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Posted by: Porsche Rescue Oct 19 2005, 05:09 PM

We have ignition and are near lift off. Rain or shine das Boot will autocross Sunday.
Many thanks to Club member Jeff Hines (sixnotfour) who built a 2.7 engine to replace the Motormeister grenade. The cost of the fresh engine was extremely reasonable. Jeff also supplied some Webers and a flywheel/clutch. He modified the cooler and made a custom metal line to the tank. When I was having trouble tuning it he made a special trip to Portland from north of Seattle and re-jetted the carbs, then went home and mailed me some larger venturis. I can't thank him enough.
I also need to thank JP Stein who loaned me his engine jack, built my shift rod, helped light the fire last month and otherwise held my hand.
Now to the cosmetics:
Here is the way she looked on arrival.


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Posted by: Porsche Rescue Oct 19 2005, 05:11 PM

Three Club members (Craig Laughlin, Gary Chapman and Jeff Hines)
all said "get rid of the negative stripes". So I did.


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Posted by: markb Oct 19 2005, 05:13 PM

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Posted by: Porsche Rescue Oct 19 2005, 05:13 PM

Then I put on her "dancing shoes" (V Racers). Only did one side until I decide if it is going to rain on Sunday.
Frankly, I like the yellow Revolutions better. Does that mean I have a regressive "ricer" gene somewhere in the profile?

Now to the garage to change the venturis.

Posted by: Porsche Rescue Oct 19 2005, 05:13 PM

Forgot the pic


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Posted by: Aaron Cox Oct 19 2005, 05:26 PM

stripes and yellow wheels looked better! smilie_pokal.gif

Posted by: olav Oct 19 2005, 05:28 PM


Way to go. Looking good!

And to the club members that helped, JP Stein and Jeff Hines, you guys rock!!


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Posted by: i love porsche Oct 19 2005, 05:31 PM

looks awesome!!!

i personally liked the stripes...but its great nonetheless!

Posted by: brant Oct 19 2005, 05:31 PM

NICE.

very very nice.
cool.
I'm excited.

hey quite saying nice things about JP. your going to undermine all of the propaganda I've been planting!

good job!

brant

Posted by: Rand Oct 19 2005, 05:37 PM


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Hmm... I like the look of the before better. But congrats on the progress. Really cool to hear about club members pitching in!
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Posted by: Aaron Cox Oct 19 2005, 05:54 PM

nice mudflaps! biggrin.gif

Posted by: Porsche Rescue Oct 19 2005, 06:18 PM

Lesson learned: Don't declare victory until the battle is over. May not be dancing Sunday afterall. Over torqued set screw holding venturi. Gotta big hole. I really didn't feel like it was even snug before it broke. Screws had been locktited in instead of wired. I think the locktite residue may have altered the feel as I tightened. Anyway, now I gotta problem. Superglue, JB weld, new carb!!!
One piece:


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Posted by: Porsche Rescue Oct 19 2005, 06:19 PM

And the other............shit!


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Posted by: Dave_Darling Oct 19 2005, 06:45 PM

Ouch!! Sorry, Jim--no good data on what you "should do". JB weld might hold it; not really sure.

I'd suggest taking a rattlecan to the second set of wheels, though. See if you can match the rest of the yellow close-enough.

I'll echo Miles' sentiment about the nose, too. ohmy.gif

--DD

Posted by: J P Stein Oct 19 2005, 06:46 PM

AUUGGGH........
For one event, Epoxy....the long cure stuff. I've never usd JB weld so I dunno about that.

I'd try globing some on....and on the venturi, pull the bolt first, what ever glue, duct tape to hold till setup, cut a hole in the tape to reinstall the bolt (& safety wire). I hab no idea if this will work sad.gif
The tape should hold it in there if the glue cracks. If it totaly falls out, it could get ugly. Bring extra tape.

Posted by: DrifterJay Oct 19 2005, 06:53 PM

JB weld should work gud....I have had to do BDAR (battlefield damage assessment and repair)....Repaired two holes the size of a dime on an oil pan of an 1114 Humvee.. (6.5 liter single turbo uparmored humvee).....Truck has been rolling good for the past several months no leaks....JB weld can work wonders...so long as you keep everything clean.... biggrin.gif

Posted by: Eric_Shea Oct 19 2005, 07:04 PM

JB Weld

Posted by: boxstr Oct 19 2005, 07:10 PM

Jim I have a set of Webers sitting at CAMP. Your welcome to see if they will work.
CCLINCARBSRUS

Posted by: Porsche Rescue Oct 19 2005, 07:23 PM

Thanks Craig. I'm going to give JB Weld a chance. If it doesn't work I'll take you up on the offer.

Posted by: Bleyseng Oct 19 2005, 07:34 PM

JBWeld and stick the stripes back on!


ditch the nose and install a proper FG front bumper and LE spoiler...... barf.gif

Posted by: Porsche Rescue Oct 19 2005, 08:07 PM

I think I agree with Geoff. Where do I get stripes? Jeff Bowlsby? it was a bitch to get those things off!!

Posted by: goose2 Oct 19 2005, 08:18 PM

Jim...the JB weld will work...get the mating surfaces real clean with acetone first....make big fillets, don't worry about looks.......don't glue in the venturi. I like the yellow wheels better too cool.gif .....the car looks beautiful!

Posted by: Porsche Rescue Oct 19 2005, 10:38 PM

Well, JB Weld it is. Patched it together tonight. Sleeping with my fingers AND legs crosssed.

I'm being punished by Ferdinand's ghost for posting pictures and inviting you guys to take shots. My first mistake was asking my buddies about the side stripes. My wife told me to leave them on. Maybe I'm being punished for not listening to her (as usual).

Posted by: boxstr Oct 20 2005, 12:27 AM

Do petrol and JB work okay together. Leave the stripes off. The car looks great as is.
CCLINCARBSRUS

Posted by: drgchapman Oct 20 2005, 12:56 AM

Crap...I dont' believe it! ohmy.gif
Let me know if I can help.
I'm off on Friday, at your service. biggrin.gif

Missed you at the Cart track tonight. Had a great time with Craig, Ken, and few other of Craig's friends. What a blast! We got run a total of 50 minutes in three sessions. 9hp, felt pretty fast. Good driving lesson. I'm feeling racey for this weekend!

Posted by: drgchapman Oct 20 2005, 12:58 AM

Oh yeah, will JB weld hold gas? It's a pretty good solvent, especially with ultrasonic vibration. Does an engine produce ultrasonic vibration?

Posted by: gregrobbins Oct 20 2005, 12:59 AM

JB Weld should work fine once cured. You can get the stripes from Jeff.

Listen to your innerself: its your car, do any and everything you want to it. Mostly, have fun with it.

Oh yes, always listen to your wife......well maybe not always, mine thinks Miatas are cuter than 914s, and don't I want one of them?

How do you politely say: HELL NO!

Posted by: lagunero Oct 20 2005, 01:07 AM

QUOTE (Porsche Rescue @ Oct 19 2005, 09:38 PM)
Sleeping with my fingers AND legs crosssed.


are you sleeping in Corona tonite? ohmy.gif Wishing you luck!

Posted by: lotus_65 Oct 20 2005, 01:09 AM

has anyone tried http://www.alumaloy.net/

Posted by: Britain Smith Oct 20 2005, 01:26 AM

You guys went karting and didn't invite me...man, I need to get on the Portland cool guy list.

I finally got my lug bolts from Bill so I can mount my AX tires, however I snapped the roll pin in my pedal cluster so I got to drive home from work to other day without a clutch. I picked up a new roll pin today and will install it tomorrow along with the heater. Who knows, maybe I will make it out to play this weekend.

-Britain

Posted by: Bleyseng Oct 20 2005, 07:41 AM

QUOTE (Porsche Rescue @ Oct 19 2005, 07:07 PM)
I think I agree with Geoff. Where do I get stripes? Jeff Bowlsby? it was a bitch to get those things off!!

MikeZ can make em..

Posted by: jasons Oct 20 2005, 10:03 AM

I saw that car on copart.com way back when. It was a victim of the Pittsburgh flood.

Good job bringing it back to life!

BTW I will put my vote in for the neg stripe too.

Posted by: Dave_Darling Oct 20 2005, 10:20 AM

QUOTE (drgchapman @ Oct 19 2005, 10:56 PM)
Missed you at the Cart track tonight. ... We got run a total of 50 minutes in three sessions.

Jesus! I'd be beat to hell after 50 minutes of karting!! Then again, I keep trying to muscle the car around, so my arms get very sore...

That reminds me, I have a "deal" for Tuesdays at GKR... I may just head up there next week...

--DD

Posted by: boxstr Oct 20 2005, 03:16 PM

Gary, sorry to have to inform you that you are "uninvited " to kart racin g with us anymore. Thats what happens when you go to fast. laugh.gif
Way to showem. Lets go again.
CCLINAPEXWHATAPEX

Posted by: Porsche Rescue Oct 20 2005, 04:29 PM

Well, here's the patch......surgical it ain't. Solid enough that it accepted the set screw, snugged tight by hand. Don't laugh at the "daisy chain" wiring job. The screw is wired to the broken piece. If the piece comes out I want to be able to find it hanging there. Haven't done a road test yet. Tomorrow is supposed to be dry so I can get it good and warm before re-tuning the carbs. If I get to that point I should be good to go. Suspect I won't have any trouble knowing if it falls out!


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Posted by: drgchapman Oct 20 2005, 04:35 PM

Looks like I'm good to play golf tomorrow?
Geeez, hope that works. unsure.gif
Can it be welded (real welding) after that JB is done?

Posted by: Porsche Rescue Oct 20 2005, 04:38 PM

Don't think you can weld pot metal. I am optimistic. The stuff is very hard. They claim it can be drilled.

Posted by: drgchapman Oct 20 2005, 04:58 PM

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Don't think you can weld pot metal. I am optimistic. The stuff is very hard. They claim it can be drilled.


Silly me, I thought they were made of aluminum.

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Gary, sorry to have to inform you that you are "uninvited " to kart racin g with us anymore. Thats what happens when you go to fast.  
Way to showem. Lets go again.
CCLINAPEXWHATAPEX


Craig, you missed my lecture after the last heat.....I was working one of the guys to pass right in front of the waiting area and someone taged me from behind, the guy I was passing pinched me into the wall, I was off the racing line to pass......and I ended up in the wall. Then got the lecture for aggressive driving. I'll bring my driving shoes and gloves next time........watch out.

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Posted by: Eric_Shea Oct 20 2005, 07:48 PM

That'll hold.

I sure hope your inner self tells you to take that snowplow off the front.

Posted by: Porsche Rescue Oct 20 2005, 08:12 PM

It does. Going to find a painted steel or fiberglass bumper and paint it yellow. Get an LE air dam. The snow plow does have functional brake cooling ducts. Maybe I can vent through the horn grills.
Going back the the stripes too. Jeff Bowlsby is helping me out there. The car was born an LE and even though heavily modified I want it to be a "Bumble Bee".

Posted by: boxstr Oct 21 2005, 10:11 AM

Gary I admit that the bumping was getting a little out of hand. I think someone was trying to make the passes and not do it cleanly. Does his name begin with Ken?? dry.gif He kept insisting that "I didn't hit you".
I am thinking about going over tonight to race, want to go?
CCLINKARTME

Posted by: Porsche Rescue Oct 21 2005, 05:57 PM

Well the Bumble Bee Racer is back on the road. The carb patch seems to be holding. 70 degrees and sunny in Portland today so she may go to the dance on Sunday in these shoes.........


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Posted by: Porsche Rescue Oct 21 2005, 05:58 PM

Then again, the weather forcast for Sunday is 40% chance of rain, so we may wear these slippers.........


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Posted by: sixnotfour Oct 22 2005, 01:15 AM

Go get em Jim,
Taking the neg stripe was your only option /free, The center stripe is painted.
personnaly I would remove that stripe , put neg stipe back on ,change front bumper/ spoiler.
its easy to say it, its your money I am thinking of spending laugh.gif
Or leave as is with yellow wheels.

Glad the epoxy is working, Drive that thing, 200miles in 3months is not enough, with the great weather youve had. driving.gif

Posted by: Porsche Rescue Oct 22 2005, 09:30 AM

Decisions, decisions.........put the numbers on sail panel when side stripe was in place. Looked good there. Now I think they would be better down low behind the door. Guess I have all winter to figure it all out.

Posted by: Eric Taylor Oct 22 2005, 10:16 AM

looks great jim! I don't know about the strips, it sure does look sexy right now in that portland sun. biggrin.gif
Eric

Posted by: goose2 Oct 22 2005, 10:31 AM

Jim, If you like I can Photoshop some alternative schemes for you. I'd need some good, straight-on side shots in hi-resolutions.

Posted by: Porsche Rescue Oct 22 2005, 10:35 AM

Thanks Randy, but my camera is far from high resolution, cheap 1.3 megapixel Olympus.

Posted by: Jeff Bowlsby Oct 22 2005, 10:37 AM

I really like the look of the car Jim. You have obviously done the "Chambers Treatment" on the paint....it looks liquid...and superb.

I share your idea that because its an LE it should look like an LE, but because it wants to be a race car, it should look like a race car.

I love the center stripe and the Rev wheels, they look well done and adds an exciting racey look to the car while nodding to the LE heritage.

I would add the neg side stripe back on, to match the same yellow you have, and maybe make one other change. The tops of the bumpers...they are so Yellow...Maybe thats ok becasue it should be LOUD....but maybe paint them black to tone down the scheme a little?

Decisions decisions....

Posted by: Porsche Rescue Oct 22 2005, 10:48 AM

Jeff, I like your suggestions. Now that I have it running I can spend the winter focusing on the appearance. Fun.......

Posted by: BEE DRIVEN Oct 30 2005, 06:24 PM

From one LE Bee owner to another. Hi Jim, I am Nick Moskatow I put a few ideas together for you on decal packages, depending on how much of a track car look you want. This first image could be the all out track package.
1. 911 Fuch wheels, yellow painted centers.
2. Jeff Bowlsby's porsche stripe decal.
3. Driver's name decal.
4. USA flag decal.
5. Transparent moving German flag,with number 10.
6. Owners web name Porsche Rescue decal.
7. Sean Lee's 914 Club.com decal.
8. 914 Club Racing decal.


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Posted by: BEE DRIVEN Oct 30 2005, 06:36 PM

1. Removed large moving flag for a small German flag on side.
2. Carry-over wheels with yellow painted centers.
3. All same decals on rocker panel as first image.



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Posted by: BEE DRIVEN Oct 30 2005, 06:52 PM

This image shows that the silver wheel could work on a LE Bee with graphics that relate to silver.
1. Carry-over silver wheels.
2. Web name becomes more important in silver,and yellow (Porsche Rescue) graphics,and silver stripes top,and bottom to relate to the wheels.
3. Solid yellow number 10.
4. Yellow 914 club.com decal on door.


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Posted by: BEE DRIVEN Oct 30 2005, 07:18 PM

This image moves to the yellow side.
1. New number 10 in yellow with red edge.
2. Web name done in yellow.
3. Wheels with yellow centers.


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Posted by: BEE DRIVEN Oct 30 2005, 07:26 PM

Yellow, and silver graphics.


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Posted by: BEE DRIVEN Oct 30 2005, 07:31 PM

Minimal decal package for street,and track.


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Posted by: sixnotfour Oct 30 2005, 07:32 PM

Porsche rescue stripe , great idea

Posted by: BEE DRIVEN Oct 30 2005, 07:51 PM

This image is moving back into the full track graphics.
1. Solid moving German flag.
2. Silver Porsche graphics to match wheels.


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Posted by: BEE DRIVEN Oct 30 2005, 08:12 PM

Well Jim, the ideas are endless. I hope the images show the possibilities,and how to even personalize your car by using your name,and web name as a decal. Well keep up the great work on your LE Bee,and I like your garage from what I could see from the photos you posted.
This last image is another all-out track layout,but with black center wheels to give it a stealth feel.


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Posted by: mharrison Oct 30 2005, 09:20 PM

Personally, I like the IMSA style airdam. But then, it needs side skirts for that to really fit. The airdam would look ALOT different if it was black. Wouldn't stick out nearly as much.

I'd also put the negative side stripes back on. I really liked the look of that.

All in all a VERY nice car! Enjoy!

Posted by: Porsche Rescue Oct 30 2005, 09:28 PM

Bee Driven,

Thank you very much. You have given me much to think about. I may need your help to figure out how to implement.
Then there is the other problem: I'm not a near good enough driver to look so good. If I do very much of that 'ol JP Stein will ride me forever!
The wheels I will be using will be the yellow 5 spoke Revolutions and a silver set for street tires. Selling the six spokes.


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Posted by: Porsche Rescue Oct 30 2005, 09:29 PM

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Posted by: Eric Taylor Oct 30 2005, 10:10 PM

Good call on the wheels jim. Those 5 spokes are beauties. What a cool car I have to say, I would love to get a chance to see it some day.
Eric

Posted by: Eric_Shea Oct 30 2005, 10:28 PM

JB Weld update please...

Posted by: Bruce Allert Oct 31 2005, 08:21 AM

Holy cow James! That is a very stunning car smilie_pokal.gif

I'm envious... really man, I'm envious. Good job beer.gif I wanna see it up close.

Wanna trade for my 30K M edition Miata? drunk.gif

......b

Posted by: Porsche Rescue Oct 31 2005, 08:27 AM

JB Weld is holding strong so far. Doesn't look pretty but I just don't look at it!
No trades this week Bruce, but you never know.

Posted by: Porsche Rescue Oct 31 2005, 04:40 PM

Nick,
Can you work your magic to turn the top of the rear bumper black (part that would be rubber if stock bumper)? I am thinking of Jeff's idea that the bumper tops might be black instead of yellow. I do plan to replace the front with a stock type fiberglass bumper when I can find one. Maybe you could also black out the top the current "snow plow" as well?


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Posted by: Porsche Rescue Oct 31 2005, 04:41 PM

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Posted by: mike_the_man Oct 31 2005, 05:10 PM

Jim,

Are you planning on selling the 6 spoke wheels? How much are you thinking? I may be interested.

And I think the car looks great as is. Understated is always the way to go, in my opinion.


Posted by: Porsche Rescue Oct 31 2005, 06:29 PM

Thanks Mike.
Already sold to a Club member in North Carolina. They were listed on the Club classifieds last week.

Posted by: BEE DRIVEN Nov 2 2005, 12:07 AM

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Nick,
Can you work your magic to turn the top of the rear bumper black (part that would be rubber if stock bumper)? I am thinking of Jeff's idea that the bumper tops might be black instead of yellow. I do plan to replace the front with a stock type fiberglass bumper when I can find one. Maybe you could also black out the top the current "snow plow" as well?

Hi Jim,
I have two front images for you to view. The first one is just painting,and striping the upper of the fiberglass air-dam,and also closingout the openings with a nice mesh to give your front a more quality detail look.
Nick.


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Posted by: BEE DRIVEN Nov 2 2005, 12:20 AM

This second images shows the same paint,and striping,but with added detail of Decals. The snow-plow front does not look so bad anymore. What do you guys think?....... I will post the rear view this wednesday. Jim maybe you could take more photos of the front,and rear of your BEE outside, it would make for better photo retouchs..... Nick


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Posted by: Porsche Rescue Nov 2 2005, 09:55 AM

Your work is fantastic. Miracle of computers! I will post some outside front rear pics today if the rain will stop long enough to take them! Thanks

Posted by: goose2 Nov 2 2005, 10:24 AM

Yes...very nice Nick! I'm afraid you're going to be bombarded with requests for graphics counseling now biggrin.gif The snowplow looks almost good with your treatment, but it would be nice to see a more stock bumblebee type front too.

Posted by: Jeff Bowlsby Nov 2 2005, 02:21 PM

Nick...I am speechless...that is stunning... pray.gif

Posted by: Porsche Rescue Nov 2 2005, 05:43 PM

Nick, here are a couple of pics taken outside. Please work your magic. I really like the front treatment you did, flowing the stripe into the bumper. I am going to try to duplicate it. If it comes out anywhere near as good looking as your work I may just forget replacing the "snow plow".


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Posted by: Porsche Rescue Nov 2 2005, 05:44 PM

Now, what about the rear? Thinking of painting the top "rubber" area black. Other ideas?


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Posted by: BEE DRIVEN Nov 2 2005, 10:26 PM

Hi Jim, great photos of your car! This first image of the rear will match the painting,and striping on the front, but the striping will be difficult to make clean with all the little surface changes.


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Posted by: BEE DRIVEN Nov 2 2005, 10:35 PM

This image tries to create a more forgiving way of making the stripe work without bring it down into the bumper.


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Posted by: Jeff Bowlsby Nov 2 2005, 10:49 PM

Nick...you have a very keen eye...a very tasteful execution. The proposed layout loses all of the incompleteness of the current paint scheme. Not completely sure of the rear scheme yet, but its getting there.

Jim...I vote to keep the 'plow front...with Nicks clever flowing stripe integration, its just radical enough to say "I am a race car" and just refined enough to nod to the cars heritage...

Posted by: SirAndy Nov 2 2005, 10:52 PM

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I vote to keep the 'plow front...with Nicks clever flowing stripe integration, its just radical enough to say "I am a race car" and just refined enough to nod to the cars heritage...

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Posted by: BEE DRIVEN Nov 2 2005, 11:09 PM

QUOTE (bowlsby @ Nov 2 2005, 08:49 PM)
Nick...you have a very keen eye...a very tasteful execution. The proposed layout loses all of the incompleteness of the current paint scheme. Not completely sure of the rear scheme yet, but its getting there.

Jim...I vote to keep the 'plow front...with Nicks clever flowing stripe integration, its just radical enough to say "I am a race car" and just refined enough to nod to the cars heritage...

Thank you Jeff! The rear of the car is a tough one,but Jim maybe the one to pull-off a paint job. This image separates the spoiler stripe even more from the bumper to create other opportunities for graphic break-ups. Jim you should get black vinyl tape in all widths from 1/8 to 2" and tape off your car before going with the paint. When designing cars we do that all the time to work out surfaces. Tape-off the black areas,and add a black vinyl pin stripe,than take photos and see what it will looks like. Low cost,and time .


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Posted by: BEE DRIVEN Nov 2 2005, 11:21 PM

QUOTE (Porsche Rescue @ Nov 2 2005, 03:44 PM)
Now, what about the rear? Thinking of painting the top "rubber" area black.  Other ideas?

Well Jim, I will leave you with this last image for tonight. It's a take off from the third one,but with some decals to give it life. I will come up with a few more in the coming days.
Nick.


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Posted by: drgchapman Nov 3 2005, 06:52 AM

Wow, Nick looks great. The snow plow lives! JIm, Go with the new paint scheme on the front. I like the blended rear stripe into the bumper. Very good looking. Also the custom numbers are way better that the stickies on there now. But, will it make you faster? More yellow=More faster

Posted by: maf914 Nov 3 2005, 07:56 AM

Nick, Nice work. The addition of the black to top of the front air dam and to the rear bumper rubber really lightens the previous bulky appearance.

Jim, Nice car. I too like the look of the yellow Revolutions. I also like the silver street Revolutions. I have black center RFX's on my car, and I sometimes wish I had gone with the silver instead.

Posted by: Porsche Rescue Nov 3 2005, 10:07 AM

Nick, thank you very much. Please continue as you have time. Your suggestion to use tape to "test" the look will be put to use.

Do you have the ability to create and supply some of the graphics (numbers) you have created? Gary seems to think mine are a bit tacky (I do too after seeing yours)!

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