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914World.com _ 914World Garage _ Distributor - Electronic ignition question

Posted by: Trevorg7 Dec 26 2005, 05:33 PM

So I bought points and condensor, among other parts to replace worn parts. I open the distributor cap and boom...something I don't recognize. The PO seems to have put in some sort of electronic pick up. Does anyone recognize this? I'd like to track it down to gather more information.

Thanks and let me know.

Pic - inside the distributor.

T

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Posted by: Trevorg7 Dec 26 2005, 05:34 PM

This is the cap that sits on top.

Thoughts?

T

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Posted by: Brad Roberts Dec 26 2005, 05:47 PM

CB Performance used to sell something like that. I also think the CompuFire setup uses the flying metal.

I personally would leave it alone. Typically those systems dont "start" to go bad.. they fail completely.

I'm surprised you dont have something else in the engine compartment to go along with that setup. I'm guessing that it hooks up directly to the coil??

B

Posted by: Trevorg7 Dec 26 2005, 05:54 PM

Thanks B - Yes it connects directly to a non descript coil.

Do you know if it is hotter than stock?

Posted by: Brad Roberts Dec 26 2005, 05:59 PM

Show me the coil.

Anything electronic is going to give the coil more time to "saturate" compared to the points. Points take time to open and close (dwell time).. electronic happens right now and essentially has no dwell time.

This is about as easy as I can put it.

B

Posted by: Trevorg7 Dec 26 2005, 06:08 PM

Here it is.

Thanks

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Posted by: Brad Roberts Dec 26 2005, 06:22 PM

It is not the Compufire or the CB. Both had their own coil setups.

Run it.

What problem ar you chasing?

B

Posted by: Brad Roberts Dec 26 2005, 06:23 PM

Oh.. FYI: mount that pump a tad lower in the chassis (like the stock loaction) those diaphram style do suck the fuel, but they are better pushers than pullers.

B

Posted by: Trevorg7 Dec 26 2005, 07:03 PM

I looked up the Compu-fire and picture to picture it looks the same.

I am chasing a heavy engine load (accelorating up hill for example) lack of power issue. Interesting you mention the fuel pump in the back of the picture. I was wondering if my problem is fuel starvation.

Where is the stock location?

Posted by: Trevorg7 Dec 26 2005, 07:04 PM

When I say lack of power up hill I mean spuddering to the point that I have to downshift.

Posted by: Brad Roberts Dec 26 2005, 07:20 PM

Sounds to me like it is running out of gas.

The stock location is under the car just in front of the engine mount that hangs down on the right hand side (passenger side) If it is not completely rusted out your should have two rubber mounts hanging down from the engine shelf area. The FACET pumps mount directly to this.

B

Posted by: Brad Roberts Dec 26 2005, 07:21 PM

Your current pump location is more than half way up the actual tank location.

I'm betting your robbing power from the coil also to power the pump?

Run it off the stock wiring with a fuse and a relay (all should still be in place)

B

Posted by: Trevorg7 Dec 26 2005, 07:28 PM

Thanks for all your help Brad.

So here are some pics....am I getting the idea?

T

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Posted by: Trevorg7 Dec 26 2005, 07:29 PM

btw - not rusted out...very little surface rust.

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Posted by: Trevorg7 Dec 26 2005, 07:30 PM

and the far corner in front of the battery.

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Posted by: Trevorg7 Dec 26 2005, 07:32 PM

Ok, sorry disregard the pictures as I just noticed you mention Under the car.

I'll take a look...should be no rust there either.

I'll post pics.

T

Posted by: Brad Roberts Dec 26 2005, 07:33 PM

The backside of the rubber grommets are just behind this wiring loom, but the pump goes under the car.

B

Posted by: Brad Roberts Dec 26 2005, 07:36 PM

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Posted by: lapuwali Dec 26 2005, 07:36 PM

The fuel pump mounts are lower still, below the engine shelf. They're pretty much impossibe to see w/o good light. They're two rubber mounted studs, which miraculously have exactly the right spacing to mount a Facet-style carb pump, like you're running. You can run the fuel hose to the right after it leaves the firewall, connect to the pump, then run it up through the hole in the tin to a regulator, then to the carbs.

Posted by: Brad Roberts Dec 26 2005, 07:41 PM

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The fuel pump mounts are lower still, below the engine shelf.

Negatory good buddy. They are on the shelf.

B

Posted by: Trevorg7 Dec 26 2005, 07:49 PM

You guys Rock!

Thanks for your help. I'll have to jack up the car tomorrow as I cannot get good pics tonight.

Thanks

T

Posted by: Trevorg7 Dec 26 2005, 07:51 PM

Brad - that is the fuel pump in the background of the pic true?

Posted by: Brad Roberts Dec 26 2005, 07:51 PM

Dont thank anyone until it runs If you need any more help I can send a few girls over to help you. Jenny and Birgit are both in the San Jose area and know the cars pretty damn well..LOL

B

Posted by: Brad Roberts Dec 26 2005, 07:56 PM

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Brad - that is the fuel pump in the background of the pic true?

Correct. The one pictured just so happens to be a carburetor pump for a 9146. They looke identical to the stock 4cyl fuel injection fuel pump.

B

Posted by: Trevorg7 Jan 21 2006, 10:46 PM

Ok, oil change day so I got a chance to crawl around under the car.

So two questions, are these the mounts for the stock fuel pump (blue arrows) and (red arrows) is this the stock fuel filter?

Thanks

T

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Posted by: Travis Neff Jan 22 2006, 10:08 AM

Yep, you are correct.