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Posted by: URY914 Jan 3 2006, 08:29 PM

I bought a new mini-starter. laugh.gif

I can hear you now, "Not another mini-starter thread,mad.gif"

But this tread is different. I always hear you guys saying that you can't find the top bolt that holds the starter to the flywheel housing. Well I sure didn't have that problem. Here is a picture showing the top bolt.





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Posted by: URY914 Jan 3 2006, 08:30 PM

I changed this thing out in five minutes. It would have been faster but my daughter helped me.





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Posted by: URY914 Jan 3 2006, 08:31 PM

Of course I have to post the side by side shot. rolleyes.gif




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Posted by: r_towle Jan 3 2006, 08:32 PM

i figured you just took the traditional post holiday crap...

that is good for at least six pounds...

Why dont you get a starter that you plug in from outside the car...why carry all that weight...you only use it to start the car....like the formula 1 guys...

Rich

Posted by: TROJANMAN Jan 3 2006, 08:40 PM

paul,
don't you have anything better to do than make your car lighter? lol2.gif

Posted by: URY914 Jan 3 2006, 08:41 PM

QUOTE (r_towle @ Jan 3 2006, 06:32 PM)
Why dont you get a starter that you plug in from outside the car...why carry all that weight...you only use it to start the car....like the formula 1 guys...

Rich

I would but I don't have a "crew". My ten year old daughter won't come close to it when it is running much less hold a starter while I'm cranking it. laugh.gif

Maybe when she gets older...

Paul biggrin.gif

Posted by: URY914 Jan 3 2006, 08:43 PM

QUOTE (TROJANMAN @ Jan 3 2006, 06:40 PM)
paul,
don't you have anything better to do than make your car lighter? lol2.gif

My wife will tell you I have a lot of other things to do. sad.gif

But not many are this fun.

Paul

Posted by: Headrage Jan 3 2006, 08:46 PM

Paul,

I would be happier than shit if you could just tell us your car is running. wink.gif

Not to sure about how light it is... confused24.gif

Posted by: URY914 Jan 3 2006, 08:49 PM

QUOTE (Headrage @ Jan 3 2006, 06:46 PM)
Paul,

I would be happier than shit if you could just tell us your car is running. wink.gif

Not to sure about how light it is... confused24.gif

You should be happy as shit to know that it IS running.

And running STRONG, btw.

I've driven two AX with the new engine in it.

Posted by: MW 914 Jan 3 2006, 09:06 PM

Alright Paul...I went to your blog to check out what you have been up to when I stumbled across the picture of your car from 1982. That was a clean looking car! Now I'm sure you have a gas racing that thing and I am sure that it is a hoot to drive. But why did you have to cut up such a clean car? screwy.gif

Please tell me it was a rust bucket underneath all that shiny paint!! poke.gif biggrin.gif

Posted by: URY914 Jan 3 2006, 09:23 PM

QUOTE (MW 914 @ Jan 3 2006, 07:06 PM)
Please tell me it was a rust bucket underneath all that shiny paint!! poke.gif biggrin.gif

1982 was a L-O-N-G time ago and yes it was very clean. But in about 1989 I went to go jack it up one day on the left rear donut and the jack went up but the car stayed on the ground. I had a badly rusted battery and left long. I also had rust under the seats. The car had never been parked in a garage for 10 years and the Florida rains got to it.

I keep screwing with it and slowly turned into a ax/track car, now an AX only car.

What a long strange trip it has been...

P

Posted by: smg914 Jan 3 2006, 11:28 PM

QUOTE (URY914 @ Jan 3 2006, 06:43 PM)
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My wife will tell you I have a lot of other things to do. sad.gif

But not many are this fun.

Paul

I know what you mean Paul; I've been painting my house for the last 3 years. I can't believe my wife has let me get away with taking so long. For some reason playing my guitars, playing tennis and fooling around with my Porsches (and driving Ford GT's) always takes precedence.

Posted by: brant Jan 3 2006, 11:38 PM

Nice!!!!

its Ironic, but I was planning out my winter mods and decided that I could get 6-7 more lbs from the car if I made aluminum rockers, and drilled the front hood!
(about 20hours labour, and another paint job bill)

brant

Posted by: TROJANMAN Jan 4 2006, 12:08 AM

or YOU could go on a diet....... beer.gif

Posted by: brant Jan 4 2006, 12:22 AM

QUOTE (TROJANMAN @ Jan 3 2006, 11:08 PM)
or YOU could go on a diet....... beer.gif

I need to go on a diet! (more than you know!)

but then I couldn't sit around here bsing and drinkign whisky and cokes, now could I!

Posted by: jonwatts Jan 4 2006, 02:17 AM

Is that one of the ebay mini starters?


Posted by: URY914 Jan 4 2006, 07:20 AM

QUOTE (jonwatts @ Jan 4 2006, 12:17 AM)
Is that one of the ebay mini starters?

Jon,

Yes its a ebay starter. I ordered it on 12/23 and it got here yesterday.

Paul

Posted by: Vacca Rabite Jan 4 2006, 08:21 AM

QUOTE (URY914 @ Jan 4 2006, 08:20 AM)
QUOTE (jonwatts @ Jan 4 2006, 12:17 AM)
Is that one of the ebay mini starters?

Jon,

Yes its a ebay starter. I ordered it on 12/23 and it got here yesterday.

Paul

Wow, I ordered mine on 12/20 and it got to me the 27th. I guess the various postal services are still playing catch up to some degree.

Mine will also be an easy install. The motor is out of the car. smile.gif

Zach

Posted by: balljoint Jan 4 2006, 09:10 AM

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You're driving a cut-away diagram. That's awesome.

Posted by: Root_Werks Jan 4 2006, 10:50 AM

Before each X-cross, make sure to take a HUGE dump stromberg.gif , gotta also be good for a couple of lbs. biggrin.gif

Posted by: URY914 Jan 4 2006, 11:09 AM

QUOTE (Root_Werks @ Jan 4 2006, 08:50 AM)
Before each X-cross, make sure to take a HUGE dump stromberg.gif , gotta also be good for a couple of lbs. biggrin.gif

I also wear short sleeve shirts, short pants, no socks and no underwear.


And take my watch off. biggrin.gif

Paul

Posted by: john rogers Jan 4 2006, 11:14 AM

What kind of battery are you using? When I had my old Harley, it had a magneto and no battery, but to provide some power for lights and stuff there was a large capacitor at the output terminal of the generator. I would guess that would work here too, with a jump cable connection to hook the battery up and start and the capacitor to hold voltage up for the ignition??!!

Posted by: Root_Werks Jan 4 2006, 11:28 AM

QUOTE (URY914 @ Jan 4 2006, 09:09 AM)
and no underwear.

Paul

THAT, I could have gone without knowing. icon8.gif av-943.gif

Posted by: Cap'n Krusty Jan 4 2006, 11:32 AM

There goes the originality ................... The Cap'n

Posted by: URY914 Jan 4 2006, 11:50 AM

QUOTE (john rogers @ Jan 4 2006, 09:14 AM)
What kind of battery are you using? When I had my old Harley, it had a magneto and no battery, but to provide some power for lights and stuff there was a large capacitor at the output terminal of the generator. I would guess that would work here too, with a jump cable connection to hook the battery up and start and the capacitor to hold voltage up for the ignition??!!

I'm using a little lawn mower battery. Bigger than a m/c battery.

Posted by: URY914 Jan 4 2006, 11:54 AM

I thought about going to remote battery terminals and using a booster battery to start it, but if I spin and stall it out I would be able to restart it.


Posted by: MattR Jan 4 2006, 05:49 PM

If you want to shed a few more pounds, hook up a large cordless drill on a shaft thats removed after the engine starts like an F1 car. You could get a cart and everything... that would be badass.

Posted by: carr914 Jan 4 2006, 06:30 PM

Paul I don't blame your daughter from not getting near it while it's running. I still remember the 6 ft flame coming outa that thing. It's a good thing she wasn't there.

T.C.

Posted by: Randal Jan 4 2006, 08:45 PM

Paul,

Which starter on e-bay did you use?

Thanks,

Randal


Posted by: URY914 Jan 4 2006, 09:16 PM

AutoTech Engineering Co.
The box doesn't say were it is actually made, but I would say it is a import model.

Posted by: dmenche914 Jan 4 2006, 09:26 PM

Mine losses six lbs or more every time I scrape more rust off of it! Top that.

Posted by: URY914 Jan 4 2006, 09:30 PM

QUOTE (dmenche914 @ Jan 4 2006, 07:26 PM)
Mine losses six lbs or more every time I scrape more rust off of it! Top that.

Wait a minute, I thought all Caly cars were rust free.

Wat's up wit tat confused24.gif

Posted by: airsix Jan 5 2006, 12:03 AM

QUOTE (URY914 @ Jan 4 2006, 09:54 AM)
I thought about going to remote battery terminals and using a booster battery to start it, but if I spin and stall it out I would be able to restart it.

I think you should use a Coffman* (cartridge) starter like on a Napier Sabre (a WWII 2,400hp radial). The Napier used a cartridge that was about twice the size of a 12ga. shotgun shell and it developed a momentary 25hp, which was enough to spin that ~2,200 cubic inch 24cyl radial. You ought to be able to spin a TypeIV-sized Coffman starter with a .22 blank. laugh.gif


-Ben M.

*A Coffman starter uses a blank cartridge similar to a shotgun shell (but not the same - Coffman shells were much larger). When discharged, the shell's expanding gas spins a small turbine connected to a planetary-gear starter.

Posted by: Aaron Cox Jan 5 2006, 12:04 AM

QUOTE (airsix @ Jan 4 2006, 11:03 PM)
QUOTE (URY914 @ Jan 4 2006, 09:54 AM)
I thought about going to remote battery terminals and using a booster battery to start it, but if I spin and stall it out I would be able to restart it.

I think you should use a Coffman* (cartridge) starter like on a Napier Sabre (a WWII 2,400hp radial). The Napier used a cartridge that was about twice the size of a 12ga. shotgun shell and it developed a momentary 25hp, which was enough to spin that ~2,200 cubic inch 24cyl radial. You ought to be able to spin a TypeIV-sized Coffman starter with a .22 blank. laugh.gif


-Ben M.

*A Coffman starter uses a blank cartridge similar to a shotgun shell (but not the same - Coffman shells were much larger). When discharged, the shell's expanding gas spins a small turbine connected to a planetary-gear starter.

as seen on the horrendously bad kevin costner moviw "flight of the phoenix"

Posted by: MattR Jan 5 2006, 12:10 AM

QUOTE (Aaron Cox @ Jan 4 2006, 10:04 PM)
QUOTE (airsix @ Jan 4 2006, 11:03 PM)
QUOTE (URY914 @ Jan 4 2006, 09:54 AM)
I thought about going to remote battery terminals and using a booster battery to start it, but if I spin and stall it out I would be able to restart it.

I think you should use a Coffman* (cartridge) starter like on a Napier Sabre (a WWII 2,400hp radial). The Napier used a cartridge that was about twice the size of a 12ga. shotgun shell and it developed a momentary 25hp, which was enough to spin that ~2,200 cubic inch 24cyl radial. You ought to be able to spin a TypeIV-sized Coffman starter with a .22 blank. laugh.gif


-Ben M.

*A Coffman starter uses a blank cartridge similar to a shotgun shell (but not the same - Coffman shells were much larger). When discharged, the shell's expanding gas spins a small turbine connected to a planetary-gear starter.

as seen on the horrendously bad kevin costner moviw "flight of the phoenix"

dennis quaid, not kevin costner

newb

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Posted by: Aaron Cox Jan 5 2006, 12:11 AM

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Posted by: dmenche914 Jan 5 2006, 12:33 AM

Yeah but the old Black and White original movie was great.

Posted by: sixnotfour Jan 5 2006, 12:35 AM

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The remake sucked wacko.gif

Posted by: airsix Jan 5 2006, 01:51 AM

QUOTE (MattR @ Jan 4 2006, 10:10 PM)
dennis quaid, not kevin costner

newb

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Lame remake.

Jimmy Stewart did the original, and it was a good movie.
Point of trivia: In the original movie the "plane" they made from the wreckage was real (actually made from parts off the wrecked C-82 "Boxcar") and it really flew, but crashed durring filming killing the stunt pilot.

-Ben M.

Posted by: URY914 Jan 5 2006, 09:39 AM

This has to have gotten off topic more than any other thread.... laugh.gif

Paul

Posted by: airsix Jan 5 2006, 12:50 PM

QUOTE (URY914 @ Jan 5 2006, 07:39 AM)
This has to have gotten off topic more than any other thread.... laugh.gif

Paul

No way. I think the URY914 needs a Coffman starter! I was on topic! The rest of the 'drift' was just background info. laugh.gif

Imiage: spin and stall durring autocross... momentary silence and dust cloud drifts off... BANG! (puff of smoke), chur-chur-chur...VROOMM! (wheelspin+oversteer to line up with course)

-Ben M. wacko.gif

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