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Posted by: Bruce Allert Aug 23 2003, 02:28 AM

Whew..... finally Started on them suckers last week fully expecting to take a day off this week to finish. My asst. had an emergency leave situation so there the car stood, up on stands partially apart. Managed to get it together today after dinner and finished it up. Hope it's right Will know in the morning....
This was quite the experience. Now for AX on Sunday!!!!
bruce

Posted by: URY914 Aug 23 2003, 06:13 AM

You won't believe the differece.

Go get 'em.

Paul

Posted by: Bruce Allert Aug 23 2003, 09:07 AM

Pic of what I found under the gas tank. This squirell was busy... these Filbert or Hazel nuts were throughout the car when I bought it
bruce


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Posted by: rhodyguy Aug 23 2003, 09:24 AM

atta boy bruce!!! we "mature" guys are so focused.

kevin

Posted by: Jeroen Aug 23 2003, 09:41 AM

Have a beer, I know you deserve it

I finished the front susp. on the 911 yesterday
(swaybar, bigger t-bars, new bushings)

working on the rear right now
(I like the rear susp. of the 914 a LOT better, it's much easier)

cheers,

Jeroen


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Posted by: Bleyseng Aug 23 2003, 09:53 AM

Whats the white paint?

Posted by: Jeroen Aug 23 2003, 09:57 AM

It's rattle can primer... quick lazy fix to cover some stone-chips

cheers,

Jeroen

Posted by: Bruce Allert Aug 23 2003, 10:27 AM

Just got back from the test spin It works and what a difference How did I do without
I'll be doin' the rears as soon as I get time & learn what the setting is for the welder for this metal. I have a wire feed in the shop at work that I'll either bring home or just do it there.
If this just made it 100% better then the rears must do another 100%. (cool! then I'll just float around the corners, eh?)
All I gotta say is "what a car"
bruce

Posted by: ArtechnikA Aug 23 2003, 11:30 AM

don't get me started on 5/16" Heim joints in single shear in this application...
i don't want to be an alarmist but i must say once again that it's a bad idea.

you are, of course, free to ignore me and it won't hurt my feelings. just be careful, okay ?

Posted by: Dave_Darling Aug 23 2003, 11:33 AM

Bruce, I wouldn't bother with the rear. More hassle than it's worth IMHO.

--DD

Posted by: Jeroen Aug 23 2003, 12:21 PM

Educate me, oh wise one!
But seriously, I suppose you are referring to the spherical bearings/monoballs for the rear "banana" trailing arms?
Please explain

cheers,

Jeroen

Posted by: ChrisReale Aug 23 2003, 02:19 PM

Way to go Bruce! Now you wont be dragging your nice shiny door handles along the ground when you take hard turns! See ya tommorow

Posted by: redshift Aug 23 2003, 02:27 PM

Good deal Bruce! I'm with Dave on the adding a rear bar.



Maybe you need a higher rate front bar though...



M

Posted by: ArtechnikA Aug 23 2003, 02:40 PM

i had a 5/16" front antiroll bar droplink Heim joint fail in compression, resulting in near-total loss of car (my yellow factory /6). and that was a joint in double shear.

i agree with Carroll Smith, who more frequently than not was right on these isues - single shear is a crime against nature. 5/16" is just not strong enough for this application. 3/8" probably is.

someone (Demmick?) and i had a long discussion on and off Rennlist about this a while back. using female rod ends and high-strength threaded stuf portion might be okay if you *must* use 5/16", but once-burned/twice shy for me - i'm not using anything smaller than 3/8 for my droplink rod ends ever again.

i think any of the rear semi-trailing arm monoball kits are fine from what i've seen; i'll probably be using one of them this winter myself.

Posted by: ChrisReale Aug 23 2003, 02:41 PM

Do you guys feel that a rear bar on a stock suspended 914 is not needed? I would think that if everything was stock, a rear bar waould help. Maybe I am not knowing....??

Posted by: redshift Aug 23 2003, 02:56 PM

I like the rear bar. I like to run my noses a little lower than the rears, they take up the lil wiggle on transitions. If you like to snap the car around, prolly better without them.

It feels like the car holds energy better with them, like the Force is with you.


M

Posted by: Bruce Allert Aug 23 2003, 04:32 PM

The install of the rear doesn't look any harder than the front, actually it appears easier but I thought the front was going to be a piece of cake Don't get me wrong... the front wasn't that bad. Going into a project for the first time is always eye opening with surprises
All i all, it was enjoyable. I found the link for welding in another posting by (I think) it was John of Ghia Specialties. Got it copied & ready to read it thoroughly

Chris, glad to hear you will be down tomorrow. Try to drag Geoff & Kevin too.....
bruce

Posted by: Rob Ways Aug 23 2003, 11:31 PM

Find somebody with one. Drive it, then disconnect it. I personally like it for what I do with the car - AXs & windy roads. Make your own choice.

Posted by: Dave_Darling Aug 24 2003, 05:21 PM

I found that there wasn't a whole lot of difference on my car. It rotated a little better with the bar in place, but that was it. I preferred the handling of the car with the stock suspension and with the stock front and rear bars, but I don't think the difference was great enough to bother breaking out the welder.

And once I started upgrading the suspension, the rear bar was way overkill and was removed.

--DD