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Posted by: seanery Aug 24 2003, 10:39 AM

http://www.usaweld.com

The prices seem good. http://www.autobodysupply.net/catalog/default.asp?ManufacturerID=33

just curious.

Posted by: redshift Aug 24 2003, 02:38 PM

I want to learn to weld.

What is the highest duty one would need for working on a car? I am guessing the really big ones could build a ship.... 3/4"! Jees!

I guess you would need at least the low end 220v model, to cover all bases?

Last time I welded, I was like 9, and it scared the hell out of me.



M

Posted by: Jeroen Aug 24 2003, 06:05 PM

Their MIG160 looks nice (they even have a version of it that works with 110V)
Any prices on these thingies?

cheers,

Jeroen

Posted by: redshift Aug 24 2003, 06:10 PM

Yeah... http://www.autobodysupply.net/catalog/default.asp?ManufacturerID=33

Manufacturer Htp Mfg. Part # 60160

HTP MIG WELDER, 160 AMP, WELDS UP TO 5/16. DOES NOT INCLUDE REGULATOR OR TANK.

Unit Price 1449.00 SALE PRICE 1086.75

Posted by: Jeroen Aug 24 2003, 06:14 PM

Crap! Thanks pretty expensive!
I can get a decent 150 amp welder here for around $600 - $700, including a regulator and a 2.5 gallon gasbottle

cheers,

Jeroen

Posted by: seanery Aug 24 2003, 06:18 PM

This is the one that caught my fancy:
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Manufacturer Htp Mfg. Part # 70100

Invertig 100, Tig Welder, 115v, 16 amp, 1/8 max thickness, duty cycle 60% at 85 amps.

Unit Price 599.00 SALE PRICE 449.25

Quantity

Posted by: redshift Aug 24 2003, 06:29 PM

Sounds like TIG is the way to go, yah.. sounds like experts can do it easy, oh yeah..



What is more painful? I want the other one.



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Posted by: seanery Aug 24 2003, 06:33 PM

mig is easier. tig is quiet & clean.

Posted by: Jeroen Aug 24 2003, 06:45 PM

Never tig-welded before
I'd like to try it some time
I heard it's quite a bit harder than mig-welding?

cheers,

Jeroen

Posted by: seanery Aug 24 2003, 06:59 PM

Jeroen,

It depends on the material.

I picked up aluminum quickly. Stainless kicked my ass. (Oh wait, was it the other way around )

Posted by: URY914 Aug 24 2003, 07:08 PM

If I had to buy a MIG welder again, I'd go with a Miller or a Lincon. I have a Daytona MIG. Sorta cheap. I'd stick with the name brands. One that I can walk into the local welding supply house and say I'm trying to do this or that and they'll have experence with my machine.


Paul

Posted by: cha914 Aug 24 2003, 11:31 PM

If you are going to buy a welder, my Miller...period...maybe a Lincoln (mig only) if you find a good price on em... here is a good site for welding stuff online, they have some of the cheapest prices around:

www.cyberweld.com

As far as MIG and TIG go ... MIG has just a one piece torch, the wire comes out of the middle of the torch, its easy to weld, but harder to see the weld puddle and harder to be real accurate and clean with. That said, a little 110 amp Miller or Lincoln MIG will do about anything you will need to do on a car. But I do recommend getting one that you can hook up a gas line to cause it welds TONS better with Gas than with flux wire=very messy.

TIG is basically the same as Oxy fuel welding, except alot cleaner and alot more controlable ... with TIG you have a torch that supplies the heat, then you hold the filler rod in you other hand and feed it in as needed, and the best part is you have amperage control either with a foot pedal or a knob on the torch that allows you to weld hotter or colder as you go, so you can control the weld puddle and set your pace better.

Anyway, I just got a Miller 250 Tigrunner ... it kicks ass!!! But probably a litte more than most want to spend on a welder. 914 rust...here I come

Tony

Posted by: James Adams Aug 25 2003, 09:40 AM

My dad has an HTP - 160 I think. VERY nice machine.

With the power all the way down and inverted I could tack two razor blades together (a little trick on the video that comes with it) and I have welded up to 5/16 wall tubing with it when I built a frame jig.

Posted by: mr914 Aug 27 2003, 09:55 AM

I personally would opt to buy a used Millermatic 150.

I've seen them go at auctions for less than $200 with the gas bottle.