstand...


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Posted by: TonyAKAVW Aug 17 2006, 01:16 PM

Last night a custom fabricator came by and took measurements off of my car for the rear spoiler. He'll be back next week with a prototype hinge to test for fit. Clearly this guy knows what he's doing. He showed up in a really wild hot rod he built. I'll try to get a picture of it next week. Very cool custom built car. WWII bomber motif with 50 cal barrels on the front, and tons of custom fabricated stuff including a throttle from some plane that he's using as his cruise control!

Anyway, the spoiler fabrication appears to be in good hands.

-Tony

Posted by: neo914-6 Aug 17 2006, 01:25 PM

Thanks Tony

He was referred to me by my friend a Yamaha designer...

Posted by: mrdezyne Sep 6 2006, 03:46 PM

Felix,
What is your status, any progress lately? Can't wait to see this beast at SEMA!

Posted by: Joe Sharp Sep 6 2006, 03:51 PM

The fabracator ( David West) has the parts he needs to do the spoiler and my permission to cut it up for what he needs. I hope this will help to make it make to the show.
Joe

Posted by: neo914-6 Sep 6 2006, 08:24 PM

Every bit helps.

Thanks!

Mr Dezyne,

Thanks for asking I gave an update on the Pelican post, not much time to post right now. I meet with the painter in 10 minutes...

Posted by: mrdezyne Sep 6 2006, 10:32 PM

Keep up the good fight, we are all dying to see the rewards of your efforts...

Posted by: neo914-6 Sep 21 2006, 03:21 AM

Not much posting till now. I'm getting over a flu bug probably because I was working so late each night. The filler and glass dust/fumes didn't help.

The body prep is coming along, Ashley is working hard to avoid overuse of filler. It got into the high 90's a couple of weeks ago so I erected a car tent.

The front bumper was/is a project, I molded some fog light bezels out of yogurt containers and then molded the BMW intake bezels in plastic coated cardboard. The challenge was making it symetrical. It turned out the body and fenders weren't so I may have to refuse full front view pics for this reason. I'm still happy with the results and am learning alot more about fiberglass and forming materials. I'm going to tackle some CF after the "scoop" top.

I test fitted the cut-down tail light and housing. David will be up next week to fit the articulating spoiler. He's designed in the actuators and micro switches. I will have a "LAPUWALI" sticker under the spoiler as a tribute to James.

The headlight lenses are due any day now thanks to Tony and Jes' dad. I'm going to mount the ballasts inside the fender so I'll need to fab some liners to protect them.

That's it for now, maybe not until SEMA. Hope to see some of you there!

Posted by: mrdezyne Sep 21 2006, 01:52 PM

I'd like to get a pair of those lenses also if and when they become available. I will get into Vegas on the 31st (Halloween in Vegas! All the freaks come out!) and leave on the 3rd so that gives me 3 days to track you down.... See ya there!

Posted by: Mueller Oct 2 2006, 12:45 PM

Felix,

steering wheel extension is machined...you'll need 6 1/4-20 x 7/8 button socket head cap screws. If you want black oxide finish you can get them from mcmaster-carr....91255A541 is the item number, $7.20 for a pack of 50, or I can pick up some standard finish ones and we can paint them.

Gas filler tube is machined as well and fits nicely, I will be in Fremont on Tuesday, we can meet up for lunch...

Posted by: neo914-6 Oct 2 2006, 02:42 PM

see ya tomorrow!

Posted by: Aaron Cox Oct 2 2006, 03:17 PM

ahhhhhhhh moooooore Pics!!!!

Posted by: jonwatts Oct 2 2006, 09:41 PM

So Felix, do you still need my spare steering column? I keep forgetting to drop it off.

Posted by: neo914-6 Oct 2 2006, 10:35 PM

Sure, want to join us for lunch in Fremont? I "may" not need the shaft if I a welder can add length with another rod. Have a windshield frame header? Jason just got rid of alot of tub parts!

Dang my second rocker came out of the mold crappy, I was trying two layer fiberglass and didn't saturate the mold enough but at least the corner was filled this time (cabosil).

I had the bumper almost finished but the right corner didn't quite match so I took the grinder to it...

Man I am going to after this project!

Posted by: Mueller Oct 22 2006, 02:26 PM

gas filler "bezel" (???) finished....

working on the pedal assembly after lunch and grocery shopping

Posted by: neo914-6 Oct 22 2006, 03:40 PM

Sweet! Any chance of getting a radial "spun" pattern? See you Tues?

I'm taking Thur and Fri off to get it back together. Anyone in the Bay Area free to lend a hand would be appreciated...

Posted by: Mueller Oct 22 2006, 08:16 PM

here you go, hard to see in the pic....Tuesday will work, I'm leaving Thrusday morning for Idaho with the family to visit some friends for the weekend...

Posted by: neo914-6 Oct 22 2006, 08:58 PM

We're working on a project for Micron, watch out for the bears.

Hey, leave me the keys to your truck, not kidding...

Posted by: mikez Oct 22 2006, 09:17 PM

Are you going have any exterior graphics?

Posted by: Mueller Oct 22 2006, 10:12 PM

pedal assemblies done...I "misplaced" the roll pin for that "J" dude

hopefully I can find it before Tuesday....

Posted by: 9146986 Oct 23 2006, 06:52 PM

Any photos of the current condition?

Posted by: neo914-6 Oct 27 2006, 03:20 AM

Thursday arrival from Yeamans Auto Body (Scotts business)...




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Posted by: mrhurtalot Oct 27 2006, 08:53 AM

Wow. looks amazing!! cant wait till its finished!

Posted by: Bigbohr Oct 27 2006, 09:10 AM

Was there any more news on these clear lenses? That should be pretty cool.

Posted by: John Kelly Oct 27 2006, 09:21 AM

Wow, looks fantastic Felix! Can't wait to see it put back together.

John www.ghiaspecialties.com

Posted by: TonyAKAVW Oct 27 2006, 11:06 AM

Ahh yes, the saga of the lenses. The worst part of this is that I won't be able to get Felix the lenses in time for the show. The first batch of lenses were molded Monday of last week, but they didn't come out well. At this point the die is being polished. That is supposed to be done within the next week, but I don't know when the die will get back on to the injection molding machine. I'm hoping within 2-3 weeks but I don't know.

I'll try to find the pictures I have later.

-Tony

Posted by: GTeener Oct 27 2006, 03:58 PM

Looking really cool!

Good stuff Felix

Posted by: neo914-6 Oct 27 2006, 04:11 PM

I would have really liked the lenses on for the show and Tony did his best. I spent a little extra time finishing the bezel and they look "mean". I'll wait for the lenses before getting professional pictures...

Thanks all for the kind words!!! I'll have to update the contributors list soon...

Posted by: TonyAKAVW Oct 27 2006, 04:31 PM

Here's the preliminary pictures of the lenses and the die.


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Posted by: TonyAKAVW Oct 27 2006, 04:32 PM

The die.. currently out for polishing.


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Posted by: McMark Oct 27 2006, 04:45 PM

Custom made parts make me drool!

Posted by: bryanf Oct 27 2006, 07:46 PM

Just a thought....You might want to talk to the guys as Prototypes Plus (Menlo Park) for a quicker way to make parts like these lenses. They should be able to whip out a couple of flame polished CNC machined parts in no time. Of course they'll be pricey, and you won't be able to sell them to all your friends, but it should be a lot quicker than the injection molded route...Or they may come up with some othe cool quick prototyping technique (like SLA to silicone molds)...

Bryan

Posted by: marks914 Oct 28 2006, 08:53 AM

Parts with a constant material thickness like thoes lenses can be drape formed or vacuum formed very quickly and inexpensively.

Give it a try,

PS my SEMA car shipped yesterday! YAY!

Posted by: alpha434 Oct 28 2006, 09:02 AM

There isn't a comparison with die molding. Flame polishing leaves imperfections And drape forming/ vacuum molding still needs a die.

Here's my idea. You need something quick, that will look good. Take the lense and bead blast the whole face of it, so that it will be a nice, even "snowy clear." It won't be quite as cool as the clear clear, but when the lights are on, the things will glow like the sun.

Posted by: richardL Oct 28 2006, 12:08 PM

Felix is making progress. Here are some pictures from this morning

Posted by: richardL Oct 28 2006, 12:10 PM

More

Posted by: richardL Oct 28 2006, 12:11 PM

Last, thats the spoiler between the rear lights above

Posted by: faux916 Oct 28 2006, 12:44 PM

All that work and no cupholder! Looking awesome.I can't wait to see it completed.

Posted by: KELTY360 Oct 28 2006, 01:34 PM

Simply breathtaking.....gasp....air, I need air!

Posted by: Eric_Shea Oct 28 2006, 02:01 PM

Screw the car... is that a front targa top seal?

(Looking good Felix)

Posted by: Loser_Cruiser Oct 28 2006, 02:09 PM

i kinda like the look of the projectors with out a lens covering it at all. good work. cant wait to see it finished.

Posted by: Andyrew Oct 28 2006, 03:03 PM

Lookin better than I thought!!!!

ya baby!!

Posted by: snflupigus Oct 28 2006, 04:40 PM

so when will those body molds be for sale

Posted by: neo914-6 Oct 28 2006, 04:54 PM

neo loaded, I'm OUTAHERE!!!!



Anyone with my cell# is free to call in the early AM to keep me up...

Posted by: VegasRacer Oct 28 2006, 05:03 PM

Happy Motoring Felix.
I'll call you at 3 AM when I get off from work.

I can't wait to see the Neo914-6.

Posted by: StratPlayer Oct 28 2006, 05:38 PM

John take plenty of pics....

Posted by: neo914-6 Nov 7 2006, 04:36 PM

So the threads won't get lost:

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=63012

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=63041&hl=felix

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=63183&st=0

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=63023&st=20

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=62311&hl=neo914

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=63017&hl=neo914

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=43612&st=40

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=62827&hl=sema

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=62502&hl=sema

I'll update my sub-threads now that I have a little more time, that is after I spend more of with family. It's nice to be able to sleep again. More SEMA pics to follow once I get them developed and converted to digital. Thanks for the nice comments!

Posted by: neo914-6 Nov 11 2006, 02:27 PM

Besides showing a car in SEMA, there were a few "firsts" for me:

Driving all night with little sleep (avg 5 hrs for 3 months)
Driving a full size truck and trailer 1100 miles RT

Having the car semi-presentable was the first major milestone. The next will be getting it running and then completing the rest of the 1000 details...



this was in Henderson, Boxster cover fits good!!


this was on the way back...

Posted by: neo914-6 Nov 11 2006, 04:21 PM

A plug for Le's Auto Glass 408-202-5634 who installed the windshield and the rear window at my house. Not PPG but a very nice quality and great price. They installed it 4 hours before I left for Las Vegas.


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Posted by: neo914-6 Nov 12 2006, 11:29 AM

thought I'd post John's pics he took at SEMA (he's an excellent photographer)


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Posted by: BIGKAT_83 Nov 12 2006, 11:48 AM

Felix found your car on a Hot rod website, with 600 hundred pictures of the sema show.
Check it out.

http://www.ls1tech.com/SEMA_06/pages/IMG_3170.htm


Bob

Posted by: neo914-6 Nov 14 2006, 10:19 PM

Thanks, I wonder if they'll make it on some foreign sites...

Posted by: neo914-6 Nov 16 2006, 07:23 PM

pics and comments on these sites:

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2910410&page=1

http://66.218.69.11/search/cache?p=sema+914&ei=UTF-8&fr=ush1-mail&u=honda-tech.com/zerothread%3Fid%3D1796004%26postid%3D24603521&w=sema+914&d=WS_5a5IFNyag&icp=1&.intl=us

http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=892289&postcount=41

http://www.jancecustoms.com/sema_2006_photo336.JPG

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showpost.php?p=15852332&postcount=67

http://forums.dieselstation.com/index.php?showtopic=19511
nice comments:

http://forums.thecarlounge.net/zerothread?id=2910410









http://www.pit-stop.com/forums/showthread.php?t=166

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showthread.php?threadid=251656&perpage=20&pagenumber=2

http://www.semagallery.com/displayimage.php?album=17&pos=273

http://www.semagallery.com/displayimage.php?album=17&pos=340

http://www.semagallery.com/displayimage.php?album=17&pos=397

http://www.cardomain.com/event/2006/10/31/SEM?c=0&p=3

http://www.upsolute.ru/index.php?page=articlefoto&001_article_id=187&001_foto_id=3851

Posted by: GTeener Nov 16 2006, 07:34 PM

Liked this quote:



Great press Felix!

Can't wait to see her when she's really finished

Posted by: neo914-6 Nov 18 2006, 11:47 AM

I particularly liked the dieselstation comments, hey when are 914's ever finished?

Posted by: neo914-6 Nov 23 2006, 01:32 AM

I've had a little break and now have a new goal/deadline. Get the car driveable for http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=64380 by Jan 10th.

-I compared Darren's Boxster clutch parts to the Audi 2.7, the differences are: engine pulse toner wheel mount, fore and aft dimensions, design variation. The common things are: starter ring dia and teeth, 9.5" dia clutch, clutch slave, pilot bearing, and release bearing

-Find 964 clutch pedal assembly or buy an aftermarket Tilton

-Swap CV's and mount the unequal length axles

-Install Audi wiring harnesses, ECU, Battery, air box

-Mount the formed water tubes, fit hoses to the radiators and fill tank

-Mount the Hella HID ballasts and wire harness

-wire the LED tail, mirror signal, and front signal lights

-finalize a shifter cover, design and frame the center instrumentation

-Bend Lexan side windows and mount up so people can't reach in the car

-Mount the Borla mufflers

Opps, forgot some:

-Mount e-throttle

-verify existing e-fuel pump pressure and flow

-Find remote ignition switch and start button

-install seals

Posted by: turbo914v8 Nov 23 2006, 06:29 AM

Oh I think you forget something on your list.....

Sell the car to me.

Great work, I cant wait to see it finished.

Posted by: John Kelly Nov 23 2006, 08:50 AM

Hi Felix,

You probably already know this but Lexan makes a product with a scratch resistant surface on one side. I think it is called mar gaurd. I used it for my chopped Ghia roadster windshield. It held up nicely. If I could afford a project manager, you would be my first choice. I'm so impressed with your drive! I am finally focusing on huge job of editing some of the footage from the flare work. I will send you a copy when it is done. Hard to believe it is the same car...

John www.ghiaspecialties.com

Posted by: Casper Nov 23 2006, 09:36 AM

John,

Did you do the flare work on this car? I would like to purchase the video of that work when you have it complete.

Thanks,

Tom Cooper

Posted by: neo914-6 Nov 23 2006, 11:59 AM

Paul,

I'm "afraid" to add up the costs and my time...

Posted by: neo914-6 Nov 23 2006, 12:34 PM

John,

TAP also has a one or two sided scratch resistant plexiglass but am told they loose that quality when heated. Really tough, resists rubbing from a Scotchpad. Did you bend your windshield? I was hoping to cold bend the Lexan but may need to build a heat box and wood jig.

Feel free to post any of the pics on your websites, John (Vegasracer) has high res if you need them. I'll try to get digital video for the SJ Auto show.

Posted by: John Kelly Nov 23 2006, 12:40 PM

Hi Tom,

Felix was kind enough to trust me to do the rear flares to the point of bare metal, unwelded, and still needing cosmetic work, Mark DeBernardi did the fronts using some of my techniques, and I'm sure, plenty of his own. If you email me directly, I will let you know when the video is done: ghiafab@coastaccess.com It will contain both methods. Sorry for the hihjack Felix.

Quick edit:

Hi Felix the Ghia windshield held its curve by itself...put the rubber on and installed it...that was it. It goes back to flat when removed.

John www.ghiaspecialties.com

Posted by: neo914-6 Nov 23 2006, 01:00 PM

No highjack, I support people who contributed to this project and the metal craft that you teach.

Posted by: mrhurtalot Nov 26 2006, 01:06 PM

if the car reaaaaaaaly wants to be modern.

make it get 4 miles to the gallon and go ahead and shove about100 computer controlled everythings in there.

lamo

just kididn man looks amazing.

Posted by: neo914-6 Nov 26 2006, 02:19 PM

lamo or lmao?

Even my V8 914 get's better mileage than 4MPG! Modern fuel management yields great MPG and I do plan to use as much of the Audi S4 intruments and diagnostics if I can sort out the wiring, LOL.

Posted by: mrhurtalot Nov 26 2006, 03:47 PM

hooray! im glad!

i think my explorer has less wires than that.

hmm how about a 914x4

Posted by: Andyrew Nov 26 2006, 07:21 PM

Felix.. you going to incorperate a gps into it?

I bought one at staples for 150 durring black friday... its so accurate... right out of the box!! Also it shows gas stations, and country roads, (took 88 to carson city... accurate to about 20 feet.) displays MPH, altitude, position, N S E W, ect..

I think it would be a great addition to the NEO.. all 1 lb of it...

Posted by: neo914-6 Nov 27 2006, 12:22 AM

Andrew,

Those are NICE! What time did you get in line? I was having coffee and bagels on black friday far away from the malls.

I'm planning to incorporate a computer with all media, GPS, etc. My upholsterer has a line on them. There goes the rear trunk, LOL.

Posted by: neo914-6 Jan 5 2007, 12:51 AM

Unfortunately I made virtually no progress on my list before the show. I need to disassemble alot and remove the drivetrain after the show.

I found out I have the wrong 944 CV's thanks to Aaron as they have the wrong spline count vs. the 930 axle.

I did get a Boxster clutch pedal assembly and bench wired alot of the components...

Posted by: neo914-6 Jan 5 2007, 12:54 AM

I also mounted the ballast and lit up the HID's. Found out I need to angle them down a little...

Posted by: McMark Jan 5 2007, 12:56 AM

WOW!!! The lights work!!! Things are coming together.

Stickers will go out next Monday.

Posted by: neo914-6 Jan 5 2007, 03:15 AM

Mark,

I'll need the stock 914 brake pedal asm back. I'd have to punch a big hole in the tank to use the Boxster asm.

Check out what Jason found from the UK, it's 964...

Posted by: McMark Jan 5 2007, 11:13 AM

Felix, I'll bring it to Mike on Saturday.

Posted by: Bigbohr Jan 5 2007, 11:45 AM

Sorry to ask again, but is there any progress made on the clear lenses for the turn-signal openings?

Posted by: neo914-6 Jan 10 2007, 12:12 AM

Last info from Tony was that his wife was hand carrying them on her flight on the 13th. I should get the first set shortly thereafter

Posted by: neo914-6 Jan 10 2007, 01:27 AM

Bought some Boxster bumpers so I can remold the rear bumperette pockets. I also got bought some stock intercoolers because I can fit two rights, since the pair has different plumbing ports. Bought a BMW door latch since the stock 914 latch didn't look right.

Got the most of the seals installed, it took longer than I thought.

Bad news, my halogen light on a post fell on the rear fender flare and made a little nick. Fortunately the fender was strong enough to resist a dent...

Got the car loaded for SJ Auto Show, this is the LAST time I want to tow it!

Posted by: TonyAKAVW Jan 10 2007, 12:05 PM

That's correct. I don't know how many sets she will be bringing with her, but definitely more than 1. I can't wait to see how they come out. Its been a long time in the making with these.

-Tony

Posted by: nocones Jan 10 2007, 12:23 PM

Still REALLY interested in getting a set of these!

Posted by: Bigbohr Jan 11 2007, 10:52 PM

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That's correct. I don't know how many sets she will be bringing with her, but definitely more than 1. I can't wait to see how they come out. Its been a long time in the making with these.

-Tony
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Cool beans. I think clear lenses will look great.
Hope they will turn out good and be for sale real soon ...
Thanks for making this happen.

Posted by: neo914-6 Jan 20 2007, 05:28 PM

Got the lenses Friday, thanks TonyAKAVW!

Posted by: neo914-6 Jan 20 2007, 05:29 PM

another

Posted by: neo914-6 Jan 20 2007, 05:30 PM

I'll light them up tonight, anyone have extra screws and a U clamp?




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Posted by: neo914-6 Jan 20 2007, 05:47 PM

Finally won a targa pad and these refurbished latches from 914parts.com on eBay.

Posted by: TonyAKAVW Jan 20 2007, 06:45 PM

COOL!!

The defect in the middle of the lenses will be gone in the next batch. I'll get you some of those when they get here..

-Tony

Posted by: Aaron Cox Jan 20 2007, 06:46 PM

tight!

Posted by: Crazyhippy Jan 20 2007, 06:57 PM

Casting mark? Can it be wet sanded and polished out now?

BJH

Posted by: TonyAKAVW Jan 20 2007, 07:10 PM

Apparently the die does not yet have cooling channels in it and defects like that occur. Once the die has some large holes put in it, cool water will be pumped through, and somehow that makes the lenses form better. I'm not sure why, but thats the explanation I was given.

The plastic is squeezed into the die under extremely high pressure and at high temp. A large chrome plated screw (maybe 3 feet long) pushes the molten plastc through a progrssively heated, chrome plated tube to a nozzle that injects the plastic at two points, (at the ends, at each of the screw holes). It seems that the small divot in the middle (its a divot on the inside) is where the two flows of plastic meet. Somehow cooling the die and running a bunch of lenses through it will remove that.

-Tony

Posted by: GTeener Jan 22 2007, 01:19 PM

Looking nice Felix! Thanks for sharing your progress.

Posted by: byndbad914 Jan 22 2007, 03:13 PM

Felix - you know, I forgot to ask, but with your setup do you have both hi- and lo-beam in one light? Most of those lights I have seen require you to have an individual light (or 2 per side) to have hi and lo. Technically to be street legal requires both tho' in NorCal or any mega-opolis, you really never need hi-beams

Posted by: neo914-6 Jan 22 2007, 06:20 PM

Tim I may have missed it but didn't see that in the CA http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&showtopic=35304&view=findpost&p=464946

I couldn't package two in a http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&showtopic=35304&view=findpost&p=498840 and still get the right angle

How was PRI?

Posted by: byndbad914 Jan 22 2007, 07:28 PM

I think that may be some sort of federal DOT standard, but I am almost positive hi and lo is a requirement - question for my buddy that is a Long Beach police officer next time we talk

I see your link where you tried two and I agree, won't fit if trying to fit a turn signal too. However, my thought was to try to make two fit and put a turn lens in the bumper area. AFAIK there isn't a strict height standard on turn signal placement, so maybe even in my front valence area (my Sheridan kit has a flat spot below the bumper/above the dam).

PRI is pretty amazing really. I had a crappy time working the booth with my buddy because there were two full grown men hanging from his nipples the whole goddamn show if you know what I mean. F'ing irritating to hear the same old questions and conversation over and over and over.... and over.... but the show itself is really amazing if you are into racing stuff. SEMA is cool from a show car and bolt-on standpoint, whereas PRI is the serious racing show. Hard to get into tho' unless you know somebody of course.

Bad side of the PRI show is I see all the stuff I "shoulda done" when building my tube car v. what I did already. That never ends tho' as there is always something cool/innovative coming out. Like your light idea When this all gets sorted and Tony has lenses for sale, I am all over it. Even with the dimple I think it looks good and is a great idea.

Posted by: TonyAKAVW Jan 22 2007, 08:28 PM

I was doing some looking and found that there are a lot of people doing HID retrofits to non-HID cars. So you can get projector housings, just the bare housings on ebay for $50-$150 depending on which model. AND, they have housings made for bi-xenon bulbs so you get hi and low beams from a single projector. I'm going to start looking into this more, as it may be a cheap way to put headlights in the turn signal buckets. A set of bulbs and ballasts are going to be in the $200 range. This compares nicely with the $700 to $800 for the prepackaged Hella units that aren't bi-xenon.

Here's a website of one place that sells the projectors.

http://www.theretrofitsource.com/

Interestingly, the bi-xenon headlights use a small solenoid to shift either the bulb or the lens (not sure yet) from the hi-beam arc to the low-beam arc.

-Tony

Posted by: byndbad914 Jan 23 2007, 01:25 PM

very cool Tony! That would solve all the issues!

Posted by: TonyAKAVW Jan 23 2007, 02:33 PM

I did some more reading/browsing on that HID stuff last night and it looks like unfortunately, the smallest diameter commonly available projector housing is 2.9 inches in diameter. The turn signal bucket lens is only about 2.5 inches across, so that would present a problem.

It might work out okay, but I'm looking into LED headlights. Basically stuff a whole bunch of white LEDs with individual lenses in there. There are a few issues to overcome... First, while there are nice lenses available for the LEDs I'm looking at, I'm not sure they have quite the vertical cutoff necessary. I'll be looking into this.

Second, LEDs require careful thermal management. The LEDs I'm thinking of using dissipate 3-5 watts in a pretty small area, and I will probably use 10-20 of them. So a decent heatsink will be needed.

Lastly, and maybe the most difficult is the legal issue. As far as I know right now the laws are not written to allow LEDs for headlights. The major problem is the limit on the number of filaments. While LEDs have no filaments per se, there would be the equivalent of 20-40 bulbs to comprise the pair of headlights. This exceeds a limitation on the number of bulbs on the front of a car. And unlike the HID/projector headlights, there is no vehicle currently sold with LED headlights. I'm certain though that within 5 years there will be, and the laws will need re-writing.

-Tony

Posted by: degreeoff Jan 23 2007, 02:50 PM

Hands down my man, THAT is the hottest 914 ever.....

Posted by: Rand Jan 23 2007, 04:05 PM

I've been watching this too. A few manufacturers have been toying with it:
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4713

I figure it's just a matter of time. They are plenty bright, it just seems to be tough to get them to project. Easy to be seen by others, not so easy to light up what needs to be seen by the driver.

Posted by: Bigbohr Feb 1 2007, 09:36 PM

You could check out Hella 50mm modules. They have a 2" lens. The module body gets wider to something like 3" but that could fit inside the fender. Expensive though.

Posted by: neo914-6 Jun 23 2007, 01:57 AM

I am beginning to work on neo914 again after ~5 month hiatus, thanks to a tough early http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=67948&hl=tree



Mueller installed the rear http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=72075&hl=needle. The arms were refinished and rebuilt by Jim (roadster fan). These were equipped with 944 hubs, stubs, 911 CV's and will replace the Rich Johnson 5-lug conversion currently on the car which were sold with my V8.

I'm employing Rich Johnson to rebuild my Koni struts, powdercoat welded A-arms donated by Mueller, install Shine needle bearings, and his Boxster calipers mounted with http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=72349. Rich will do something "special" to the calipers.

I'm contemplating getting some stock doors and windows until I can finish my single piece windows. They may be on the backburner until I get the car running.

Still buying lots of miscl parts and selling unecessary parts.

Many other things brewing as soon as I get my garage cleared and remember where I left off.

In my tendency to do too many things at once, I am planning on a house addition which may include a real garage!

Posted by: alpha434 Jun 23 2007, 11:12 AM

My girlfriend says; "that's a nice Mazda"

Posted by: neo914-6 Jun 24 2007, 03:47 PM

She's a keeper!

Posted by: neo914-6 Jun 25 2007, 02:07 AM

Update,

Finally got a digital caliper from OSH (I love it!) to measure my pile of CV's/axles.

I'm beginning to "live" at OSH again, Michael N can attest to that.

Worked a little on the interior, mounted the leather sun visors, figured out which parts I need and which parts to powdercoat or plate.

Instead of a modifed 964/914 pedal cluster, I will use a 914 brake only cluster, 986 clutch, and Audi S4 e-throttle pedals.

Investigated what I'll need for the hydraulic clutch lines. I bought an OEM hard line from the gearbox slave cylinder and a tubing bender to get it to fit my car. I may need to have a flex line made near the pedal master clutch cylinder.

Worked on the rear axles fitment. The car came with Rich Johnson flanges which will be replaced with a completely modified arm setup with 911/944 CV's, and 944 hubs, see the http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=72075&hl=.

Here are my measurements and web data, with some tolerance for measuring threaded holes. The spreadsheet is not complete but tells me the 944 CV and will bolt up to the Boxster output flanges. Sonu (914 1.8T) used pre 85's so maybe my measurements aren't accurate or they were "close enough". In fact he borrowed my axles/CV's to fit them to his Audi conversion. Previous helpful threads were: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=65799&hl=axle http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=50422&hl=axle http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=49936&hl=axle http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=17664&hl=axle&st=40

CV Diameter
94 mm = 3.7" 914-4/6
100mm = 3.94" 911 to 85*, 6 bolt 911 Carrera models 84-89
100mm = 3.94" 944
100mm = 3.94" 986 (Boxster)
108mm = 4.25" 911 from 85, 930, SC?, 4 bolt 2 pin
*In 1985 Porsche changed the outer diameter of the 911 Carrera CV joint from 100mm to 108mm (same as 911 Turbo).

CV Hole pattern
77.5mm = 3" 914-4/6
85.6mm = 3.4" 944
85.6mm = 3.4 911 84-?
85.6mm = 3.4 986 (output flange)
94mm = 3.7" 911 to 85
94mm = 3.7" 986
94mm = 3.7" 930

interesting Notes on Paragon Products:
CV Joint Kit Product Code: PP911.332.030.01 $88.16
Fits 911 84-94, 911RSA, 930, 965, 993C2/4, 996C2/4, Boxster 97-04

CV Joint Kit - 25 spline
Product Code: PP951.332.901.00 $100.00
Fits 911 89-84 (964), 944S2, 944 Turbo 87-91, 968, Boxster

For 944:
Part # PP944.331.901.00 & 944.331.903.00 fit up to chassis #95HN151524
Part # PP951.332.901.00 & 951.332.903.00 fit from chassis #95HN151524

need to distinquish 911:
65-75
75-84
85-89
85-89 Turbo

CV width
31mm = 914 CV
32mm = 914-6/911
35mm = 944 CV
29mm = 986
40.19mm = 930

Spline count
33 = 914
33 = 914-6/911
33 = 944 pre 86
25 = 944 Turbo 1986 - 1991
25 = Porsche Carrera/4 1989 - 1994
25 = 986 Boxster 1997 - 2005
28 = 911 early to?
28 = 930

GKN Automotive CV Joint Kit
App: 1983-1989 Porsche 944 Base & S & Turbo
Brand: GKN Automotive
Part #: W0133-1611367
Notes: 33 Spline - Inner & Outer. 33 Spline.

GKN Automotive CV Joint Kit
App: 1987-1991 Porsche 944 S2 & Turbo
Brand: GKN Automotive
Part #: W0133-1611068
Notes: 25 Spline - Inner & Outer. 25 Spline

Pelican Parts
CV Joint Kit With Boot
App: 924S/944/944S All, 944 Turbo (1986-87)
Brand: Loebro
Part #: 944-331-901-00-M60

CV Joint Kit With Boot,
App: 944S2/968 (1989-95), 944 Turbo (1988-89, from ch# 95HN151525)
Brand: Loebro
Part #: 951-332-901-00-M60

Febi CV Joint Bolt
App: 1983-1991 Porsche 944 S2
Brand: Febi
Part #: W0133-1644056
Notes: 8x50mm - 12 Point

shaft diameter at spline
Spline shaft dia
?mm = 914
29mm = 914-6/911 early
25mm = 944
?mm = 986
29mm = 930

Axle shaft length
?mm = ?" 914
19.5" 911 '84 early
16" 944 #1
" 944 #2
~21" 986
~30" 930

neo914 shaft lengths needed (measured w/o stub axle flange)
Right 19.5"
Left 20.25"

recent info from Alan:

The 911 axles I have the larger 4 bolt 2 pin type CV instead of the smaller 6 bolt CV. Looks like I'll be shopping for 911 axles again...

Posted by: RoninEclipse2G Jun 25 2007, 11:37 AM

Hey Neo, love the whole project, looking great. I noticed your issues with the lighting and wanting either HID or LED and i thought I might know of a site to help. The forums are chock full of useful info

http://www.hidplanet.com

Posted by: neo914-6 Jul 15 2007, 11:27 PM

found a potentially adaptable light kit for those interested in keeping them in the original location: http://www.advancedautomotiveconcepts.com/MiataKitPage.shtml


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Posted by: neo914-6 Aug 22 2007, 04:08 PM

Looks like I will have a neo914 brother in Norway of all places. An Audi tuner there will install the 2.7T with it's 6 speed transaxle into his 914.

I'm still working on the rear suspension and awaiting Rich Johnson's fine work on my front struts and Boxster brakes. I will postpone installing the front needle bearings.

I also have a bet with Jason for who can get our conversions running first. He just finished building an incredible machine shop to help his project and can refocus on his 914. I recently got layed off from my job (outsourcing is the trend) so I have a time advantage.

Anyone know anyone who works at Tesla Motors?

Posted by: ppickerell Aug 22 2007, 06:45 PM

Felix,
I know a bunch of the Tesla guys. I made some of the parts for the test mule.
Patrick

Posted by: neo914-6 Sep 13 2007, 10:27 AM

Got some parts plated and powdercoated, I am really pleased how they came out.

Now I can finish http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=74069 and start on the front needle bearing susp.

Posted by: Blood red 914-6gt Sep 13 2007, 10:31 AM

Wow... that is going to be one clean little 914...er ahh... neo 914

Posted by: neo914-6 Sep 28 2007, 02:24 AM

Took my last list from Nov and updated it:
I compared Darren's Boxster clutch parts to the Audi 2.7, the differences are: engine pulse toner wheel mount, fore and aft dimensions, design variation. The common things are: starter ring dia and teeth, 9.5" dia clutch, clutch slave, pilot bearing, and release bearing - ordered an Audi clutch

-Find 964 clutch pedal assembly or buy an aftermarket Tilton - bought a Boxster asm and hacked it up for the clutch pedal asm.

-Swap CV's and mount the unequal length axles - have more axles than I need. Still have not found out the correct combination. I need to contact ajracer again.

-Install Audi wiring harnesses, ECU, Battery, air box - not done yet but checked a wrecked S4 to help determine where the wiring is placed and what the connectors are.

-Mount the formed water tubes, fit hoses to the radiators and fill tank - Almost done, it was/is alot of work

-Mount the Hella HID ballasts and wire harness - This was done early this year

-wire the LED tail, mirror signal, and front signal lights - not started yet

-finalize a shifter cover, design and frame the center instrumentation - just cut open the tunnel to mount the assembly. I still need to design and fab a cover

-Bend Lexan side windows and mount up so people can't reach in the car - not started yet

-Mount the Borla mufflers - not started yet

Opps, forgot some:

-Mount e-throttle - tried to disassemble one up and may have ruined it. I was going to reclock the pedal to mount it easier. Good thing I have a spare

-verify existing e-fuel pump pressure and flow - not started yet

-Find remote ignition switch and start button - not started yet

-install seals - installed most of them

Completed:
-mounted the rebuilt trailing arm asm with V-calipers
-mounted the rebuilt brake pedal asm
-mounted the rebuilt seat slider
-wired the rear view mirror
-mounted the sun visor header
-rebuilt the targa latches
-flared and mounted the cooling tubes under the car
-modified the Y pipes for the dual radiators
-mounted the Boxster radiator asm
-bought another 944 axle
-bought some 944 seat belts
-mounted the e-brake asm and cables
-made a plaster mold of the rear Boxster bumper pocket
-bought a service cover

not secured yet

Painted Por-15 before mounting

not the final pic but mostly there

flaring the tubing with an Earls tool

Posted by: Vacca Rabite Sep 28 2007, 07:02 AM

So you decided not to sell it?

Zach

Posted by: mrdezyne Sep 28 2007, 02:53 PM

Felix, good to see the work continue and in quick fashion it looks like. The dust layer that is on my project is almost cocoon-like, at this point I'm afraid to disturb it, perhaps it will morph into a completed 914 if I just let it sit a little while longer...

If you had the chance to do it all over again concerning the headlights, would you have tried a stock location like the Miata lights or still attempted HID's in the signal pockets?

Keep up the great work, you are a super inspiration for creative minds...

Posted by: neo914-6 Sep 30 2007, 09:12 PM

Thanks. I'm sure there are iterations like yours that can build on my successes and failures...

The guys in Norway now have two project 914 Audis but have their own challenges.

Yes, I like that the pods have more purpose than turn indication.

Posted by: neo914-6 Sep 30 2007, 09:21 PM

This eBay http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&viewitem=&item=290155352715 was less than $40, seems to work well. I only needed the rear lines on the trailing arm but can now replace all the lines later.


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Posted by: neo914-6 Oct 1 2007, 01:05 AM

Hacked up a Boxster pedal assembly. It's interesting how much of it is not manufactured for dissassembly. The pivot was welded in so I had to use the closest diameter bolt and ream out the plastic bushings. It will be close to make it fit in the car where the gas tank is the obstacle, otherwise I'll return to the combo 914/964 pedal assembly with the 986 clutch cyl.


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Posted by: neo914-6 Oct 1 2007, 01:10 AM

Never crossed my mind, I'd probably get $.10 on the dollar

Posted by: neo914-6 Oct 5 2007, 06:35 PM

Also, I've promised it to my wife for her graciousness, understanding, and extreme patience, in putting her through this project.

Posted by: neo914-6 Oct 5 2007, 06:36 PM

Yayyyyy,

The Wife

Posted by: turboman808 Oct 5 2007, 06:56 PM

Didn't you make turbsignals with HIDs in them? If you switching to the other lights I will be happy to take the HIDS off your hands.

Posted by: neo914-6 Oct 6 2007, 01:38 AM

note to myself: log off computer when not present...

Posted by: Rand Oct 6 2007, 01:24 PM

Posted by: Andyrew Oct 6 2007, 11:33 PM

Good to see you still working hard on it felix!!

Tell the wife hi! lol

Posted by: neo914-6 Oct 12 2007, 11:40 PM

Big thanks for FREE parts from:

Bruce (GWN7) for custom headlight delete front hood seal
Eric Shea for custom V-caliper pad spring brkts
Kevin (rhodyguy) for stock t-bars
Stu (sled9146) for ebrake pins and screws
Fiid for offering use of his balljoint tool
Mueller for lots of support and miscl parts

not to mention:
Jed at Silverstar Recycling for a "Jason" discount on Boxster shifter cables and clutch lines

Posted by: neo914-6 Oct 12 2007, 11:46 PM

modified aluminum Boxster Y pipes:


welded both large diameter flared end and repositioned smaller ends:


final configuration painted:

Posted by: neo914-6 Oct 12 2007, 11:54 PM

shortened and reinforced Boxster clutch pedal (stock rubber pad fits too):

Posted by: neo914-6 Oct 12 2007, 11:59 PM

Rich Johnson rebuilt Koni struts and Boxster calipers refinished
pics before Rich shipped them:









http://members.rennlist.com/sjanes/brakes.htm

Posted by: iamchappy Oct 13 2007, 01:08 AM

Posted by: neo914-6 Oct 19 2007, 02:28 AM

Bad news, one of the struts was damaged in transit (FedEx Ground). It appears the caliper is gouged and after he recieves it, Rich will need to file a claim, possibly find another caliper, repaint it, etc. which will take more time...

Posted by: neo914-6 Oct 30 2007, 03:16 PM

New Externally Adjustable Koni inserts arrived, this front suspension is pricey! Not sure if I want to fill them with coolant...

Posted by: Wes V Oct 30 2007, 04:50 PM

"fill them with coolant"???

Wes

Posted by: neo914-6 Oct 30 2007, 05:19 PM

http://www.tech-session.com/kb/index.php?article=7 or nothing at all...

Posted by: Wes V Oct 30 2007, 06:46 PM

Doh!

After reading that write-up I know what you are talking about. It's the fluid that transfers heat from the cartridge to the outer metal body of the strut.

In the article, he comments on Koni making a recommendation.

That being the case, you should follow EVERY recommendation of Koni in order make sure the warranty stays in effect.

Wes

Posted by: neo914-6 Nov 13 2007, 02:06 PM

I spoke to Paragon Products and they concur with Rich that I don't need to fill the struts with coolant unless I was racing the car. Thanks to Mark (914Sixer) for the strut dust covers and to Rich for powdercoating them!

Finally finished Por-15 coating the inner fenders because the bare metal had minor surface rust. What a dirty job, my pants and shirt were leopard spotted but fortunately I didn't get any on my face and it's a good thing my hair is black. The pictures don't fully show McMark's superb seam welding of http://allshops.org/cgi-bin/community/communityalbums.cgi?ownerid=9990093068868 rear fenders and the front fenders that McMark hammer formed.



Right strut mounted, I should be getting the left side soon so I can roll the car again. FYI, I was working with Rich to get custom "neo914" decals for the calipers but his supplier was unable or unwilling to make them.



I finally found 911 axles that will work but may need to shorten the left side unless I find http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=77832. I must first determine the http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=78716 of the trailing arms as it dictates their length. Does anyone know how much CV joints should be able to move in and out (if any) the length of the axle?

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=80773&hl=

Posted by: Phoenix 914-6GT Mar 10 2008, 10:58 PM

How do cool threads like this get burried so far away? We need updates

Posted by: neo914-6 Mar 20 2008, 07:02 PM

Lack of updates = no progress and many excuses. Cold wet weather, no garage, new job search, lack of extra cash, family priorities, and a new Mercedes project to replace my beloved wreck, are the primary reasons. The weather, motivation, and a "green" job possibility are improving and so will progress...

Posted by: neo914-6 Jul 24 2008, 04:10 AM

Knut tells me he is legally unable to proceed with the Audi 2.7tt conversion in Norway and will instead go 3.6L Porsche and Wevo 915. This means I will still be the only one with this conversion unless Sonu finds time from his son and business deals...

I am making progress on the suspension: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=86294

and e-brake http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=86306

next is engine removal to sort out the clutch, install the Foley ss fuel lines, and Audi wiring..

Posted by: SGB Jul 24 2008, 07:56 AM

"Doctor Felixstien, I presume?"

Alright! Good to see this back.

Posted by: neo914-6 Jul 27 2008, 11:23 PM

More like Dr. Felivingston I presume?

much better...

Posted by: Wes V Jul 28 2008, 08:23 AM

Felix;

What is the current status on getting the car running?

Is Sonu the individual that had a 1.8t (running for a couple weeks) that has decided to convert to the 2.7t?

Wes

Posted by: neo914-6 Jul 28 2008, 02:09 PM

Wes,

Most of my to do list is still unfinished due to ...many things. My strategy is not "just running" as I want to properly mount all the components. The wiring is the most daunting as I want to retain the stock Audi instrumentation. I either identify and strip out the wiring that I don't need or try to route the full harness into the car, likely through the heater duct. Modifying wiring may affect other parts from operating which by the way is not one of my strengths. I also need to remove the drivetrain and then refurbish the engine compartment which will be a lengthy and dirty task. Currently I'm taking it step by step. I do have a shared goal and competition (for a cheap bottle of wine) with another conversion pioneer (Boxster) to have our cars done by next year's WCC. Admittedly we "commited" last year so maybe we need to up the ante.

I see Sonu occasionally (with Mueller) and he has little progress since he picked up the 2.7t drivetrain and my parts 2.7t to build a 400hp+ version. He was also tube framing it with a-arm suspension.

Thanks for your patient interest...

Posted by: rufio0205 Jul 29 2008, 08:28 AM

Has anyone tried this headlight conversion kit?
If you have...what did it take time wise? and how much modification to the car or headlight bucket area or new headlight conversion parts took place?
Pictures?
I cant stand the pop ups....
ps. sorry to hijack

Posted by: neo914-6 Jul 29 2008, 12:22 PM

I do have a headlight thread but have posted options here as well. Nice to know someone is creating a fixed light option for the Miata. You should ask them to adapt a kit for the 914 buckets...

Posted by: neo914-6 Aug 4 2008, 05:06 AM

Hope I got it right:

911 struts, http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=76124&hl=rubber, plated hardware, Koni adjustable inserts:



metal dust cover (thanks to 914sixer Mark)



top nut and top support washer, not much thread left:



this would not fit on top of the dust cover so I left it out:

Posted by: Andyrew Aug 5 2008, 01:20 AM

Felix hows it going? Glad to see you still at work on the Neo! My v8 has taken a back door to my A4... its now sporting a APR Stage 3 kit w/ a FMIC and a bunch of other gizmo's... I should be at 330-350 w/ water injection on my race file.. and about 300hp on pump.. I've been autoxing it and kicking my dads butt ! New Gtech shows me doing 1.04 sustained G's on a skidpad with Bridgestone RE01-R's.

What all is left on the Neo? Is the engine in a running state or what is needed for that?

:wavy:

Posted by: neo914-6 Aug 5 2008, 03:59 AM

jeeez, I splained the sitiation to Wes on the previous page!

yeah, one of my lack of progress excuses is my other ride, Mercedes Coupe. I finally installed the Recaro C's and transferred parts from my RENNTech wreck. Darn things still has a starting issue I can't figure out...

Posted by: rufio0205 Aug 5 2008, 07:17 AM

apparently. after doing some research....I have found out that in in the state of florida...where i live... it is illegal to convert a car from popups to stand alone stationary lights...and vise a versa...
I can't do a headlight conversion...unless i just hope that no cop ever knows what my car is and cant tell stock from modified.. haha

just a heads up on that.

Posted by: Wes V Aug 5 2008, 10:36 AM

Felix;

We are not trying to rag on you about not working fast enough on the project!

I've looked at just about every string that you have written on the car (very good reading), but it's always seemed aggravating that there isn't one place where us interested guys can get a feel how the project as a whole is coming along.

(I'm interested due to wanting to also use an Audi 2.7t in my 914)

Maybe a good answer (to get us off your back) would be to add a "status" comment in your blog.

Wes

Posted by: neo914-6 Aug 6 2008, 08:47 PM

Was this not detailed enough?
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s=&showtopic=37568&view=findpost&p=950873
I'm working on a more detailed list but it's taking...........time!

I thought you were planning a 2.8 NA. I would not recommend the 2.7tt, it fits my theme but few others...

Posted by: neo914-6 Aug 6 2008, 08:50 PM

I'll look out for those Florida police! I researched CA vehicle code in the headlight thread and couldn't find anything illegal. Maybe I didn't look close enough...

Posted by: kerensky Aug 7 2008, 09:03 AM

Actually, it's probably not legal in any state. The law has a minimum height requirement for headlights, and IIRC one reason the 914 was designed with pop-ups was to lift the headlights up into a legal height range. Can't be sure without measuring, or at least going to research some figures, but I'd wager that the conversion lights would be mounted too low to be legal.

Of course, in some places you may not get hassled much. It's kind alike smoked taillights - those are illegal in most states, but there are places where you'll never get a second glance over 'em. Then go to a different town and cops will pull a 180 and chase you down to ticket you for them.

Posted by: mikez Aug 7 2008, 09:21 AM

Mark that minimum AND MAXIMUM heights.....that's to keep the monster trucks from burning out your retinas.

Posted by: watsonrx13 Aug 7 2008, 12:11 PM

That's not a law here if FL, if you've got a 4x4, it's got to be big....

Besides, when I drive, the big boy's light go right over my top....

-- rob

Posted by: neo914-6 Aug 7 2008, 02:15 PM

Chad,

Thanks for the concern. As stated in my headlight thread, mine ARE within the min/max height and should satisfy the light intensity requirement. The only areas I lack is having the ability for high and low beams and the pre-production covers having 0 distortion. I doubt an officer would take the time to question their legality because they "look" factory. It is a risk (low in my assessment) and anyone considering this should be willing to accept any consequences.

A friend, Chris Julian had his headlights in the AIR bumper/airdam (obviously too low) that attracted alot of attention but was never questioned about them.

Posted by: SirAndy Aug 7 2008, 03:25 PM

You can safely cut off one section on the rubber stops to give you a bit more shock travel ...
Andy

Posted by: rufio0205 Aug 7 2008, 09:00 PM

i dont see why they would have a problem with replacing them if they become more efficient. the guy who told me it was illegal to have fixed lights soon there after told me to buy a pair of European H4 lights and just replace the bulbs. hahaha
the european ones don't fall into the requirements of the law...hahahha.

i'd rather do the headlight conversion than a bulb replacement. pop up is ugo. imho

that and they aren't aerodynamic friendly.

Posted by: neo914-6 Aug 7 2008, 10:44 PM

Thanks Andy, didn't think of that! It was a bit of a pain pulling up the short shaft through the bushing halves.

Glad you could represent the "world" at the shoot out. I almost rode with Mueller. We laughed because there are 0 pictures of him like he's been excommunicated.

Posted by: microsa Jan 25 2009, 01:17 PM

Anything further since Aug 2008? Just today found this build thread and am absolutely flabbergasted!!!

Posted by: neo914-6 Jan 25 2009, 01:51 PM

Hey thanks for visiting, I hope "flabbergasted" is a good thing

Sorry for the lack of progress. The underlying purpose of this project was to demonstrate skills that I would allow me to return to the automotive industry. My goal, Tesla Motors never panned out and there are so few other automotive opportunities in the SF Bay Area.

I've been focused on finding a more creative design job but now I just need to find a job so I can fund the completion of this project or sell it altogether. In retrospect I could use the nearly $50k I spent so far but this project was (is) a blast...

Posted by: marks914 Jan 25 2009, 02:11 PM

Felix,
We had a big shot director go over to Tesla last summer, and he is unemployed now. He took a pretty big risk and left a geally good job to go over there. I think the Tesla guys are figuring out its harder to build a car than they thought.
Another avenue for you could be some "freelance contract". we have a few people who are contract, they are their own contract house, they make more, the comapny pays less and everyone is happy

Mark

Posted by: SilverBullet Aug 14 2009, 08:19 AM

Man I haven't looked at this thread in YEARS! So awesome!!!!!! I need to visit soon.

Posted by: germanv82000 Aug 14 2009, 11:06 AM

I too stumbled onto Neo's page today long after the daily looks. Still and will continue to be a trendsetter. Got much inspiration over the years, thanks Felix. Scott P.

Posted by: HUBBSTER Nov 1 2009, 10:02 AM

I'm just getting back into 914s and found your car on Cardomain

Thats an amazing amount of work, I'm sure it must have cost you at least $1000

I'm thinking more of an LS3 conversion but modernizing it with new AC, Nav,

I'd like to redo the interior w lots more carbon fiber

Do you have any more photos of your finished interior ?

What are those door panels from and how much modifying was involved ?

Thanks

Posted by: DAMMNN Jan 14 2011, 08:16 PM

the Lexus Flagship Hybrid, their top of the line Ls 600 IS equiped with L.E.D. HEADLIGHTS!!!! I believe they are now coming on in the newer Mercedes and Supercars as well. L.E.D.'s ARE being used as headlights! Check it out...

Posted by: John1180 Mar 19 2013, 07:32 PM

Hey Neo, any updates on your car? I'd be interested in your headlight setup, did you ever do any more development on it? Any more of your lenses available? John

Posted by: dfelz Mar 19 2013, 10:54 PM

Just read through the thread, this is definitely one of the coolest 914s i have ever seen, please tell me it is still around!! Would love to seem some more pictures, great work Felix!!!

Posted by: ruby914 Nov 22 2013, 04:24 PM

Felix? come back to the garage time to check the oil.

Posted by: Mike Bellis Nov 22 2013, 11:10 PM

Why did I never read this thread before?

I feel like I reinvented the wheel...

Did this car ever get running?

Posted by: McMark Nov 22 2013, 11:13 PM

Made it to SEMA, but never moved under its own power AFAIK.

Posted by: Andyrew Nov 22 2013, 11:29 PM

Felix hasn't touched it much. Electrical isn't his forte and I think that's where he's stopped on the car.

Posted by: Mike Bellis Nov 22 2013, 11:59 PM

I could have it running very quickly...

Posted by: Maltese Falcon Nov 23 2013, 02:18 AM

Felix's 914 was a big hit at SEMA that year, we were honored to have a space reserved for the car , sponsored by us (MSDS, inc.). You rarely see a 914 at a SEMA show.
Maybe if he gets his running for the 2014 show he can park it next to our showpiece.
Marty

Posted by: DiverX Nov 23 2013, 07:30 PM

The Neo 914 is part of my inspiration - going with the Aero 994 kit from Better Bodies but will be redone in metal vs fiberglass plus adding some other touches like 996 intake vents in front of the rear fenders.

The Neo 914 is unique and mine will be unique too - just wish I didn't have to wait so long for it - a lot of work left to do.

Posted by: mikesmith Nov 24 2013, 01:39 PM

That's kinda sad; electrical is the easy part. All that metalwork, fab, paint, finishing and project management ... those are hard.

Someone needs to pick it up and finish it. Hopefully now that Tesla are on the up again, Felix has another chance at his dream as well.

Posted by: Chris H. Nov 24 2013, 03:02 PM

I dunno Mike, do you have any experience with electrical wiring or Audi conversions? What we need here is an electrician with an Audi conversion car, preferably one with some recent provenance (awards, etc).

Man you guys have to meet!

Posted by: Mike Bellis Nov 24 2013, 03:59 PM

I just "pinged" Felix on Linkedin. See if he will update us all...

Posted by: Mueller Jan 27 2015, 10:39 AM

Ever hear back from Felix?

It's been a few years since I heard from him, I know he applied for a position at my place of employment yet talked to him only once after his interview and nothing else.

I too would love to see this car up and driving around....

Posted by: csdilligaf May 24 2016, 02:11 PM

I sure would like to see how things have gone on this build since the Sema Show. I made the choice to start a build with the 2.7TT and Cayman S 6 speed and now looking for insight as to what all it took to finish it off. I want to go this route in particular because the engine and trans bolt together without an adapter, Keep it German and the power should be ideal. I am in the process of reading the entire thread but just the first browsing over it I did not see what was used for the Flywheel/Clutch package. Would it be part Porsche/part Audi?

Posted by: csdilligaf May 26 2016, 06:22 PM

Well I went and got a 2.7T. I had planned on using the 2014 Cadillac 3.6L V6 with 340 HP I already have but after seeing this thread and another of a Boxster with an Audi 2.7TT I just have to keep the German theme. I called 304 Motorsports and looks like they have everything that I could possibly need which is better than the parts and tuning I could find for the Caddy V6. I just wish I knew what Felix meant in his one post about not recommending the 2.7T to another forum member. Maybe I'll find out on my own?

Posted by: Mueller May 26 2016, 07:20 PM

Felix still updates his Facebook page, I just got a message saying he changed or updated a picture, no idea if he still has his car or not. I need to reach out to him.

Posted by: Andyrew May 26 2016, 07:37 PM

He still has it. I spoke to him a couple months ago. He is thinking of getting back on it sometime but he has been focused on his job and family.

Posted by: RobW May 27 2016, 07:59 AM

Does he need a 914 intervention? That car needs to see the light of day.

Posted by: Mike Bellis May 27 2016, 09:43 AM

I know that my 1.8T clutch and flywheel fit my 6 speed and 5 speed. I would assume the 2.7 is similar. A 2.7 would be fun but I've found that my 1.8 has more power then my tires can hold. I think if I went 2.7 I would need twin turbos. Or upgrade to a 4.2 with twin turbos...

Posted by: Andyrew May 27 2016, 10:35 AM

The 2.7's are making great power and boost response on single turbo's. Your also able to keep the boost levels much lower with a single and still make great power.

That being said its a solid 150lbs heavier than the 4 cylinder 1.8.


I am sure Felix used the stock clutch/flywheel as nothing special is required. The Porsche trani will work just fine.

I am running the S4 clutch/PP combo with a supposedly HD package but we will see. You have to run a custom flywheel to make it work on the 1.8t the RA4 flywheel made by ECS tuning.

Posted by: csdilligaf May 28 2016, 12:44 PM

So the clutch disk has the same spline as a Boxster S G87.2XX main shaft? The other thing I was wondering is if the shaft is the right length and diameter to mate nicely with the pilot bearing in the flywheel.

Posted by: Mike Bellis May 28 2016, 01:16 PM

Yes they work perfect. The Boxster has a larger diameter clutch but the shaft is identical. Audi manufactured the first generation Boxster 5 speed. I think the 6 speed was originally borrowed from Audi as well/ My Boxster S 6 speed is made by Getrag.

I'm running a LUK clutch with a lightened flywheel for a 1.8T. At 325hp it grips just fine. No issues. I previously ran a SPEC stage 4 clutch which also worked fine but it way pricey compared to the LUK.