Just talked to Brad and the Korijo Van left LA.
The Van then made it as far as Buttonwillow CA where it blew a head gasket. Its in a shop waiting for the parts to be shipped in from VW. Could be 2 waiting for parts so hang on Dave!
Brad hopes the van still will be there in Novato on Friday so he can drive it up, so keep your fingers crossed.
Geoff
who is driving the van, and how many laps did they get around Buttonwillow before it blew?
Man... this SUCKS BIG TIME ! ! ! ! !
GRRRR!!!!
Jeroen
I think it was "Man of Bronze" who got 2 laps in before it blew. Course record on the second lap too! (for the SCCA Class for POS Vans)
Geoff
Shouldnt the van be warranteed in some way?
I believe in NY used vehicles from dealers get something like a 3 month/3000mile warranty. Doent Cali have somethinglike this?
Still this sucks moose...
Im sure that woman (the seller) will bend over backwards to make this right
Jeez....a blown head gasket, huh?
Seven day Lemon Law in Oreogn, not sure about CA. You can return the vehicle for a full refund.
CCLINBLOWNVILLE
OMG
I owe my first born male.
Seriously. Terrible Two's are terrible
I thought it wasn't happening this week ?? Effin' water cooled
THANK YOU EVERYONE !!!!!!!
this is the worst. if the van can get to novato or near the airport in oak, sj and someone will fly down with me to tag team it back i'll go. first fight out of seatac get the van, have some pancakes and start home . van in sea by 12 pm. no senic byways. partner in puget sound area would work well.
kevin
Lemon Law doesn't usually apply if a vehicle is sold with the disclaimer 'as is'. I went back to the original blocked thread and looked at the ebay ad. It appears there may be something called a 'carfax check' that might apply and I didn't see anything in the ebay material that said 'as is' but, of course, the printed bill of sale may have included such a disclaimer.
I'm sure someone directly involved in the purchase will check those items and reasonably discuss the repair issue with the seller if it becomes necessary.
-Pam aka Toolwench
boy, oh boy. everybody maintain. do not email or bug that woman. someome's ass will wind up in a sling.
kevin
Hey just wondering if the reseller has any liabilty...
If the "as-is" box is checked...... we all now need to get Dave some head....errrrrr head gasket.... head job..... LOL err replace the head gasket on that thing...do a top end rebuild
hmm since the head will be off.... port and polish....
Sheez o-mighty.... the saga that NEVER ends...
Isn't a blown head gasket a very common problem for the water cooled VW vans?
Yep, its like clutch cables in teeners. Always happening at the worst time. The problem is getting the parts as no one local has it (duh!). VW is shipping them in so it can be done.
IF the van is done on time, someone is driving up to SF so Brad can drive it up. He wants to make the Swap & Flare events if he can.
Geoff
I'm pretty sure this is typical. Prolly matainence issues due to the title changed 3 times in 3 months thru 3 different dealers...
"Ain't broke, dont F' wit it" attitude
Did you ever see any of the service records? When was the coolant last serviced?? course that doesn't matter on these vans, its just a problem with ALL of them. Atleast now it won't happened again for awhile.
Geoff
Not my day. After taking the train (yes LA does have mass transit of sorts) to Van Nuys and picking up the Van, I proceeded North to the 1st challenge: Tejon Pass (4144 ft) on I-5. Made it through with no obvious problems; the rest should be easy. Set the cruise control at 72 mph & proceed. Everything OK except the gas gauge/temp gauge go to zero periodically after hitting a bump. Gauge come back after hitting another bump; oh well, I can live with that. About an hour goes by, what's this - the temperature is creeping up a little. Slow down to 60, temp back down. Let's try turning on the heater - temp down some more. OK, better stop & check - hoses pressurized; coolant in the expansion tank. Proceed; temperature Ok for a while; oh no it's starting to go up slowly. Stop again,; looks OK. Go some more; Bang from up front; stop quick. This doesn't look good. Call AAA; send tow truck. Where are you exactly? Good question
Service record stamps in the book stop in 2000 around 67000 mile as I recall. There is an oil change sticker on the windshield about 2000 miles / 3 months back.
Hopefully repairs will be completed Thursday PM or Friday AM. Bakersfield VW dealer promised gasket set in 2 days; two LA dealers didn't have them either.
Sorry for the delay. Damn, even Kowalski didn't have this problem.
YOU ARE THE MAN !!
I will find some way to make this up to you. Everyone.
Welcome to my LUCKY world. I sure miss my road trippin' days.
Planning a trip, soon. w/ the new van
This is a total long-shot but I'm wondering if some parts/labor might be comp'd by VW if they heard the full story of "Dave's Van" ? It would be great publicity for a Bakersfield VW dealer if they stepped up to the plate...
The problem is: we are all running real thin on patience and time. I personally dont have time to drum up "publicity" right now to get the van repaired. It will take the remaining 2k to get it repaired and get me back to SF from SeaTac.
I appreciate the offer to fly down from Seattle and drive it back... but right now that is not the problem..
B
brad, i realise that's not the prob. my reply was a little obtuse. WHEN it's ready i'd come down. big pain for you to do solo. a partner would be nice if only to have someone to talk to if it craps out up in weed. not pot, the town. but the former would be nice if it did. senic side trip to humbolt. KIDDING.
kevin
"have toothbrush, will travel"
Good Gawd! I can't believe all the shit that's happened. It is truely incredible that everything that has been done to help Dave has, somehow, had a "tit get in the ringer!"
One good thing is that whatever has happened it has been overcome.
I feel a responsibility since it was a thread I followed up with after Daves initial request for help.
But, ya know, this has brought us closer together as a club and has let us know what can be done and overcome by a bunch of neurotic car lovers. when the need applies. It's just too bad that there have been many needs getting Daves van & chair.
We will overcome.... this and anything in the future.
Dave... ifyou ever buy a vehicle outta the state of Washington again I'll have Kevin, Chris & Geoff go to your house & pound ouchies all over yer haid
Jest kidding buddy.
bruce
i hope the "blitz" on daves car(914) goes as nicely as jenny's.
kevin
It will if there's enough pizza and beer!
I think Dave deserves a swirly for buying a car outta state myself!!
Geoff
The newest...
Motor is blown , yes, BLOWN
WTF ?!
I just can't win ... I'm crawlin' back into the hole I came from
WTF, alright!
G-damn!
Can anyone share some details please?
cheers,
Jeroen
I heard that the head is cracked and the 2 cylinders on that side are cracked also. That means its time for major work.
Lots of little things are not quite right on the motor, like it was taken apart and put back together a few times recently.
Brad has scored a NEW motor from VW and it will be installed as soon as it gets to Buttonwillow. YEAH BRAD!!!!
So this Van will have a new motor and be dependable. Is that a oxymoron??
Geoff
(I still am going to give you a swirlie when we do the flare party)
This had better be the most reliable van in the US when you get it!
What a PIA. I can't belive the trouble you guys have been having
Hope it all works out good in the end!
If you belive in karma, then there is probably a kilo of weed or something stashed under the seat for you.
dave
I think it needs a 350, or a 3.6.
I'm sorry its not going well
Yes.. screw working on Dave's car... we will just give him noogies all weekend!
I slept like crap last night.
I actually had a f-ing nightmare about Dave's van. I had one about my son too. Weird how things work your way into your sleep.
Regards,
Karl
I'm having dinner with Brad tonight, I'll buy him an Ice Tea for his troubles....hell, I might even spring for refills...LOL
Is someone writing all this down? Would make an interesting story or heck, even a movie
should've ponied up and got that syncro in tacoma with the subaru 6 conv. dave should contact the reporter that did the piece when he was in the times. the whole think would make a great human interest article.
kevin
dave...
you mean the engine is blown, as hole in the block? or just an expression of saying this as the headgasket is blown?
I sure hope it's the head gasket instead the whole frigging engine.....jeez
hang in there, man....we'll figure something out here....
j
No, cracked a head and two cylinders. With the mileage and damage its time to rebuild it is what the mechanic was saying. Might as well get a "new" motor which is what Brad has ordered.
Geoff
I am pissed. I want to let this lady know what she has caused. I place blame on myself, too.
This is my first email to her:
We have a little over 2k left.. probably enough to pay for the labor to install the new engine.
I am opting to go get the van and bring it up here... so I can at least watch the work being done.
Oh.. I noticed several people thought I was getting the engine for free... DENIED. The VW dealership gave me the max discount they could towards the purchase. The engine will come from New Jersey and take 3 days to get here.
If I spend any more time on this.. I'm going to need a wheelchair.. now I get to drive to Buttonwillow with an empty car trailer and haul this PIECE OF SHIT Back. 5 fucking hours one way. I have got news for the 914club.. MY gas is being paid for from the funds as well as my food.
Any objections ?? I'll be more than happy to turn all of this over to anyone who wants it.
I will get/have the van repaired..then Lisa gets a fat bill from me and nice letter from my favorite attorney.
Once again EBAY strikes. You would have thought we learned our lesson.
Rant over. I'm pissed OFF big time.
B
yeah, seriously- screw ebay. It just a wasteland for slummpy people selling crap. I personally have been burned twice on big ticked item's on ebay. It's not worth it. The last ordeal got my account cancled, because I "didn't ship the item" which I have a signed paper showing it was delievered. It's to easy to get involved with the wrong people on there. Lisa is a sterling example of one of these types.
Eric
Did anyone contact Lisa on the blown engine yet?
And if so, what were her comments?
(although I can guess)
cheers,
Jeroen
Did the PPI give any indication of potential engine problems?
unreal..
M
Absolutely pay your gas and food - Brad! You (and others) are definitely deserving more than that with the time and trouble you have gone through.
If the funds get too low then I'm sure we can come up with more to add to the pot - just let us know what the balance is and what is left to do.
Oh yeah, we need pics of you guys giving Dave nuggies when this all gets finished up...
I think Dave should have to flare everyone's cars!
All in favor!?
M
I'll be happy if Dave pays for the beer and pizza at the flare party.
Brad, go ahead and charge the pot for the gas and food to drag the van back to SF. We'll figure something out, damn thing is getting very expensive.
Geoff
i'll ask. how much dough will be invested in this thing? not to include the lift. intenet price for one way to sj/oak is $130, not including add on fees.
kevin
My sincere thanks to all who have put forth effort to make this happen... it's a testament to the quality of people here, and Brad's leadership, that we can rebound when something like this strikes.
-Lawrence
how much mola do we need to do the lift and motor r&r ?
What did you do with LB ?? give us back LB.
I'm better this morning..
We will win.
I havent/wont contact Lisa until the van is ready to go north. I need more time to cool off.
I found out she works from a car lot based at a Shell station (4-5 cars parked in a gas station).
B
I'm hungover... too many nights in a row drinking tequila until the wee hours of the morning.
At some point, I need to gear down.
hind sight is always 20-20. lisa threatened to return the money. (a bluff, in my book, call, let them fold and grab the pot). i'm sure she is rolling on the floor laughing. this whole thing, from the ebay van in penn to present is beyond my comprehension. scream at me if you want, treat me as a leper if that makes you feel better. does anyone think that vans aren't sold in wa?
kevin
Tryan.. the lift is installed. The van and the lift ran us right at 9500$ We had 11.2 to start with. Maybe a couple hundred more. I have some checks that came in this week that havent been "processed".
I was thinking this morning (lookout)
I would like Pam or Doug Robbins to contact Lisa about this. I think Pam and Doug are some of the few level headed people on this board that wouldnt blow up at her like the rest of us would like to.
Pam..Doug ?? what say ye ??
B
I'll call Pam now.
so how much is the replacement engine and install going to run? is this going to be a $16k van?
kevin
I'd be happy to contact Lisa, but first I would suggest:
1. We wait until all the work is done on this vehicle to see what the total damage is.
2. Let me talk to the principal players to find out exactly what happened and who said what.
3. Let us cool-out for a little bit. We have some time to sort this out.
Let's just concentrate on getting Dave his van for now. Brad, I'll call you over the weekend.
Douglas
I just reread that... are you trying to say that I'M not levelheaded enough to work this out?
I'm on the phone with Pam right now. She says sure. Brad, she needs to talk to you to ensure that she has all the details. Do you know what she does for a living? I.T. contract negotioation... and before that it was medical claims negotioation (jousting with lawyers). She's pretty kick-ass at getting what she wants.
Also, it would probably be helpful if everyone stops flipping Lisa off on the BBS. I'm sure that Lisa knows about this board and it's not good for negotioation.
-Rusty
are you kidding? i'm sure she has watched the whole unwind. my guess was that she was a sharp cookie from the get go, and that's a sincere compliment. hi lisa.
kevin
Per Douglas's request, I am closing this topic. Please respect his legal opinion on the matter, and please do not start another topic.
Be assured that news will come as it's available, and wise to post.
v/r
Lawrence
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