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914World.com _ 914World Garage _ Okay, so how do i get the valve cover off
Posted by: bd1308 Oct 18 2005, 01:29 PM
anybody got a trick to doing this?
I dont want to take the HEs off if I don't have to....
is there a trick to popping the valve cover with a screwdriver with the HEs on?
I tried popping the sides, but that didnt work out?
b
Posted by: Mueller Oct 18 2005, 01:32 PM
remove the H/E????
are you on crack??? 
you should be able to use a screwdriver, a wrench etc.....to provide leverage to pull the wire down....try the middle of the cover....
Posted by: bd1308 Oct 18 2005, 01:33 PM
listen....
look at what i said...
a wrench might work...not much space though....
Posted by: Brando Oct 18 2005, 01:33 PM
No trick, just the normal proceedure.
Reach down from above with a thick flat-bladed screwdriver THROUGH the bailwire... Pry DOWNWARD and the bail wire should slide down to the bottom of the valve cover. Then stick your screwdriver tip into the little hole on the corner of the valve cover and pull away from the head. Tada! It's off.
PS: Listen to what Mueller said... no need to take the HEs off.
Posted by: bd1308 Oct 18 2005, 01:36 PM
| QUOTE (Brando @ Oct 18 2005, 01:33 PM) |
| No trick, just the normal proceedure. Reach down from above with a thick flat-bladed screwdriver THROUGH the bailwire... Pry DOWNWARD and the bail wire should slide down to the bottom of the valve cover. Then stick your screwdriver tip into the little hole on the corner of the valve cover and pull away from the head. Tada! It's off. PS: Listen to what Mueller said... no need to take the HEs off. |
maybe my screwdriver is too big....
I have another one here....
b
Posted by: Mueller Oct 18 2005, 01:41 PM
| QUOTE (bd1308 @ Oct 18 2005, 12:33 PM) |
| listen.... look at what i said... a wrench might work...not much space though.... |
I know there is not much space....you need to figure out how to get the wire to lift up and over the protrutions of the valve cover in order to get the wire to swing down.....
a wrench "will" work if you pick the right size and angle....how sad to be out-smarted by a valve cover
Posted by: markb Oct 18 2005, 01:42 PM
You can always take a shop rag, loop it around the bail, grab both ends, & pull down. 
Posted by: Mueller Oct 18 2005, 01:44 PM
| QUOTE (markb @ Oct 18 2005, 12:42 PM) |
| You can always take a shop rag, loop it around the bail, grab both ends, & pull down. |
i've used a claw hammer before as well....just make sure your head/face is out of the way when the wire finally comes loose
the handle works good for putting the wire back on.....
Posted by: SLITS Oct 18 2005, 01:44 PM
| QUOTE (markb @ Oct 18 2005, 12:42 PM) |
| You can always take a shop rag, loop it around the bail, grab both ends, & pull down. |
that is the method.....pull a shop rag thru the bail and jerk.
Posted by: jsteele22 Oct 18 2005, 01:53 PM
| QUOTE (markb @ Oct 18 2005, 12:42 PM) |
| You can always take a shop rag, loop it around the bail, grab both ends, & pull down. |
Hey, I like that ! Gonna try it next time.
Posted by: nebreitling Oct 18 2005, 01:56 PM
what year is your car? the 75-76 HEs can be a PITA, but there is still room to work around them. just gotta get creative.
Posted by: bd1308 Oct 18 2005, 01:57 PM
| QUOTE (Mueller @ Oct 18 2005, 01:41 PM) | ||
I know there is not much space....you need to figure out how to get the wire to lift up and over the protrutions of the valve cover in order to get the wire to swing down..... a wrench "will" work if you pick the right size and angle....how sad to be out-smarted by a valve cover |
it's too damn hot outside, i'm on gravel, and i have oil dripping on my face and mouth.
plus my friend was bitching about the heat....
b
Posted by: Cap'n Krusty Oct 18 2005, 01:58 PM
If the bails are installed upside down, and you can't believe how many I see that way, the cover won't come off without removing the bail. I insert a medium sized screwdriver from the bottom, and pry the bail out and down. Installation is the reverse. As you view the bail, it should dish upward from the pivot point. The Cap'n
Posted by: bd1308 Oct 18 2005, 02:00 PM
VW symbol upside-down, correct cap'n?
b
Posted by: SLITS Oct 18 2005, 02:03 PM
| QUOTE (bd1308 @ Oct 18 2005, 12:57 PM) |
| it's too damn hot outside, i'm on gravel, and i have oil dripping on my face and mouth. plus my friend was bitching about the heat.... b |
Ahhh...the taste of decayed dinos
Welcome to the wonderful world of car repair and maintenance.One key......keep your mouth shut and wear safety glasses
Tell your friend if he can't take the heat to go home.
Posted by: Cap'n Krusty Oct 18 2005, 02:10 PM
| QUOTE (bd1308 @ Oct 18 2005, 12:00 PM) |
| VW symbol upside-down, correct cap'n? b |
Emblem? I never looked. The cover goes on with the tab at the bottom, the little vent looking thing at the top. It's the BAILS that you MUST have on right side up. The Cap'n
Posted by: Mr.C Oct 18 2005, 02:27 PM
Posted by: jsteele22 Oct 18 2005, 03:09 PM
| QUOTE (bd1308 @ Oct 18 2005, 12:57 PM) |
| it's too damn hot outside, i'm on gravel, and i have oil dripping on my face and mouth. plus my friend was bitching about the heat.... b |
Maybe give it a try in the middle of the night ?
Posted by: Joe Ricard Oct 18 2005, 04:46 PM
| QUOTE (Cabasa @ Oct 18 2005, 12:27 PM) |
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Posted by: Aaron Cox Oct 18 2005, 04:54 PM
| QUOTE (bd1308 @ Oct 18 2005, 12:36 PM) |
| maybe my screwdriver is too big.... |
no one ever told me my driver was too big
Posted by: bd1308 Oct 18 2005, 05:01 PM
ya'll crack me up....
Cap'n the VW emblem goes upside down...looks like M something
M
^ <-----that's what it looks like
anyway, all valves are adjusted....lost one pair of jeans and a mercedes shirt.....
Now i still have some tap tap noise, which i think is due to me being conservative with the valve adjust.....now on to carb fine tuning.
OH and apparently the head sucked in the gasket...it was wierd....and on the other side it moved pretty far over.....so there's my oil burning problem....
AA, my driver was simply, too big......
thanks guys!
b
Posted by: Aaron Cox Oct 18 2005, 05:02 PM
i pull HE's to change my alternator belt.
Posted by: bd1308 Oct 18 2005, 05:03 PM
| QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ Oct 18 2005, 05:02 PM) |
| i pull HE's to change my alternator belt. |
yeah funny
Posted by: Headrage Oct 18 2005, 05:10 PM
| QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ Oct 18 2005, 04:02 PM) |
| i pull HE's to change my alternator belt. |
Really? I've only needed to do it when I am trying to fix my leaky tail light housings.
Posted by: bd1308 Oct 18 2005, 05:12 PM
flame away...i'm off to get cleaned off.
Posted by: Aaron Cox Oct 18 2005, 05:16 PM
| QUOTE (Headrage @ Oct 18 2005, 04:10 PM) | ||
Really? I've only needed to do it when I am trying to fix my leaky tail light housings. |
i had to cut a hole in my firewall to get the headlights to work too!
Posted by: SLITS Oct 18 2005, 05:37 PM
| QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ Oct 18 2005, 04:16 PM) | ||||
i had to cut a hole in my firewall to get the headlights to work too! |
pop 'em up with yer tootsies huh?
Posted by: Grimstead Oct 18 2005, 05:57 PM
| QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ Oct 18 2005, 04:16 PM) |
| i had to cut a hole in my firewall to get the headlights to work too! |
How dumb are you????
Everyone knows you just need to put the fuild in that channel between the seats! Duh!
Posted by: Aaron Cox Oct 18 2005, 05:59 PM
| QUOTE (Grimstead @ Oct 18 2005, 04:57 PM) | ||
How dumb are you???? Everyone knows you just need to put the fuild in that channel between the seats! Duh! |
doh! so your telling me i can check my blinker fluid from inside too?
Posted by: dwillouby Oct 18 2005, 06:21 PM
You guys are funny. You should not ride him so much. hes a young guy learning to work on his car.
Back in my high school days my friend said he was going to change the oil in his Chevy. Stopped by a little later to check on his progress. Found that he had removed the oil pan still full of oil! I asked didnt you see the drain plug? He said what is a drain plug?
When you stop learning its time to die
David
Posted by: Twystd1 Oct 18 2005, 06:54 PM
Bumper bolts are easy..
Using:
Telekinesis.. Ask Aaron how... he's writing a book about it with a forward from Slits.
MattR
Posted by: SGB Oct 18 2005, 07:04 PM
Miles,
have you tried a Dremel?
I DON'T speak from experience on this, just speculation....those little Dremels will cut through everything....
Posted by: bd1308 Oct 18 2005, 07:32 PM
why the hell ASK me to sell my car...?
I'm keeping it AND the parts car and there's nada anyone can do....
everybody needs to chill out...stop ribbing me.
If you all don't want me here, i'll go to pelican....this is rediculous (sp)
oh and before I get a mouthfull from you-know-who....
YES I KNOW THE ABOVE WORD IS SPELLED WRONG. i'm not a english major.
it could be worse, I could not give a damn and not work at anything and have you all pay for my living.....
b
Posted by: Headrage Oct 18 2005, 07:55 PM
| QUOTE (bd1308 @ Oct 18 2005, 06:32 PM) |
| i'll go to pelican... |
Really?
Posted by: bd1308 Oct 18 2005, 07:57 PM
| QUOTE (Headrage @ Oct 18 2005, 07:55 PM) | ||
Really? |
fine.
see ya all
I guess i'll see some of you all at FFC if I end up actually making it.
Posted by: jd74914 Oct 18 2005, 08:17 PM
damn, did he really leave 
Posted by: dlo914 Oct 18 2005, 08:31 PM
| QUOTE (bd1308 @ Oct 18 2005, 11:57 AM) | ||||
it's too damn hot outside, i'm on gravel, and i have oil dripping on my face and mouth. plus my friend was bitching about the heat.... b |
that sounds better than the rainy weather we're getting in SoCal
Posted by: Grimstead Oct 18 2005, 09:28 PM
| QUOTE (bd1308 @ Oct 18 2005, 06:57 PM) | ||||
fine. see ya all I guess i'll see some of you all at FFC if I end up actually making it. |
Don't go!
Just tell us to F off and get over it. I know for a fact that the majority of the guys in the post are just goofing off and it has nothing to do with you personally. I myself hear it from Aaron all the time.
So in the memorable words of Gandhi "Don't hate the playa, hate the Game"
Posted by: Aaron Cox Oct 18 2005, 09:51 PM
| QUOTE (Grimstead @ Oct 18 2005, 08:28 PM) | ||||||
Don't go! Just tell us to F off and get over it. I know for a fact that the majority of the guys in the post are just goofing off and it has nothing to do with you personally. I myself hear it from Aaron all the time. So in the memorable words of Gandhi "Don't hate the playa, hate the Game" |
werd.
Britt. chill out. look at all the ribbing i get.... hey, at least people in canada dont think your gay......
take a chill pil and have at it right back.
its funny. LAUGH
Posted by: Mr.C Oct 18 2005, 10:29 PM
Lets all take a lesson from Earl.......karma. I made my own list, #126 made fun of Britt. 
Posted by: Grimstead Oct 18 2005, 10:38 PM
| QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ Oct 18 2005, 08:51 PM) |
| hey, at least people in canada dont think your gay...... |
I owe you for that one
Posted by: Aaron Cox Oct 18 2005, 10:39 PM
| QUOTE (Grimstead @ Oct 18 2005, 09:38 PM) | ||
I owe you for that one |
a sierra nevada is proper pennance
Posted by: Alison Baker Oct 18 2005, 10:51 PM
| QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ Oct 18 2005, 08:39 PM) | ||||
a sierra nevada is proper pennance |
I would recommend something stronger then that Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaron......would n't you say so ????
Posted by: Aaron Cox Oct 18 2005, 10:52 PM
| QUOTE (Alison Baker @ Oct 18 2005, 09:51 PM) | ||||||
I would recommend something stronger then that Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaron......would n't you say so ???? |
<---- bad memories 
Posted by: Alison Baker Oct 18 2005, 10:58 PM
Martin and I WILL BUY YOU SOME Of these aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaron ..................Yeah Baby
Posted by: Brando Oct 18 2005, 11:53 PM
Wow Britt, way to take a joke.
Suck it up, crack a few back, and live life.
Posted by: bondo Oct 19 2005, 12:31 AM
| QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ Oct 18 2005, 08:51 PM) |
| Britt. chill out. look at all the ribbing i get.... |
Aaron: Ribbed for your pleasure!
(I don't normally take part in the Aaron bashing, but I couldn't pass that up)
Posted by: Aaron Cox Oct 19 2005, 12:38 AM
| QUOTE (bondo @ Oct 18 2005, 11:31 PM) | ||
Aaron: Ribbed for your pleasure! (I don't normally take part in the Aaron bashing, but I couldn't pass that up) |
best one yet.
Posted by: Brando Oct 19 2005, 12:42 AM
| QUOTE (bondo @ Oct 18 2005, 10:31 PM) | ||
Aaron: Ribbed for your pleasure! |
I heard he was circumsised...
Posted by: Grimstead Oct 19 2005, 08:09 AM
| QUOTE (Alison Baker @ Oct 18 2005, 09:51 PM) | ||||||
I would recommend something stronger then that Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaron......would n't you say so ???? |
That's it!
A man has to put his foot down somwhere and for me it is when (I walk) people start bashing my Beer!
Posted by: Joe Ricard Oct 19 2005, 08:49 AM
Oh man that's wrong. anytime I find your beer in the store I buy ALL of it.
Posted by: SLITS Oct 19 2005, 08:53 AM
| QUOTE (Grimstead @ Oct 19 2005, 07:09 AM) | ||||||||
That's it! A man has to put his foot down somwhere and for me it is when (I walk) people start bashing my Beer! |
Sierra Nevada is for wussies. Cooper's 4X Ale, Toothsheath or Guiness Stout are real fermented adult beverages.
Personally, I prefer "squeeze"................................
Posted by: Grimstead Oct 19 2005, 09:03 AM
We'll see about that....
You have been challenged! 
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