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Posted by: IanJ Jan 3 2006, 09:43 AM

Thought this might be of interest to some of you guys.

http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/showthread.php?t=246005

Posted by: Gustl Jan 3 2006, 11:18 AM

maybe anybody could post the pics

I'm not registered at rennlist, so I can't watch 'em

Gustl

Posted by: grasshopper Jan 3 2006, 11:54 AM

please someone post some pics

Posted by: rjames Jan 3 2006, 02:19 PM

Not as much fun as I was hoping they'd be, but here ya'll go...


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Posted by: MarkRobinson Jan 3 2006, 02:49 PM

That's my post on Rennlist: I just joined this forum to find out more about this car: sitting original 914-6, the air-cleaner was moved over by me for a photo: it was not discovered like that>

I'm up for offers on parts to determine whether I should purchase the car or not. I just bought a new house & do not have permission to part funds for this car, but if I can pre-sell a few items on it, then it's a go.

It does have the original re-cased engine (no markings), webers, original exhaust, rear valence, 14" fuches, etc. If I can get $1000 committed in purchases on the car, I'll get it & supply those parts. Car has not run in 18 years & is does not appear (at first glance) to be worth restoring. Email me if you're curious about any parts in this car. It is an orig. car: 914xxx...VIN.

Mark (Porschesolutions@gmail.com)

Posted by: echocanyons Jan 3 2006, 03:04 PM

What makes you think the car is not worth restoring?

Posted by: Gustl Jan 3 2006, 03:12 PM

QUOTE (rjames @ Jan 3 2006, 09:20 PM)

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... could anybody tell me where to get this sticker (and the other stickers from the engine comparment from a factory /6) NOS or as reproduction

any help would be highly apreceated

Gustl

Posted by: MarkRobinson Jan 3 2006, 03:19 PM

that sticker is in perfect condition on the car: just a horribly washed out photo due to the sun's angle. cool sticker (metal tag) though.

Posted by: tdgray Jan 3 2006, 03:33 PM

QUOTE (echocanyons @ Jan 3 2006, 05:04 PM)

What makes you think the car is not worth restoring?

Ahhh... Yea what he said

An orginal six, definite worth restoring unless it folds in half when you open the doors and even then I would contemplate it.

Posted by: sixnotfour Jan 3 2006, 03:41 PM

The engine serial numbers for a 914-6 are by the breather housing on the drivers side stamped into the block. you will have to remove the aircleaner to see it.

Posted by: MarkRobinson Jan 3 2006, 03:49 PM

Thanks Jeff, would you mind elaborating on this for me? the car has an "access hatch" cut behind the driver's seat, hence the reason for the photos I posted.

Many of the photos above reflect me searhing for the engine number to the right of the fan, just above the oil pressure switch (I think, green wire?)

Mark

Posted by: Jeffs9146 Jan 3 2006, 04:00 PM

You can see the number from the top!



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Posted by: Porsche Rescue Jan 3 2006, 04:31 PM

Can't understand why it would have an inspection hole in the firewall if it is a factory six engine. Timing mark is visible through the top of the bellhousing as shown in the pic above. Given the rusty steel brackets visible in the pics, it looks to me like it once had an AC compressor. Sometimes those require a hole in the firewall for clearance.

Posted by: Eric_Shea Jan 3 2006, 04:36 PM

with Jim,

I'd bet it was for the A/C. I noticed the A/C bracket in the first few pictures.

Posted by: MarkRobinson Jan 3 2006, 04:45 PM

The condensor box is still located in the nose, so yup, I'd concur.

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 3 2006, 04:51 PM

QUOTE (MarkRobinson @ Jan 3 2006, 12:49 PM)

If I can get $1000 committed in purchases on the car, I'll get it & supply those parts. Car has not run in 18 years & is does not appear (at first glance) to be worth restoring. Email me if you're curious about any parts in this car. It is an orig. car: 914xxx...VIN.

i give you $500 for the whole car as is ...

Andy

Posted by: Porsche Rescue Jan 3 2006, 04:55 PM

Craig at Camp914 has a factory six roller (stripped but rust free I think) which could be mated to the Texas car and someone could have a very nice factory six at minimal cost (and lots of work). Can't find a pic but one was posted here a while back. Maybe Craig will post one.

Posted by: MarkRobinson Jan 3 2006, 05:22 PM

I might just sell the whole car as-is, I'd rather have a clean 914 driver for now, I have my faster cars, & can always increase the value of a 914-4 by adding a powerful 6 later.

Mark

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 3 2006, 05:47 PM

QUOTE (MarkRobinson @ Jan 3 2006, 03:22 PM)

I might just sell the whole car as-is

well, if the price is right, let me know ...

Andy

Posted by: grasshopper Jan 3 2006, 05:52 PM

QUOTE (SirAndy @ Jan 3 2006, 03:47 PM)

QUOTE (MarkRobinson @ Jan 3 2006, 03:22 PM) I might just sell the whole car as-is well, if the price is right, let me know ... Andy

well, i already emailed him, so i have first dibs but if it doesn't work out, i'll get my people to talk to your people

Posted by: SLITS Jan 3 2006, 05:56 PM

QUOTE (Porsche Rescue @ Jan 3 2006, 03:55 PM)

Craig at Camp914 has a factory six roller (stripped but rust free I think) which could be mated to the Texas car and someone could have a very nice factory six at minimal cost (and lots of work). Can't find a pic but one was posted here a while back. Maybe Craig will post one.

Bare shell roller.....$1800

Posted by: SirAndy Jan 3 2006, 05:56 PM

QUOTE (grasshopper @ Jan 3 2006, 03:52 PM)

well, i already emailed him, so i have first dibs but if it doesn't work out, i'll get my people to talk to your people

was your email sent before 02:51 PM ??? if not, you're soooo out of luck ...

i thought you already had a project car ???
Andy

Posted by: SLITS Jan 3 2006, 06:01 PM

Is the VIN # 914115?

Posted by: grasshopper Jan 3 2006, 06:02 PM

QUOTE (SirAndy @ Jan 3 2006, 03:56 PM)

QUOTE (grasshopper @ Jan 3 2006, 03:52 PM) well, i already emailed him, so i have first dibs  :D  but if it doesn't work out, i'll get my people to talk to your people was your email sent before 02:51 PM ??? if not, you're soooo out of luck ... i thought you already had a project car ??? Andy

you suck andy ... so what if i already have a project car.... it not like ill ever finish it

Posted by: MarkRobinson Jan 3 2006, 10:05 PM

The VIN is 914...696 (dont recall the 2-3 numbers missing here, but can at my office in the AM.
Went & looked at the car again this evening, and I must admit, it can probably & easily be restored. the only measurable rust is at the battery box (toast), but rear, rockers, driver's pan appear to have weathered very well. The exhaust is rusted at the rear, and the entire car is mostly disassembled in preparation of a repaint back in '88. I'm told most of these parts are available, but have yet to talk directly to the owner...wish me luck tomorrow. Oh! and the engine number appears to be correct: 6405040.

Mark

Posted by: Aaron Cox Jan 3 2006, 10:23 PM

ill give 1500 as is where is.

Posted by: boxstr Jan 3 2006, 10:25 PM

Real 914-6 tub.


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Posted by: cary Jan 3 2006, 11:26 PM

If it can be restored. IT HAS TO BE RESTORED. PERIOD.

If you guys can't get along. I'll have someone come a pick it up. I need another 914 like I need a hole in my head. But it needs to live.

Posted by: Eddie Williams Jan 3 2006, 11:39 PM

QUOTE (SirAndy @ Jan 3 2006, 05:56 PM)

QUOTE (grasshopper @ Jan 3 2006, 03:52 PM) well, i already emailed him, so i have first dibs  :D  but if it doesn't work out, i'll get my people to talk to your people was your email sent before 02:51 PM ??? if not, you're soooo out of luck ... i thought you already had a project car ??? Andy

I think I beat both of you my email was sent at :

Tue, 3 Jan 2006 13:01:11 -0800 (PST)

Posted by: rick 918-S Jan 4 2006, 01:08 AM

Why do you want to part it? Here we go again...

Posted by: MarkRobinson Jan 4 2006, 08:38 AM

I'm pretty sure I'll be selling the entire car as-is. I went back to the car last night & snapped more pictures, looking for rust, but barely found any! Body lines are straight, & verified that the engine is the original '69 year mfgr'd 914-6 powerplant. Once I find out how much I will have to pay for the car, I will set a reasonable price for this restorable car.

BTW: it was being prepped for paint (18 years ago) before stored, so all the trim & such has already been removed & is in storage at the owner's house I'm told.

Mark. (email me for pictures (faster for me to provide them that way): Mark-jra@sbcglobal.net

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Posted by: Root_Werks Jan 4 2006, 12:37 PM

I have seen worse 474 vins restored. Someone should save this car. Let it sell for a low dollar to a good home where it will be properly restored. (Not my house)

Posted by: SLITS Jan 4 2006, 01:24 PM

Gad....here we go again.....

Posted by: rick 918-S Jan 4 2006, 01:29 PM

QUOTE (cary @ Jan 3 2006, 09:26 PM)

If it can be restored. IT HAS TO BE RESTORED. PERIOD. If you guys can't get along. I'll have someone come a pick it up. I need another 914 like I need a hole in my head. But it needs to live.

Posted by: rick 918-S Jan 4 2006, 01:31 PM

QUOTE (Root_Werks @ Jan 4 2006, 10:37 AM)

I have seen worse 474 vins restored. Someone should save this car. Let it sell for a low dollar to a good home where it will be properly restored. (Not my house)

Posted by: Root_Werks Jan 4 2006, 01:36 PM

QUOTE (rick 918-S @ Jan 4 2006, 11:31 AM)

QUOTE (Root_Werks @ Jan 4 2006, 10:37 AM) I have seen worse 474 vins restored.  Someone should save this car.  Let it sell for a low dollar to a good home where it will be properly restored. (Not my house)  ;)

You mean the "not my house" part?

Posted by: MarkRobinson Jan 4 2006, 02:42 PM

Maybe I should investigate if someone has a nice 914-4 to partially trade me for this 914-6 chassis? After all, If I'm not going to part it, and I cannot restore it personally, and a 914-4 is in my immediate future, maybe someone out there is looking for a partial swap as well. Hmm..
Silver, Black, Yellow, or Red...

I guess I need to see if the car is reasonable to purchase yet before I continue.

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Posted by: SLITS Jan 4 2006, 03:16 PM

QUOTE (MarkRobinson @ Jan 4 2006, 01:42 PM)

Maybe I should investigate if someone has a nice 914-4 to partially trade me for this 914-6 chassis? After all, If I'm not going to part it, and I cannot restore it personally, and a 914-4 is in my immediate future, maybe someone out there is looking for a partial swap as well. Hmm.. Silver, Black, Yellow, or Red... I guess I need to see if the car is reasonable to purchase yet before I continue.

Now, please convince me that I should "partially trade" you a running '74 2.0L with swaybars, center console, yada yada for a siezed engine, siezed set of carbs, unknown tailshifter tranny and extensive restoration cost hunk that you found underneath a tree....uh huh...riiiight......


Ok non-club members.......flame away..................

Posted by: MarkRobinson Jan 4 2006, 04:29 PM

Because you want this car to restore. It can be done, though will take a lot of hard work. I don't have that time, but 5 others within the last 24 hours (some from this forum some from others) feel the same way.

It's worth a few thousand, and a good running 2.0 is typically between 4-8 depending on motivation & condition, so I pay the difference.

It's not that uncommon Ron.

Posted by: MarkRobinson Jan 4 2006, 04:31 PM

Hi Gwen, sorry for the sunlight-washed photo: it's perfect, I'll get another shot of the plate on my way home today, & wipe it first (no the spit-on-the-finger-wipe as I did on Saturday)

Mark

Posted by: rick 918-S Jan 4 2006, 10:16 PM

So What are you paying for this car? What do you think it's worth?

Posted by: Joe Sharp Jan 4 2006, 11:04 PM

From 3 to 5,000 if longs are good.
:PERMAGRIN: Joe

Posted by: LvSteveH Jan 4 2006, 11:12 PM

It will take a braver man than I to tackle that one. You have to have a lot of love for a VIN number to undertake that project.

Posted by: Joe Sharp Jan 4 2006, 11:23 PM

High Steve!


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Posted by: LvSteveH Jan 5 2006, 12:16 AM

Big balls sir...... big balls

Posted by: lotus_65 Jan 5 2006, 11:05 AM

someone pls restore it. thanks.

Posted by: SLITS Jan 5 2006, 01:25 PM

QUOTE (Joe Sharp @ Jan 4 2006, 10:23 PM)

High Steve!

some people have to much time on their hands..............

Posted by: freezing14 Jan 5 2006, 01:36 PM

I want it ,, i have the cohones big enough to restore it, I want to give it a new life, offer made,,

Posted by: MarkRobinson Jan 5 2006, 02:36 PM

I've yet to contact the actual owner: been talking to his family about it since he's been out of town, but I do expect a call very soon. He's been turning down offers on it over the years to restore it, but the last few years is open to selling the project. I'm unsure what I'll get it for at this point as I"m told there's a good deal of parts that may still come with the car.

Sorry to drag this out..

Posted by: Aaron Cox Jan 5 2006, 03:22 PM

you tease....

Posted by: olav Jan 12 2006, 04:00 PM

So I wonder what happened to this rust bucket?

Posted by: cha914 Jan 12 2006, 04:31 PM

Hey Mark,

And another 914 comes out of the woodwork in Austin, amazing how many I keep finding out about, anyway, I am not interested in another project, but if you need any help with that thing or any other car stuff feel free to give me a shout.

Yours,

Tony
cha914 _at_ gmail _dot_ com
512-567-2291

Posted by: Eddie Williams Jan 17 2006, 09:29 PM

Whats the latest?