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Posted by: michelko Dec 28 2005, 01:49 AM

Hy guys,
hope you had some nice day with the family.

Lokk what i got from my girl friend as christmas gift:


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Posted by: michelko Dec 28 2005, 01:50 AM

all new, nice aluminium.

Isn´t she lovely? wub.gif


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Posted by: michelko Dec 28 2005, 01:52 AM

first test fitting on the fresh cleaned hub. Later i will take a pic of the other hub, that isn´t cleaned yet so you have an before / after imagination.
I am realy happy about the result.


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Posted by: michelko Dec 28 2005, 01:52 AM

nother view


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Posted by: michelko Dec 28 2005, 01:54 AM

And here are the freshly rebuild calipers

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Posted by: michelko Dec 28 2005, 01:54 AM

second


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Posted by: michelko Dec 28 2005, 01:56 AM

And the Wheels rolleyes.gif


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Posted by: michelko Dec 28 2005, 01:57 AM

sorry no pics of the the rear parts. Will post them later.
Last part missing is the 19mm master cylinder.

Hope i will find one soon.

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Posted by: thesey914 Dec 28 2005, 04:35 AM

IMHO fuchs are the best 'upgrade' for a 914 -those will look superb.

Posted by: watsonrx13 Dec 28 2005, 04:53 AM

Looks great.... biggrin.gif

I agree, Fuchs are the best upgrade for wheels....

-- Rob

Posted by: Jeroen Dec 28 2005, 08:38 AM

ya gotta love the look of shiney new parts
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Posted by: jim912928 Dec 28 2005, 08:59 AM

very cool...you'll love the 5-lug setup/look! Going vented in the back also?

Posted by: michelko Dec 28 2005, 09:03 AM

QUOTE (jim912928 @ Dec 28 2005, 06:59 AM)
very cool...you'll love the 5-lug setup/look! Going vented in the back also?

don´t think vented in the rear is necesary with the incredibloe 80PS 1700 engine huh.gif

But in the near future i am planning a six conversion rolleyes.gif

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Posted by: Bleyseng Dec 28 2005, 09:32 AM

QUOTE (michelko @ Dec 27 2005, 11:49 PM)
Hy guys,
hope you had some nice day with the family.

Lokk what i got from my girl friend as christmas gift:

Wow, new nuts from your GF!


Which calipers are those?

What tires are going on the Fuchs?

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Posted by: JOHNMAN Dec 28 2005, 11:06 AM

Is it just me or is that an odd keyboard (in the backround of the calipers). It don't look like mine. Apparently in Germany they have a slightly different layout of the characters.


Good looking parts, and congratulations on your new nuts.

Posted by: michelko Dec 28 2005, 11:31 AM

QUOTE (Bleyseng @ Dec 28 2005, 07:32 AM)
QUOTE (michelko @ Dec 27 2005, 11:49 PM)
Hy guys,
hope you had some nice day with the family.

Lokk what i got from my girl friend as christmas gift:

Wow, new nuts from your GF!


Which calipers are those?

What tires are going on the Fuchs?

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Still have some just new fulda 185/70/15 on my 4 lug steel wheels.

They will go on the fuchs.

standard 911 "m" calipers, fresh rebuild.

Yeah 20 additional nuts happy11.gif


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Posted by: michelko Dec 28 2005, 11:33 AM

QUOTE (JOHNMAN @ Dec 28 2005, 09:06 AM)
Is it just me or is that an odd keyboard (in the backround of the calipers). It don't look like mine. Apparently in Germany they have a slightly different layout of the characters.


Good looking parts, and congratulations on your new nuts.

the major difference should be changed z and y.

you surely doesn´t have ö ü ä. Don´t know whats on theire place on english keyboards.

But i like that keyboard. It´s a desktoop version with laptop keys.

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Posted by: maf914 Dec 28 2005, 12:02 PM

Michelko,

Do you have to have special approval from vehicle registration to do this conversion in Germany?

How do you plan to do the rear? Which parts are you going to use?

Posted by: michelko Dec 29 2005, 01:49 AM

QUOTE (maf914 @ Dec 28 2005, 10:02 AM)
Michelko,

Do you have to have special approval from vehicle registration to do this conversion in Germany?

How do you plan to do the rear? Which parts are you going to use?

Normaly you have to registrate and proof the conversiion by the German "TÜV".

They sign the conversion into the cars documents.

But whats about this: The Car is now round about 35 Years old, no one nows how the car left the factory wink.gif Tell all people it is originaly equiped with that nice Fuchs wheels. Is this a plan?

For the rear setup i am using the special 914/6 stub axles(reproduction from Mittelmotor) with 911 hubs, brake disks and the original 914/4 calipers.

Will post pics of the setup later.

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Posted by: michelko Dec 29 2005, 01:59 AM

here are the stub axles. purchased them from Mittelmotor some time ago.

nice parts, have good fitting to the 911 hubs.


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Posted by: michelko Dec 29 2005, 01:59 AM

nother view


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Posted by: michelko Dec 29 2005, 02:00 AM

I love the look of new or cleaned parts rolleyes.gif


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Posted by: michelko Dec 29 2005, 02:01 AM

nother:

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Posted by: 914Timo Dec 29 2005, 04:55 AM

Hi Michael

Looks great smilie_pokal.gif

What kind of stub axles those are ?? Some conversion alxles ?? They don´t look original.

How much do you use MittelMotor ?? Do you have other good Porsche parts shops there ??

BTW, I haven´t forgot the AutoCAD file. I just should go through all my old back-up files. I will do that soon. Hope you have still time to wait couple of days. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: michelko Dec 29 2005, 05:59 AM

QUOTE (914Timo @ Dec 29 2005, 02:55 AM)
Hi Michael

Looks great smilie_pokal.gif

What kind of stub axles those are ?? Some conversion alxles ?? They don´t look original.

How much do you use MittelMotor ?? Do you have other good Porsche parts shops there ??

BTW, I haven´t forgot the AutoCAD file. I just should go through all my old back-up files. I will do that soon. Hope you have still time to wait couple of days. rolleyes.gif

Hi Timo,
no problem, don´t hurry. As you can see i am working on several projects dry.gif

That axles are reproduction stuff from Mittelmotor, they should substitute the original 916/6 axles.

Had some trouble with mittelmotor, so i decided to avoid them where possible.

An other good store is the "914 Teilevertrieb Bempflingen". Mr.Stöckel is the owner.

He also have a nice cataloque but no online store.

I am buying the most (new) parts there. Very fast shipping, and no problems till now.

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Posted by: maf914 Dec 29 2005, 08:23 AM

QUOTE (michelko @ Dec 28 2005, 11:49 PM)
But whats about this: The Car is now round about 35 Years old, no one nows how the car left the factory wink.gif Tell all people it is originaly equiped with that nice Fuchs wheels. Is this a plan?

Yep, sounds like a plan. So even the TUV system has a few loopholes. laugh.gif

From my time in Germany, I remember how the TUV system was much more strict than the typical US state vehicle registration office. idea.gif

Posted by: John Jentz Dec 30 2005, 02:59 PM

QUOTE (914Timo @ Dec 29 2005, 06:55 AM)

What kind of stub axles those are ?? Some conversion alxles ?? They don´t look original.

I bought a 5 Lug conversion kit from Otto's about 10 years ago with repro stub axles that look just like those. I wonder where they were sourced. I always thought that maybe Swayaway (off road parts mfg) made them.

Posted by: michelko Dec 31 2005, 02:04 AM

Here are the promised pic´s of the rear setup:


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Posted by: michelko Dec 31 2005, 02:05 AM

nother one


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Posted by: michelko Dec 31 2005, 02:06 AM

stub axle in the hub, snug fit smile.gif


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Posted by: michelko Dec 31 2005, 02:06 AM

last one

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Posted by: michelko Jun 11 2006, 11:23 AM

Story goes on.
Did some updates on the five lug setup. Had the struts sandblasted and coated with por 15. Went aout realy nice.
The pics show the nice and shiny parts.


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Posted by: michelko Jun 11 2006, 11:26 AM

Hic koni inserts for the struts.
last day´s i got the rigt rear trailingarm (spare part) from the sandblaster. the one in the car is bend. so i have to change it.
Next week i will mount the bearings and the hubs.
Will keep you informed.


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Posted by: Stieve Jun 11 2006, 12:58 PM

I am Jealous! I do have German and Russian keyboards though.

Posted by: Stieve Jun 11 2006, 01:00 PM

Are those 911 struts or 914's?

Posted by: michelko Jun 12 2006, 12:48 AM

QUOTE(Stieve @ Jun 11 2006, 11:00 AM) *

Are those 911 struts or 914's?

Of course 911 parts. There is no way to mount the oem 5 lug hubs to an four banger strut. But there are some aftermarket solutions i saw on the board.

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Posted by: Stieve Jun 12 2006, 12:50 AM

Ich liebe es, den ich wünsche, dass ich sie gehabt habe. Sehr Nett.

Posted by: Stieve Jun 12 2006, 12:52 AM

Vielen Dank!

Posted by: Thack Jun 13 2006, 05:08 PM

So on the front setup that spacer gives you the right offset for the 911 Fuchs? Are the rotors stock 911 equipment. It just looks so different.

Posted by: Aaron Cox Jun 13 2006, 05:12 PM

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So on the front setup that spacer gives you the right offset for the 911 Fuchs? Are the rotors stock 911 equipment. It just looks so different.


what spacers??? those are early 911 hubs on 911 struts.....

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Posted by: Thack Jun 13 2006, 05:18 PM

So the rotor bolts up behind the hub and the wheel lugs onto the hub directly or is the photo just showing the part. The hub looks like a spacer/adapter because there are other holes inside.

Posted by: michelko Jun 14 2006, 01:05 AM

Hi,
this is all bone stock, no spacers or anything else.
And yes its a 911 setup. I will run 6*15 Fuchs on it.

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Posted by: Stieve Jun 14 2006, 01:07 AM

I want some...need money though

Posted by: michelko Jun 15 2006, 03:29 AM

Hi,
now i am mounting all the parts together.

Here is a trailing arm with bearing and the cover plate.

Unfortunately the batteries of the camera went south, so no more pics for now

Installed also the the 5 lug hub.

Will post pics of it later.

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Posted by: turboman808 Jun 15 2006, 04:51 AM

I had some nice pretty lug nuts like that yesterday. Then I decieded I wanted the ends to be open sawzall-smiley.gif

Posted by: michelko Jul 17 2006, 04:06 AM

Hi there,
the story continues:

id the front axle conversion. No major problems, only the right big nut that hold the balljoint won´t come of. So had to grind it it of again!!




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Posted by: michelko Jul 17 2006, 04:10 AM

Here are the pics withe that nice fuchs rims. I love them!! wub.gif

rear axle to go. I have all needed parts, sothis should be done in no time.
If there are no more nuts ore screws that won´t come off.

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Posted by: michelko Sep 1 2006, 01:33 AM

Hi there
it´s already done burnout.gif

all four corners equiped with that realy nice fuchs rims. Had no major problems on the conversion.

Had the part sandblasted and painted them with por15.
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New bearings, screws, etc.
911 hub
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Dustshields also sandblasted and painted
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Posted by: michelko Sep 1 2006, 01:37 AM

right side ready left side to go
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nother shot of the left side without the breakdisk

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I am realy happy with the look of the car now but that steel wheels wasn´t so bad.

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Posted by: So.Cal.914 Sep 1 2006, 01:45 AM

A very clean install, now you just need to post some pic's of the finished product.

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Posted by: michelko Sep 1 2006, 08:24 AM

Tada...
here is the car with fuchs on all four corners.

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other side..



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Today and tomorow is the "Vorderpfalz Classic" i will post pic´s later. Some Porsche content.

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Posted by: Root_Werks Sep 1 2006, 08:39 AM

smilie_pokal.gif Fantastic work as always! I love your threads and all the work you have done to your 914. Great progress! driving.gif

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