Printable Version of Topic

Click here to view this topic in its original format

914World.com _ 914World Garage _ Racing simulators

Posted by: goose2 Dec 12 2005, 01:53 PM

Christmas is coming and my sweetie's gonna get me some racing sim gear and software. Platform is Win XP PC. Is there a good one with 914's? I've got an old Win 98 version of "Need for Speed" but I know there must be way better stuff out there now. How about input devices, wheels, pedals, etc?

Posted by: lapuwali Dec 12 2005, 01:56 PM

Get a wheel/pedal setup, and wait for GT Legends to show up in the Spring. It covers the 70s, and includes the 914, along with other 70s sports and GT cars.

Posted by: Porcharu Dec 12 2005, 02:31 PM

No 914's in it, but find a copy of "grand prix legends" or GPL there is a huge online following for this game . The learning curve for this "game" is steep the cars are hard to drive and slide around alot like a street car (way overpowered street car) does on a track. Most realistic driving feel I have ever played with. It even supports a clutch pedal, and it runs great on a non state of the art pc just fine.

Posted by: blitZ Dec 12 2005, 02:43 PM

According to the website, it's out now.

http://www.gtlegends.com/home_en.php

OOPS

Not out in the US until 2/2006. Looks like it's playable online. If it's good, I'll be setting up a server.

Posted by: Racing916 Dec 12 2005, 02:52 PM

There is a old "Need for Speed" Game that was a special Porsche version and had only porsches and the 914. The 914 was a drag to drive, very unrealistic.

Posted by: Racing916 Dec 12 2005, 02:56 PM

If you go in ebay and type in.

"Need for Speed Porsche Unleashed" you can check it out.

Posted by: mike373 Dec 12 2005, 03:06 PM

I have been playing the GT LEGENDS demo for a little while now........IT ROCKS!!!! It is important to take out lots of the steering sensitivity though. Way too much oversteer. Also......your computer has to be up to par cpu wise, and a decent 256mb video card.

Mike

Posted by: goose2 Dec 12 2005, 07:18 PM

just downloaded the GT Legends demo....pretty cool...now I'll never get away from this computer and my 914 will slowly revert to a pile of rust!

Posted by: trekkor Dec 12 2005, 07:47 PM

I really like Playstation2 and GT4.

Helped me learn Sears and Laguna before actually driving them in the 914.

Very realistic and mostly accurate. The "right" line is rewarded.

KT

Posted by: Spoke Dec 12 2005, 08:19 PM

QUOTE (srbliss @ Dec 12 2005, 03:31 PM)
"grand prix legends" or GPL

I have this game. Real cool, Formula 1 in 1966, before wide tires, electronics, and wings. Keeping the car on the road is real tough. Does good donuts too, leaving rubber on the track too. If you over-rev the engine, it will explode and parts will fly up in the air, along with purple smoke.

Spoke

Posted by: seanery Dec 12 2005, 08:29 PM

QUOTE (Spoke @ Dec 12 2005, 09:19 PM)

QUOTE (srbliss @ Dec 12 2005, 03:31 PM)
"grand prix legends" or GPL

I have this game. Real cool, Formula 1 in 1966, before wide tires, electronics, and wings. Keeping the car on the road is real tough. Does good donuts too, leaving rubber on the track too. If you over-rev the engine, it will explode and parts will fly up in the air, along with purple smoke.

Spoke

I third this recomendation, but out of the box it's not very attractive. There are a TON of mods for this. There is a community much like we have here for this game and keeping it alive.

Posted by: Crazyhippy Dec 12 2005, 09:05 PM

Hehehe.. i love free demos

http://www.download.com/Grand-Prix-Legends/3000-7551_4-886889.html

I also have NFS Porsche unleashed on my harddrive

The do not compare w/ GT4 on PS2 however. Gt4 is 10 times more realistic, but possibly not as fun

BJH

Posted by: dion9146 Dec 12 2005, 09:48 PM

GPL is still IMHO one of the best simulations out there. It didn't get popular because it is probably too hard for the average PC gamer. It took me 6 months before I could win my first race (on realistic mode). But like Seanery says, find the downloadable maps and upgrades, tracks, etc., and the realism is even better.

I ran Gingerman in my Formula Vee, came home and downloaded the track, set up the Eagle to respond just like a Vee, and the realism blew me away.

I've been racing it for 5 years now and it still is as difficult as the day I started. My fellow FV buddies get on-line and use it like an off-season training tool - sort of. Last weekend I ran Project Gotham on a X-360 - the graphics are cool, but the vehicle dynamics are like a high-priced video game.

http://gplea.rscsites.org/
or
http://trackdb.d2g.com/?

Dion

Posted by: Speedster07 Dec 12 2005, 10:05 PM

Hey guys, you must get the www.playseats.com seat and then use a projector for your ultimate experience.

yeeeeHaaaaa

Posted by: cha914 Dec 12 2005, 11:03 PM

GTR the game that is out now with modern GT class cars (GT Legends is based on this engine) is a really fun game with easy modes to get started and you can work your way up to full SIM mode. I have been playing it for a few months and it is a blast. Driving a 600hp GT2 porsche is a kick...plus its got a real nice multiplayer mode for when you get your firends together.

And a big plus is you can pick up GTR at most of the stores now for 20bucks or less...and it will get you ready for GT legands when it comes out in a few months...I can't wait...

Tony

Posted by: Andyrew Dec 13 2005, 03:34 AM

No one wants to buy the german version of the game???

I think ima gona get this game...

Posted by: tat2dphreak Dec 14 2005, 10:35 AM

been hooked on the NFS... underground 2 it's pretty cool... a bit ricer though

NFS most wanted is out too.... if you like the Hot Pursuit-like NFS games...

NFS: porsche Unleashed was really the Best NFS game though... damage, etc... very cool... you can D/L the 914-6, too

I'm looking forward to GT legends...

one of the dislikes I had for a long time with PC- racing games, was the lack of good controllers, about 2 years ago I bought a Gravis X-Terminator... that thing RULES!!!

I need to get a steering wheel/pedal setup...

Posted by: Porcharu Dec 14 2005, 01:40 PM

If you run GPL. You really need good pedals (or just rewire the ones you have) that have a separate axis for the brake and throttle. Most pedals just sum the 2 pedals (applying the on brakes is the same as letting off the throttle) because game designers don't understand vehicle dynamics. GPL does the physics use both the brake and throttle as separate inputs - you can trailbrake, load the front tires with the brakes while still at full throttle etc.

Posted by: tat2dphreak Dec 14 2005, 02:15 PM

QUOTE (srbliss @ Dec 14 2005, 02:40 PM)
If you run GPL. You really need good pedals (or just rewire the ones you have) that have a separate axis for the brake and throttle. Most pedals just sum the 2 pedals (applying the on brakes is the same as letting off the throttle) because game designers don't understand vehicle dynamics. GPL does the physics use both the brake and throttle as separate inputs - you can trailbrake, load the front tires with the brakes while still at full throttle etc.

yea, NFS sux at that... if you apply the brake, you are not giving throttle... letting off the gas is different than applying brakes, but you can't use both at once

Posted by: goose2 Dec 14 2005, 08:43 PM

The ultimate racing sim?
http://www.gogamer.com/cgi-bin/GoGamer.storefront/SESSIONID/Product/View/000VIRTUALGT

Posted by: seanery Dec 15 2005, 11:21 PM

http://forum.rscnet.org/forumdisplay.php?f=36

Posted by: goose2 Dec 16 2005, 12:09 AM

Wow...that's an impressive site Sean....I'm gonna have to check out this game.

Posted by: seanery Dec 16 2005, 09:11 AM

Randy,
I just checked out your website. Wow! Your work is beautiful! Truly amazing stuff coming out of your workshop.

Posted by: jonwatts Dec 16 2005, 09:39 AM

I think the secret is out. There's a lot of cool stuff and cool people in Oregon.

Posted by: goose2 Dec 16 2005, 10:33 AM

Hey, thanks for the compliments guys.......I love wood almost as much as I love cars. I used to restore woodies....best of both worlds but no money in it.

Posted by: seanery Dec 16 2005, 12:21 PM

GT Legends Demo is available ftp://ftp.download-center.com/international/gtlegends/ as well as some other stuff that is unexplainably available to the public.

Posted by: seanery Dec 16 2005, 12:32 PM

I'm downloading the demo now and have been reading through the webpage. I see the Nurburgring is there, but it looks like the F1 track not the Nordschlife (sp?). Does anyone know if it's the full course or just the F1?

Posted by: goose2 Dec 16 2005, 12:55 PM

I downloaded a demo a couple days ago from a different site. I got one course and 3 cars (Jag, Corvette, and Lotus Elan). It runs pretty good on my computer, 1.2 Ghz AMD w/ATI Visiontek 9600 Vid card. I wanted to make sure it would run on my setup before buying the full version. Picking up a Momo wheel/pedal thingy this afternoon

Posted by: zymurgist Dec 16 2005, 01:18 PM

QUOTE (tat2dphreak @ Dec 14 2005, 11:35 AM)
NFS: porsche Unleashed was really the Best NFS game though... damage, etc... very cool... you can D/L the 914-6, too

O RLY? 914/6 is available?

That's way cool. My regular 914 is a hopped up white 2.0 (I also have a red 1.7).

Posted by: don9146 Dec 16 2005, 05:57 PM

QUOTE (seanery @ Dec 16 2005, 01:32 PM)
I'm downloading the demo now and have been reading through the webpage. I see the Nurburgring is there, but it looks like the F1 track not the Nordschlife (sp?). Does anyone know if it's the full course or just the F1?

The game uses new versions of the old tracks (i.e. no Nordschlife). Simbin claims the game simulates the current "club" racing being done with the old cars instead of a simulating racing the cars during there prime.

Later,
Don

Posted by: seanery Dec 16 2005, 06:11 PM

that's too bad because it plays really nice. I can only imagine doing the full ring. We race the ring a lot in Forza and Project Gotham on XBox, but the feel is much better with GT Legends

Posted by: goose2 Dec 17 2005, 03:35 PM

OK...I picked up a used Momo Race wheel and pedals...it works good except that the PO lost the power supply so no feedback functions. Anyone know where I can get a power supply: input 110v AC, output 24v DC ? Radio shack doesn't have one....found some on the web but big bucks.

Posted by: seanery Dec 17 2005, 04:11 PM

Randy,
I've got a Logitech Formula Force which predates the Momo stuff. Here is the info from the power supply:

Model: 57DT-20-1500
P/N: 190010-0000
Input: 120VAC/60Hz 45W 480mA
Output: 20VDC/1.5A

Shield is Neg
Pin is Pos

ITE Power Supply 9835

With that info you can probably get one at Frye's. Take the pedals with you so you can make sure the plug fits correctly.

Posted by: seanery Dec 17 2005, 04:12 PM

I gotta say, this is a nice demo. With the force feedback on it drives very nice. I prefer the GP course over the short course. I just wish I had some more cars & tracks...oh well, I will on Tuesday

Posted by: seanery Dec 17 2005, 06:34 PM

914

Attached image(s)

Posted by: seanery Dec 17 2005, 06:35 PM

914

Attached image(s)

Posted by: seanery Dec 17 2005, 06:35 PM

914

Attached image(s)

Posted by: goose2 Dec 17 2005, 06:52 PM

Thanks Sean...that will help. There's no Fry's here but a couple other similar places. Did you get the 914 in your demo?

Posted by: seanery Dec 17 2005, 07:09 PM

nope, it's a screenshot from the real version. I got one on ebay

Posted by: seanery Dec 19 2005, 08:13 PM

I broke out Grand Prix Legends last night when I got bored with the 2 tracks of the GT Legends demo. I love this game!

Here's a pic of the broken Cooper I was driving before the motor died

Attached image(s)

Posted by: goose2 Dec 19 2005, 08:19 PM

Hey Sean...I downloaded GPLegends yesterday (the 2004 updated version). It looks very cool, and I love those old F1 cars, but it won't work. I can't get my Momo wheel to input steering...pedals work but no steer
The wheel works fine with NFS and GTLegends. Any ideas?...know a good support site?
Thanks

Posted by: seanery Dec 20 2005, 10:02 AM

Randy,
that's odd. I'd double check the steering wheel's connection to the pedals. If that doesn't work, click on the link the GPLegends forum on the previous page. I bet someone there will be able to help you figure it out.

good luck.