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Posted by: plymouth37 Dec 14 2005, 10:04 PM

hey guys,
I just bought some new rims and tires and felt obligated to burn my perfectly good pirellis down to the cords. thought you might enjoy this, http://renegadehybrids.com/914/Subie/Videos/Video01.avi it takes about a minute to load but trust me, its worth the wait.

Posted by: iamchappy Dec 14 2005, 10:07 PM

Thank you...

Posted by: Rider914 Dec 14 2005, 10:08 PM

Posted by: dlo914 Dec 14 2005, 10:08 PM

AWESOME BURNOUT!!! w/ your Subie conversion!!! imma do that to my old tires when i get a new set!

Posted by: LvSteveH Dec 14 2005, 10:08 PM

Yup..... worth the wait

Posted by: d914 Dec 14 2005, 10:10 PM

cooool!!!!

Posted by: smac Dec 14 2005, 10:11 PM

Wow!

Posted by: Travis Neff Dec 14 2005, 10:12 PM

WooHoo! looks like fun

Posted by: TonyAKAVW Dec 14 2005, 10:32 PM

Wow, that car sounds positively mean. What are you using for your exhaust?

-Tony

Posted by: Gary Dec 14 2005, 10:32 PM

Okay, spill the beans. What's the powertrain in that monster?

Posted by: Andyrew Dec 14 2005, 10:34 PM

Cool stuff!!! Can you tell us what trani and cv you've got that lets you do that?

I know mine would just blow up.... Done a few burn outs myself (almost all on accident.. seriously..), but they are all done from straight line..

Like the exhaust.. sounds like our turbo.

Doesnt look like your tires stick very good..


Post above, powertrain is subaru turbo, 2.0 I believe.

Posted by: Aaron Cox Dec 14 2005, 10:37 PM

quite the tall 901 1st gear....

B C or D id guess....

Posted by: Mugs914 Dec 14 2005, 10:38 PM

TOO COOL!!!!

Posted by: Rotary'14 Dec 14 2005, 10:43 PM

NICE!!!!



-Rob

Posted by: type47fan Dec 14 2005, 10:44 PM

What a ride, yet amazingly scary at the same time. . .thanks for sharing!

Posted by: goose2 Dec 14 2005, 10:49 PM

hehehehehehee.......we'll never grow up, will we?

Posted by: sgomes Dec 14 2005, 10:54 PM

You are a complete jackass.




I love it!

Posted by: plymouth37 Dec 14 2005, 10:54 PM

QUOTE (Gary @ Dec 14 2005, 08:32 PM)

Okay, spill the beans. What's the powertrain in that monster?

pretty much stock 2004 subaru 2.0 turbo flat 4, completely stock 914 tranny (the gear you saw was the stock 2nd, 1st is to weak) the exhaust is a single 2.5 inch with a 16 inch spintech muffler. axles are from Renegade Hybrids (good up to 500 hp!)

Posted by: swood Dec 14 2005, 10:56 PM

I want one!!!:woohoo:

Posted by: Andyrew Dec 14 2005, 11:00 PM

901 eh?

Well You all might be seeing another video of the same thing! Iff'n I can find a place to do it at

Andrew

Posted by: mrihop Dec 14 2005, 11:02 PM

Nice Flares... Will I get to see your car when I'm up at the shop Monday??? Last time I saw it you just got it rolling.

Posted by: plymouth37 Dec 14 2005, 11:03 PM

sounds good, we should start an official 914 abuse thread...
yeah its my daily driver, so come on over, its at the shop every day.

Posted by: swood Dec 14 2005, 11:11 PM

QUOTE (plymouth37 @ Dec 14 2005, 09:03 PM)

sounds good, we should start an official 914 abuse thread... yeah its my daily driver, so come on over, its at the shop every day.

Which constitutes more abuse...what we just saw in that wicked video or keeping it covered up or in a garage or on jackstands for years at a time??

Posted by: Pugbug Dec 14 2005, 11:45 PM

All I can say is Holy Smoke!....I gotta have a Subaru in mine!....I start tomorrow!

Posted by: effutuo101 Dec 15 2005, 12:10 AM

thats all i am gonna say. Dam!

Posted by: goose2 Dec 15 2005, 12:13 AM

plymouth, looks like you've just doubled the number of Suby conversions being done this winter.

Posted by: Scott Carlberg Dec 15 2005, 12:24 AM

QUOTE (Andyrew @ Dec 14 2005, 09:00 PM)

901 eh? Well You all might be seeing another video of the same thing! Iff'n I can find a place to do it at Andrew

MJC parking lot

corner of Stoddard & Tully,
not on the bldg side, but across the street,
behind the old Warden's office product warehouse!

I'll man the camera for ya!!!


NOTE: Dan, don't read this post...

Posted by: Andyrew Dec 15 2005, 12:41 AM

That actually sounds like a good place!!!

Nahh. dad can read... but he'll do the driving

BTW scott, Im sending you a pm.. What are you up to sunday?

Posted by: Scott Carlberg Dec 15 2005, 12:57 AM

Andrew,
you've got Email!

Posted by: messix Dec 15 2005, 01:08 AM

couldn't get it on the laptop, but got it on the p/c. cool brodie. did that in the snow last week. first time for my 5yr old daughter doin doughnuts in the culdasac [sp?] she giggled and said was fun lets do more, didn't push my luck with the niebors and quickly put the teener back in the garage.

Posted by: fiid Dec 15 2005, 01:13 AM

LMAO.

Posted by: Andyrew Dec 15 2005, 01:13 AM

BTW, do you have limited slip?

Cus it looks like you do...

Posted by: dlo914 Dec 15 2005, 01:17 AM

QUOTE (Pugbug @ Dec 14 2005, 09:45 PM)

All I can say is Holy Smoke!....I gotta have a Subaru in mine!....I start tomorrow!

tell me about it! the next 914 i get will either by converted by me or purchased

Posted by: rpmmaxxed Dec 15 2005, 01:55 AM

Someday...

THat thing sounds wicked

Posted by: spiritedTreiber Dec 15 2005, 02:13 AM

NICE.....



me: I want one Santa!

Santa: You're gonna blow your tires out kid! Ho Ho Ho

Posted by: atsealevel914 Dec 15 2005, 05:14 AM

Thanks alot man that is freakin awesome!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: VegasRacer Dec 15 2005, 05:21 AM

Smokin'


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Posted by: lotus_65 Dec 15 2005, 05:39 AM

holy sh!t that sounds nothing like the suby my ex owned 10 years ago. i thought it had a sewing machine motor in it!

wow.

...so, do i get an http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=8020189790&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT off e-bay or a crate motor?
it's a lot of fabrication work to plumb and set up the intercoolers, isn't it?
looks like fun.

Posted by: Thomas J Bliznik Dec 15 2005, 08:50 AM

That is beautiful. I am in love with the Subura conversion

I sent the vido to a few 911 friends. They just got back to me and can't believe it. They also mentioned the 914 in EXCELLENCE. These 911 guys now want a 914.
They asked me if I can find them a "rust Free" one. We know the answer.

Tom
BTW
Plymouth37 guy, you should be very proud!!!!!!

Posted by: tat2dphreak Dec 15 2005, 09:05 AM

awesome man!!


looks like a bunch of fun!

Posted by: wilchek Dec 15 2005, 09:28 AM

Awesome, Sign me up for one of those


that subby engine at ebay seems cheep
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=8020189790&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT

Posted by: lotus_65 Dec 15 2005, 10:05 AM

QUOTE (wilchek @ Dec 15 2005, 10:28 AM)

Awesome, Sign me up for one of those that subby engine at ebay seems cheep http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=8020189790&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT

yea, super cheap, that's why i asked for clarification. i'm sure some guys have bought crate engines and installed them. i guess i'll do a search to try and assess true costs.

Posted by: plymouth37 Dec 15 2005, 10:12 AM

QUOTE (lotus_65 @ Dec 15 2005, 08:05 AM)

QUOTE (wilchek @ Dec 15 2005, 10:28 AM) Awesome, Sign me up for one of those that subby engine at ebay seems cheep http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=8020189790&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT yea, super cheap, that's why i asked for clarification. i'm sure some guys have bought crate engines and installed them. i guess i'll do a search to try and assess true costs.

the jdm engines are a little scary, i woulden't buy an engine that I didn't know the mileage of. there are a lot of great salvage in the us, call frank at 1-586-615-7455, i bought my engine from him and as you can tell it is pretty strong!

Posted by: plymouth37 Dec 15 2005, 10:31 AM

here is a little straight line fun, I would have gone a little longer but the tire was starting to chunk off pretty bad! http://www.renegadehybrids.com/914/shortburnoutcompressed.avi

Posted by: WRX914 Dec 15 2005, 11:25 AM

Dana,

Too funny. I read/watched this thread this morning and laughed so hard that my Starbucks Mocciato shot thru my nose!

no shit.

Posted by: WRX914 Dec 15 2005, 11:29 AM

I can not wait for mine to get painted, and have you finish it off.

Posted by: WRX914 Dec 15 2005, 11:39 AM

Dana and I got our engines from the same guy. He is very honest, delivers what he says he will. I got my 2004 WRX (4k mi) for $1500, nother $500 for the wiring harness and ECU. My suggestion would be to call the number Dana supplied in a previous post on this thread, you probably will be glad you did.

Posted by: sk8kat1 Dec 15 2005, 11:43 AM

so how hard is it to cram a suby engine into a 914 ? and then actualy beable to drive it down the road

I saw the coversion kit on the renegade site for like 1300.00 then an engine seems to be 2000.00+/-

what else do you have to do to get this pup to bark?

Posted by: Aaron Cox Dec 15 2005, 11:47 AM

QUOTE (sk8kat1 @ Dec 15 2005, 10:43 AM)

so how hard is it to cram a suby engine into a 914 ? and then actualy beable to drive it down the road I saw the coversion kit on the renegade site for like 1300.00 then an engine seems to be 2000.00+/- what else do you have to do to get this pup to bark?

a radiator kit....

Posted by: TonyAKAVW Dec 15 2005, 11:47 AM

QUOTE

what else do you have to do to get this pup to bark?

Well, assuming you get the Renegade kit, you'll also need a front mounted radiator (which also is probably necessary for the turbo Subaru engines anyway), an exhaust system and electronics. Thats about it. The electronics are probably the single most challenging part of the project, because unlike a V8 conversion, a carb isn't the way to go. You can use the stock ECU and wiring harness (which requries significant modification) or you can buy an aftermarket ECU and custom made harness, for probably somewhere in the range of $1000.

-Tony

Posted by: plymouth37 Dec 15 2005, 11:50 AM

QUOTE (sk8kat1 @ Dec 15 2005, 09:43 AM)

so how hard is it to cram a suby engine into a 914 ? and then actualy beable to drive it down the road I saw the coversion kit on the renegade site for like 1300.00 then an engine seems to be 2000.00+/- what else do you have to do to get this pup to bark?

you will need the subie engine, ecu and modified wiring harness, renegade conversion kit, radiator, axles, and some custom tubing for the intercooler and up-pipe. call me (Dana) at Renegade Hybrids at 1-866-498-2421, i would be happy to walk you thru the whole thing.

Posted by: Crazyhippy Dec 15 2005, 12:01 PM

So....

What kinda mileage did you get on that tank??

And how is this video different than how you drive everyday?

BJH

Posted by: olav Dec 15 2005, 12:21 PM

How much hp and torque does that thing put out?

Posted by: sk8kat1 Dec 15 2005, 12:35 PM

hey thanks guys that's some good info to see if I want to go that route ( wife / $$ permitting )

oh and aaron thanks for the help too .. cough :: smartass:: cough

Posted by: StratPlayer Dec 15 2005, 12:37 PM

BADASS

Posted by: sk8kat1 Dec 15 2005, 12:45 PM

kinda OT -- what do you guys know about the engines a place called massive iv engines (I belive that is the name of the biz) sounds like a bad ass engine -- but would like more info from people other than the company ee's


mike

Posted by: Root_Werks Dec 15 2005, 01:18 PM

SWEET! Thanks for sharing those!

Posted by: plymouth37 Dec 15 2005, 01:47 PM

QUOTE (olav @ Dec 15 2005, 10:21 AM)

How much hp and torque does that thing put out?

the engine puts out 227 hp and 217 ftlbs of torque stock, so with the few tweeks i have done it is probably in the 250 horse range, but remember, this engine is lighter than a type 4.
and yes this is a good representation of how I drive every day.
still getting around 30 mpg, scary huh?

Posted by: mrdezyne Dec 15 2005, 02:25 PM

One more reason to make a "conversion" sub-forum, it would be nice to have all of this Suby info in one easy to find location.....

I won't be turbo'ed so my conversion should be a little more straight forward right? I mean as far as the ECU and harness? All I can find on the motor are 3 connectors. I need some help weeding this harness out. Its a 2004 EJ25... anyone know what needs to go and stay?

I can only pray that I can get mine to sound close to that when I'm finished! SWEEEEEET!

Posted by: plymouth37 Dec 15 2005, 02:38 PM

QUOTE (mrdezyne @ Dec 15 2005, 12:25 PM)

One more reason to make a "conversion" sub-forum, it would be nice to have all of this Suby info in one easy to find location.....  :clap: I won't be turbo'ed so my conversion should be a little more straight forward right?  I mean as far as the ECU and harness?  All I can find on the motor are 3 connectors.  I need some help weeding this harness out.  Its a 2004 EJ25... anyone know what needs to go and stay?   I can only pray that I can get mine to sound close to that when I'm finished!  SWEEEEEET!

go to http://smallcarperformance.com they helped me out a lot with my wiring.

Posted by: TonyAKAVW Dec 15 2005, 02:57 PM

QUOTE

All I can find on the motor are 3 connectors. I need some help weeding this harness out. Its a 2004 EJ25... anyone know what needs to go and stay?

I'm just about finished with the wiring harness on my 2001 EJ25. I'm sure its pretty similar. I will be posting the schematics that I made up in my conversion thread tonight. Otherwise the thing to do is get a copy of the factory service manual for your make and model and year on a CD and print out the sections on the wiring harness. There are really two pages (for mine at least) that are the most important. There are places on line where you can get a CD with the factory service manual for really cheap...

-Tony

Posted by: mrdezyne Dec 15 2005, 03:16 PM

Thanks! I sent Small Car a quick email and I'll be looking for your post tonight or tomorrow Tony.

Posted by: Andyrew Dec 15 2005, 03:29 PM

Kinda sad I didnt go with a subaru now myself....

I think I'll take a drive, throw it in 5th gear at 30mph, and just put my foot in it for 20 seconds. Woops, Im at 100mph already?

Good old tq...

I dont feel so bad now

Next month I should have one of my own...


BTW You did this on Good tires??? why?

Posted by: plymouth37 Dec 15 2005, 03:32 PM

QUOTE (Andyrew @ Dec 15 2005, 01:29 PM)

BTW You did this on Good tires??? why?

why not? i graduated to 17s, I figure it was some sort of right of passage thing or something. no more 16s he he..

Posted by: olav Dec 15 2005, 03:43 PM

QUOTE (plymouth37 @ Dec 15 2005, 11:47 AM)

QUOTE (olav @ Dec 15 2005, 10:21 AM) How much hp and torque does that thing put out? the engine puts out 227 hp and 217 ftlbs of torque stock, so with the few tweeks i have done it is probably in the 250 horse range, but remember, this engine is lighter than a type 4. and yes this is a good representation of how I drive every day. still getting around 30 mpg, scary huh?

Nice.

Is that rear wheel hp?

Posted by: plymouth37 Dec 15 2005, 04:26 PM

flywheel specs, a dyno run is coming up

Posted by: lotus_65 Dec 15 2005, 06:40 PM

QUOTE (plymouth37 @ Dec 15 2005, 07:32 PM)

the aftermath, hee hee

i call that carnage!

lmao

why not swap the fronts to back and give us an encore!

Posted by: rick 918-S Dec 15 2005, 07:11 PM

Posted by: MecGen Dec 15 2005, 07:13 PM

Dude

You rock

I have always been old school, and a car the breaks loose changing gears, alway good times.

I realy like the idea of a "Conversion" sub forum.

But only Eric Shea and I have the right idea
Ssshhh secret

Those vids are definately going to my "saved" file....if I can figure out how to do it

+Karma
Later

Posted by: plymouth37 Dec 16 2005, 10:53 AM

QUOTE (lotus_65 @ Dec 15 2005, 04:40 PM)

why not swap the fronts to back and give us an encore!

Don’t tempt me, you are a bad influence.

Posted by: michel richard Dec 16 2005, 10:56 AM

QUOTE (messix @ Dec 14 2005, 11:08 PM)

culdasac [sp?]

cul de sac

litteral translation: bottom of the bag

Posted by: elocke Dec 16 2005, 12:12 PM

Awesome vid! Makes me wanna try it. I'm due for new rubber. Maybe I'll get a backup 901 first. I thought it was an odd sounding V8 till I read the posts. Do you have a LSD. Looks like 1 tire took the brunt of the burn.
Awesome!
Ed

Posted by: plymouth37 Dec 16 2005, 12:50 PM

QUOTE (elocke @ Dec 16 2005, 10:12 AM)

Awesome vid!  Makes me wanna try it.  I'm due for new rubber.  Maybe I'll get a backup 901 first.  I thought it was an odd sounding V8 till I read the posts.  Do you have a LSD.  Looks like 1 tire took the brunt of the burn. Awesome! Ed

totally stock tranny, still has the original gear oil in it from the factory!
yes I am that lazy!

Posted by: Andyrew Dec 16 2005, 01:09 PM

Did you do that at your work parking lot??

Oh, and can you take pics of the concrete? Always good to know how black it gets...

Posted by: Andyrew Dec 16 2005, 01:12 PM

Are you wearing a helmet? Cus it looks like it....

Posted by: plymouth37 Dec 16 2005, 02:35 PM

QUOTE (Andyrew @ Dec 16 2005, 11:12 AM)

Are you wearing a helmet? Cus it looks like it....

no helmet just my 'fro

Posted by: Aaron Cox Dec 16 2005, 02:44 PM

QUOTE (plymouth37 @ Dec 16 2005, 01:35 PM)

QUOTE (Andyrew @ Dec 16 2005, 11:12 AM) Are you wearing a helmet? Cus it looks like it.... no helmet just my 'fro

all about da fro....

Posted by: BIGKAT_83 Dec 17 2005, 06:18 AM

Man thats a good burnout......................
I think I can smell the rubber here.



Bob

Posted by: Terryst1 Jan 1 2006, 07:23 PM

Great burn outs!

Your first was the best, and the 2nd was that Ol' 914 thing: I did some with my car too and found it disappointing that the car just doesn't want to keep rotating in a circle! It spoiled my whole "hero victory" thing!

I have a 930 trans and was not worried about the loads, but keep in mind that that 901 has small spiders and was designed for about 200 Ft Lbs of torque.

Terry

Posted by: plymouth37 Nov 19 2006, 02:42 PM

QUOTE(plymouth37 @ Dec 15 2005, 12:47 PM)

Posted by: Crazyhippy Nov 19 2006, 03:05 PM

I put down 286 HP and 273ft lbs of Tq on a notoriously tight dyno. That's @ the wheels...

It's enough to get into a LOT of trouble.

BJH

Posted by: plymouth37 Nov 19 2006, 03:17 PM

QUOTE(Crazyhippy @ Nov 19 2006, 02:05 PM)

Posted by: Crazyhippy Nov 19 2006, 03:36 PM

Got ahopld of a GSXR 600 w/ a passenger he had me by ~ a car froom 60-90, and i had it back by 120... Rider couldn't believe it.

Also dug into a 996 turbo... i lifted @ 120ish, and he was just over a car back (starting @ 70 maybe???) He would have gone by me like i was standing still had i kept in it though. Damn aerodynamics

Posted by: plymouth37 Nov 19 2006, 03:42 PM

subies kick ass.

Posted by: JPB Nov 19 2006, 04:43 PM

QUOTE(michel richard @ Dec 16 2005, 11:56 AM)